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Did mohammed plagiarise the bible?
Why did mohammed need Waraqa, the christian slave, to tell him it was "angel gabriel" who spoke to him?
Why did mohammed copy the Lord's prayer?
Perhaps i shld hold my brief until some bumbling disciple of Zakir Naik comes along.
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@olabowale, Okay, I'll be watching alongside the interesting remarks of disciples of Zaik Naik, even though I'm going to be very busy this week.  Did mohammed plagiarise the bible?
Why did mohammed need Waraqa, the christian slave, to tell him it was "angel gabriel" who spoke to him? Food for thought. Also, how come Jibril was "pressing" Muhammad until he scampered hom and asked to be hid - and they covered him till he recovered!?  |
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nwando
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was jibril a demon?
no be today we sabi say mo na were
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davidylan (m)
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Plagiarizing the Lord's prayer
Example 1
Narrated AbudDarda':
I heard the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) say: If any of you is suffering from anything or his brother is suffering, he should say:
Our Lord is Allah Who is in the heaven,
holy is Thy name,
Thy command reigns supreme in the heaven and the earth,
as Thy mercy in the heaven,
make Thy mercy in the earth;
forgive us our sins, and our errors;
Thou art the Lord of good men;
send down mercy from Thy mercy, and remedy, and remedy from Thy remedy on this pain so that it is healed up. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 28, Number 3883)
Please compare this to the Lord's prayer in the bible
"After this manner therefore pray ye:
Our Father which art in heaven,
Hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come,
Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts,
as we forgive our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil:
For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen." Matthew 6:9-13
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olabowale (m)
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O un to wa leyin ofa o ju to je lo! How is 8 equal to 10? Plagiarizing the Lord's prayer (Only in the mind of Christians, Okay the evil Christians will 8 be equal to 10! Come to think of it 3 is also equal to 1 in theit Book! lol. Don't kill me with laughter eyin Omo Nigeria o! I have important matters to attend to!
Example 1 (Did Muhammad (as) referred to Allah as Father in this below? Eyin Eniyan e ba mi da si oro yi?
Narrated AbudDarda':
I heard the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) say: If any of you is suffering from anything or his brother is suffering, he should say:
1 Our Lord is Allah Who is in the heaven,
2 holy is Thy name,
3 Thy command reigns supreme in the heaven and the earth,
4 as Thy mercy in the heaven,
5 make Thy mercy in the earth;
6 forgive us our sins, and our errors;
7 Thou art the Lord of good men;
8 send down mercy from Thy mercy, and remedy, and remedy from Thy remedy on this pain so that it is healed up. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 28, Number 3883)
Please compare this to the Lord's prayer in the bible
1 "After this manner therefore pray ye:
2 Our Father which art in heaven,
3 Hallowed be thy name.
4 Thy kingdom come,
5 Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
6 Give us this day our daily bread.
7 And forgive us our debts,
8 as we forgive our debtors.
9 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil:
10 For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen." Matthew 6:9-13
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davidylan (m)
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O un to wa leyin ofa o ju to je lo! How is 8 equal to 10? Plagiarizing the Lord's prayer (Only in the mind of Christians, Okay the evil Christians will 8 be equal to 10! Come to think of it 3 is also equal to 1 in theit Book! lol. Don't kill me with laughter eyin Omo Nigeria o! I have important matters to attend to!
Example 1 (Did Muhammad (as) referred to Allah as Father in this below? Eyin Eniyan e ba mi da si oro yi?
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davidylan (m)
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Very interesting story . . .
Hadith Qudsi 18:
On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said: Allah (mighty and sublime be He) will say on the Day of Resurrection:
O son of Adam, I fell ill and you visited Me not. He will say: O Lord, and how should I visit You when You are the Lord of the worlds? He will say: Did you not know that My servant So-and-so had fallen ill and you visited him not? Did you not know that had you visited him you would have found Me with him? O son of Adam, I asked you for food and you fed Me not. He will say: O Lord, and how should I feed You when You are the Lord of the worlds? He will say: Did you not know that My servant So-and-so asked you for food and you fed him not? Did you notknow that had you fed him you would surely have found that (the reward for doing so) with Me? O son of Adam, I asked you to give Me to drink and you gave Me not to drink. He will say: O Lord, how should I give You to drink when You are the Lord of the worlds? He will say My servant So-and-so asked you to give him to drink and you gave him not to drink. Had you given him to drink you would have surely found that with Me.
hmmm except this is completely taken from . . .
