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Hero (m)
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This is a little piece written by an African-American I came across on the net, and it states pretty much the exact same points I've stated and fellow AA friends of mine have stated in regards to the Igbo/AA strong and obvious connection, in which has been historically proven as well. More and more I'm coming across site in where African-Americans who have taken the time to think and study openly into the ancestral descent of we African-Americans, have come to the blatantly obvious and historically documentively proven conclusion of that we African-Americans are a vastly majority Igbo descended people by about at least a 60% margin. With each passing year of indepth study into the descendency of the African-American people, evidence is consistently compiling revealing to the world that, the once long believed and pushed upon idea of that we were made up of a massive mix of ethnic groups with no one being of majority in any one region or plantation is a false tale, pushed widely to induce greater sense of lost cause, confusion of ones self and disconnection from their African roots. In the deep south (Georgia, South Carolina) there were massive coastal plantations known as the Gullah Estates in which were maned by upwards of a 80-85% Igbo majority, and in the Chesapeake region of the nation, especially Virgina, the Igbo made up such a large portion of both the free and slave population of the region that it was nicknamed by the blacks in the area New Eboland (Igboland), as mentioned in an unrelated documentary published in the early 1800's. A book named "murder at Montpelier" tells of the true story behind the assassination of President James Adams grandfather by a group of his female Igbo slaves who poisoned him. Igbo's made up over 80% of his estate's population. Thursday, June 29, 2006
our son has no king: who-do Igbo
peace
I'm going to veer off direct hoodoo talk for a second to build a bit on what's inside the "beautiful, bubblin' pot" (thanks script priest) known as African-American culture. I haven't invited too many Yoruba/Lukumi/Candomble heads into this space yet basically because I felt I needed to get this post out of the way first. It's a bit of a polemic, but it's been developed after many years of observation and informal research.
Many different peoples from many different parts of the Motherland came together in the United States to form the people we now call African-Americans. In the ongoing process of establishing and examinig our roots for purposes of self-determination and re-intergration the cultural and religious practices of certain extended family groups (aka tribes) have been forefronted and established themselves as the "norm" of "African" cultural practice in the States In the area of religion the ATR's (African Traditional Religions) of the Yoruba, Fon, Kongo and Akan peoples have established themselves as the standard, with the Yoruba based religions being the "gold standard". One thing all these peoples have in common is a hierarcheal political system based around a king (though it is my understanding that the Kongo system was much looser than the others). This co-incidentally (or not) coincided with the Western view of what an "evolved" political system should look like. That these ATRs largely failed to esablish themselves in this country (with exception of Louisiana, where imports from Haiti brought Voodoo) has made it seem that African-Americans have somehow "lost" a part of their culture. In the case of the "gold standard " Yoruba culture it's just not the case that the culture was "lost". The major forced exodus of the Yoruba populations out of Africa into the "New World" happened AFTER legal slave importation into the US. was banned so a widespread Yoruba diaspora was unable to estabish itself in the US.(note- I have been told a Yoruba community existed in Mobile, Ala.) I contend that Bantu/Kongos (who were numerically the largest African group exported to America) did what they did elsewhere, which was align their practices with those of the culturally dominant groups (though I accept that it could be argued that alot of Bantu knowlegde DID dissappear- but the fact that Dr. Buzzard's bones have never been found tells me ALL the secrets weren't lost- they just stayed secret). It should be mentioned that the ancestors themselves re-established Akan practices in the US.
