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wendymanda
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Let them kill her, and if England decides to invade like America they will cry what the west has done. Myself too dey think those mongrels are hungry. Now we know the feed on Human blood. At school here we are raising money for Sudan. May God strike them down. I hate saying this about black people but am not sure if those things are people or blood thirsty savages.
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nwando
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if they do anything to her I will give out mohammed bears complete with beard and turban for free in her honor  |
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nwando
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I hope to God they don't be-head the teddy! let them try it and the spirit of a headless teddy would torment them day and night |
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davidylan (m)
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Let them kill her, and if England decides to invade like America they will cry what the west has done. Myself too dey think those mongrels are hungry. Now we know the feed on Human blood. At school here we are raising money for Sudan. May God strike them down. I hate saying this about black people but am not sure if those things are people or blood thirsty savages.
England will never risk another invasion, we are in a situation where islam is now holding the world hostage. Everyone is afraid of reprisal terrorist attacks if they invade another muslim nation. Political correctness is to blame, these same people who have stolen christmas from us are now bending over backwards to accomodate these demons. It is not about skin color, it is about an ideology of death and violence. you can paint them white and give them arabic clothes and it will still be the same blood curdling response to "insulting" islam. |
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davidylan (m)
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- Pictures of Gillian, 54, were burned as hardline clerics in pick-up trucks chanted through loudhailers: “No one lives who insults the prophet.”
- Sword-waving Yassin Mubarak raged: “What she did requires her life to be taken.” Hardline cleric Abdul-Jalil Nazeer al-Karouri declared: “Imprisoning this lady does not satisfy the thirst of Muslims in Sudan.”
These people can teach us a thing or two about "peace". Salaam!
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CHIMSKY (m)
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IT REALLY IS SAD AND UNFORTUNATE THAT A REACTION SO BIG COULD COME FROM AN INCIDENT SO SMALL.
1.THE TEACHER DID NOT NAME THE TEDDY .
2.THE STUDENTS DID .AND THEY NAMED IT MOHAMMED.THEY DIDNT SAY THE TEDDY'S NAME WAS MOHAMMED SULLALAHU-ALLAIHU -WASALLAM(PEACE BE UNTO THE HOLY PROPHET'S NAME)
3.THIS METHOD ABOVE IS THE STANDARD WAY TO SEPARATE THE UNCOUNTABLE NUMBER OF MEN IN THE MOSLEM WORLD WHO BEAR THIS NAME, FROM THE HOLY PROPHET.
4.IF ALL OF THE ABOVE IS CORRECT,THEN WHY ALL THE FUSS!!!?
5.SUMMARY:WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO CREATE DISORDER,THEY CAN GO TO ANY LENGTHS.REMEMBER OUR OWN MISS WORLD RIOTS IN ABUJA OR THE VIOLENCE IN KANO.BESIDES ,WHEN THE JOS RIOTS HAPPENED IN 2002,THERE WAS NO NEED FOR A REASON.JUST PLAIN VENGEANCE.
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mdsocks (m)
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The sudanese are not correct on this issue. What i have pointed out, Clearly here is "INTENTION" i know for sure that the Picture produced in Denmark was to insult the Prophet and that i will not accept. The british woman was not in any way trying to insult the prophet and this i tottally reject any form of purnishment meted out to her,  I think the case should be closed now !!! |
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mukina2 (f)
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Ignorance! thats what is killing Islam  The clerics in Sudan would know that its unacceptable in sharia but they wont say a word . |
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mdsocks (m)
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Ignorance! thats what is killing Islam The clerics in Sudan would know that its unacceptable in sharia but they wont say a word . partly, They read the Holy Quran, but will not take time to understand what it says. |
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mukina2 (f)
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partly,
They read the Holy Quran, but will not take time to understand what it says.