For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.’ Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ He will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life." Matthew 25:31-46
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@olabowale,
Okay, I'll be watching alongside the interesting remarks of disciples of Zaik Naik, even though I'm going to be very busy this week.
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Did mohammed plagiarise the bible? (No! But his stuff is head and shoulders better than the confusionist book called the 'B' book!
Why did mohammed need Waraqa, the christian slave, to tell him it was "angel gabriel" who spoke to him? (Use your marble! Simple reasoning will tell anyone that he never had experienced the true and complete Angelic presence of Jibril (as),before then. Duh! In the word of Homer Simpson, Do-uh.
Food for thought. Also, how come Jibril was "pressing" Muhammad until he scampered hom and asked to be hid - and they covered him till he recovered!? (The same reason that Moses perplexed when he heard Allah's voice at the burning bush. And Moses ran when the staff became snake, at this occasion! Homer Simpson again!
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was jibril a demon? (Wasn't that the Bible reported that the demon ran Jesus into the wilderness, and tempted him, three times?
no be today we sabi say mo na were (I remember a Yoruba song that goes something like this: E nu mi ko ma pa mi o, e he he, enu mi ko ma pa mi. A ron mo ni siga o, ko ma ma fi yoo si, enu mi ko ma pa mi. So people are just wreckless with their mouth.
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Quote from: davidylan on Yesterday at 08:04:55 PM
Did mohammed plagiarise the bible? (No! But his stuff is head and shoulders better than the confusionist book called the 'B' book!
Interesting to note that as usual you leave the substance to chase shadows. Does the "stuff" include the two examples staring you in the face right now? Why don't you start your rebuttals from there? |
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olabowale (m)
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It is very obvious that the hadith Qursi posted as number 6 above, by the eminent Scholar of Islam,
encourages believers to do good deeds. It is very different from what the Christians are comparing
it under the same post. Are the Christians telling us that kindness and good deeds are their sole
obligations, alone? Their idea of God was a Jewish man in the streets of Jerusalem, Galilee, Bethlehem!
Every human being has a duty to do good deeds. In the hadith posted, Allah did not say one will go
to hell because of this. The Christian statement below it talks about the Hell if one does not do it, maybe
even one time. (The one time thing is my statement, just to drive home my point!) Further, it is interesting
to know that they are comparing their Gospel, to Islamic Hadith! Do uh.
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davidylan (m)
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It is very obvious that the hadith Qursi posted as number 6 above, by the eminent Scholar of Islam,
encourages believers to do good deeds. It is very different from what the Christians are comparing
it under the same post. Are the Christians telling us that kindness and good deeds are their sole
obligations, alone? Their idea of God was a Jewish man in the streets of Jerusalem, Galilee, Bethlehem!
Every human being has a duty to do good deeds. In the hadith posted, Allah did not say one will go
to hell because of this. The Christian statement below it talks about the Hell if one does not do it, maybe
even one time. (The one time thing is my statement, just to drive home my point!) Further, it is interesting
to know that they are comparing their Gospel, to Islamic Hadith! Do uh.
alhaji, yet again you continue to peddle your penchant for dishonesty. The issue at stake here is not one of making patent claims on Kindness and good deeds, even Hindus place a premium on them. The crux of the matter is the suspicious similarities between the stories mohammed claimed as revelations and the biblical sermons of Jesus Christ. The second example (qudsi 18) remains the most striking to me! Alhaji, take off your blinkered glasses, how did allah send a "revelation" that was 95% what is in the very bible muslims claim has been corrupted? |
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This allah sef  |
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olabowale (m)
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@Pilgrim.1: Its the holy month for pilgrimage. Yet your very concern is comparing
your Holy book, to Hadith, Qursi or not! Is this not interesting? First, Jesus and
Muhammad are brothers in prophethood and the later succeeded the former in
Messengership.
In Surah Safaat, Isa bin Mariam's roles, included the announcement of the prophet
who's name is Ahmad. Your accusation of plagiarism, is unfounded, in a spiritual
sense. Afterall, we acknowledge Jesus son of Mary as a Prophet of his LORD God.
