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doyin13 (m)
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We claim it thesame way Americans have claimed Carlifornia and Texas.  |
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Kobojunkie
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Well, Does this mean that Cameroun is no longer going to fight for the land or something. All I know is before the agreement during ObJ's time, it was war down that way. After the incident where 20 camerounians were killed only a couple of weeks ago, we now have this?? WOW, wonderful timing we have over there !!!
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I-man (m)
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I guess Cameroun will just fold their hands and allow us to take back what the world regards as theirs.All those war mongers should be ready to volunteer to fight the Camerounians and the French.
@Doyin13
You have to give up those dodgy Essex girls you have been poking and report to the war front in case war arises.
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doyin13 (m)
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@I-man Its in the blood. My papa name na Samanja na. . .  And anyway it will provide our military with a challenge. They will have to justify the difficulties they have put us through all these years  |
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EmekaNaija (m)
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Many people in this forum are either too young or do not know the issues at stake in Bakassi.
First of all, no one should be scared about the prospects of war. Do you guys think the Senate would make such resolution without the support of the Bakassi citizens? Do you guys think the 20 Cameronian soldiers killed was a mere coincidence? I do not think so. The Bakassians are sending out signals of where theor loyalty lies. As a truely responsible nation, we should never abandon our own.
When Bush went agaisnt International law, did anything happen? The issue is that every country has a right to defend its soverienty, and that is the reason we have the military. The Nigerian military is not a peace-keeping organization. It is not meant for the current roles its being used in securing internal peace (that's the job of the police). It is meant to protect from external aggression.
Some warped minded individuals here are already cooking up conspirancy theories that a war would help MASSOB and MEND acquire weapons forgetting that MASSOB remains a non-violent organization. On the other hand, MEND has access to any weapons they need, war or no war.
Florence Ita Giwa is from Bakassi, and she remains an adviser in the Presidency. Bakassi and the entire Cross River South constituency have a Senator (Ene Henshaw) in the Nigerian Senate. Bakassi has a member in the house of reps (Essien Agi), so how could correct headed individuals claim Bakassi is not in Nigeria?
No matter the agreement of Nigeria with the ICJ, the ruling must be reviewed because it did not consider the star witness in the case: the Bakassi people.
I only hope Yaradua would be man enough to stand behind our Senators. In my opinion, all Nigerians and the press should praise our Senators who seems to be doing an honorable thing with the vexed Bakassi issue. Obasanjo never had time to tackle the Bakassi problem because he was busy devising dubious means for looting our treasury.
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goodboybad (m)
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Personally, I support the senate. The people of Bakassi are Nigerians, and why should some old white men at the Hague tell us to abandon nur people and we agree as though we cannot think for ourselves. Do you think the Americans are stupid when they don't recognise the jurisdiction of the Hague?
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Seun (m)
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First of all, no one should be scared about the prospects of war. Yeah, war is fun. All the psychopaths in the house say aye! Death, rape, looting!! Common Niger Delta militants we can't control them, and we want to go into a war. |
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Teaman (m)
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If Nigeria cannot protect Bakassi, they you guys should wake-up one day to find Lagos is now Benin Republic and Kwara belongs to Niger replublic, Babasin
@Babasin I guess you were joking and know what you posted. If you were not joking, then let me make a very important correction: Kwara is very far, and I mean, very far from Niger Rep. I am sure, Kwara is about 12hours or so by road from Sokoto, Katsina or Jigawa that share the same border as Niger Rep. I feel inclined to reply because I am from Kwara State, which is north-central (more of south though) and I think a lot of Nigerians are of the premonition that all the "K" states i.e Kwara, Kano, Katsina, Kebbi , are northern states. Well, Kwara is the only exception. Kwara is predominantly a yoruba state, with some fulani history attached to it ( I suggest you do some research on this! To expand your knowledge). I think it is the duty of any adult nigerian, whether educated or less educated, to know the simple geography ( at least states, their locations and capitals) of their only country. Why it was Kwara you chose to make your comparison, I don't know, but I know, it is impossible for Kwara to be ceded to Niger Rep. It is possible it could be ceded to Niger state though (in those days of IBB , ). I 'm sure you know the difference between Niger Republic and Niger State, however! Cheers  |
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goodboybad (m)
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@ Emeka,
Word!