Nay! Muctarr  They are all implementing the sharia wrongly their are loads of "Muslim" useless ones called Mohamad the fact that it was not the Lady's fault . Must this people do everything for attention . |
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FBS
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I wonder where them alaji olobowale and his jihadists are, why are they suddenly silent about how peaceful islam is? another post As a committed Muslim who would always hope to uphold the dignity of Prophet Muhammad, I am outraged by the ignorance of the Sudanese authorities. The name Muhammad is given to others and is not exclusive to the Prophet, therefore why should they think the teacher intended the toy to be an effigy? While it is not befitting to give an animal this beautiful name, any half-witted person can see that this was done with good intention. The idea of hardline rules and punishments for such trivial issues is in no way a reflection of the true Islamic teaching and I expected better from Sudan. I believe it makes a mockery of the traditionally upright and just Islamic law system. I hope the school teacher will be freed at once and apologised to.
Siddiq Bland, Leicester, UK , It seems to me that these people are the most confused homo sapiens on earth. Someone has to stop this!!!, I beg nwando, can you call osama to intervene. |
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nuru (m)
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In this case that is given the much publicity, the clerics should have used the opportunity to teach her Islam. But then, thousands of such cases are treated daily in the Prophetic way ( always for peace) without its mention by the western media. Nobody would have heard of this case had she been silently lectured and told to go home. I think the Lady went too far as a teacher of seven year olds who could not apply simple discretion in adopting the suggestion from a toddler. She should go back to a teacher training school.
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mukina2 (f)
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In this case that is given the much publicity, the clerics should have used the opportunity to teach her Islam. But then, thousands of such cases are treated daily in the Prophetic way ( always for peace) without its mention by the western media. Nobody would have heard of this case had she been silently lectured and told to go home. I think the Lady went too far as a teacher of seven year olds who could not apply simple discretion in adopting the suggestion from a toddler. She should go back to a teacher training school.
Nuru salaam  The lady have been in the country for only 12 weeks. and its part of the school activities for the kids to name the Teddy bear and be taking it home, come back to school and tel lthe teacher and the class what they did with the teddy . The lady is not at fault here NO. she didnt name the bear, it was from the kids . remember we were all taught to love the prophet of Allah . that was what the kids did . The lady is in no way wrong . Instead of them to take this whole ridiculous thing that far |
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JeSoul (f)
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I have been following this post and the attempts made to justify this atrocity have failed miserably! Nevertheless the comedy provided by some posters has been priceless Now this is the same Sudan countless women and children have been murdered, the same Sudan with Genocide, the same Sudan where legions are starving to death, the same Sudan where poverty and disease is ravaging, NONE of the citizens and clerics saw it fit to take to the streets and protest these inhumane circumstances, none thot it worthwhile to clamor for change and a better future for their children, but the minute mohamad is "disrespected" they all come out arms flying and protesting and burning- WHAT NONSENSE Can't they see how perverse this is? talk about having ur priorities completely out of wack! I will not give 1 cent or 1 kobo to all those "Rock for Darfur" "Peace for Sudan" banners on websites and all that hollywood activism - these people are CLEARLY NOT WORTH IT. Let allah they so vehemently fight for provide them aid. The sudanese are not correct on this issue. What i have pointed out, Clearly here is "INTENTION" i know for sure that the Picture produced in Denmark was to insult the Prophet and that i will not accept.The british woman was not in any way trying to insult the prophet and this i tottally reject any form of purnishment meted out to her, I think the case should be closed now !!! Christians, buddhists, taoists, atheists are made fun of daily, Jesus is basically the punchline of every other joke, yet Christians take it, look the other way and move on. You muslims must learn to do the same, you are NOT special and don't deserve any special treatment! |
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mdsocks (m)
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JeSoul Do you seem to read my post atall, or you just like quoting people for fun ? you are NOT special and don't deserve any special treatment! and where in the post did i say muslims were special !!  |
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JeSoul (f)
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mdsocks, i know for sure that the Picture produced in Denmark was to insult the Prophet and that i will not accept what did you mean by you would not "accept" it? you have no choice but to accept it. Other people are not subject or required to obey or show reverence for your religion or prophet - anyone can make fun of or "disrespect" whomever or whatever they want (as long as they don't break the laws of their land) - freedom of speech, and last time I checked Denmark is NOT an islamic state. |
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PurestBoy (m)
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I still dey here dey wonder wetin the woman dey find for Sudan. Sudan of all countries
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olabowale (m)
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@JeSoul: Which is greater, the law of the land or the law of God?
