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deedami (m)
Re: Is It Necessary To 'try' And Adapt An American,west Indian Or British Accent ?
« #64 on: November 19, 2007, 03:34 AM »

Quote from: BlackMamba on November 15, 2007, 03:50 PM
To answer your question:
Yes, you must adapt to the language of your environment, including the accent, to improve your communication skills. I'm not talking about street talk which looks stupid if you are forcing it.

I cannot imagine someone adopting West Indian accent or Patios in Europe or US. Huh

Well guess what ! i speak Patois ! and i live in killafornia, I just can't help but blendin ma Naija accent wit Patois, gives me and identity, different from them Bay Area N!ggas, everyone that walks up to  me always make that perfect guess, and the reason why i picked on Patois is its African origin,
it was a languaged coined by slaves who needed an identity, and it still shows the connection to our roots, and besides i love the way English is murdered in Patois so i speak it, and of course, Ma naija accent very obvious, and ma Naija flag on ma backpack. I never tried to be what am not,
to all thosr guys that come out here and try to act all Americanised . . . . Loosers,
Yankee people can tell theirs when they see theirs, sooo i gets ma respect from homies because am reppin where am from faithfully,
ow11 (m)
Re: Is It Necessary To 'try' And Adapt An American,west Indian Or British Accen
« #65 on: November 19, 2007, 01:51 PM »

@davidylan

I agree about feeling superior but it still doesnt answer why Indians don't bother changing their accents to British ones. Someone said it helps at work but how come Nigerians want to use it outisde work on fellow Nigerians.

I believe ur accent tells where ur from and Americans, Brits, Italians and so on have the accents they use to speak english and don't try to change when they move from country to country. But Naija go wan hide where him come from by trying to change his accent but unfortunantely no matter how much accent school u go to. The accent u grew up with will always remain
Dios (m)
Re: Is It Necessary To 'try' And Adapt An American,west Indian Or British Accent ?
« #66 on: November 19, 2007, 02:10 PM »

It's not about trying to fit in, if you live, work and play around people you will end up sounding like them whether you want to or not.
I speak the same way to everybody, I'm around these people 24/7 so how can I just switch the way I talk because I'm around Naija people.
I think the only people complaining about this are people that can't adapt and they think there is something wrong with that so they lash out at those who can. I speak pidgin fluently so I'm good either way.
ow11 (m)
Re: Is It Necessary To 'try' And Adapt An American,west Indian Or British Accen
« #67 on: November 19, 2007, 05:26 PM »

Quote from: Dios on November 19, 2007, 02:10 PM
It's not about trying to fit in, if you live, work and play around people you will end up sounding like them whether you want to or not.


why don't Americans in Nigeria sound like us. Since they work,live and play amongst us. They learn Pidgin and sometimes the odd Igbo or Yoruba words. But that American accent still rings in the pidgin or vernacular they speak. why doesn't the accent change come naturally as you say it does or this theory only works for Nigerians.

Davidylan said the Americans feel superior thats why they don't bother and i agree and add that the Nigerians feel inferior thats why they change.

 An American in London won't switch to a British accent and vice versa, why won't the accent change? Why won't Igbos automatically get Hausa accent when they move up north or when the Hausa people come to the south get Igbo or yoruba accent?

ANSWER: They don't because there is no need and don't feel inferior to the other because of the accents. Hence don't bother themselves to try to sound like the people in their new environment.


davidylan (m)
Re: Is It Necessary To 'try' And Adapt An American,west Indian Or British Accent ?
« #68 on: November 19, 2007, 06:00 PM »

ow11, you are perfectly right. Americans can live in Nigeria for 20yrs and never change their accent. I have stayed in the US only 3yrs and my friends and family tell me my accent has already changed. Why? Is it the pressure to speak like those around me? Is it inferiority complex?

the indians have a much worse problem. once you are born to speak a foreign language it is extremely difficult to change ur accent especially if you are learning english as a second language. Nigerians learn to speak english right from birth . . . indians do not learn until late in their adult life when they intend to move to an english speaking country hence their difficulty in changing the accent.
omoge (f)
Re: Is It Necessary To 'try' And Adapt An American,west Indian Or British Accent ?
« #69 on: November 19, 2007, 06:03 PM »

so davidi, after 3years only you dey talk like oyinbo?  Grin

yup yup get mi warer man mi  Cheesy.

