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RichyBlacK (m)
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1. South Africa remains the only nation in the world to have voluntarily dismantled its nuclear weapons program as far back as 1990 . . . thus making your accusations more than 17 years irrelevant.
Correction: Brazil did the same in 1980. |
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RichyBlacK (m)
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There is nothing like "all reasonable people" . . . you either give proof of the nonsense you belabour this board with or shut up and continue stewing in your ignorance. You know precious little but you talk a lot. . . it is the characteristic of empty heads.
Besides:
1. South Africa remains the only nation in the world to have voluntarily dismantled its nuclear weapons program as far back as 1990 . . . thus making your accusations more than 17 years irrelevant.
2. Russia is involved in helping Iran with its nuclear weapons program . . . no word from hypocrites like you.
France was involved in developing nuclear weapons for Saddam Hussein . . . of course hypocrites like you are silent.
You want proof abi? When you're asked to give proof, do you give any? |
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davidylan (m)
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I give plenty of proof . . . as is usual with hypocrites seeking to twist facts to fit their theories, you either pretend not to see the proof, run away altogether or turn it into another avenue to heap invectives on those who expose your farcical posts.
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Kobojunkie
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babasin (m)
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Re: Botha's Speech -1985 - Racism At Its Worst
« #31 on: November 08, 2007, 05:19 PM »
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yes the word move past botha long time
you think so??
Last time I checked:
1. it was blacks that died like chicken in New Orleans flood?
2. it is blacks(aborignes) that are scums in Australia
3. it was blacks that got roasted on lagos-ibadan road
4. it was black that died in Haiti/Jamiaca flood
5. it is blacks dying with AIDS in Africa
6. It is black children suffering/dying in Sudan
7. It is black still dregs in South Africa
8. It is blacks dying-off try to swimm to Europe
Untill BLACK start loving themselves like the white love their race; I am afraid Botha will still be very right.
Na wa oo, I actually agree with you for once here, now I am scared!!!!  Racists need some source for their strength and power, we have so far continued to provide them with that in abundance, so I do not see why we should continue to blame them when they take advantage of what we continue to give them freely, 
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Tornadoz (m)
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Can some one please tell the tag team of davidylan/I-man that simulating being white on a black forum is down right comical? Every one seems to allow this nauseating duo to wallow in a sick parody of being uber white. Is this a joke.
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doyin13 (m)
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Can some one please tell the tag team of davidylan/I-man that simulating being white on a black forum is down right comical? Every one seems to allow this nauseating duo to wallow in a sick parody of being uber white. Is this a joke.
Twenty Gbosas for you. I-man you now have competition in the Bombast stakes.  Eagerly awaiting your reply.  |
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texazzpete (m)
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Can some one please tell the tag team of davidylan/I-man that simulating being white on a black forum is down right comical? Every one seems to allow this nauseating duo to wallow in a sick parody of being uber white. Is this a joke.
Since when did telling the truth become 'simulating being white'? being black is not about blindly defending your race whenever anything happens. You should be happy that some people can don a thinking cap and objectively discuss issues without bringing racial prejudice into the mix. By the way, what exactly have you brought into this discussion, apart from spirited efforts to dissipate the energies of people who reason logically? Why do you always have to attack without saying anything meaningful? Go back to your insidious 'Jewmocracy' thread and leave men alone. Your constant assault on logic is pathetic. *cough* retard *cough* |
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texazzpete (m)
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Gentlemen, an interesting twist of the tale is upon us. it appears now that this speech is a hoax Here's what Sunday Times had to say about this http://www.thetimes.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=308808It’s an urban legend
An email is doing the rounds purporting to have originated in the Sunday Times back in 1985 that quotes PW Botha - We can assure you that it’s a long-running urban legend and NOT a speech made by PW
Dear Readers:
Several people have written in to us to ask for clarity about an email that is being forwarded in cyberspace to do with an apparent speech made by PW Botha in 1985.
It purports to be quoting from an article written for the Sunday Times by a Mr. David G. Mailu on August 18, 1985.