Just because you do not subscribe to a belief, does not give you
the liberty to abuse its personality.
Am not a christian, yet i will not abuse Paul. Yet Paul was not even a
prophet. Of course, there is no Muslim, who can abuse Jesus, son of
Mary. We only disagree with the way the Christians paint him. But he
belongs to Islam as well.
The non Muslims' abuse of our prophet, is like yelling Fire in a crowded Theater!
Some people will be patient, but unfortunately, alot will be agitted and
emotional, hence react terribly.
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olabowale (m)
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@Chimsky: May God keep you well. You are a very intelligent man. I respect your
opinion, even in the future Iwe may disagree.
The people in Sudan how behaved in the picture above, failed to let the Message of
the Friday sink into their hearts. They behaved as if their is no mistakes to be made
by Humans and it is as if there is no Mercy in their HEARTS.
BUT I AM 100% MUSLIM. Alhamdulillah.
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davidylan (m)
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@JeSoul: Which is greater, the law of the land or the law of God?
This makes no sense. JeSoul asked a relevant question: IS DENMARK A MUSLIM COUNTRY? Why should they be subject to the laws of your "god"? I thought the aim of secularity was the separation of religion and state. If the laws of God were more important in the USA, you hypocrite alhaji would long have been deported neither would you be allowed to pray on any inch of American soil! Just because you do not subscribe to a belief, does not give you
the liberty to abuse its personality.
I only wish muslims would do as they say. How many times did you sit by congratulating Lakpenne as he refered to my God as a cry baby? Another point which has been made to death on these boards is also relevant to mention here again: YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS TO FORCE ME TO RESPECT YOUR BELIEFS! Get it into your thick skulls. Mohammed means NOTHING to me! You want to protect your beliefs, i suggest you all pack your bags and move to Saudi Arabia! Am not a christian, yet i will not abuse Paul. Yet Paul was not even a
prophet.
Dishonesty is a muslim virtue. Paul was an apostle, that Mohammed was too afraid of his message that he refused to include him in his religion of deceit does not denigrate him. Of course, there is no Muslim, who can abuse Jesus, son of
Mary. We only disagree with the way the Christians paint him. But he
belongs to Islam as well.
All these "belongs to islam as well" is nothing but crap. Muslims insult Jesus Christ everyday only to pop up when it suits them crying about how well they respect Him. don't bother disagreeing with how christians paint Him, it is none of your business how i choose to speak about my God. The non Muslims' abuse of our prophet, is like yelling Fire in a crowded Theater!
Some people will be patient, but unfortunately, alot will be agitted and
emotional, hence react terribly.
and you claim to be all about "peace". What a bunch of hypocrites. The people in Sudan how behaved in the picture above, failed to let the Message of
the Friday sink into their hearts. They behaved as if their is no mistakes to be made
by Humans and it is as if there is no Mercy in their HEARTS.
the message of friday was one of death and destruction! That is why anytime after friday prayers in most northern towns of Nigeria is usually the most volatile period. Go back in history, most religious riots in Nigeria began after Friday prayers . . . i'm sure the messages of Friday could not be about loving ur neighbour. |
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FemiATL
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This is very crazy and I am not supprised with the response from everyone on this forum Muslims---Christrians-----davidylans-----nwandos.
Lets not forget
The woman threw caution in the air and let a group of 7 yr old control her class-------she should have not allowed the name Mohammed be selected in the pool of names for the teddy bear-------obviously she did not just land in sudan that same day from "naive" land. She went there to sudan, knowing what the country was all about. This is not just going down the street, by now she should have known how fanatical some Muslims can be.
Some people are asking why Muslims get provoked for any little reason-------why provoke them then. You call your wife or husband ugly or fat and see if he or she will give you an hug and say "thanks for calling me such nice names-------honey"!
Can anyone give me an instance where some Muslims just wake up in the morning and say-----hey nobody has provoked us in weeks, months or years------this is not normal----we need to cause trouble so that so that peope can know that we are still around, just one.