The people of Torah say the same thing about you. They call you idol worshippers.
I believe that they are correct. Further, you relegate a giant prophet, in the
personality of Moses, the one who his Lord spoke to, many times, without an Angel.
to a mere Biblical Patriarch. You did the same to Ibrahim, the father of pure faith, who
his Lord called His personal friend!
Allah says in the Qur'an that the earlier prophets served as examples to Muhammad;
as people who persevered before Muhammad, as people who had enemies, before
Muhammad, as people who received revelations before Muhammad, as people who
persecuted before Muhammad, as people who were patient before Muhammad, as
people who did aboundant of good and displayed mercy before Muhammad, etc.
Why ask why? They were both slaves of Allah, holding prophetic and messengership
offices, as leaders succeeding after each other. Links in the long chain of prophethood.
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@Pilgrim.1: Its the holy month for pilgrimage. Yet your very concern is comparing
your Holy book, to Hadith, Qursi or not! Is this not interesting? First, Jesus and
Muhammad are brothers in prophethood and the later succeeded the former in
Messengership.
So in short, the quran is simply mohammed copying from his biblical "brothers in prophethood"? Such hypocrites! |
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@topic,
In the spirit of the topic, here is an excerpt of what I said to olabowale on another topic here on nairaland.
It is so intriguing to realise that part of the Jewish oral tradition (the Mishnah) was lifted word for word and included in your Koran. Do you realise that the koranic verse in 5:32 that says: "And for this reason, we ordained for the children of Israel that whoever has killed a single human without just cause, it is as if he has killed the entire humankind." was lifted from the "Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin, 37a." So much for the divine inspriational source of the koran. In our day and age, Muhammad would have been sued for copyright violation while not acknowledging its source.
So you see, the Koran is nothing but a book of plagiarism, peppered with demon-inspired revelations to a nationalistic Bedoiun with an elevated tribalistic ego.
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nwando
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There was a Christian scientist on youtube that debated a few Mulsims with valid proofs that all the "miracles" and " scientific predictions" of Mohammed and his allah were documented theories from some scientists of that day.
Mohammed is lucky copyright laws were not in place then.
He would have heard nwiiiii.
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nwando
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The people of Torah say the same thing about you. They call you idol worshippers.I believe that they are correct. Further, you relegate a giant prophet, in the
personality of Moses, the one who his Lord spoke to, many times, without an Angel.
to a mere Biblical Patriarch. You did the same to Ibrahim, the father of pure faith, who
his Lord called His personal friend!
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Give a proof from the Torah or Talmud. not hear say Or forever hold your peace I'm getting rather disgusted with all your lies.
It must be an act of "jihad" for a grown man to tell blatant lies.The main difference between Jews and Christians and is that Jews believe Christ was just a teacher not the promised messiah. They are still waiting for a MessiahBut we know that Christ fulfilled all those prophecies by Isaiah,Jeremiah,Amos and Ezekiel. A lot of Jews have also turned to Christ by those same prophecies,they are called Messianic Jews,Jews for Christ ETC. Use your google my dear. |
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nwando
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And this is the clincher.
Thousands of Jews have believed in Christ by this singular passage in the Torah.
Isaiah 53
1 Who has believed our message
and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
3 He was despised and rejected by men,
a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering.
Like one from whom men hide their faces
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4 Surely he took up our infirmities
and carried our sorrows,
yet we considered him stricken by God,
smitten by him, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was upon him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to his own way;
and the LORD has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before her shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
8 By oppression [a] and judgment he was taken away.
And who can speak of his descendants?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was stricken. [b]
9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the LORD makes [c] his life a guilt offering,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.
11 After the suffering of his soul,
he will see the light of life [d] and be satisfied [e] ;
by his knowledge [f] my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, [g]
and he will divide the spoils with the strong, [h]
because he poured out his life unto death,
and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors.
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davidylan (m)
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In Surah Safaat, Isa bin Mariam's roles, included the announcement of the prophet
who's name is Ahmad. Your accusation of plagiarism, is unfounded, in a spiritual
sense. Afterall, we acknowledge Jesus son of Mary as a Prophet of his LORD God.