well i don't know why myself, my family said the same thing. my sister was saying Eyaa sister, your voice don change o. i was puzzled. my dad now speaks like me on phone (teasing me)  Grin
spoilt (f)
Re: Is It Necessary To 'try' And Adapt An American,west Indian Or British Accent ?
« #70 on: November 19, 2007, 10:06 PM »

Quote from: ow11 on November 19, 2007, 05:26 PM
why don't Americans in Nigeria sound like us. Since they work,live and play amongst us. They learn Pidgin and sometimes the odd Igbo or Yoruba words. But that American accent still rings in the pidgin or vernacular they speak. why doesn't the accent change come naturally as you say it does or this theory only works for Nigerians.

Davidylan said the Americans feel superior thats why they don't bother and i agree and add that the Nigerians feel inferior thats why they change.

 An American in London won't switch to a British accent and vice versa, why won't the accent change? Why won't Igbos automatically get Hausa accent when they move up north or when the Hausa people come to the south get Igbo or yoruba accent?

ANSWER: They don't because there is no need and don't feel inferior to the other because of the accents. Hence don't bother themselves to try to sound like the people in their new environment.




i sooooo agree with you my brother. You dragged those good points out of my mouth.


@davidylan
E be like say you and britiko don get secret rendevous before abi how you carry sabi say she dey blow fonee abeg?  Grin Grin
predi (m)
Re: Is It Necessary To 'try' And Adapt An American,west Indian Or British Accent ?
« #71 on: November 19, 2007, 11:26 PM »

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Anyway i think this thread also exposes one fact that is so easy to miss . . . reverse inferiority complex. We have people here who consider themselves "priviledged" to be able to speak in an American or British accent by accident of birth or long period of residence in foreign countries. Looking down on those who are trying to change their accents is just one way of expressing that inner feeling.

REAL Americans and Brits don't care what accent you use. So long as they can understand whatever you say is fine by them. i don't see British people laughing at French or Germans who try to copy the British accent on their forums.
Nigerians need to get real, remove the log in their own eyes before attempting to remove the mote in their brother's eye.
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@ BRIGHTGIRLEE

  as much as i like yur topics, please ease off tryn to chew people wu dnt share yur views. abi wetin be d essence of ya post na?

    i was with my mum last yr in Atlanta [my first time eva in yankee] and at the airport my mum was tryn to speak with some americans both white and black and they wer all just like "what! what!" i was kind of pissed but i realised sometin, the moment she changed her accent a bit to suit dia style, she could communicate well and we cld muv around easily. wats d point of restrictin yourself to yur accent in another man's country when it actually retards ur progress in a way? i wonda for una o!

   the biuty of been nigerian is that we adapt easily o suit our purposes-whatever they may be. i never try to be antim iam not, i speak good English and mixed wit a likkle british accent, it sounds beta dan the British accent itself. hav yu herd Ajayi lycet speak-don't yu enjoy her when she speaks?
 

 in asmuch as yu shld be original with yur language also try and be reasonable wit it. English language is our lingua franca and because of that we adapt we re eager to adapt to our environment wereva we find ourselves. i deal wit mostly british and american investors everyday, they love my accent because it sounds beta dan dia's-i dare say.
 
wendymanda
Re: Is It Necessary To 'try' And Adapt An American,west Indian Or British Accen
« #72 on: November 20, 2007, 04:47 AM »

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as much as i like yur topics, please ease off tryn to chew people wu dnt share yur views. abi wetin be d essence of ya post na?

    i was with my mum last yr in Atlanta [my first time eva in yankee] and at the airport my mum was tryn to speak with some americans both white and black and they wer all just like "what! what!" i was kind of pissed but i realised sometin, the moment she changed her accent a bit to suit dia style, she could communicate well and we cld muv around easily. wats d point of restrictin yourself to yur accent in another man's country when it actually retards your progress in a way? i wonda for una o!

   the biuty of been nigerian is that we adapt easily o suit our purposes-whatever they may be. i never try to be antim iam not, i speak good English and mixed wit a likkle british accent, it sounds beta dan the British accent itself. hav yu herd Ajayi lycet speak-don't yu enjoy her when she speaks?
 

 in asmuch as yu shld be original with yur language also try and be reasonable wit it. English language is our lingua franca and because of that we adapt we re eager to adapt to our environment wereva we find ourselves. i deal wit mostly british and american investors everyday, they love my accent because it sounds beta dan dia's-i dare say.

