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McKren (m)
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Bakassi people have a right to determine their Nationality. The ICJ judgement only confirms that the land on which they live on is within the jurisdiction of Cameroon. They may decide to continue living there as immigrants or relocate to another land within Nigeria's jurisdiction.
Really?   ? So when did the Bakassi people migrate to Bakassi and where did they migrate from?  ?? Except you are telling me ICJ has the devine right to evict people from their land.
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babasin (m)
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If war breaks out between Nigeria and Cameroon tomorrow, we will not feel the consequences alone so I don't understand why it should be up to us to avert war by giving up what is ours. good strategy thinking. shame, Nigeria always have shallow thinkers in affairs. this ajibola guy saying ICJ law is binding on Nigeria because he + obj screwed-up, is the worst nonsense I have heared in years.
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Crude Oil (m)
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I was elated when I got the news. But where was the senate when Obasanjo was ceding bakassi over to cameroon.
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Crude Oil (m)
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I was elated when I got the news. But where was the senate when Obasanjo was ceding bakassi over to cameroon.
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Mamajama (m)
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I asked the same question, and now all this useless senators as i called them are trading blames now.
Maybe if they get off their asses and start doing what they are elected or selected to do, this could have been prevented.
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buluti (m)
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good strategy thinking.
shame, Nigeria always have shallow thinkers in affairs.
this ajibola guy saying ICJ law is binding on Nigeria because he + obj screwed-up, is the worst nonsense I have heared in years.
Mr Babasin, where are you from. ICJ law is not binding on Nigeria. Mr inconsistency aka rule of law. You want to follow rules when it comes to protecting accused politicians, but when the law in this case ICJ ruling is seemingly against your position it should be disregarded. Absolute nonsense whether OBJ ratified it or not the ruling was binding, the way people cried when OBJ didnt obey court rulings, the one he decided to obey is now the problem. What manner of people. Questions that should be asked and that way the same mistakes keep happening. Lets take a trip who handled Nigeria's case in the ICJ, what was the level of competence, was there a persuassion towards the yearnings of the people or were we trying to prove a border boundary defence we were sure going to loose. Rather its obeying the outcome that is being questioned? What a manner of people. In your dreams war indeed, have you ever experienced war, or being to a war ravished nations. I am tired of Sit tight Nigerians shouting take a trip to Somalia. The senate is just playing politics, they will ratify it soon enough.
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folem
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Mr Babasin, where are you from. ICJ law is not binding on Nigeria. Mr inconsistency aka rule of law. You want to follow rules when it comes to protecting accused politicians, but when the law in this case ICJ ruling is seemingly against your position it should be disregarded.
Absolute nonsense whether OBJ ratified it or not the ruling was binding, the way people cried when OBJ didnt obey court rulings, the one he decided to obey is now the problem. What manner of people. Questions that should be asked and that way the same mistakes keep happening. Lets take a trip who handled Nigeria's case in the ICJ, what was the level of competence, was there a persuassion towards the yearnings of the people or were we trying to prove a border boundary defence we were sure going to loose. Rather its obeying the outcome that is being questioned? What a manner of people.
In your dreams war indeed, have you ever experienced war, or being to a war ravished nations. I am tired of Sit tight Nigerians shouting take a trip to Somalia. The senate is just playing politics, they will ratify it soon enough.
I think Nigerians are generally lawless and this can be traced back to a many years of Military arbitrary rule. Okada riders ride against traffic indiscriminately and the same applies to Danfo drivers. The so-called educated drivers fail to obey traffic lights and resorts to fisticuffs in the event of minor road accidents. Garbage litters some of our major roads and is sometimes dropped from moving luxury cars. New banks building materials are dumped on the road as if the road belongs to their Board Chairman. Umbrella telephone operators and Beer parlours setup shop in the midde of the road and illegal kiosks dominate the landscape. Lets us disobey the ICJ judgement because lawlessness is certainly in our character.
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emmydee (m)
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denex, u can c how different u are in your opinion. thats how every OBJ man would look at this issue.It was wrong in the 1st place to cede bakassi to any country. Ken Nnamani has pointed out how OBJ took unilateral decisions and bakassi issue was one of them. The senate should go ahead to upturn that decision. stupid OBJ
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folahann (m)
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May be OBJ agreed with the camorounians to have his own personal share of anything got from bakassi oil. Nigeria is a better country to hold unto Bakassi than . , , . . . . . . . .