BUT in the same vein you accuse the bible of being unreliably corrupted. How then can the words of a "corrupt" bible be part of the "Revelations" from allah? The people of Torah say the same thing about you. They call you idol worshippers.
the torah says no such thing neither do the Jews. They may be doing so in the deluded minds of muslims. I believe that they are correct. Further, you relegate a giant prophet, in the
personality of Moses, the one who his Lord spoke to, many times, without an Angel.
why then could allah not speak to mohammed WITHOUT an angel? to a mere Biblical Patriarch. You did the same to Ibrahim, the father of pure faith, who
his Lord called His personal friend! 1. Your description of abraham as the father of faith is not to be found anywhere in your quran but is merely a plagiarism of the book of Genesis and Hebrews . . . a book written by the same Paul you accuse of destroying christianity. What "faith" do the muslims talk about when they refer to abraham as the father of pure faith? 2. Allah must be confused . . . how could he call abraham his "personal friend" when even mohammed was but a slave to the same allah? Where IN THE QURAN did allah refer to abraham as his "personal friend"? Copying Hebrews again alhaji? Allah says in the Qur'an that the earlier prophets served as examples to Muhammad;
1. We know that the biblical prophets were not examples to mohammed. 2. Whenever the biblical men of God used words from other prophets, they made sure to credit the source by clearly stating . . . "it is written". Even Jesus Christ credited Isaiah with his own words. Mohammed on the other hand simply copied these tales he heard from the likes of waraqa and dressed them up as "revelations" from allah. Why ask why? They were both slaves of Allah,
but abraham was allah's "personal friend"? Are you this confused? holding prophetic and messengership
offices, as leaders succeeding after each other. Links in the long chain of prophethood.
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Why do you people love to abuse fellow discussants.
Why do you address others with foul appellations.
You need to learn how to be civil.
As for the topic, Muhammed and Christ Jesus got divine inspiration from the same source. What has happened is that the lies that were introduced into the teachings of Jesus were corrected through Muhammed. The truth that remained standing were re-confirmed by Muhammed. It is that very simple unless anybody choose to twist the fact. Such a person will not only be diabolical but cast aspersion even on the personality of Jesus in an attempt to degrade the status of Muhammed.
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Why do you people love to abuse fellow discussants.
Why do you address others with foul appellations.
You need to learn how to be civil.
Derobe yourself of the default islamic "victim" mentality anytime the duplicity of the quran is exposed. The discussion is civil. As for the topic, Muhammed and Christ Jesus got divine inspiration from the same source.
That is totally false. 1. Neither Jesus Christ nor Muhammad got the "divine inspiration" through the same medium. Jesus Christ preached the word without having to rely on monologues from an alleged angel gabriel. 2. Where in the bible do we find Jesus Christ talking of satanic verses and abrogated "revelations"? What has happened is that the lies that were introduced into the teachings of Jesus were corrected through Muhammed.
1. What lies? Please provide concrete proof. 2. Was mohammed attempting to correct these "lies" by plagiarising the bible and dressing it up as "revelations" from allah? Why didnt he make the categorical claim that he was correcting the "lies" introduced into the "teachings of Jesus"? The truth that remained standing were re-confirmed by Muhammed.
Reconfirmed or plagiarised? It is that very simple unless anybody choose to twist the fact. Such a person will not only be diabolical but cast aspersion even on the personality of Jesus in an attempt to degrade the status of Muhammed.
That is false. This has absolutely nothing to do with the Lord Jesus Christ but with a false prophet who copied whole portions of the bible while pretending to be recieving "revelations". Why did allah cease sending "revelations" to mohammed for a space of 3yrs after Waraqa's death? Could it be that it coincided with the period where mohammed no longer had access to portions of the bible he could pass off as "revelations"? |
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Waraqa or no Waraqa, Muhammad (as) received revelations for 23 years! After the
final revelation, Muhammad died! Every one knew, that when Surah Nasr (Victory, a short
chapter towards the end of Qur'an), was revealed, Muhammad will only have a short time
to live. Whats more for a final messenger after the final message was delivered?
Quote from: nuru on Today at 06:12:25 PM
What has happened is that the lies that were introduced into the teachings of Jesus were corrected through Muhammad.
