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ojd (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #32 on: April 03, 2006, 02:10 AM »

Guys, Grisham is my favourite I've got all his books, he is good at weaving stories around amatuers, lawyers with stroke of luck, theres no way you can predict how the story goes. THE CHAMBERS is a good one, most readers including myself had thought Sam Cayhall {an unrepentant racist and former Klansman} will escape the gas chambers with all the last minute legal battles btu what happens, another is the last juror you cannot just know where the story takes you.

After reading four of Ludlum's books, he is very predictable with his characters. Though he is a good writer, I think Grisham ranks above him.

Quote from: GL on March 31, 2006, 02:31 AM
how about Mario Puzo?


Puzo, is also a good writer if you love the MAFIA world, he is your besy bet
rukalade (f)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #33 on: April 03, 2006, 05:56 PM »

[b][/b]i believe john grisham is the best because i av read tons of his book and i but them anywhere do we want to talk about the rainmaker or the painted house abi na surviving christmas we go yarn about.so john grisham beats robert ludlum hands down
kinglarry (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #34 on: April 03, 2006, 07:57 PM »

Quote from: rukalade on April 03, 2006, 05:56 PM
[b][/b]i believe john grisham is the best because i av read tons of his book and i but them anywhere do we want to talk about the rainmaker or the painted house abi na surviving christmas we go yarn about.so john grisham beats robert ludlum hands down

You don't tell the house if you have read Robert Ludlum's books, if not you are not in best position to judge
ava rose (f)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #35 on: April 04, 2006, 08:21 PM »

I have read only the bourne series and cry of the halidon written by ludlum but i have read a lot of book written by ghrisham.They are both very interesting writers and i respect their work but i think ludlum is better.
gem87 (f)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #36 on: April 08, 2006, 04:45 PM »

ludlum will do, never read his book but my boyfriend is crazy about him
Zahymaka (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #37 on: April 08, 2006, 06:54 PM »

If I were your boyfriend and happened to be crazy about Grisham I suppose you'd choose him.
gem87 (f)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #38 on: April 09, 2006, 05:50 PM »

lol u betcha!
Zahymaka (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #39 on: April 09, 2006, 05:52 PM »

Then you're voicing your boyfriend's opinion -- not yours!
gem87 (f)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #40 on: April 09, 2006, 06:24 PM »

hey, i said i've never read his book, so i cn't really say aight
i do romance, classics and some other nice books
eslynera (f)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #41 on: April 09, 2006, 08:23 PM »

John Grisham is the bang!!!!!!! Smiley Cheesy
I won't let his books pass me by just like that, owww. Shocked
mukina2 (f)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #42 on: April 09, 2006, 09:02 PM »

with john grisham you feel the suspence,the court room drama, he makes you really enter the story, i think in all legal stories he's the best, he has holding your breath waiting for the final twist, he has you sitting up all night long till u finish the story, he's something else
eslynera (f)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #43 on: April 09, 2006, 09:06 PM »

*continuing the statement.*  than a normal author, u wont say "John Grisham is boaring."
No, he's just toooo great. Wink Smiley
Zahymaka (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #44 on: April 09, 2006, 09:18 PM »

Depends on your preferences. Ludlum has no idea about emotions -- yet he tries to get the "super-man" and his gril in a love scene to compensate for it -- I think he does a shody job there.

Grisham does not use love scenes. I like him for being straight-laced. At the same time he know how to make you feel one person is in love with the other. For example, Rudd Baylor in Rainmaker.
H.U.S.H (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #45 on: April 11, 2006, 06:12 AM »

Dont knock ludlum till u've tried him. I read more of grisham though, i think people run away from from ludlum because his books always look imposing. I love him too but i need to read more of his books, think I've read about four
Zahymaka (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #46 on: April 11, 2006, 11:58 AM »

I hope you're not referring  to me. I've read more than 12 books by Ludlum -- far more than the about 7 Grisham books I've read but I still prefer Grisham. Ludlum is not as imposing as Tom Clancy  -- yet I also rank Clancy higher.
slybase (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #47 on: April 19, 2006, 02:20 AM »

Quote from: Zahymaka on April 11, 2006, 11:58 AM
I hope you're not referring to me. I've read more than 12 books by Ludlum -- far more than the about 7 Grisham books I've read but I still prefer Grisham. Ludlum is not as imposing as Tom Clancy -- yet I also rank Clancy higher.
me thinks you are a Clancy fan, but don't you think the guy(or man), over emphasises his intellignce. i mean, he attempts to show the whole world that he is intelligent and there makes one lose the flow of the work. Never found an author like Grisham, young, dynamic(at least to an extent) and the epitomy of novelist.
Zahymaka (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #48 on: April 19, 2006, 03:17 AM »

He's writing for techies -- at least that's what I think. When you're trying to show off, it becomes harder as you write successive books -- but Clancy never breaks the flow.