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denex
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Let us be honest with ourselves and stop looking at issues with only our left eye.
The Germans and the English were the ones who carved the Nigerian and Camerounian borders respectively. The Germans have declared that according to their maps, Bakassi belonged to Cameroun. The British have declared that according to their maps, Bakassi did not belong to Nigeria. The French who took over administration of Cameroun from Germany have declared that Bakassi belongs to Cameroun. Besides that, the Nigerian Government bargained with Cameroun in a deal which would have seen Nigeria give up all claim on Bakassi. Finally we have an ICJ ruling that has put the matter at rest. What else do we want to hear? Must an angel come down and point at the map for us? Please all this rubbish war-mongering should stop.
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davidylan (m)
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@ Denex, all your explanation misses one key fact - THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE TO DETERMINE WHICH COUNTRY THEY WISH TO BELONG TO. Trust me, only in Africa do colonial masters still determine border disputes in the yr 2007.
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denex
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Well, if the people want to decide which country to belong to, then they should go to the ICJ. The Nigerian Government can support them financially. If they win the case to joini Nigeria in the ICJ, then Nigeria can come in if Cameroun won't let go. That's the best we can do.
I wonder why people will be killing to be a part of Nigeria when others are killing to break off. Please they should just go with Cameroun or form their own Republic of Bakassi and stop using Nigeria's name to kill people up and down.
When we accept them tomorrow, they will start shouting marginalization. Please, we have enough people already.
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davidylan (m)
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Well, if the people want to decide which country to belong to, then they should go to the ICJ. The Nigerian Government can support them financially. If they win the case to joini Nigeria in the ICJ, then Nigeria can come in if Cameroun won't let go. That's the best we can do.
In developed nations the rulings of the ICJ are never binding (such bogus courts are reserved for slow-witted African nations who need the white man to think for him) as there are constitutional provisions for referendums. Unfortunately such simple tasks are simply beyond us.
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ono (m)
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Well, if the people want to decide which country to belong to, then they should go to the ICJ. The Nigerian Government can support them financially. If they win the case to joini Nigeria in the ICJ, then Nigeria can come in if Cameroun won't let go. That's the best we can do.
I wonder why people will be killing to be a part of Nigeria when others are killing to break off. Please they should just go with Cameroun or form their own Republic of Bakassi and stop using Nigeria's name to kill people up and down.
When we accept them tomorrow, they will start shouting marginalization. Please, we have enough people already.
I'm suprised this is coming from you, Denex. Even if you don't know the intricacies involved in ICJ politics, can't you at least for pete sake say something nice to comfort the grieving people of Bakassi? Did you say you're from the Niger Delta some time ago? I think you're not from the place, and if you are, then you're one of those with mixed blood. The Bakassi people ordinarily won't mind forming a nation of their own; but will the politics of oil, that denied them a place amongst their kinsmen in Akwaibom and Cross River, let them be? Won't Nigeria or Cameroon go all out against them if they put up any resistance? Do you think Cameroon or Nigerian government care about the feelings of the people in that place? Get it right man, behind the smokescreen of where Bakassi belongs, Oil is the main cause of conflict in that area.
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I-man (m)
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Once Nigeria submitted to the jurisdiction of the ICJ,it has no choice but to comply with its ruling on the matter.You can't submit to the court's jurisdiction and once the ruling goes against you,proclaim that you are not bound by it.We won't be having this debate if the court ruled in our favor.
It was not obligatory on us to have the dispute litigated by the ICJ.ICJ's jurisdiction operates on the basis of consent.We consented,we lost,case closed.
Wiser nations,like Israel, have the foresight not to consent to the ICJ's jurisdiction.
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willy*2
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I'm suprised this is coming from you, Denex. Even if you don't know the intricacies involved in ICJ politics, can't you at least for pete sake say something nice to comfort the grieving people of Bakassi? Did you say you're from the Niger Delta some time ago? I think you're not from the place,
Don't be surprised by his opinion, it's normal for human to have different OPI. But for real, Edo State is not really in Niger Delta.