So who is this seemingly invisible dominant African cultural group?, I've always been struck by the fact that jazz developed and evolved in the US and nowhere else in the African diaspora. My inital intuition was that it had to do with with a particular set of people that were sent to and flourished in the US and not elsewhere. After reading some anarchist theory I realized that jazz reflected a very similar thought process to what the anarchists aspired to. Which got me to thinking there must have cultural precedent, probably going back to Africa, for the egalitarian structure of dixieland, bebop, free jazz, etc. Which led to research on which set of people actually came to the US. I used to tell my friends that it seemed everyone who didnt want to be ruled in Africa got sent to the States. I started to feel I was on the right track when I found info on the warlords in Senegambia (who were Muslim) who would capture and sell the people who wouldn't accept their rulership and those who wouldnt convert to Islam to the British. The people who the Wolof warlords conquered lived in what the anthropologists called stateless societies. They didnt have kings or large-scale overarching external political structures. Everything was decieded locally and everyone who was considered free had a say. While researching my Sea Island roots I found the same political structure existed among the Mende, Temne, etc. Now we're getting somewhere. Then I found the book "The Igbo Of Southeast Nigeria". It sat on my shelf for awhile before i deceided to read it. All I can say is every A-A interested in the culture of the US needs to read that book. If you don't see the thought processes of yourself or someone you know well (for better or worse) reflected in that book I'll be shocked. I'D go so far as to say in my opinion the Igbo culture holds the place in the US that the Yoruba culture holds in Brazil, Trinidad, and Cuba. The Bight of Biafra was the largest exporter of slaves in the late 1700's early 1800's. Legal inportation of slaves ended in the US in 1807. (As an aside I recently read a book about Denmark Vesey and his aborted rebellion in Charleston.He had 5000 soldiers (I believe) broken up into thre sections Gullah (led by Gullah Jack) mainland and Igbo.)
Anyway, there is a saying "the Igbo have no kings."
What does this have to do with hoodoo (or roots as my Granma would say)? With no king your personal relationship to God and his fractal manifestation in you, your Chi as the Igbo say, becomes the most important one for the community as well as yourself. The power of God, in his mercy and his judgement falls directly on your's and the community's heads. The lack of a king means each individual is his own king, with the powers and responsibilities inherent in that role. What the ancestors and world gives you is yours to use and innovate with as you see fit if you can get ancestral and community sanction. God himself will judge you (as Tupac knew). It also means imo that it's each individual's responsiblity to create and maintain the community with the power God gave them and each individual's responsibilty to police, adjust and when necessary heal themselves and the community with the assistance of the ancestors, their Chi, and God. Each person is their own fractal diety to the extent that they can manifest that power within themselves. From this perspective there is no one to bow to but the Highest.
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naija_diva (f)
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i believe that they are too.
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ow11 (m)
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Many Igbos were sold into slavery because of tribal wars and love of money/business. The Ijaws bought them ( like King JaJa) and sold them to white people. Most of them are found in the caribbean today. Most Jamaicans and southern Black Americans are descendants of Igbo slaves
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Hero (m)
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Many Igbos were sold into slavery because of tribal wars and love of money/business. The Ijaws bought them ( like King JaJa) and sold them to white people. Most of them are found in the caribbean today. Most Jamaicans and southern Black Americans are descendants of Igbo slaves
Actually, the majority of the Jamaican population is descendant from Windward and Gold coastal tribes, though Bahamians are equivalently of Igbo descent as African-Americans, which is no big surprise considering that they lay just off the eastern coast of Florida.
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edobabe (f)
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yeye thread. 
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romeo (m)
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Many Igbos were sold into slavery because of tribal wars and love of money/business. The Ijaws bought them ( like King JaJa) and sold them to white people. Most of them are found in the caribbean today. Most Jamaicans and southern Black Americans are descendants of Igbo slaves
And even if they bought him he's is still the biggest thing around, then and now in the whole niger delta ( a slave boy becoming a king and icon of his masters). This shows the strenght of the igbos even as slaves
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darfur (m)
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i think he meant that ijaws bought igbos like king jaja.
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chiogo (f)
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@topic, really?? i thought it was d yorubas.
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naija_diva (f)
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some of them are yorubas. they all came from west africa.
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deor03 (m)
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yeah it's true judging by the size JAYZ's nose 
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Jafarre (m)
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I read most of them from the congo
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Germannig
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What is majorively? Or do you mean majorly? Or is that an Igbo word? lol
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almondjoy (f)
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So? Clap for the famous ancestry!!!!!
Everybody say cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese!
Oh please give us a break!