We can assure you that it’s a long-running urban legend and NOT a speech made by PW.
It’s got such choice comments (aka tripe) in it, we hope you at least suspected as much all along.
We know truth is stranger than fiction, but not this time.
Sunday Times Onlinehttp://www.thetimes.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=308808It appears once again that Afam has posted yet another hoax from his fabled inbox, remaining consistent as a disseminator of falsehood in a bid to score cheap popularity. I knew something was fishy when i started reading of 'Sex mercenary squads'. It took only 30 secs of googling to find out about the hoax, something Afam should have done before posting the initial article. But hey, anything to rope in Israel (no matter how tenuous the link), eh? Afam, nice try but this is on par with your previous efforts. Pure hogwash!! |
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davidylan (m)
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@ texazzpete, thanks for taking out the time to once again expose the fraudulent tripe that hypocrites and conspiracy theorists like Afam like to bandy about. For a person who keeps harping on about "issues please", lets see how he wriggles out of this one. |
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I-man (m)
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@texazzpete I had strong suspicions the speech was fake as it was written in a somewhat mordant manner.It seemed something a Black person had written to prompt deeper reflection amongst Blacks in South Africa.I googled to find any reference to the speech and I couldn't find any,I just didn't have the evidence to debunk the speech.Thanks a lot for your article. I found it funny that Botha would make such remarks in 1985 and yet,Mbeki offered his family a state funeral and flags were flown at half mast upon his death.He was racist,as you would expect a member of an apartheid Govt to be,but he couldn't have expressed such virulently racist views as late as 1985. The deeper issue this reveals is the tendency of people like Afam to accept at face value things they read without a discerning mind.Not only was this speech a fake,he managed the incredible task of linking the fake speech to Israel. Twenty Gbosas for you. I-man you now have competition in the Bombast stakes. Eagerly awaiting your reply. The Bini Jew-hating bovine has been fastidiously consulting the Thesaurus just to pursue his perverse vendetta against me.I seemed to have damaged his self-esteem as his interest in me has reached stalking proportions.I have nothing do with his colossal imbecility.He should blame Allah or Bini liquor! |
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davidylan (m)
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The deeper issue this reveals is the tendency of people like Afam to accept at face value things they read without a discerning mind.Not only was this speech a fake,he managed the incredible task of linking the fake speech to Israel.
I very much doubt that Afam bothered to read beyond the first few lines of the alleged speech before rushing to post it here as another anti-Isreal weapon of propaganda. One thing that is immediately apparent is his complete lack of understanding of the depth of that fake speek. For a black man, it is absurd that the only thing he wanted to talk about was Isreal's culpability . . . rational minds would have been more alarmed at the amount of racist vitriol against the black race. |
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doyin13 (m)
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From my Recycle bin: I support Afam jo. . . Wasnt't Israel a supporter of the Apartheid regime. . .  |
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davidylan (m)
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From my Recycle bin: I support Afam jo. . . Wasnt't Israel a supporter of the Apartheid regime. . . that was the real motive behind Afam's posting of this fraudulent piece from his now famous "trash" box. China is involved in helping Sudan tap its oil reserves . . . does that mean China is implicated in the Darfur genocide? France was instrumental in building a nuclear facility for Saddam Hussein . . . does that make France culpable for Saddam's atrocities? Isreal helped SA with its nuclear program . . . does that mean Isreal is to blame for apartheid? |
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texazzpete (m)
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@davidylan, I-man
save your breath. Useful analogies are lost on Afam. His fellow acolytes (Tornadoz, babasin et al) are just as bad.
i too wondered why someone would skip the intense anti-black rhetoric in the fake speech and focus on a shadowy link to Israel. It shows that these trolls have fully subdued their black identities in their frenzy to attack Israel, yet that is the same thing they accuse you guys of!