 True true. I guess Nigerians are intelligent afterall. Someone on Nairaland once said that intelligence is the ability to adapt.
Anyways it's sad but true. When people hear I came in Dec. 04 they say omg, you don't have an accent at all, as if I am supposed to take it as a compliment. I guess it's good that I adapt but it's not an amazing feat or atleast I don't think it is.
britgirlee (f)
Re: Is It Necessary To 'try' And Adapt An American,west Indian Or British Accent ?
« #73 on: November 20, 2007, 04:15 PM »

Predi

I hear you your right,  Wink

Just the shock of some individuals who choose to abuse or attack you personally,
But I guess its something I will get used to or just ignore Embarrassed

Any way I'm about to post another topic Wink
souless
Re: Is It Necessary To 'try' And Adapt An American,west Indian Or British Accent ?
« #74 on: December 03, 2007, 01:35 PM »

Sometimes, it is imperative to adapt. If you work in a corporate world in a country whose accent is a long ways from yours then you gotta adapt. That's not to say you should overdo it, just change some key pronunciations/vowel enunciation and you're good to go.

When in Rome, do as the Romans.
spoilt (f)
Re: Is It Necessary To 'try' And Adapt An American,west Indian Or British Accent ?
« #75 on: December 04, 2007, 01:54 AM »

Quote from: souless on December 03, 2007, 01:35 PM
Sometimes, it is imperative to adapt. If you work in a corporate world in a country whose accent is a long ways from yours then you gotta adapt. That's not to say you should overdo it, just change some key pronunciations/vowel enunciation and you're good to go.

When in Rome, do as the Romans.

you guys keep saying when in rome do as the romans. why do these oyibos not adapt our accent when they are in nigeria?  Grin. they never feel the need to. even in nigeria people who have never stepped foot outside the country put on phony accents. i honestly could no longer listen to the radio in nigeria.Them voice jockeys sounding like they are gurgling petrol!  Angry
britgirlee (f)
Re: Is It Necessary To 'try' And Adapt An American,west Indian Or British Accent ?
« #76 on: December 04, 2007, 02:36 AM »

Quote from: spoilt on December 04, 2007, 01:54 AM
you guys keep saying when in rome do as the romans. why do these oyibos not adapt our accent when they are in nigeria?  Grin. they never feel the need to. even in nigeria people who have never stepped foot outside the country put on phony accents. i honestly could not longer listen to the radio in nigeria.Them voice jockeys sounding like they are gurgling petrol!  Angry


oh my gosh spoilt  , heavy,  Shocked but its true what you say with regards to thye english etc even over here diffrent individuals from diffrent counties or  parts of england choose to keep there accents even those that read the news Wink
blueband (m)
Re: Is It Necessary To 'try' And Adapt An American,west Indian Or British Accent ?
« #77 on: December 11, 2007, 04:07 PM »

If you work with white people and you speak in your own accent,they find it hard to understand what you are saying.I think after some years you kind of get used to imitating them when you are at work or in school.
The problem comes when you move back to your own community and try to continue talking like that.With my patients I try to speak "fune'" but when I am back in my home or with my Nigerian brothers ,I speak normally and sometimes people ask me in Nigeria-"After so many years in london you still dey talk like us sha"

Once you have passed the age of 9,it is almost impossible to change your accent.
deor03 (m)
Re: Is It Necessary To 'try' And Adapt An American,west Indian Or British Accent ?
« #78 on: December 11, 2007, 04:12 PM »

many people just like forming,
I did not know that my flat mate was a nigerian for a long time. the accent is britico to the core.

it was when someone came to look for him one day and asked for (okechukwu) that my jaw dropped.