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eldee (m)
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How will 60% of them slaves be Igbo? Fallacy, not that I'm saying we should trust wikipedia but should we trust some dude over millions of learned people? Slave Market Regions and ParticipationThere were eight principal areas used by Europeans to buy and ship slaves to the Western Hemisphere. The number of slaves sold to the new world varied throughout the slave trade. As for the distribution of slaves from regions of activity, certain areas produced far more slaves than others. Between 1650 and 1900, 10.24 million African slaves arrived in the Americas from the following regions in the following proportions:[24] Senegambia (Senegal and The Gambia): 4.8% Upper Guinea (Guinea-Bissau, Guinea and Sierra Leone): 4.1% Windward Coast (Liberia and Cote d' Ivoire): 1.8% Gold Coast (Ghana): 10.4% Bight of Benin (Togo, Benin and Nigeria west of the Niger Delta): 20.2% Bight of Biafra (Nigeria east of the Niger Delta, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea and Gabon): 14.6% West Central Africa (Republic of Congo, Democratic Republic of Congo and Angola): 39.4% Southeastern Africa (Mozambique and Madagascar): 4.7% Source: Wikpedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade#Slave_Market_Regions_and_Participation
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Hero (m)
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How will 60% of them slaves be Igbo? Fallacy, not that I'm saying we should trust wikipedia but should we trust some dude over millions of learned people? Slave Market Regions and ParticipationThere were eight principal areas used by Europeans to buy and ship slaves to the Western Hemisphere. The number of slaves sold to the new world varied throughout the slave trade. As for the distribution of slaves from regions of activity, certain areas produced far more slaves than others. Between 1650 and 1900, 10.24 million African slaves arrived in the Americas from the following regions in the following proportions:[24] Senegambia (Senegal and The Gambia): 4.8% Upper Guinea (Guinea-Bissau, Guinea and Sierra Leone): 4.1% Windward Coast (Liberia and Cote d' Ivoire): 1.8% Gold Coast (Ghana): 10.4% Bight of Benin (Togo, Benin and Nigeria west of the Niger Delta): 20.2% Bight of Biafra (Nigeria east of the Niger Delta, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea and Gabon): 14.6% West Central Africa (Republic of Congo, Democratic Republic of Congo and Angola): 39.4% Southeastern Africa (Mozambique and Madagascar): 4.7% Source: Wikpedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade#Slave_Market_Regions_and_ParticipationLook, I'm very studies on this topic. The information you've posted up is rather accurate, though please take not at what the statistics are focusing on. Those figure are giving a breakdown on the number of Africans in which were brought to the AMERICA(S) as a whole, and not America aka THE UNITED STATES. The issue here is not whether or not the Igbo were 60% of all Africans taken for slaves and brought to the Americas as a whole, in which the answer too such issue is HELL NO!! No, the issue in this thread is addressing the fact of that the majority of the Africans brought to the UNITED STATES and its preseeding Colonies were Igbo. ((Less)) than 6% of the Slaves brought to the AMERICAS were taken to the United States and out of that less than 6%, about 60% of those were Igbo are the facts that are being addressed here. Your Wiki information is irrelevant here.
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lazy (m)
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Look, I'm very studies on this topic. The information you've posted up is rather accurate, though please take not at what the statistics are focusing on. Those figure are giving a breakdown on the number of Africans in which were brought to the AMERICA(S) as a whole, and not America aka THE UNITED STATES. The issue here is not whether or not the Igbo were 60% of all Africans taken for slaves and brought to the Americas as a whole, in which the answer too such issue is HELL NO!! No, the issue in this thread is addressing the fact of that the majority of the Africans brought to the UNITED STATES and its preseeding Colonies were Igbo. ((Less)) than 6% of the Slaves brought to the AMERICAS were taken to the United States and out of that less than 6%, about 60% of those were Igbo are the facts that are being addressed here. Your Wiki information is irrelevant here.
