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chuckdee4 (m)
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you think so??
Last time I checked:
1. it was blacks that died like chicken in New Orleans flood?
2. it is blacks(aborignes) that are scums in Australia
3. it was blacks that got roasted on lagos-ibadan road
4. it was black that died in Haiti/Jamiaca flood
5. it is blacks dying with AIDS in Africa
6. It is black children suffering/dying in Sudan
7. It is black still dregs in South Africa
8. It is blacks dying-off try to swimm to Europe
Untill BLACK start loving themselves like the white love their race; I am afraid Botha will still be very right.
Thank u jare, all u people who want to sweep this thing under the carpet like it never happened should realise that its just not a thing of the past, its something that still happens today, like someone said, it reminds him of IBB, Abacha n Obasanjo. Until we learn to love each other n forget this whole tribal nonsense we won't move forward, yoruba, hausa, igbo we're simply Nigerians People like Botha still roam the earth thats why we should be united as a people |
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mazaje (m)
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Last time I checked:
1. it was blacks that died like chicken in New Orleans flood?
2. it is blacks(aborignes) that are scums in Australia
3. it was blacks that got roasted on lagos-ibadan road
4. it was black that died in Haiti/Jamiaca flood
5. it is blacks dying with AIDS in Africa
6. It is black children suffering/dying in Sudan
7. It is black still dregs in South Africa
8. It is blacks dying-off try to swimm to Europe
Untill BLACK start loving themselves like the white love their race; I am afraid Botha will still be very right. You don talk am finish |
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funloving (m)
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Most people have already said that PW Botha spoke the truth concerning the Black race. They are right.
Most of the things he accused us of are true, even up to this day.
We can't sweep this issue under the carpet as is typical of Nigeria and as a contributor has suggested.
We got to get our acts right as Blacks
Lets forget about trying to defend ourselves sentimentally. The only way to shake of the toga of inferiority hanging over us is to start to prove that we are truly humans and that means, acting as humans.
The gross corruption, incompetent leadership, failed nations, murderous thuggery, abysmally low intellectual expressivism, and all other dregs of humanity for which the black race is infamous must begin to end and be replaced with vibrant nation building, transparency and integrity, intellectual creativity, self respect and love for others, true mental and social emancipation and competent leadership.
Until these are done, forget it. They will always discriminate against us, whether they say it out or not.
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(fake)david
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its true - you're stupid because you're black - foolish because you're black - demented because you're black - sick because you're black - can never make it in life because you're black - those these sound better?
Stay there and blame all your misfortune and in adequacies on the colour of your skin.
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holythug (m)
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Akon ,,indiana arie said it
[s]am not my hair, am not my skin[/s]
what bcame of botha
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naijaway (m)
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Words that need to be part of our national security trainning is what some people are calling past tense. Even though I agree with most of his words unfortunately almost all, is sad to know that we haven't improved and we are still the same entities he talked about. Blacks still lack in any development be it innovations, discoveries, good governance, law and order, unity, respect for lives, etc. Naija that has one of the most populated blacks in one place is also part of this failure and doesn't even have a success plan yet.
Wherever we are is the same ol sh##. Until we start thinking in terms of genuine unity and respect for one another we will be the same people. Some one pointed out things like house boy/girl, gatemen, watever, all that is not white inflicted it is the same people doing that to their own people. As for me I also consider all those traditional rulers as being part of d problems since way back.
Right now it might even be a new era with the new africom stuff whereby they put a black man to head. Knowing that it might remove consciousness but inflict even more damage. Too bad O.
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Tornadoz (m)
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How timely of Afam for this topic. The walking vomit known as I-man recently tried to validate Dr Watsons theory that black people are less intelligent than white people. I was not surprised though, since this has remained one of his distinguishing characteristics.
Only God will help remove this syndrome of black people hating their own. Reading some post here at Nairaland you would think a member of the KKK is at work.