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davidylan (m)
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Wiser nations,like Israel, have the foresight not to consent to the ICJ's jurisdiction.
Gbam! There goes my point.
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folem
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"Wise" Military Dictators like IBB e.t.c, also had the "foresight" not to consent to any court jurisdiction even our "Electorate-Usurping" Supreme Court was put in check with ouster clauses in the Decrees promulgated.
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denex
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@ono & willy
so this has become another tribal thing which will be based on mixed blood or full Niger-Deltan.
We are talking Nigeria, Cameroun and Bakassi some clowns come in with tribal segregation again. Very soon, you will say it is because the Judges and Counsel at the ICJ were not full blooded Niger-Deltans, that's why we lost the ruling.
Chicken-brained imps.
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Kobojunkie
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@ono & willy
so this has become another tribal thing which will be based on mixed blood or full Niger-Deltan.
We are talking Nigeria, Cameroun and Bakassi some clowns come in with tribal segregation again. Very soon, you will say it is because the Judges and Counsel at the ICJ were not full blooded Niger-Deltans, that's why we lost the ruling.
Chicken-brained imps.
LMAO!!!!
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ono (m)
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@ono & willy
so this has become another tribal thing which will be based on mixed blood or full Niger-Deltan.
We are talking Nigeria, Cameroun and Bakassi some clowns come in with tribal segregation again. Very soon, you will say it is because the Judges and Counsel at the ICJ were not full blooded Niger-Deltans, that's why we lost the ruling.
Chicken-brained imps.
What's this thingy with tribal sentiments? See, you'd better live with the fact that your tribe and people come first in all things, especially when the chips are down. To deny your root is to deny the whole essence of your being on planet earth. One braindead Afam won't let me be because I posted something about his people on the Igbo civil war. You need to see his claws and all stretched to the end to attack me at the slightest opportunity. Even in Iraq and Turkey, the Kurds are mapping out strategies to carve independent states for themselves. All other people the world over identify with their tribes and root and you're here claiming to be independent or something Nigeria. I no envy you at all. And I won't call you some silly names here, OK. Like I said in my last entry, the Bakassi people are willing and ready to form a nation of their own. But do you think Cameroon and Nigeria would allow them? It's too late to start analysing the ICJ ruling. I'll agree with someone who said the Bakassi people should negotiate their new status in Cameroon and if they cannot stay with that country, they should progress with their plans of forming a new nation. . . . . after all this is done almost everywhere.
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denex
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So let them do just that and leave us alone. Let them stop killing Camerounians in the Name of Nigeria. It has been proven round the world that Bakassi is not part of Nigeria. If they want to become part of Nigeria, then they should first secede from Cameroun, after that, they can come and by the form to register as a potential future part of Nigeria. The form costs just $2billion. Then after that, they must swear an affidavit that they will never engage in any terrorist activity or form any separatist group.
By the way, screening will take another 10 years.
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jujukemist (m)
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tribal bumkoms! nigerians can't cure themselves from theis virulent attack, what a shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ono (m)
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So let them do just that and leave us alone. Let them stop killing Camerounians in the Name of Nigeria. It has been proven round the world that Bakassi is not part of Nigeria. If they want to become part of Nigeria, then they should first secede from Cameroun, after that, they can come and by the form to register as a potential future part of Nigeria. The form costs just $2billion. Then after that, they must swear an affidavit that they will never engage in any terrorist activity or form any separatist group.
By the way, screening will take another 10 years.
Who the hell is us? Anyway, I'm watching as events unfolds over there. And do you think the Bakassi people will win their freedom only to want to come and join a leprous Nigeria? Think again man, no one would like to come and join one God-forsaken country like Nigeria with all the evils bedevilling the place.
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nigeria1
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The senate is just playing with people. What can they do, Nothing , the decision have been taken and it is final. Just look at the map of bakassi and ask yourself if really bakassi is part of nIgeria, From the map bakassi is more part of cameroon than Nigeria, Bakassi have never been part of Nigeria, Nigerian immigrated there, Check your fact, So since we nigerian immgrated to USA, and other countries should this other countries be part of NIgeria.