in the US as a whole, Bight of Biafra exports were 18.6 percent of the 317,748 enslaved Africans recorded in the Du Bois database (Eltis et al. 1999).The passage above is in the paragraph below. Now there were large pockets of Igbo in location like Virginia which was a heavily Igbo area but to say 60% of all enslaved African brought to the States is going against what we know. Here are some passages from the book A Companion to African American History and the chapter called African Americans and an Atlantic World Culture written by William C. Rucker : http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/summary/117348821/SUMMARYThe Du Bois Institute database bears out this conclusion. This important project significantly modified the findings of Philip Curtin (1969) and provides a more accurate picture of the slave trade. The Du Bois database, for example, demonstrates that of 101,925 enslaved Africans from identifiable locations sent to Virginia, 44.8 percent came from the Bight of Biafra. In South Carolina, enslaved Africans from the Bight of Biafra accounted for just 9.89 percent of identifiable imports; in the US as a whole, Bight of Biafra exports were 18.6 percent of the 317,748 enslaved Africans recorded in the Du Bois database (Eltis et al. 1999). So it is possible to discuss a Bight of Biafra (Igbo) enclave in Virginia as a phenomenon unique in North America. Not only does this database corroborate many of the findings of Stuckey (1987), Gomez (1998), Washington [Creel] (1988) and others, but it opens new possibilities in the study of the formation of African American culture. Between 1701 and 1800, 45.1 percent of Africans entering Virginia from identifiable regions were embarked on ships leaving ports in the Bight of Biafra. Thus, Virginia imported a disproportionately large number of Igbo-speakers and others from Calabar and surrounding regions. As Lorena Walsh (1997) and James Sidbury (1997) contend, this emphasis on Igbo imports played a significant factor in the rise of Afro-Virginian culture. One cultural implication of the presence of so many Igbo-speakers was the proliferation of Igbo terms and concepts – okra, buckra, obia – or discrete Igbo cultural practices (for example, the Jonkonu celebration, funerary customs and spiritual beliefs) in Jamaica, Virginia, and other regions of the Anglophone Americas that imported significant numbers of Africans from the Bight of Biafra. Another implication, discussed by Sidbury (1997), was the possibility that Gabriel Prosser – leader of a failed Richmond slave revolt in 1800 – was accorded a great deal of respect and veneration because of his blacksmithing skills and the spiritual powers associated with this trade among the peoples living near the Niger River delta. In fact, three separate blacksmiths were claimed to have been part of the leadership core of this attempt to capture and raze the capital of Virginia (Walsh 2001; Walsh 1997; Sidbury 1997; Chambers 1997; Stuckey 1999; Gomez 1998).
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EloSela (f)
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In the program African American lives, TD Jakes was revealed to have DNA that matched the Igbo people of Nigeria. He said that he wasn't suprised at this outcome as he had always known that he had Igbo roots.
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lazy (m)
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@poster
I am still looking to see in what regions in the States other than Virginia where the majority of African Americans are of Igbo descent. That is the only region in North America that I know of. I would love to see what information that you have that is different from what I posted.
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Hero (m)
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Lazy:
Actually it is within the entire Chesapeake region that the Igbo were dominant by a nearly 75% majority, and not just within Virginia. Outside of that region all up and down the Eastern coastal states, they were a majority by about a 60% majority. It's only with the Gulf states that they were not the majority. In the Gulf states the Central African tribes make up the majority of the imported into that region, and most of them were slaves taken from current day Angola by way of Caribbean holding grounds in Santo Domingo, current day nations of Haiti and Dominican Republic, Cuba and Guiana.
The Igbo's lowest percentages along the eastern seaboard were found within South Carolina, in where heavy amounts of Senegambians were brought do to their specialized rice growing abilities in which were need in mass to develop the states rice growing industry. In South Carolina, the Igbo percentage of the population was only about 45%.
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+osisi
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A true story passed down from my great great grandfather recalls how he escaped from captivity in the dead of the night. I would have been born in Chatanooga Tennessee
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+osisi
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Anyone who has spent any length of time in the southern United states can attest to the fact that the African Americans there look so Igbo. Read about Ibo landing in south Carolina
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+osisi
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The historical roots of the flying Africans legend can be traced back to the spring of 1803, when a group of Igbo slaves arrived in Savannah after enduring the nightmare of the Middle Passage. The Igbo (from what is now the nation of Nigeria, in central West Africa) were renowned throughout the American South for being fiercely independent and unwilling to tolerate the humiliations of chattel slavery. The Igbo who became known as the flying Africans were purchased at the slave market in Savannah by agents working on behalf of John Couper and Thomas Spalding. Loaded aboard a small vessel, the Igbo were confined below deck for the trip down the coast to St. Simons. During the course of the journey, however, the Igbo rose up in rebellion against the white agents, who jumped overboard and were drowned. http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/nge/Article.jsp?id=h-2895
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lazy (m)
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Lazy:
Actually it is within the entire Chesapeake region that the Igbo were dominant by a nearly 75% majority, and not just within Virginia. Outside of that region all up and down the Eastern coastal states, they were a majority by about a 60% majority. It's only with the Gulf states that they were not the majority. In the Gulf states the Central African tribes make up the majority of the imported into that region, and most of them were slaves taken from current day Angola by way of Caribbean holding grounds in Santo Domingo, current day nations of Haiti and Dominican Republic, Cuba and Guiana.