1. What lies? Please provide concrete proof. (That Allah is one of three. That Jesus is a son of Allah. That Jesus did not die, and was not crucified. Enough for now! lol.
2. Was Mohamed attempting to correct these "lies" by plagiarising the bible and dressing it up as "revelations" from Allah? Why didnt he make the categorical claim that he was correcting the "lies" introduced into the "teachings of Jesus"? (Muhammad was not the speaker in the Qur'an. However, true to the revelation given to Jesus, son of Mary, a messenger of his Lord Allah the Almighty, Muhammad repeated what he heard. Exactly as he heard it. He added nothing. He deducted nothing. A proof of that were Surah Ahzah, as it concerned Zaid and his estranged, later ex-wife, and Surah Abasa. The Speaker of the Qur'an is Allah Himself, the Everliving God.
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so olabowole who wrote the Koran?
why did aisha say mohammeds Lord rushes to please him by giving him revelations to match his desires?
waiting for answers
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Quote from: nuru on Today at 06:12:25 PM
The truth that remained standing were re-confirmed by Muhammad.
Reconfirmed or plagiarised? (Its ironic that an illiterate plagiarised a classic,
the has the smartness to leave out mundane, irrelevant and lies out of his product.
What is more amassing is that the product of this illiterate is Head and shoulders better
than the old relic, which others are still passing up as classic.
For example, it is the grammar of Qur'an that is the standard of which all Arabic materials,
indeed the Bible in Arabic, is being measured! How is this possible, unless this is the New and
latest classic? Yet, the challenge to produce a chapter that could compete with it is unfulfilled
for over 14 hundred years!
Look, the shortest chapter in this glorious book, is only 4 verses, Surah kauthar, can any one
among the Christians, take up this challenge? Ask your Jewish overlords to support you. Ask any
other group that can come to your aid, all of you will produce garbage, completely inferior in your
effort.
This alone is a proof of the superiority of Qur'an over any book! We do not need, edition, revision,
version, etc, etc.
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cough cough sneeze sneeze.
We have already exposed the manual of hate.
There are not too many words with which to say
"hunt them down and strike their necks"
This is not a context.
The truth stands and 6 million adult muslims see it yearly by His grace
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biko don't change the subject
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another bomb shell from an authentic hadith.
A Christian who converted to Islam wrote Muhammad's revelations; then he reverted back to Christianity and claimed that Muhammad knew nothing and he wrote the Quran for Muhammad; when this man died his body was repeatedly thrown out from the grave, 4.56.814
Volume 4, Book 56, Number 814:
Narrated Anas:
There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat-al-Baqara and Al-Imran, and he used to write (the revelations) for the Prophet. Later on he returned to Christianity again and he used to say: "Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him."
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[The Dictionary of Islam (Hughes Dictionary of Islam, p.223) writes that Jabr was one of the Ahlu-l-Kitab and was well-read in the Taurat and Injil, and Muhammad used to hear him read these books as he passed by his house. Muhammad must have learned from Jabr many of those Suras dealing with the traditions of the Christians and the Jews. Most likely the verses on David and Solomon were composed by Jabr. Some of these verses are (only the main messages are shown here; for details read the entire verse):
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Volume 4, Book 55, Number 605:
Narrated 'Aisha:
The Prophet returned to Khadija while his heart was beating rapidly. She took him to Waraqa bin Naufal who was a Christian convert and used to read the Gospels in Arabic Waraqa asked (the Prophet), "What do you see?" When he told him, Waraqa said, "That is the same angel whom Allah sent to the Prophet) Moses. Should I live till you receive the Divine Message, I will support you strongly."
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Waraqa or no Waraqa, Muhammad (as) received revelations for 23 years!
why then did the "revelations" dry up completely for 3 years immediately following Waraqa's death? … But a short while later Waraqa died and the Divine Inspiration was paused (stopped) for a while so that Allah's Apostle was very much grieved…[Al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 478] As with all other islamic appologists, you prefer to argue from a position of silence. It is clear that mohammed had other sources for the torah and injeel besides waraqa. 1. What lies? Please provide concrete proof. (That Allah is one of three. That Jesus is a son of Allah. That Jesus did not die, and was not crucified. Enough for now! lol.