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Baby love (f)
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nigeria 1,
you have an off line way of thinking, may God forgive uuuuuuuuuuuuuu!.
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davidif (m)
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Are you serious??? Just hand it to them and let's focus on fixing our country and taking care of our citizens, with all the oil we have, what have we done with it? It would be ludicrious if we went to war over something like this, white people watch all the wars in Africa and laught at us calling us savages that we can't solve disputes. War is simply not worth it, why not spend this money on free education (gbogbo aye ti lo, awa sin wo se n le) and free healthcare.
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babasin (m)
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DESPITE the August 28, 2008 final pull-out date, Camerounian soldiers may have given Nigerians living in Ekpot Abia of Atabong East in Bakassi Peninsula up till today to vacate the territory.
Narrating their ordeal to The Guardian in Ibibio language in Abana, one of the fishermen, Mr Etim Udo Inyang said: "On Wednesday (December 12), some Cameroun soldiers who have occupied this place since our (Nigerian) soldiers left last year, came to us and said we must leave on or before December 15, otherwise there will be problem."
"For fear of being maltreated and my fishing instrument seized from me, I have left Atabong to stay in Abana (headquarters) of Bakassi. I don't know what will happen next," Inyang added. Chairman of Bakassi Council, Chief Emmanuel Etene, confirmed the incident. He said: " Reports reaching us from our people at Ekpot Abia, that is, Atabong East in Bakassi, is that on Wednesday December 12, the Camerounian soldiers there gave Nigerians living there until December 15 (today) to leave the territory otherwise they will face the consequences. ordinary nigerian people are the one suffering. will same US/UK allow its ordinary people suffer? Because of one old woman they fle to Sudan. well right on our soil, our people still suffers. what a shameful country
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babasin (m)
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He said: " Reports reaching us from our people at Ekpot Abia, that is, Atabong East in Bakassi, is that on Wednesday December 12, the Camerounian soldiers there gave Nigerians living there until December 15 (today) to leave the territory otherwise they will face the consequences. where is yaradua now to save these people?? is this how to protect your people when he sworn on May 29th? but he very fast to accept 'green tea' agrement while these people have 'red tea' by the time the camerounian deals with them.
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babasin (m)
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It is established in international law that where a treaty is subject to ratification, acceptance or approval, it will not be enforceable against a party until it is formally ratified (North Sea Continental Shelf Cases (1969) I.C.J. Rep. p3). And in Jurisdiction of the International Commission of the River Oder (1929) P.C.I.J Ser. A, Nos. 20, 23, it was decided that no treaty is binding until after its ratification, even if that is not expressly stipulated in the treaty itself. --> In view of the provisions of sections 3 and 12 of the 1999 Constitution, a mere letter from former President Olusegun Obasanjo to the Senate and others seeking ratification of the Green Tree Agreement cannot amount to ratification. Accordingly, we look askance at President Umaru Musa Yar'Adua's call on the National Assembly to ratify the Green Tree Agreement at all costs because, according to him, "Nigeria has no choice." We appreciate that the ICJ had, in 2002, given a definitive ruling on Bakassi and other areas, which ruling is final and binding on Nigeria, but at least we must, in exercise of our sovereignty, tread on the path of due process in ceding the affected areas to Cameroon. well written, crystal clear from Guardian. http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/editorial_opinion/article01//indexn2_html?pdate=181207&ptitle=Bakassi:%20The%20Government%20and%20the%20National%20Assembly
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Omolulu (m)
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that's a very good decision, this senate has been quite impressive, why should we cede our territory to the camrounian state? would they have acted likewise if they were in our own shoes? would the western powers carry out such a move in such a situation?? the world is full of hypocrites:American, camerounian,french,British, and not surprisingly Nigerian Hypocrites( in the likes of our Baba at ota). Our territory is our property, not that of any other nation, why did it take so long for the icj to realize that bakaasi belonged to cameroun?(some quaters have it anyway that the icj's decision wwas influenced by france and her agents).But for the idiots we've always had in Nigeria who love to act the big brother, we should be talking of how to deploy troops to protect our citizens within the territory.I just hope Yar'adua is courageous enough to know when to fight these Demons: internal and external, and when to stop.
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na2day? (m)
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please can someone give me an update on this situation
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