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olabowale (m)
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@Buluti: Even though, I may disagree with the Muslims, in many of there reactions to the several provocations, I clearly disagree with your opinion of the matter. For one, the writer of the Davinci Code is not in anyway a Muslim. If he is not a practicing Christian, he would be however be identified as a Christian.
Have not seen any Muslim, who have caricatured or lampooned Paul or The Pope or The Archbishop of Canterbury; your Christian authority symbols?
Further your suggestion that the Muslims should line up in front of the train, is really a statement of ignorance? Is this the instruction left behind by Paul, the founder of Christianity?
Jesus will suggest a different way. The behavior of the NL Christians is very contrary to Jesus way. It points out very clearly that you are all deviants or truly your religion is the exact projection that you exhibit. Maybe all of you are truly children of your father Beliel, the devil.
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nwando
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@Buluti: Even though, I may disagree with the Muslims, in many of there reactions to the several provocations, I clearly disagree with your opinion of the matter. For one, the writer of the Davinci Code is not in anyway a Muslim. If he is not a practicing Christian, he would be however be identified as a Christian.
Have not seen any Muslim, who have caricatured or lampooned Paul or The Pope or The Archbishop of Canterbury; your Christian authority symbols?
Further your suggestion that the Muslims should line up in front of the train, is really a statement of ignorance? Is this the instruction left behind by Paul, the founder of Christianity?
Jesus will suggest a different way. The behavior of the Nairaland Christians is very contrary to Jesus way. It points out very clearly that you are all deviants or truly your religion is the exact projection that you exhibit. Maybe all of you are truly children of your father Beliel, the devil.
Hmm! looks like someone prayed today facing South (Yenegoa Junction) rather than East (Umuekwensu)  calm down Alhaji,I no fit perform e-CPR 
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Kobojunkie
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@Buluti: Even though, I may disagree with the Muslims, in many of there reactions to the several provocations, I clearly disagree with your opinion of the matter. For one, the writer of the Davinci Code is not in anyway a Muslim. If he is not a practicing Christian, he would be however be identified as a Christian.
Have not seen any Muslim, who have caricatured or lampooned Paul or The Pope or The Archbishop of Canterbury; your Christian authority symbols?
Further your suggestion that the Muslims should line up in front of the train, is really a statement of ignorance? Is this the instruction left behind by Paul, the founder of Christianity?
Jesus will suggest a different way. The behavior of the Nairaland Christians is very contrary to Jesus way. It points out very clearly that you are all deviants or truly your religion is the exact projection that you exhibit. Maybe all of you are truly children of your father Beliel, the devil.
It has really become clear that you read your own meaning into posts. What Buluti is saying is simply that there is no reason why the muslims should react the way they do to such or anything. People will always be free to say what they want to say. Just cause you have a religion, does not mean those who do not subscribe to it must be held to the same laws as your religion imposes on you. He made a clear example with the Dan Brown story but that seemed to completely elude you. So I will explain, No matter what religion a person belongs to, the person is not to be subject to the tenets or laws of another religion. Dan Brown wrote his book based on his belief. Would christians consider most of the contents blasphemous, definitely. Did Christians rise up to get blood?? NO, why ?? cause we do not believe it is our place to fight for God but we do what know to do, reject the lies, and boycott, that is for those who feel moved to do so by their love for God. Would a Christian have been stoned to death if he/she had gone to see the movie?? No, why ?? cause we do not believe that is what God calls us to do. Now, Dan brown's case is one of several you should get to know of. There was the case of an artist who made a statue of Jesus our of chocolate, another artist put a sculpture of Jesus in a bottle of urine. Did you see Christians running up and down the streets burning houses?? No. Even when you see Christians trying to act in such ways, what follows? Denounciation by the vatican and Christians all over the world of such acts. But With the many things that have happened in the islamic communities that has people all in defense mode is that you hardly get the same sort of reaction from the islamic world. It was the western world that called for saudi arabia to stop the nonsense with the woman who was raped in Saudi arabia and the west is the louder voice even in the case of Darfur and the woman in this case. Where is the voice of the rest of the islamic world which should be Louder?? Compare the reaction in each of these cases to the reaction when a cartoonist in denmark put out a cartoon or when the people were busy calling for the woman to be put to death in this case?? Please stop running around the bush and thinking you are even hitting the bush in anyway. You know what is up. Why is the muslim world not reacting as it should IF ISLAM is really a religion of peace??
