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|Religion / Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by PastorAIO: 11:09am On Sep 26|
Nietzsche's thoughts did not bring fascism. Nazis distorted this thoughts to support their ideology. Pretty much the same way that Jesus did not teach the greater part of what is called christianity today.
Freud: There is a difference between Psychology and Psychiatry.
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|Religion / Re: Rising Atheism By Deji Yesufu by PastorAIO: 11:02am On Sep 26|
Are you joking?!!
Can you back up any of these claims that you are making here? How did protestantism open the search for knowledge in science?
How the hell did it birth the industrial revolution? And how did industrial revolution give us modern science?
and what exactly is this great deal that the 'true' Christian faith shares with Atheists?
Of all the wrong facts presented by the OP these are the most glaring.
|Religion / Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by PastorAIO: 11:52am On Sep 25|
There are lies upon lies and You are a liar.
I pointed it out to you, but I'm willing to do so again.
1) You accused me of saying that the inhaler was a sign of faith when I said no such thing. You purposely chose to misunderstand what i said.
I had questioned your claim that throwing away her inhaler was a sure sign that she didn't have faith in God. You are just twisting and writhing like a cornered serpent that has a torchlight shining on it.
2) You say you are not discrediting the pastor when there are clear posts that you are. Then you try to writhe your way out of it but redefining the meaning of discredit and claiming that calling him a mushroom pastor is not discrediting him. You're pathetic.
3) You then try to slip in some nonsense about a pastor/prophet being 'nationally acclaimed' before they can be valid. Yet we know in the bible that many prophets like Jeremiah were not nationally acclaimed but were in fact victimized by the authorities. And there are passages in the bible attacking the 'nationally established' prophets. You are even prepared to lie on the bible's head if that will suit your agenda.
|Religion / Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by PastorAIO: 11:42am On Sep 25|
How do you know the word of God? Is it not human beings that told you that something was the Word of God?
|Religion / Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will NEVER Be A Christian Again. by PastorAIO: 6:12pm On Sep 24|
|Religion / Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by PastorAIO: 4:36pm On Sep 24|
Kai! See lies upon lies!!
If an inhaler is not a relevant point, why do you hypocritically mention it as a sign of faith in God? Are you confused again? There is no Word of God that says to throw away or keep an inhaler as a sign of faith, is there?
Where did I say that the inhaler (in toto) was not relevant? Maybe you're not a liar maybe you just didn't read what I said properly so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and repeat what I said again -
YOUR claim that you can have faith without throwing away an inhaler is NOT a relevant point.
What is relevant is YOUR claim that throwing away her inhaler is a sure sign that she didn't have faith in God.
There is no Word of God that says to throw away or keep an inhaler as a sign of faith, is there?
See yourself, monkey!! You actually say things like that as a serious point of your argument. As if the writer of the bible could even imagine that such a thing as inhaler could exist. If they see inhaler they will call it magic.
i'm not discrediting the pastor BTW.
Really? Hmmmm... What is this?
Your 'proof' of faith is obedience to an unscriptural instruction from her pastor.
Now show us how your pastor friend followed Christ in telling the girl to throw away her inhaler as faith in God?
not on the unbiblical instruction of some mushroom pastor.
So all the above and more is not an attempt to discredit the pastor? Lying hypocrite!!
And if he is not a 'nationally established pastor' nko, does that not discredit him?
Even the idea of a nationally established pastor is so utterly stupid.
nationally acclaimed prophet
Ezekiel 13: 2“Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel, who are prophesying, and say to those who prophesy from their own hearts: ‘Hear the word of the Lord!’
i have NEVER claimed that he is not a man of God. i hardly care [/b]if he is or not.
That you obviously don't care is the most glaring thing in all you've said. You don't care for the truth of any matter.
Paul asked christians to follow him as he followed Christ. Not daftly like zombies.
So if you follow Christ daftly like a zombie then you are damned, abi?
It is not biblical. Jesus and no bible character ever asked anyone to throw away anything to show faith. There are litererally hundreds of miracles in the Bible. No such faith was required for the miracles to be done.
So now if a miracle is not in the bible then that miracle cannot occur.
|Religion / Re: Neo Platonism by PastorAIO: 3:06pm On Sep 24|
Yup! and in fact many of the various strands had their origins in Judaism which was multifaceted too. It was the Pharisees that believed in the resurrection of the Body, not the Sadducees.
|Religion / Re: Neo Platonism by PastorAIO: 2:35pm On Sep 24|
This is so fascinating. I almost want to start another thread just to discuss these things you are saying.
While I can't speak for Plotinus, I think your criticism depends on how you're reading the passage and there is more than one interpretation.
When he says 'Goodness, Like light, ...', he is not necessarily suggesting an essential similarity in the ways Goodness and Light work. Rather he might be saying that the similarity is superficial but follows the same pattern. For example if I say that, ' I eat garri just like a gardener shovels soil into a wheelbarrow', I am not suggesting that there is an indelible connection between the way I eat and the way the gardener works. I'm just saying that visually, superficially the way a garderner works resembles the way I eat.