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I-man (m)
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@Tornadoz a.k.a Frank Weltner This your obsession verges on voyeurism  |
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debosky (m)
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What does this topic have to do with Israel?
1. what exactly was the nuclear co-operation between Israel and the Apartheid RSA? Was it in power generation from Uranium? If it was, the blacks today are enjoying that power generation as much as anyone else in S/A.
Even if it was for nuclear weapons, these weapons were never used, and were never intended to be used on blacks as can be gleaned from the 'speech' above - leading to the question how exactly did Israel cause/contribute the blacks suffering in SA?
2. The 'speech' by Botha lists a number of countries as wellCanada, Australia, Germany and co, would it be safe to say these countries are 'evil' as well for trading with SA?
Is it entirely possible that economic dealings in trade and other issues are completely unconnected with political practices of your trading partner?
Is Israel (a small state) in a position to dictate to a much larger trading partner what local/internal policies to pursue?
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Tornadoz (m)
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Even if it was for nuclear weapons, these weapons were never used, and were never intended to be used on blacks Are you sure Israel got that assurances from SA or are you just making it up as you go along? Who was the weapons meant for? |
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debosky (m)
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I am not making anything up as I go alongthe speech itself says nuclear weapons cannot be used to 'defeat' the blacks. Did you read the article at all? PS: It has not been proven here that the Israeli assistance (if indeed it occurred) was towards weaponry and no civilian power generation. Who were the weapons meant for? Anyone with even a little understanding of Nuclear weapons knows that they cannot be used in close proximity, you need to be far off before you can apply such weapons, if not you will be as much a victim of the weapons as the person you are attacking. Conventional weapons were/are more than enough to deal with the Black population if that was the aim, nuclear weapons have no added benefit in that. I guess you need to ask the developers what the goal of the weapons were  |
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davidylan (m)
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Are you sure Israel got that assurances from SA or are you just making it up as you go along? Who was the weapons meant for?
This is very daft and is symptomatic of people who speak before they apply their grey matter. 1. What proof does Afam or Tornadoz provide that indeed Isreal helped SA develop nuclear weapons? 2. Does Tornadoz wish to tell the house that SA developed atomic weapons to wipe out the black population of SA? Does this fellow understand what nuclear weapons are really all about? Or does it assume they are as regular as AK 47 guns? Haba, some people need to go back and read ababio all over again. |
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babasin (m)
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what is interesting: How come South Africa is worst hit by AIDS and especially the blacks? The group, the Worldwatch Institute of Washington DC, says South Africa's HIV epidemic is one of the world's fastest-growing, and is "engulfing" the country.
It says antenatal clinic surveys conducted in April show 22% of the population are infected, compared with an estimate in late 1997 of 14%.
This, the Institute says, means that "barring a medical miracle, one out of every five adults will die within the next decade". this scenario fits perfectly with Botha's speech of 1985. |
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Afam (m)
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This is very daft and is symptomatic of people who speak before they apply their grey matter.
1. What proof does Afam or Tornadoz provide that indeed Isreal helped SA develop nuclear weapons?
That is why I keep maintaining that there is a limit to what your brain can process. Do I need to show you proof when all reasonable people are aware of this fact? Stop displaying your ignorance on a public forum. |
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(fake)david
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what is interesting: How come South Africa is worst hit by AIDS and especially the blacks?
this scenario fits perfectly with Botha's speech of 1985.
Get your facts right - Nigeria has the second largest AIDS population in the whole world after India - common - get your facts right before opening that smelie - rotten, d ick in the tip mouth. |
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mazaje (m)
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Get your facts right - Nigeria has the second largest AIDS population in the whole world after India - common - get your facts right before opening that smelie - rotten, d ick in the tip mouth Misinformation is perilous, Nigeria has the second highest AIDS population by numbers not percentage wise and that's whats more important because Nigeria is a highly populated country while South Africa is not as higly populated as Nigeria, South Africa is one of the country that has the highest rate of HIV/AIDS in the world percentage wise, whats the percentage of people living with HIV/AIDS in Nigeria? compare that to the precentage of people living with HIV/AIDS in South Africa and you will understand the difference. |
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(fake)david
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@Mazamaza
So - you're saying he is right?