I didn't say I don't like Grisham -- I prefer him to Ludlum -- but I'm somewhat of a nerd so I happen to love Clancy. It's just my preference -- I'm not forcing people to like him too.
slybase (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #49 on: April 19, 2006, 03:56 AM »

the truth is i spent 1500naira to buy a clancy novel and i did not get past the 20th page (i mean, no value for my money). guess i am not too much intrested in espionage, war, science fiction, and the like, i prefer things that are more human
Zahymaka (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #50 on: April 19, 2006, 02:03 PM »

 Funny Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin . Like I said, it's a matter of preference. Clancy's one of the few authors whose books I can't put down.
Baatunde (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #51 on: April 21, 2006, 11:41 AM »

Walahi Zahymaka has summarised it all, everything about LUDLUM's books is always a variant of conspiracies about people who want to take over the world for some purposes. There is no doubt he was a great writer ( learnt he is dead is it true?), but his sytle is so predictable that i recently had to drop one of the books i was reading recently midway. As for Grisham, NNA when u hear "ise opolo" brain work , i doff my hat to that guy, his plots are so intricate and diverse and even though its almost always about a lawsuit or similar thing, he nevertheless manages to introduce an element of uniqueness that makes the book ' unputdownable' to borrow the language of a book reviewer.
kinglarry (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #52 on: April 21, 2006, 09:42 PM »

Quote from: Baatunde on April 21, 2006, 11:41 AM
Walahi Zahymaka has summarised it all, everything about LUDLUM's books is always a variant of conspiracies about people who want to take over the world for some purposes. There is no doubt he was a great writer ( learnt he is dead is it true?), but his sytle is so predictable that i recently had to drop one of the books i was reading recently midway. As for Grisham, NNA when u hear "ise opolo" brain work , i doff my hat to that guy, his plots are so intricate and diverse and even though its almost always about a lawsuit or similar thing, he nevertheless manages to introduce an element of uniqueness that makes the book ' unputdownable' to borrow the language of a book reviewer.

He died in March 2001, reportedly leaving behind several unpublished manuscripts and rough outlines, which continue to be dusted off and published with the help of ghostwriters. This is a testament to his continued popularity.
Zahymaka (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #53 on: April 24, 2006, 04:00 AM »

Quote from: kinglarry on April 21, 2006, 09:42 PM
He died in March 2001, reportedly leaving behind several unpublished manuscripts and rough outlines, which continue to be dusted off and published with the help of ghostwriters. This is a testament to his continued popularity.


Did it occur to you that Tom Clancy has a larger following -- with games being made and authors trying to write like Tom Clancy and requesting permission to brand their books as Clancy-like?
Vieira (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #54 on: April 24, 2006, 10:58 AM »

For me hands down it is Ludlum!

and I mean the original Ludlum not the fake Ludlum who is now writing his books (his son I think).

Grisham has had some good books like "The Firm" and "A Time to Kill" but overall I find his books very boring.

Ludlum on the other hand is great at suspense, excitement and tension.

Matarese Circle was a masterclass in suspense.

Bourne Identity is a classic!

Ludlum has never let me down in any of his books.

He is sorely missed.
Zahymaka (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #55 on: April 24, 2006, 01:53 PM »

When you've read as many Ludlum books as I have, you'll discover that Ludlum is highly predictable. I rank Leon Uris and Tom Clancy higher than him.

I guess yu're not into law -- or Grisham would fascinate you. Well, it's a matter of opinion -- I once thought Ludlum was the best writer in the world at one time.
Vieira (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #56 on: April 24, 2006, 02:07 PM »

As you said it is a matter of opinion.

The last Grisham I read was the King of Torts and after reading it I honestly said to myself this is the last grisham I will ever read, it was that bad for me.

I have read all Ludlum (original) and while he does tend to go a lot for major conspiracy theories I personally do not find them predictable.

Clancy is good as well and I loved his Hunt for Red October, he is more adept with technical aspects of thrillers and hence his books are well founded in the 21st century.

Clancy is more Government oriented in terms of his conspiracies, I love his Ryan character a lot.
Zahymaka (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #57 on: April 24, 2006, 04:47 PM »

Good! I'm glad we see eye-to-eye on that one. It's just a matter of preference. I hated anything to do with the law until I read Grisham.
slybase (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #58 on: April 24, 2006, 09:13 PM »

ALthough i would consider myself a die-hard Grisham fan. I really think his "King of Torts" wasn't that good, even with all the publicity he gave it.
Agreed; Ludlum is wonderful but Clancy, can you stop typing that name please
losky (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #59 on: May 04, 2006, 11:52 AM »

id also pick grisham,but like zahymaka said,its actually a matter of opinion
i also think king of torts wasnt so good.
i just finished the broker. i read it for more than a week,which is so unusual and says how terrible i think it was.
eslynera (f)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #60 on: May 06, 2006, 11:40 PM »

they're all good, but grisham'll be ma first choice/vote, he really rocks!!!! anybody'll like him Kiss Smiley
uzygirl (f)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #61 on: May 25, 2006, 07:08 PM »

Its not fair to compare these two at all oh. Both are tooooo Cool

Both are masters in their own game, but with Ludlum "the winner always takes it all".
Grisham not predictable at all, and the last pages always take you to the peak.
The first Ludlum I read was 'raod to gandolfo'. It was a disaster and kept me off Ludlum for more than 5 years. But i'm 'born again",(with Ludlum oh) and not regreting it.

I've read all Grisham except for the last two. By the way, Who has read "The painted house"? I read it and thought "wow, age must be catching up with this man" Twas like a simple a narrative essay.

But if I had to choose one, I'll pick a Grisham first then a Ludlum.
molluma (f)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #62 on: May 26, 2006, 04:46 PM »

give me john grisham anytime.have read all his books asides king of torts.
Baatunde (m)
Re: Robert Ludlum Or John Grisham?
« #63 on: June 11, 2006, 09:23 PM »

As has been said by various contributors, it really depends on what stuffs u like to read, i ve got people who are die-hard fans of Agatha Christie's Poirot and Marple, but back to the main theme,  Ludlum or Grisham,  the shortcomings of the King of Torts notwithstanding,  i still rate Grisham higher than Ludlum, meanwhile just to ask if my memory still serves me well, i once read a book several years ago, WINDCHIME LEGACY, by one LUdlum whethere its Richard or Robert i can't really recollect now, anybody ever heard of the book?
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