The Igbo's lowest percentages along the eastern seaboard were found within South Carolina, in where heavy amounts of Senegambians were brought do to their specialized rice growing abilities in which were need in mass to develop the states rice growing industry. In South Carolina, the Igbo percentage of the population was only about 45%.
I am responding to the fact that you stated that the majority (around 60%) of African Americans (total in the States) are of Igbo descent. I grant you that in the Chesapeake region it is possible the majority that came in to the States were from the Bight of Biafra but the Dubois database states that the total that came into the States (total) from that area was around 20% or less. I don't see how 60% is possible for the total African American population unless there is another source that I need to look at that shows this to be incorrect.
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lazy (m)
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I am not saying that the South Carolina or the Georgia region did not import some Igbos but as far as States and Igbos being a majority of a state. The only State that I know of where that existed was Virginia. I am sorry if it came across that way. Hero stated that around 60 %of African Americans are of Igbo descent and I was stating that it is impossible with the data that we know today. That is what I was responding to not that Igbos were in other places in the States but the only US State that I have data that the majority of enslaved Africans were Igbo is Virginia.
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lazy (m)
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Lazy:
Actually it is within the entire Chesapeake region that the Igbo were dominant by a nearly 75% majority, and not just within Virginia. Outside of that region all up and down the Eastern coastal states, they were a majority by about a 60% majority. It's only with the Gulf states that they were not the majority. In the Gulf states the Central African tribes make up the majority of the imported into that region, and most of them were slaves taken from current day Angola by way of Caribbean holding grounds in Santo Domingo, current day nations of Haiti and Dominican Republic, Cuba and Guiana.
The Igbo's lowest percentages along the eastern seaboard were found within South Carolina, in where heavy amounts of Senegambians were brought do to their specialized rice growing abilities in which were need in mass to develop the states rice growing industry. In South Carolina, the Igbo percentage of the population was only about 45%.
Well, now that I am looking into it, I don't know if it was the whole Chesapeake region which would include Maryland because that state imported overwhelmingly from the Senagambia region. So I will stick to just saying the Chesapeake region of Virgina. Maryland imported a large number of Africans from Senegambia (49.4 percent) and did not mirror the reliance on imports from the Bight of Biafra found in its Chesapeake neighbor, Virginia (Eltis et al.1999). The only place that I know of is Virginia where Bight of Biafra imports were the majority brought into any one state. You can check my sources by reading up on David Eltis and the work that he has done on the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database. http://www.dubois.fas.harvard.edu/research_projects/trans_atlantic_slave_trade_database.html
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cris-ngige
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@ hero td jakes is igbo as u said.but im not sure bout what you said about the gullah being all igbo: their language has words from other african tribes apart from igbo.
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thecavsman
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Hello everyone
So African Americans are of Igbo discent?
First of all, I want to say that my whole life has changed - I now know my ancestry and my true people and I can finally live a normal, fulfilled life! (joking)
I find it rather unbelieveable that most black americans are of igbo discent. First of all, NO slaves, or very very few, were brought to America without first going through the Carribean. That was how the trade routes went. Some even spent significant time in the Carribean, being mixed up with all types of slaves, before coming to the US.
The other thing is, I really wish that black Americans would realize that they are a mixed people, with no only Afircan but European and Native American roots. We look at Hispanic Carribeans as mixed race, not realizing that we are very mixed too. The African part of Black Americans (the biggest part genetically) come from all parts of Africa (primarily West). The slave trade was such a mixup that it is impossible to pinpoint things except for generalities. Generally, people in the New Orleans area were Igbos. Generally, people in Puerto Rico were Congolese. I just can't believe that there is a general tribe that African Americans came from to this huge, spread out country. Look at us, we vary so much.
And I want to FINALLY get people to stop talking about these genetic tests that Oprah and Whitaker, etc have gotten. Think of it like this - I am 6 generations out of slavery, I believe - that is 64 great-grandparents that I had at the Emancipation proclamation. Those 64 people came from all sorts of origins. Some were here since the 1600s, some were were since 1805. They came from everywhere and you can NOT pinpoint ANYTHING about them. Now, what these mitochondria tests do - they follow the mitochondria gene all the way back to African through the mother, grandmother, great grandmother - as it only passes through mothers. So that means that, if Oprah says she is from Liberia, she only knows that one of were 128 or 256 grandparents (going back 7 or 8 generations, which is likely when the arrival was) is from Liberia. She has confirmed that she is 1/128th Liberian, at best. I bet we are ALL that much Liberian. I am not saying we shouldn't look into genetic ancestry, but I just want to point out that the current technology tells you nothing about yourself. I am waiting for a graph that will show me where every single one of my grandparents came from - that would be interesting, but I doubt I see that in my lifetime (I am only 21, however lol).