I am not saying i support there actions in sudan, but please nobody can tell me that they are not cautious in there everyday lives on anylevel what so ever.
My advice to all of you who is shouting foul, go to work on monday with a teddy bear or any other stuffed toy------tell everyone that you name the teddy bear your CEOs name and lets see if you will be there in weeks to come.
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Kobojunkie
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This is very crazy and I am not supprised with the response from everyone on this forum Muslims---Christrians-----davidylans-----nwandos.
Lets not forget
The woman threw caution in the air and let a group of 7 yr old control her class-------she should have not allowed the name Muhammad be selected in the pool of names for the teddy bear-------obviously she did not just land in sudan that same day from "naive" land. She went there to sudan, knowing what the country was all about. This is not just going down the street, by now she should have known how fanatical some Muslims can be.
Some people are asking why Muslims get provoked for any little reason-------why provoke them then. You call your wife or husband ugly or fat and see if he or she will give you an hug and say "thanks for calling me such nice names-------honey"!
Can anyone give me an instance where some Muslims just wake up in the morning and say-----hey nobody has provoked us in weeks, months or years------this is not normal----we need to cause trouble so that so that peope can know that we are still around, just one.
I am not saying i support there actions in sudan, but please nobody can tell me that they are not cautious in there everyday lives on anylevel what so ever.
My advice to all of you who is shouting foul, go to work on monday with a teddy bear or any other stuffed toy------tell everyone that you name the teddy bear your CEOs name and lets see if you will be there in weeks to come.
Many of those in here shouting foul are also muslims. Go to the BBC blog http://worldhaveyoursay.wordpress.com/2007/11/27/does-calling-a-teddy-mohammad-deserve-pubishment/ and read the posts. Many of those replies are from muslims as well. The Woman did not know that calling a teddy bear muhammed was blasphemous. Neither did she know that even if it was being named after one of the boys in the class who wanted the teddy bear named after him, it was still against the law. |
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FemiATL
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Yes i know that some Muslims are against the issues in sudan. I am very much against it!
But what I meant was that we should all be cautious of what we say or do. I am still confused that the woman did not know it will cause a stir in a predominatly Muslim country/community that using the name Muhammed for fun is okay. Before she travelled to sudan she must have studied the culture, religion, etc. Afterall she is a teacher.
Well I give her the benefit of the doubt.
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idupaul
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My advice to all of you who is shouting foul, go to work on monday with a teddy bear or any other stuffed toy------tell everyone that you name the teddy bear your CEOs name and lets see if you will be there in weeks to come. What r u saying, Is The great prophet now comparable to a CEO, this is gross HARAM andd you deserve to die for this, @femiatl Chap if you made the above comment in KHARTOUM , this is the Xact response you will get and we will have to start another thread in nairaland to discuss it, DO U CALL THE ABOVE RESPONSE TOLERANCE, hmmm |
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Kobojunkie
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Yes i know that some Muslims are against the issues in sudan. I am very much against it!
But what I meant was that we should all be cautious of what we say or do. I am still confused that the woman did not know it will cause a stir in a predominatly Muslim country/community that using the name Muhammed for fun is okay. Before she travelled to sudan she must have studied the culture, religion, etc. Afterall she is a teacher.
Well I give her the benefit of the doubt.
What makes you think that every one KNOWS that calling a teddy bear muhammed, after a child who wants it that way since his own name is muhammed, is blasphemy?? A lady who called in on the BBC who happened to be a muslim said it herself that she has never heard such nonsense. She even went ahead and said that her child has barbie dolls named Mariam and Fatima respectively. If she a muslim does not even know that name a teddy bear after a kid is blasphemy, how do you expect the lady to know this?? Heck, poll muslims and many of them will equally tell you, they had no idea it was blasphemous in any way @FEMIATL. Read the BBC posts and you will see that many of the muslims who posted called the claims RIDICULOUS! |
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JeSoul (f)
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@JeSoul: Which is greater, the law of the land or the law of God?
Just because you do not subscribe to a belief, does not give you
the liberty to abuse its personality.