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olabowale (m)
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@Kokojukie: The same way Buluti is free to express his opinion, without malice, is exactly the same reason i have to express my one, and you yours. Why the complaint?
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Kobojunkie
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@Kokojukie: The same way Buluti is free to express his opinion, without malice, is exactly the same reason i have to express my one, and you yours. Why the complaint?
LMAO!!! Suddenly I am complaining ?? So my asking you simple questions gets you all apprehensive? No need to beat about the bush with you. My Questions are clear, are you bold enough to provide straight forward answers?? Or are you going to blow trumpet and claim I am attacking you and your belief next ?? @Olabowale
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nwando
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You ain't seen nothing yet.
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nwando
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@Kokojukie: The same way Buluti is free to express his opinion, without malice, is exactly the same reason i have to express my one, and you yours. Why the complaint?
I hope you don't mind when others express theirs by way of sayYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY cartoons?
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Kobojunkie
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I hope you don't mind when others express theirs by way of sayYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY cartoons?
good point !!! Why was the Cartoonist in Denmark not accorded the same right you CLAIM everyone has ?? @Olabowale
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davidylan (m)
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@Kokojukie: The same way Buluti is free to express his opinion, without malice, is exactly the same reason i have to express my one, and you yours. Why the complaint?
thank you alhaji. i'm off to the store to get me a goat. I shall name him mohammed!
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nwando
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Now I wish to express myself. Just an expression.
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olabowale (m)
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Kokojunkie:Except that he had malicious intent and he is not a Muslim. Further Muhammad (as), is dead. He could not Physically defend himself. Even though God and His Angels and believers are cursing the Cartoonist, he crossed the line.
Now, I am not sure if you area Nigerian and if you were old enough to understand anything in '75, when Murtala Muhammad died. Just before his death, Fela Anikulapo, was saying terrible things about him. That was not the strory, but after his death, Obasanjo, enacted a law, retrospectively against libelling anyone who is dead. The Nigerian Government did it in order to depend the late Murtala, and by it, had a window to bring the law down of Fela.
Just imagine the damage and ill feeling that the cartoonist caused? Is it a good thing to yell fire in a crowded theater, yet freedom of speech allows you to say whatever, but not in every case. The fire in the theater, is an example.
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davidylan (m)
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;d ;d ;d ;d :d :d :d
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nwando
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Now I feel another surge of expression coming on.
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nwando
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;d ;d ;d ;d :d :d :d
a line well drawn
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Kobojunkie
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Kokojunkie:Except that he had malicious intent and he is not a Muslim. Further Muhammad (as), is dead. He could not Physically defend himself. Even though God and His Angels and believers are cursing the Cartoonist, he crossed the line.
Now, I am not sure if you area Nigerian and if you were old enough to understand anything in '75, when Murtala Muhammad died. Just before his death, Fela Anikulapo, was saying terrible things about him. That was not the strory, but after his death, Obasanjo, enacted a law, retrospectively against libelling anyone who is dead. The Nigerian Government did it in order to depend the late Murtala, and by it, had a window to bring the law down of Fela.
Just imagine the damage and ill feeling that the cartoonist caused? Is it a good thing to yell fire in a crowded theater, yet freedom of speech allows you to say whatever, but not in every case. The fire in the theater, is an example.
LOL @Olabowale, So now mohammed is dead and your God needed you all to turn into crazy bullies so you can defend a DEAD man?? While he(your God) sits cursing the cartoonist from afar?? Why didn't you all tell your God to do something instead?? is your God a wimp or something?? Why does a DEAD man need to be defended ?? What good does it do him that the living should loose their lives and claim the lives of other humans for the DEAD man?? @Olabowale you really think you are good in rolling unrelated things up to make your point, but it aint going to work. What happened with Murtala was just obasanjo trying to use his power the way it is not supposed to and if you followed Nigerian history since then, you would also note that that law did not stop those who wanted to pin crimes on him from doing what they wanted to do. That is a whole nother issue. The man in denmark was not a muslim sure and what he did was not akin to shouting fire in a crowded theatre. He simple expressed his view of islam and the islamic world is actually to get credit for turning it into chaos all on their own. @Olabowale, while the rest of the world was left amazed at how these muslims act like stupid teenagers over mere ink and paper. Try another excuse please. But the question still stands @Olabowale. Why was it ok for those muslims to have reacted the way they did when the cartoonist in denmark expressed his view?? By the way @Nwando, that last cartoon clearly tells what most of the world sees today of islam. LMAO!!!!!