Anyway - we are a very mixed African people from all sorts of tribes (and even with some non-african influences), and that should be evident by what I just wrote.
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lazy (m)
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Hello everyone
So African Americans are of Igbo discent?
First of all, I want to say that my whole life has changed - I now know my ancestry and my true people and I can finally live a normal, fulfilled life! (joking)
I find it rather unbelieveable that most black americans are of igbo discent. First of all, NO slaves, or very very few, were brought to America without first going through the Carribean. That was how the trade routes went. Some even spent significant time in the Carribean, being mixed up with all types of slaves, before coming to the US.
The other thing is, I really wish that black Americans would realize that they are a mixed people, with no only Afircan but European and Native American roots. We look at Hispanic Carribeans as mixed race, not realizing that we are very mixed too. The African part of Black Americans (the biggest part genetically) come from all parts of Africa (primarily West). The slave trade was such a mixup that it is impossible to pinpoint things except for generalities. Generally, people in the New Orleans area were Igbos. Generally, people in Puerto Rico were Congolese. I just can't believe that there is a general tribe that African Americans came from to this huge, spread out country. Look at us, we vary so much.
And I want to FINALLY get people to stop talking about these genetic tests that Oprah and Whitaker, etc have gotten. Think of it like this - I am 6 generations out of slavery, I believe - that is 64 great-grandparents that I had at the Emancipation proclamation. Those 64 people came from all sorts of origins. Some were here since the 1600s, some were were since 1805. They came from everywhere and you can NOT pinpoint ANYTHING about them. Now, what these mitochondria tests do - they follow the mitochondria gene all the way back to African through the mother, grandmother, great grandmother - as it only passes through mothers. So that means that, if Oprah says she is from Liberia, she only knows that one of were 128 or 256 grandparents (going back 7 or 8 generations, which is likely when the arrival was) is from Liberia. She has confirmed that she is 1/128th Liberian, at best. I bet we are ALL that much Liberian. I am not saying we shouldn't look into genetic ancestry, but I just want to point out that the current technology tells you nothing about yourself. I am waiting for a graph that will show me where every single one of my grandparents came from - that would be interesting, but I doubt I see that in my lifetime (I am only 21, however lol).
Anyway - we are a very mixed African people from all sorts of tribes (and even with some non-african influences), and that should be evident by what I just wrote.
I first want to say that you are correct that African Americans are a mixture of many different African ethnic Groups. With that said, you have mad some absolute statements that are false. I don't like absolute statements because for the most part they are never correct. They did bring African people from the continent directly to the States. I would like you to show me where your source for this information because there were many enslaved Africans brought to the States directly. The last ship to bring Africans to the States was in 1859 in Alabama. It wasn't 1805. Which for some people alive today would only be a grandparent for someone born around 1910 - 1925. You made a statement that people can't pinpoint anything. Well they can because they have done the research and a great percentage the Slavers voyages have been documented and they do know where Africans came from. The problem is that people don't research or care to look. I agree with you that the statement ALL AFRICAN AMERICANS by Hero is totally incorrect, but I would agree that with the data that we know now thanks to the TransAtlantic Slave Trade Database that was done at Harvard's WEB Dubois Institue of African and African American Research (The Editors: David Eltis and G. Ugo Nwokeji). Shows real trends in certain States. Like I stated to Hero earlier, the only place where the data shows that the majority of enslaved Africans coming out of the Bight of Biafra is in the Virginia. So his statement is possible if ONLY talking about African Virginians. The other States show other things. Like Maryland showing high Senagambian enslaved African imports.
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naija_diva (f)
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I agree with you that the statement ALL AFRICAN AMERICANS by Hero is totally incorrect, hero never said that ALL aa's are of igbo descent, he said most of them.
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lazy (m)
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@naija_diva
I am sorry I meant to say majority. He didn't say ALL.
His statement is still incorrect.
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