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grafikdon
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If you like argue from Jarusalem to Jericho, as long we continue to act like caged gorillas drunk on sour palm wine, Botha and his buddies will continue to take us for a ride unchallenged.  I will say it again, the only way to PERMANENTLY SHUT UP THE NAY SAYERS is by 'cleaning up' our homes. Making a fuss about Watson and Botha isn't going to move us an inch. A Nigerian goes to USA, becomes a United States Citizen and enjoys all the benefits. A Nigerian goes to Ireland and becomes a friggin Mayor. . . REWIIIIIIIIIIND!!!!!!! 1. An Igbo man, born and raised in Portharcourt, spends 90% of his time in the place and finally buys a land and builds a house. A knucklehead with cockroach puke for brain tissues comes along and constantly reminds him he is not a 'son of the soil'. 2. A Yoruba man, born and raised in Aba and spends his entire life in the damn place CANNOT in his wildest imagination dream of becoming a LGA Chairman. . . forget about Governor for that one is more difficult than drowning an elephant with a drop of water. NOW, DO YOU NOT SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT PICTURE? Make una continue whine and fuss because as far as I am concerned, oyibo them see una sh*t for side walk, them come out say una sh*t for road come wipe yansh for electric pole. Never mind oyinbo hinself dey too sh*t for sidewalk but that is not my concern, if them like make them sh*t for faya place. Although it is wrong for them to say una sh*t for road instead of sidewalk, the fact remains una no suppose sh*t for sidewalk in the first place. BLACK people, make una begin sh*t for toilet and everyone will SHUT UP. SIMPLE! |
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Afam (m)
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Urban legend indeed!!
@texxazpete,
It is interesting to note that the only time you post anything on this forum is when you want to attack anyone that says anything against the West, you are such a hypocritical pig. You really don't deserve more than 2 sentences.
@I-man/Davidylan & mrpataki the moron,
You guys are irredeemably stupid. You continue to argue back and forth on this thread and when someone says he thinks it is fake you start talking about having the same feeling, una no dey shame? Na born dey born una abi na for dust bin them been pick una? White wannabes.
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davidylan (m)
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@ Afam . . .
Yawn! Same ol same ol. no attempt to look at the veracity of his fraudulent post, no attempt to take responsibility for posting a hoax . . . rather he launches into another predictable tirade.
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texazzpete (m)
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Urban legend indeed!!
@texxazpete,
It is interesting to note that the only time you post anything on this forum is when you want to attack anyone that says anything against the West, you are such a hypocritical pig. You really don't deserve more than 2 sentences.
@I-man/Davidylan & mrpataki the moron,
You guys are irredeemably stupid. You continue to argue back and forth on this thread and when someone says he thinks it is fake you start talking about having the same feeling, una no dey shame? Na born dey born una abi na for dust bin them been pick una? White wannabes.
Afam, No. I only attack people that say something against the truth and simple logic. However it is interesting to note that the only time you post something is to attack Israel or the US. You've gotten so caught up in this pastime that you've even ceased to peddle your inverters in nairaland. Have you no shame? I don't 'think' your article is fake, it's been confirmed fake by the same paper your article claim it was printed in (Sunday times, south africa). I think you're using the 'the best defense is a good attack' philosophy to try and salvage what remains of your already-tarnished integrity. You wouldn't know a hoax even if it jumped up and bit you in the arse. Now i am truly convinced you're a rabble-rouser desperately searching for relevance. @grafikdon I might surprise you that many of us have come to that realization a long time ago. don't let Afam and co fool you, many of us here actually use our brains and reason with logic. You DO realise Botha's dead, don't you? Take the time to read a few posts up and you'll see the entire speech's a hoax. |
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Mariory (m)
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Afam,
Have you no shame? I don't 'think' your article is fake, it's been confirmed fake by the same paper your article claim it was printed in (Sunday times, south africa). I think you're using the 'the best defense is a good attack' philosophy to try and salvage what remains of your already-tarnished integrity.
Rest assured he has none. His next anti-Israeli thread is just a couple of emails away. |
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mrpataki (m)
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@I-man/Davidylan & mrpataki the moron,
You guys are irredeemably stupid. You continue to argue back and forth on this thread and when someone says he thinks it is fake you start talking about having the same feeling, una no dey shame? Na born dey born una abi na for dust bin them been pick una? White wannabes.