Oyinbo will never learn to talk like us but we always love to be like them

SAD Sad
blueband (m)
Re: Is It Necessary To 'try' And Adapt An American,west Indian Or British Accen
« #79 on: December 12, 2007, 12:23 AM »

This Okechukwu guy probably was born and bred in England.There are loads of them in London.Due to no fault of theirs,they have never been to Africa not to talk of Nigeria.Won't blame them if they speak only "fune"
britgirlee (f)
Re: Is It Necessary To 'try' And Adapt An American,west Indian Or British Accent ?
« #80 on: December 12, 2007, 08:29 AM »

Quote from: blueband on December 12, 2007, 12:23 AM
This Okechukwu guy probably was born and bred in England.There are loads of them in London.Due to no fault of theirs,they have never been to Africa not to talk of Nigeria.Won't blame them if they speak only "fune"

I was born in london and spent only three years in Nigeria so obviously i speak with an accent , and i do have a nigerian surname.

I do not speak 'fune'  Wink and I don't think think 'fault' is relevant here.  In reverse I would say they are loads of Nigerians in nigeria in very good careers etc and have the 'adapted 'fune' accents Grin, youll  find it very hard to find a nigerian who prefers to keep his/her own accent Wink
chiogo (f)
Re: Is It Necessary To 'try' And Adapt An American,west Indian Or British Accent ?
« #81 on: January 14, 2008, 08:33 PM »

Quote from: spoilt on December 04, 2007, 01:54 AM
you guys keep saying when in rome do as the romans. why do these oyibos not adapt our accent when they are in nigeria?  Grin. they never feel the need to. even in nigeria people who have never stepped foot outside the country put on phony accents. i honestly could no longer listen to the radio in nigeria.Them voice jockeys sounding like they are gurgling petrol!  Angry
I get your point but i gotta say that i agree with Souless on the 'over-doin' thingy. First of all, Nigeria as a country is already inferior to Western countries such as the US. I got a question, a rhetorical one. Those Americans in Nigeria, do u see any of 'em workin' in petty jobs?? No,i don't think so because your government Wink, the Nigerian government already believe white folks to be inferior because why else would an Indigene of Nigeria be found bein' a 'bus conductor' while a white person is the CEO of an oil company.So u tell me, Nigerians already made them superior so the white folks feel they got nothin' to lose because they got the upperhand even in 'our' country. But a Nigerian in the US also has a disadvantage because the white folks are also superior in the US and if they don't comprehend you, that's your own beeswax to them because they'D keep tellin' you, 'i don't understand you'. I've seen it happen, not to me though. Anywayz, after all these scenarios i painted, newcomers really have no choice but change their accents even a little but don't over-do it.
top_kin (m)
Re: Is It Necessary To 'try' And Adapt An American,west Indian Or British Accent ?
« #82 on: January 14, 2008, 11:38 PM »

Entirely unnecessary and absolutely unrewarding!!!  Angry
Jafarre (m)
Re: Is It Necessary To 'try' And Adapt An American,west Indian Or British Accent ?
« #83 on: January 15, 2008, 04:41 AM »

Quote from: chiogo on January 14, 2008, 08:33 PM
I get your point but i gotta say that i agree with Souless on the 'over-doin' thingy. First of all, Nigeria as a country is already inferior to Western countries such as the US. I got a question, a rhetorical one. Those Americans in Nigeria, do u see any of 'em workin' in petty jobs?? No,i don't think so because your government Wink, the Nigerian government already believe white folks to be inferior because why else would an Indigene of Nigeria be found bein' a 'bus conductor' while a white person is the CEO of an oil company.So u tell me, Nigerians already made them superior so the white folks feel they got nothin' to lose because they got the upperhand even in 'our' country. But a Nigerian in the US also has a disadvantage because the white folks are also superior in the US and if they don't comprehend you, that's your own beeswax to them because they'D keep tellin' you, 'i don't understand you'. I've seen it happen, not to me though. Anywayz, after all these scenarios i painted, newcomers really have no choice but change their accents even a little but don't over-do it.

if thats the case what is the point of adopting akata accent?
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