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adusol (m)
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Many people in this forum are either too young or do not know the issues at stake in Bakassi.
First of all, no one should be scared about the prospects of war. Do you guys think the Senate would make such resolution without the support of the Bakassi citizens? Do you guys think the 20 Cameronian soldiers killed was a mere coincidence? I do not think so. The Bakassians are sending out signals of where theor loyalty lies. As a truely responsible nation, we should never abandon our own.
When Bush went agaisnt International law, did anything happen? The issue is that every country has a right to defend its soverienty, and that is the reason we have the military. The Nigerian military is not a peace-keeping organization. It is not meant for the current roles its being used in securing internal peace (that's the job of the police). It is meant to protect from external aggression.
Some warped minded individuals here are already cooking up conspirancy theories that a war would help MASSOB and MEND acquire weapons forgetting that MASSOB remains a non-violent organization. On the other hand, MEND has access to any weapons they need, war or no war.
Florence Ita Giwa is from Bakassi, and she remains an adviser in the Presidency. Bakassi and the entire Cross River South constituency have a Senator (Ene Henshaw) in the Nigerian Senate. Bakassi has a member in the house of reps (Essien Agi), so how could correct headed individuals claim Bakassi is not in Nigeria?
No matter the agreement of Nigeria with the ICJ, the ruling must be reviewed because it did not consider the star witness in the case: the Bakassi people.
I only hope Yaradua would be man enough to stand behind our Senators. In my opinion, all Nigerians and the press should praise our Senators who seems to be doing an honorable thing with the vexed Bakassi issue. Obasanjo never had time to tackle the Bakassi problem because he was busy devising dubious means for looting our treasury
well said
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babasin (m)
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No, because Nigeria agreed to be bound by the ruling of the ICJ. Nigerians did not. OBJ was acting alone. simple! He should show us where 'bakasi' people agreed with him that he should cede their place to Cameroun. |
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McKren (m)
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This is not about war or no war
LET THE BAKASI PEOPLE DECIDE their own Nationality
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Akolawole (m)
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How on earth could Senate do that! Bakassi is in Cameroon. Simple arithmetic!
Of course those "former Nigerians" can still retain Nigerian citizenship. Why are we greedy about those oil there? Of what gain is our fountain of oil to an average Nigerian?  |
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debosky (m)
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Nigerians did not. OBJ was acting alone. simple!
He should show us where 'bakasi' people agreed with him that he should cede their place to Cameroun.
Just as long as you can 'show us' where the bakassi people agreed to be in Nigeria in the first place  The issue was one of wrong delineation of borders, it was contested and won in the courts. Senators have serious issues on their hands, let them face those. Making motions that are unenforceable is just a waste of time. Border issues between countries are not decided through the senate, it is an international issue presided over by the ICJ, does the Senate require the Supreme Court judgments to be passed through it before being implemented? The 'ceding' was not a unilateral move, it was based on a judgment in a court of law. In the eyes of the law, those people were technically never part of Nigeria, they have now been 'returned' to their rightful country. |
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naijaking1
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Legistilatively, the Senate can pass any bill they want, it remains simply that a bill.
For it to become law, the house of rep. has to pass same bill, and then the president has to sign the bill to make it law.
I believe we are still at the primary stage of this bill. Or are we talking about a different legistilative process here?
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EmekaNaija (m)
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Yeah, war is fun. All the psychopaths in the house say aye! Death, rape, looting!!