You are at it again. Because I openly showed that your brain cells are dead, you have not stopped from including my prestigious name in your idiotic postings. A link has been given to show that your article here is a sham! Yet you resort to the usual display of Oshodi oke mannerisms. I don't blame you, this is what one gets from the Nigerian Government, when idiots like you are allowed to prowl around and sit down at Alaba market all day  , when you should have spent quality time to study while you had the opportunity and time. You have made yourself an embarrasing recourse to public rascality and an epidemic nuisance to intellectual discourse on the nairaland forum. You are the only idiot that I have seen so far and I hope I will only read from on a forum, who thought and still thinks ethanol and bioethanol are not the same thing. Yet you label yourself yourself as a chemical engineer. Keep on with the vociferous barkings like a deranged dog. If it relieves you of your frustration and agony, all the best. Next time before you put up messages from your inbox or from a private forum on nairaland, challenge your brains to at least google out information related to it. |
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Afam (m)
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Afam,
No. I only attack people that say something against the truth and simple logic. However it is interesting to note that the only time you post something is to attack Israel or the US. You've gotten so caught up in this pastime that you've even ceased to peddle your inverters in nairaland. Don't worry about my inverters, this is politics section, as the new administrator wannabe that go about crying that NL is too big for Seun you should have realized this a long time. There are better ways of approaching Seun for a small administrative role on the forum. Have you no shame? I don't 'think' your article is fake, it's been confirmed fake by the same paper your article claim it was printed in (Sunday times, south africa). I think you're using the 'the best defense is a good attack' philosophy to try and salvage what remains of your already-tarnished integrity. You wouldn't know a hoax even if it jumped up and bit you in the arse. Now i am truly convinced you're a rabble-rouser desperately searching for relevance.
It seems you are really hurt, sorry there is very very little I can do to help a pig like you. Rest assured he has none. His next anti-Israeli thread is just a couple of emails away.
A woman that has been bent on deceiving everyone and claiming she is a man to me represents the scum of the earth. When you are ashamed of yourself I guess that tells a lot of story about you. @mrpataki, The only way I can show you the difference between bioethanol and ethanol is to explain it on this forum and this is one thing I will never do as you will be the one that will benefit just as you benefited from my explanation that Kva is not a product and there is nothing like Renewable Technology for energy consumption. A third explanation? Never, this forum is not a substitute for real education and I will prefer to see you live and die without knowing the difference. |
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Kobojunkie
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WOW , UNBEWEABLE!!!!  Ethanol fuel From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia • Have questions? Find out how to ask questions and get answers. •Jump to: navigation, search Renewable energy Biofuels Biomass Geothermal power Hydro power Solar power Tidal power Wave power Wind power Information on pump, California.Environmental technology Air pollution control Air pollution dispersion modeling Alternative energy Biofuel Composting Conservation biology Conservation ethic Ecoforestry Energy conservation Energy development Environmental design Environmental impact assessment Environmental preservation Green building Hydrogen technologies Industrial wastewater treatment Natural building Recycling Renewable energy Renewable energy development Remediation Solid waste treatment Sustainable architecture Sustainable energy Sustainable development Waste water treatment Water purification Waste management Environmental science energy Portal Sustainable development Portal Ethanol fuel is ethanol (ethyl alcohol), the same type of alcohol found in alcoholic beverages. It can be used as a fuel, mainly as a biofuel alternative to gasoline, and is widely used in cars in Brazil. Because it is easy to manufacture and process, and can be made from very common materials, such as sugar cane, it is steadily becoming a promising alternative to gasoline throughout much of the world. Anhydrous ethanol (ethanol with less than 1% water) can be blended with gasoline in varying quantities up to pure ethanol (E100), and most spark-ignited gasoline style engines will operate well with mixtures of 10% ethanol (E10).[1] Most cars on the road today in the US. can run on blends of up to 10% ethanol,[2] and the use of 10% ethanol gasoline is mandated in some cities where harmful levels of auto emissions are possible.