How can he be right?
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davidylan (m)
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That is why I keep maintaining that there is a limit to what your brain can process.
Do I need to show you proof when all reasonable people are aware of this fact? Stop displaying your ignorance on a public forum.
As usual, yet another hare-brained response. "All reasonable people being aware" does not constitute proof! Who are the "reasonable people aware of what"? |
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Afam (m)
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As usual, yet another hare-brained response. "All reasonable people being aware" does not constitute proof! Who are the "reasonable people aware of what"?
All reasonable people. Of course not taking into consideration people that reason like you. |
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davidylan (m)
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All reasonable people. Of course not taking into consideration people that reason like you.
There is nothing like "all reasonable people" . . . you either give proof of the nonsense you belabour this board with or shut up and continue stewing in your ignorance. You know precious little but you talk a lot. . . it is the characteristic of empty heads. Besides: 1. South Africa remains the only nation in the world to have voluntarily dismantled its nuclear weapons program as far back as 1990 . . . thus making your accusations more than 17 years irrelevant. 2. Russia is involved in helping Iran with its nuclear weapons program . . . no word from hypocrites like you. France was involved in developing nuclear weapons for Saddam Hussein . . . of course hypocrites like you are silent. |
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babasin (m)
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South Africa remains the only nation in the world to have voluntarily dismantled its nuclear weapons program as far back as 1990 . they only dismantled when they knew BLACKS are coming to power and would use it to WIPE them out! so spare us your hulala |
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(fake)david
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the goats are back.
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davidylan (m)
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they only dismantled when they knew BLACKS are coming to power and would use it to WIPE them out!
so spare us your hulala
this makes very little sense. An ordinary primary school kid with a rudimentary knowledge of nuclear physics knows that the only way to achieve this would be to take all the whites to a desert far away and then detonate the bomb. Not even Iran is foolish enough to use a nuclear weapon within its borders. Maybe we need to lecture some people on what a nuclear device really is. |
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I-man (m)
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they only dismantled when they knew BLACKS are coming to power and would use it to WIPE them out!
so spare us your hulala
How feasible is this "insightful" analysis.Whites lived effectively amongst Blacks.How could the nukes destroy Whites without destroying Blacks.The Blacks would have had to drop nukes on their own country in order to "destroy" Whites. |
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Mariory (m)
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Peharps we will get another thread from Afam which will show why Israel is the reason for Adam eating the forbidden fruit. |
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mrpataki (m)
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Or better still, how Isreal is responsible for the state of emergency in Pakistan.
Ignoramus.
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Afam (m)
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@davidylan, I-man, mariory & the complete moron mrpataki,
You worry yourself way too much about what Afam thinks, why is that?
Believe me all the nonsense you guys (not forgetting mariory that is a woman) put down here don't mean anything as I see them as comments made by plain idiots and pigs.
I discuss what I choose to discuss not what morons like you want me to discuss, get this into your egg heads.
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otele (m)
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e no go easy o |
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mrpataki (m)
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You worry yourself way too much about what Afam thinks, why is that?
Who cares what you think? Has the words of a fool ever made sense. It is only irritating and nauseating when credulous idiots like you, come on the forum spewing out, what you don't even have a minute knowledge on; and you think you will be celebrated with such. You have never brought out any sound productive thinking attributed to your reasoning. They are always from a private forum or from your inbox. So why bother with your thinking? When you don't even think. Grow up and avail yourself of some intelligent books to read. |
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davidylan (m)
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@davidylan, I-man, mariory & the complete moron mrpataki,
You worry yourself way too much about what Afam thinks, why is that?
Your over-inflated ego will be your downfall someday. Trust me, if Afam didnt waste our time and space butting into threads and exposing his intellectual paucity . . . no one would notice his absence. |
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