While trying to make sure you don't cleverly change the direction of the topic let me just say very briefly that the above is nothing but a lie and had been foretold as part of the message of the anti-christ. Muhammad was not the speaker in the Qur'an. However, true to the revelation given to Jesus, son of Mary, a messenger of his Lord Allah the Almighty, Muhammad repeated what he heard. Exactly as he heard it. He added nothing. He deducted nothing. A proof of that were Surah Ahzah, as it concerned Zaid and his estranged, later ex-wife, and Surah Abasa. The Speaker of the Qur'an is Allah Himself, the Everliving God.
Mohammad was not repeating what he heard, he was simply distorting biblical stories and dressing them up as "revelations". You cannot claim the entire bible is false then turn around to try and force mohammed into it. The case of Zaid's wife was clearly that of lust. Only a wicked god steals the wife of another man just to please his chief slave. David did same and was punished for it. |
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Here is a brief list of some of the materials in the Qur’an that Muhammad copied/adopted from the Christians, the Jews, the Armenians, the Hindus and the Magians (Zoroastrians):
Tayammum (4:43): Copied from the Jewish Scripture the Talmud.
Breathing life into birds (2:260, 3:49, 5:110): Copied from the Coptic books.
Houris, Azazil (44:54): Learned from the foreigners in Mecca.
Harut amd Marut (2:102): From the Armenian books—Harut and Marut are in control of wind and rain.
Allah’s throne above water (11:7): From the Jewish tradition.
Malik, the ruler of Hell (43:77): From the Jews.
7 Heavens (2:29, 41:12): Adopted from the Sanskrit Scripture of the Hindus.
Mary giving birth under the trunk of a tree (19:23): Copied from the Gospel of Infancy, an apocryphal Christian Gospel
Infant Jesus talking (3:46, 19:30-31, 19:33): Copied from the Gospel of Infancy.
Description of Paradise and Hell (there are many verses—see the section on Salman, the Persian: Copied from the Magians (Zoroastrians) and the Hindus.
Jesus not killed, Allah lifted up Jesus (3:55, 4:157-158): Copied from the Gospel of Barnabas
The story of Joseph (Sura 12): Copied from the Midrash, a Jewish Scripture.
The story of Solomon and Sheba (21:78-82, 27:17-19, 27:22-23): Copied from the Haggada, a Jewish Scripture.
The original Qur’an is kept in Heaven (43:4, 85:21-22): The Talmud says it is a preserved tablet in Heaven.
Angel of death--Azrail or Azazil, Malaku’l Maut (6:61, 7:37, 32:11): Adopted from the Jewish and the Magian (Zoroastrian) scriptures.
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Reconfirmed or plagiarised? (Its ironic that an illiterate plagiarised a classic,
the has the smartness to leave out mundane, irrelevant and lies out of his product.
the "illiterate" gambit is a muslim alibi for mohammed. Mohammed did not write the quran, infact it was passed down from generation to generation via oral tradition. You don't have to be literate to be able to hear a story and simply retell it, decieving your fellow illiterates that it was a "revelation" from god. they wouldnt have known any better. What is more amassing is that the product of this illiterate is Head and shoulders better
than the old relic, which others are still passing up as classic.
there is nothing amazing there. I will ask just 2 questions: 1. Why did Allah name the Chapters of the Quran as, The Clot, Cattle, Crouching, The Jinn, The Cow, The Elephant, The Bee, The Ant, The Spider, Iron, etc., which is not proper for a holy book? 2. Why did Allah say in 86:5-7 that man was created from a gushing fluid, from between the loins and the ribs; but everyone knows sperm comes from the testicles (how can Allah be so wrong)? - the quran is indeed "amazing", in terms of the amount of illogical babble it contains. For example, it is the grammar of Qur'an that is the standard of which all Arabic materials,
indeed the Bible in Arabic, is being measured! How is this possible, unless this is the New and
latest classic? Yet, the challenge to produce a chapter that could compete with it is unfulfilled
for over 14 hundred years!
Why did allah send the quran ONLY in arabic? yet he claims to be the "lord of the worlds". This alone is a proof of the superiority of Qur'an over any book! We do not need, edition, revision,
version, etc, etc.
we are not asking for "proof of superiority", we simply ask a question . . . WHY did mohammed have to plagiarise the bible? |
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