Common Niger Delta militants we can't control them, and we want to go into a war. No one says yes to war. I personally do not see war if Cameroon can be objective and demand the Bakassians where ther loyalty lies: Nigeria or Cameroon. I do not even see Cameroon having the guts to go to a full fledged war with Nigeria. The problems in the 90's at Bakassi was due to French support which is not even a serious nation. According to Atiku, peace can only be achieved when there is justice and fairness. The Bakassi people must be allowed to choose their own destiny. And what happens if they insist on self determination when all else fails. Guys lets be objective and put ourselves in these people's shoes. Who says Nigeria cannot control the Niger Deltan militants? Who even says they are militants? They are simply seeking their share of the National cake. There is no courage or moral strenght to deal with the issues in the Niger Delta because of the people involved. To know if they can be controlled or not, MEND should go and blow up 3rd mainland bridge as they claimed and see where power lies in Nigeria. |
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Mamajama (m)
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This decision is stupidity at the highest level. where were the senators last year when the decision was meet? were they on recess?
was the decision back then carried out by the president? why wasn't the objection raised then?
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Harlex (m)
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then if the presidency delays in signing the bill into law, the 1999 constitution of the federal republic says that a bill sent to the presidency must within 3 month be sign by the president, and if not, then the senate has the right to withdraw the bill and passed it to law without it going through the presidency. Check your constitution.
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debosky (m)
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The senators are being stupid - trying to appear populist when dire issues of national development are left unattended
why just now? After how many months of the judgment being implemented? Why must the Camerounians ask the Bakassi people where they want to be? In Nigeria itself have you asked the MASSOB or OPC people whether they want to be in Nigeria or not?
What of the Yoruba people from Togo to Benin? Why aren't they in Nigeria or those parts of Nigeria part of Togo and Benin?
Or the Fulanis in Niger wanting to be Nigerians? Why should the Camerounians be 'objective'? Did anyone in Nigeria as it currently is 'choose' to be part of the contraption the British established?
There is no need to get emotional, if they decide on self determination, that is Cameroun's internal problem to deal with. If Igbos, Yorubas and Ijaws are not given the so called 'right to self determination', why should we now be more concerned about the Bakassi people? Let them stay on their peninsula and enjoy themselves, I'm sure they can negotiate a better share of the oil resources there than would be obtained if they remained in Nigeria.
No 'law' has been passed, it is a motion declaring an action as illegal. It has no binding ability on Yar'adua or anyone else. The Senate did not legislate Bakassi into Nigeria, so in the same manner they cannot be the ones to decide of they stay a part of Nigeria or not
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Harlex (m)
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i think the senators are taking thr right step on the issue of bakassi. that was thesame question i asked when obasanjo was claiming to be one yeye big brother in africa. nigeria as a country has nigerians who reside on that land, or are they going to seeded to osun state where i come from, the people should be given the right for fair hearing, at least they deserve that, we all should praise our senators for their courage to move such a motion.
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McKren (m)
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ICJ did not legislate Bakasi to Nigeria either and can not relegislate it to cameroun
People's origin are not determined by court ruling, even the Bostwana highest court could not grant their country government their wish of relocating the Bush men of Bostwana.
Reason: The Bostwana Bush people have a right to dwell in their ancestral home if they so please
Why should a court like ICJ do such.
This is not about being emotional, Nigeria has become irresponsible to its citizens for too long.
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buluti (m)
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The Senate is just making noise (perhaps a distraction from their own probe, i don't know just speculating).
The ICJ has ruled and the decision is binding. Period. We went to the ICJ by consent no one forced us.
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Akolawole (m)
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A battered image in the comity of nations years ago which we are still polishing might just go back to the bottomless dust bin. |
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kaelo (m)
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hmmm, really smart Yaradua, i'm supposing u want an oscar for your effoerts, you and your fish like senae committee, all naija is asking for is trouble and this won' go down well, firstly that obj move was one of goodwill, and this dumbass pres of ours now wants to screw things up, is this his way of making up for the throwing out of soludos redecimalisation dream,what a fool, well goodluck naija, u must
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kaelo (m)
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war, u folks don't know shit, u think this is yankee where Bush could do and get away with anything he wanted, omo you fools will be watchn mtvbase and browsin naira land whie some innocens will be slain for what u dumbasses call a good decision, sad
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BlackMamba (m)
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I hope we build a strong international alliance before embarking on this cowboy move. France obviously will defend Cameroon, and try to push for sanctions and possibly military intervention. But the joker is that international players are very sceptic of each others intentions. Nigeria can easily draw the US., China or Russia to our side by throwing our oil clout around. Deals can easily be made with the super powers if you're talking oil. Lets give this a shot, if we have smart bureaucrats to prosecute the plan.