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nwando
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let me add that if allah spends his time cursing cartoonists,he must have a lot of time on his hands. He shouldn't be wasting time on frivolities when there are little boys rocking back and forth mumbling things that he ought to be listening to 
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naijaking1
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Who are you to judge who has or has not disrespected Mohammed or the Islam, and to aportion punishment?
Muslims call for war when they go about judging who has disrespected them, and taking action to punish the individual as they see fit.
A retogressive move that could erode people's tolerance for Islam and for Muslims in general.
In recent times Muslims have rioted, killed people and demonstrated for insult against their religion for:
1.Cartoons 2. Someone(allegedly) stepping on their holy book 3. Someone (allegdely)defeacating on their holy book 4. Women not dressing properly 5. Female Youth corpers wearing trousers in the north 6. Women ridding as okada passangers 7. Women sharing same commercial bus with men. 8. Someone wrote an insulting novel about Islam 9. Igbo people trying to build churches outside of Sabon Gari areas of northern cities. 10. After a Sudanese boy fails to have the class teddy bear named after himself, instead the bear was named after another boy, the teacher is blamed primary because of her personal problems with the school secretary. 11. The list goes on, and on.
Olabowale and other muslims in the US enjoy ridding buses, trains, and mixing up with women in NYC, but when they go to naija, they incite riot against the same practice they enjoy all year long.
At this rate, and very soon, many progressive societies will find ways of eliminating and stopping this retrogressive religion called Islam.
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pilgrim.1 (f)
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@olabowale, @Buluti: Even though, I may disagree with the Muslims, in many of there reactions to the several provocations, I clearly disagree with your opinion of the matter. For one, the writer of the Davinci Code is not in anyway a Muslim. If he is not a practicing Christian, he would be however be identified as a Christian. The only reason why someone would claim that Dan Brown (author of Da Vinci Code) should be identified as a "Christian" is the same reason why Salman Rushdie should be identified as a "Muslim" (afterall, he is also a fiction writer who was born into a Shia Muslim family in Mumbai). Have not seen any Muslim, who have caricatured or lampooned Paul or The Pope or The Archbishop of Canterbury; your Christian authority symbols? What really do you gain from your hypocrisy and lies? How many times would you make such off-handed statements of ignorance and pretend that the things you complain about do not exist among Muslims? Have you OLABOWALE not lampooned Jesus on this Forum several times? Further your suggestion that the Muslims should line up in front of the train, is really a statement of ignorance? Is this the instruction left behind by Paul, the founder of Christianity? Please stop hiding behind your finger. Did Muhammad leave you an instruction to malign Jesus Christ as you have severally done? Jesus will suggest a different way. The behavior of the Nairaland Christians is very contrary to Jesus way. It points out very clearly that you are all deviants or truly your religion is the exact projection that you exhibit. Maybe all of you are truly children of your father Beliel, the devil. Hehe. . .  Na true say something don pinch your somewhere! You may have a problem with Christians on Nairaland - but at least, the Forum is still in one piece. If we have to go by the behavious of Muslims outside the forum, then it is true that the Muslim terrorists are precisely exhibiting Muhammad's career - afterall, even he himself declared: "I have been made victorious with TERROR!!"
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pilgrim.1 (f)
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Olabowale and other muslims in the US enjoy ridding buses, trains, and mixing up with women in NYC, but when they go to naija, they incite riot against the same practice they enjoy all year long. It is just a matter of the same old hypocrisy in Islam.
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buluti (m)
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@ olabowale, it is quite clear in your heart you doubt your Allah is alive? Why does he require you to protect a dead man, that married a 6 yr old girl and did several despicable things. The actions of muslims be they extrmist as the moderates call them is stupid, childish and not acceptable in a secular soceity.