Am not a christian, yet i will not abuse Paul. Yet Paul was not even a
prophet. Of course, there is no Muslim, who can abuse Jesus, son of
Mary. We only disagree with the way the Christians paint him. But he
belongs to Islam as well.
The non Muslims' abuse of our prophet, is like yelling Fire in a crowded Theater!
Some people will be patient, but unfortunately, alot will be agitted and
emotional, hence react terribly.
see Davidylan's excellent response to all you said here, there's no need to be repetitive, I will add though the answer to ur question is I CAN ABUSE, DISRESPECT, MAKE FUN and DEGRADE whatever religion I want. This is America - you should know that. and other non-islamic states DO NOT have to show "respect" for ur religion. I say again in case you didn't get it, other people are not required to obey or show reverence for your religion or prophet, PERIOD. and don't even try to play the "i don't disrespect your religion" card the mere fact muslims disagree with the bible and say Jesus is not almighty and hence call God a liar is disrespectful to me. But best believe, I won't be blowing up any mosques or burning any effigies - because it is ur perogative. |
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FemiATL
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What makes you think that every one KNOWS that calling a teddy bear muhammed, after a child who wants it that way since his own name is muhammed, is blasphemy?? A lady who called in on the BBC who happened to be a muslim said it herself that she has never heard such nonsense. She even went ahead and said that her child has barbie dolls named Mariam and Fatima respectively. If she a muslim does not even know that name a teddy bear after a kid is blasphemy, how do you expect the lady to know this?? Heck, poll muslims and many of them will equally tell you, they had no idea it was blasphemous in any way @FEMIATL. Read the BBC posts and you will see that many of the muslims who posted called the claims RIDICULOUS! That is exactly what I am saying! THE LEVEL AT WHICH PEOPLE REACT TO ISSUES-----PERIOD. That’s what I am pointing out. I am not saying it is not ridiculous---all I am saying is "there are some things that we should just be cautious about in our surrounding". The lady in "London" not "Sudan" said she did not know it was blasphemous-------fine-----same here-----I do not count it as a serious issue but some other people do. If the teacher in Sudan said she did not know it will cause trouble. Fine, now she does. If she said the kids named the bear Muhammed after the kid in the class------I am still trying to see the rationale behind it since------most kids their age------ if asked to give a name to a pet or some thing will always go for a name other than theirs. Anyway-----hmmm! What r u saying, Is The great prophet now comparable to a CEO, this is gross HARAM andd you deserve to die for this,
@femiatl
Chap if you made the above comment in KHARTOUM , this is the Xact response you will get and we will have to start another thread in nairaland to discuss it, DO You CALL THE ABOVE RESPONSE TOLERANCE, hmmm
Oga! I hope your are not planning to drive or operate a machine in the next few hrs ------  What am i saying what are you saying.  |
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Kobojunkie
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The parent of the kids confirmed the story about the little boy wanting the teddy bear be named after him. I do have a question here. Are you saying that persons named after muhammed do not have RIGHTS to use their name for whatsoever they choose?? @FEMIATL . I mean if the boy had named his company after himself, would that also have been considered blasphemous??
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FemiATL
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I do not know the details of the story------and frankly I try not to jump into conclusions--------the reaction in Sudan was not necessary--------the leaders and the mob there have issues. If the kid's parents have come out to say the child wanted the name--------that should help calm the tension there.
I agree-----------anybody can say or use the name Muhammed they way they want. I do not consider it as blasphemy--------the name is not reserved.
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davidylan (m)
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When will western governments wake up, smell the coffee and start sending muslims back to their 17th century enclaves? That way we wont have to deal with "prophets", names like mohamad and cartoons.
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buluti (m)
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why am i not surprised at responses from muslims. So femiatl we shld b careful not to upset muslims so there can b peace. My friend in other words u want people to be scared, what happend when davinci code was released. Tells a lot of Jesus he can defend himself doesnt need anyone to stand for him. I advise u, ur allah & mohamed to fight their battles 4 demselves. Any can say whatever he/she wants if u don't like it jump in front of a movin train kill yourself and not innocent people. Nonsense
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Horus (m)
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Was the teddy bear also sentenced to 15 days in prison and deportation?
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