[3] Ethanol can be mass-produced by fermentation of sugar or by hydration of ethylene from petroleum and other sources. Current interest in ethanol mainly lies in bio-ethanol, produced from the starch or sugar in a wide variety of crops, but there has been considerable debate about how useful bio-ethanol will be in replacing fossil fuels in vehicles. Concerns relate to the large amount of arable land required for crops,[4] as well as the energy and pollution balance of the whole cycle of ethanol production.[5][6] Recent developments with cellulosic ethanol production and commercialization may allay some of these concerns.[7] According to the International Energy Agency, cellulosic ethanol could allow ethanol fuels to play a much bigger role in the future than previously thought.[8] Cellulosic ethanol can be made from plant matter composed primarily of inedible cellulose fibers that form the stems and branches of most plants. Dedicated energy crops, such as switchgrass, are also promising cellulose sources that can be produced in many regions of the United States.[9] PLEASE READ FOR YOUR OWN EDUCATION http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel |
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davidylan (m)
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@mrpataki,
The only way I can show you the difference between bioethanol and ethanol is to explain it on this forum and this is one thing I will never do as you will be the one that will benefit just as you benefited from my explanation that Kva is not a product and there is nothing like Renewable Technology for energy consumption.
A third explanation? Never, this forum is not a substitute for real education and I will prefer to see you live and die without knowing the difference.
This is just a big shame. Bioethanol is simply ethanol from biological sources like fermented sugars. Synthetic ethanol and bioethanol have the same chemical formular CH 3COOH. Wind energy and solar energy are forms of renewable energy that are already in use in developed countries. Such a shame indeed! |
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Afam (m)
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Sorry for una. Even from wikipedia you have morons that cannot understand the difference between ethanol and bioethanol. This is just a big shame. Bioethanol is simply ethanol from biological sources like fermented sugars. Synthetic ethanol and bioethanol have the same chemical formular CH3COOH.
Wind energy and solar energy are forms of renewable energy that are already in use in developed countries.
Such a shame indeed!
And you think you can twist this one? You may help mrpataki explain to us what Renewable Technology for energy consumption, this is the issue, no one is talking about wind and solar, you moron. So, we have synthetic ethanol and bioethanol and there is no difference between the 2. As a student I am certain that you are a big olodo. |
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mrpataki (m)
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Sorry for una. Even from wikipedia you have morons that cannot understand the difference between ethanol and bioethanol.
And you think you can twist this one? You may help mrpataki explain to us what Renewable Technology for energy consumption, this is the issue, no one is talking about wind and solar, you moron.
So, we have synthetic ethanol and bioethanol and there is no difference between the 2. As a student I am certain that you are a big olodo.
I did not know Seun had even moved this topic here. I guess you are not intelligent enough to know where a stupid topic fits. Back to your rubbish, do you have a wool across your brains? Because you see ''bio'' before the ethanol, you still think they are different So you have finally registered back in school Avail yourself of the free lecture everyone has been giving to you. Your pride and stupidity should not stop you from objective analysis, you are been offered from the finest of brains. |
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Kobojunkie
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OH MY GOSH!!! ALCOHOL, Be it made in the LAB or made from Plants is the same ALCOHOL, Same Chemical Composition, Same Alcohol, UNBELIEVABLE!!! Alcohol have been made for centuries from plants and other sources. Why is it now SUDDENLY different just cause we now call that made from plants bioethanol?? Ever since the dawn of time, alcohol has been produced during fermentation and has always been known as alcohol. Now we call it BioEthanol and BOOM, it is SUDDENLY different? NA WA OOOO!!!! What is Bioethanol? The principle fuel used as a petrol substitute for road transport vehicles is bioethanol. Bioethanol fuel is mainly produced by the sugar fermentation process, although it can also be manufactured by the chemical process of reacting ethylene with steam, http://www.esru.strath.ac.uk/EandE/Web_sites/02-03/biofuels/what_bioethanol.htm |
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