Ok my suggestion that FemiAtl jumps in front of a moving train pains you, i hereby extend that suggest to all your extremist muslims including yourself (since you might not support the actions but are sympathetic to their cause), if they don't like what people are saying kill yourself in protest and go get the virgins promised, leave INNOCENT PEOPLE ALONE. They have a right to say whatever they choose without fear or favour. No matter what they do, the world is not scared and would never be. I am also happy you know my Jesus would not want me to suggest such, so its established my Jesus is not in the same league with your mohammed or watva counterfeit ISA in the Koran.
You guys can't understand the liberty we christains have, the holy spirit dwells in us,he lives in us, i am under no code mate, i am a law unto myself oh. Contradict or misquote me if you choose, the things of the spirit can't be understood by the carnal mind so i wont xpect u to.
What are you on about, you are so contradictory and confused in your responses. The issue is pretty straightforward, do people have the right to say whatever, whether extremist muslims like it or not?
Allah should fight for himself and this babaric behaviour in the name of religion must stop, declare a fatwa nonsense on buluti if you choose (if thats what its called) so ridicolous declare a bounty on someone for writing a book.
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skyone (m)
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@Olabowale
I'm glad you are at the verge of your PEAK, like i said they make their victims to reason awkwardly, react crazily and even persuade them to cast their vote on the next prey to be butchered whenever they realise they about to live.
But never mind my dear friend those demons will finally leave you; and you will begin to see the light and dark side of this very Earth we dwell in.
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Horus (m)
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The Teddy Bear after the crimeI hope to God they don't be-head the teddy! It is too late for the teddy bear.According to the Sudanese authorities the teddy bear was beheaded after angry protesters streamed out of a nearby mosque brandishing clubs and knives.Observers told reporters the beheading of the teddy bear did not appear to be sanctioned by the government of Sudan.
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olabowale (m)
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@Buluti: It is Allah who deals with His creation as He wishes and at the appointed time. Jesus bin Mariam, is not your, ethnically or spiritually. It is obvious that you may not come from any branch of what is originally Children of Israel, who Jesus preached to, exclusively.
By spirituality, even as you claim that you are attached to him, it is not necessarily true. You only borrow his name for your religion. It is in the same way the moon and the star borrow light from the sun. Yet, neither the moon nor the star is a true provider of light. They don't make it.
Jesus is not a founder of your religion and he not aware of it. So dream on. You have said that you are a law to yourself. There is not surprise in your statement, because it is obvious that Christians march to different drums.
Why fatwa on an known entity? My brother Buluti, there is paranoial in your tone. Pele Pele o. Take it easy. Please don't burst any blood vessels or worst a major vein. Your country still needs your positive contribution to make it a better society. After your bit and you get old and wither, and if you are still a christian, and dies on it, there is lake of fire waiting to consume your body and soul.
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mrpataki (m)
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@ Olabowale, May God deliver you before it is too late. If you still wallow in this stupidity called Islam, you will have yourself to blame at the end of time. Christianity is lovely, it does not require man to defend God, as your religion does. Muhammad is shit! If you like get a cutlass and come for my head in the Netherlands. Do you want my house address? 
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olabowale (m)
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@Mrpataki: lol! Orishi rishi.
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pilgrim.1 (f)
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@olabowale, After your bit and you get old and wither, and if you are still a christian, and dies on it, there is lake of fire waiting to consume your body and soul. Where did you read that a lake of fire awaits to consume the body and soul of a person who dies as a Christian? 
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davidylan (m)
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@olabowale, Where did you read that a lake of fire awaits to consume the body and soul of a person who dies as a Christian?  it must be in allah's lost version of the torah, u know that one where he also read that allah would place a bridge over hell for him.
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olabowale (m)
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@Pilgrim.1: It is 'HATMAN DECREE,' that perplexes your thought, from Suratul Mariam, verse 71. Be ready for the Catwalk. It is a forgone conclusion.
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philip404u
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man is the only animal that kills not for food but for pleasure
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Uche2nna (m)
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@ olabowale, it is quite clear in your heart you doubt your Allah is alive? Why does he require you to protect a dead man, that married a 6 yr old girl and did several despicable things.
Plenty of aspersions cast on the person of Mohammed. And especially after Nwando video link, I would really have to spend a little more time reading up about Mohammed life style. I wonder if he was bethroted to the 6 yr old girl or he married the 6 year old girl as a fully grown ass man. 
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