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nwando
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Biko let Cameroun keep Bakassi. The place is too close to Igboland for us to be dabbling on what may cause my people great harm. They can have the oil rich bakassi. We have dashed it to them Even if it's a mistake,let it be we don't want bakassi We have oil in various areas on the SS and SE. I don talk my own |
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nwando
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The senators are being stupid - trying to appear populist when dire issues of national development are left unattended
why just now? After how many months of the judgment being implemented? Why must the Camerounians ask the Bakassi people where they want to be? In Nigeria itself have you asked the MASSOB or OPC people whether they want to be in Nigeria or not?
What of the Yoruba people from Togo to Benin? Why aren't they in Nigeria or those parts of Nigeria part of Togo and Benin?
Or the Fulanis in Niger wanting to be Nigerians? Why should the Camerounians be 'objective'? Did anyone in Nigeria as it currently is 'choose' to be part of the contraption the British established?
There is no need to get emotional, if they decide on self determination, that is Cameroun's internal problem to deal with. If Igbos, Yorubas and Ijaws are not given the so called 'right to self determination', why should we now be more concerned about the Bakassi people? Let them stay on their peninsula and enjoy themselves, I'm sure they can negotiate a better share of the oil resources there than would be obtained if they remained in Nigeria.
No 'law' has been passed, it is a motion declaring an action as illegal. It has no binding ability on Yar'adua or anyone else. The Senate did not legislate Bakassi into Nigeria, so in the same manner they cannot be the ones to decide of they stay a part of Nigeria or not
don't mind them The last time a group of people wanted to be their own country in Nigeria,did they let them. we don't want bakassi biko. when katakata will erupt it will be in my doormot baby NO! |
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Kobojunkie
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I hope we build a strong international alliance before embarking on this cowboy move. France obviously will defend Cameroon, and try to push for sanctions and possibly military intervention. But the joker is that international players are very sceptic of each others intentions. Nigeria can easily draw the US., China or Russia to our side by throwing our oil clout around. Deals can easily be made with the super powers if you're talking oil. Lets give this a shot, if we have smart bureaucrats to prosecute the plan.
You really think the INTERNATIONALS will be in on this one THIS TIME?? This situation has been going on for decades now and they looked away mostly and you believe now they will suddenly care what africa will do with it's own?? Please, let us focus. All this attention seeking is not helping. Look at the numbers of africans killed off each year like rats, all over the continent and you might see that the internationals really have come to accept that africans are just ants who enjoy killing off each other and they just stand in the distance and allow us. Millions are killed each year in africa in WAR, TrIBAL meaningless wars over and over and over. That is why I find it disgusting when africa points an accusing finger at international nations. If another war breaks out in that zone, God rest the soul of those who will suffer. If Not, ONLY God can save us. |
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Big B1 (m)
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Bakassi was given away by OBJ, not Nigerians.
I think OBJ made this move for political reason; ( it is never a bad idea to develop a friendly relationship with your neighbor just in case the rainy season becomes unbearable, Saddam paid heavily towards the end for not following this protocol). I will get into it later when I'm in the mood.
I support reclaiming it back!
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babasin (m)
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Bakassi was given away by OBJ, not Nigerians. exactly and OBJ has no such power. He was just a foolish dictator. If we don't get this back quickly, more will follow. You're surrounded by countries who are supported by France. They will be all over taken all chunks of Nigeria away. It is time to show why we are giant of africa. It is time for our army to be at its finest. If Britain can go 2000km fighting for falkland, I see why we can't go 10km to reclaim what is ours. |
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Well, I guess the Nigerian people, after decades of squabbles still want more fighting in that region. WOW, !! Na wa ooo