So Goodness in the way it diffuses itself is similar to the way that light diffuses itself. And perhaps also the way that salt in a cup of water diffuses itself, and a fart in the wind diffuses itself.
Suffering as a starting point for religious practice is a strong argument and in fact one that I totally agree with a embrace.
However I'm not sure whether you mean it as a basis for cosmogony.
|Religion / Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by PastorAIO: 2:19pm On Sep 24|
Men worship Christ. Should you then worship a man as he worships christ? Can you not see how nonsensical you are sounding, just because you want to twist a text whose meaning is quite clear.
|Religion / Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by PastorAIO: 2:18pm On Sep 24|
Yes, we're talking about a girl who threw away her inhaler. You claim that you can have faith without throwing away an inhaler. That is not even a relevant point. What is relevant is that You claim that throwing away her inhaler is a sure sign that she didn't have faith in god.
How is throwing away your inhaler a sign that you don't have faith? Is that not a stupid thing to say? Isn't it daft? Jesus said that a christian should be able to pick up snakes and the bite will be harmless. It's like you've come along and said anybody that touches a snake has no faith in Christ's words.
You desperately want to discredit this pastor, but this is a man we don't know. We have no information about him other than that he is a pastor. Yet you claim that he is not a man of your god. You are just trying to disown him because he is a proven failure, just as you are, but the truth is biting you.
Paul was a man, just like the pastor, and in a passage that made it's way into the jumbled up collection of texts that you worship and revere so much he asked a church to follow him as he followed Christ. You can play your semantics any way you like but that passage puts the lie, Big lie, to your statement that:
The Corinthians Heard from Paul and paul insisted in the passage that they hold on to his teachings.
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|Religion / Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by PastorAIO: 1:31pm On Sep 24|
if you like hear rambling, despicable hypocrite! Everything I said point for point was addressing something that you'd said prior.
I know you cannot make me happy. Bigots can't make me happy, they only rile me up.
You say that you only have Faith because it is faith in God not a person. But you will not accept if a moslem says the same thing.
Meanwhile both you and the moslem haven't spoken to god directly o, you can only make reference to a bible that was written by men no more 'mushroom' than the pastor that you are trying to distance yourself from.
Abi, did God personally give you the bible that you are reading, or did you get it from some 'mushroom' bookstore, as advised by some 'mushroom' religious leaders?
1 Corinthians 11King James Version (KJV)
11 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.
|Religion / Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by PastorAIO: 12:41pm On Sep 24|
You're certainly not here to make me happy. You are here to spread your bigotry. That can't make me happy, and I know that you know that.
By the way, a hypocrite is someone who holds a double standard. Like for instance saying that your religion is true because you have Faith (evidence of what is unseen) but Islam is not true even though that too is based on Faith (evidence of things unseen).
The Gambler too believes in things unseen (or at least he stakes his future on things unseen). What is the difference between a Gamble and your Faith again? Please explain it.
|Religion / Re: Neo Platonism by PastorAIO: 10:08am On Sep 24|
I do not think that early Christianity held a single philosophy either. There were a lot of strands of ideas that were very very tangled up.
|Religion / Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by PastorAIO: 9:34am On Sep 24|
You're talking absolute nonsense.
You are resorting to that typical bigotry that you often resort too. Claiming to know what is the contents of somebody else's heart and whether they are 'true scotsmen' or not. At no point in the story did we hear that the woman had faith in the pastor, she had faith in no one else but God.
I find it despicable, the way people such as you go about victim blaming when it's obvious that you nothing but a scam. When any of your claims fail then you can blame the failure on the victims lack of faith. How disgusting!!!
Yet if she never had an asthma attack ever again you will be the first to jump up and down praising your God who is nothing more that a projection of your bigoted self.
Semantics ko, Jagbajantis ni.
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|Religion / Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by PastorAIO: 11:08am On Sep 23|
Image123:Olboy, let me ask my question again in as simple engrish as I can manage.
I didn't ask you what she had faith IN.
I asked you, and I ask again, Whose Faith did she use to throw away the inhaler? Was it her own personal Faith, or was it a faith she perhaps borrowed from you?
Talk o, whether na you get the faith wey she dey use that is why you are so sure it is not her personal faith.
|Religion / Re: Èjì Ogbè (baba Ifa) by PastorAIO: 7:38am On Sep 23|
yes o, you have an ifa student here. Please continue with part two. Also don't forget to touch on Iyaami and Olokun and the ebo-s of Eji Ogbe.
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|Religion / Re: Every Nigerian Atheist Should Be Outspoken by PastorAIO: 7:19am On Sep 23|
The consistency with which you guys (yeah, you fit into a general type) spout arrogant conceits is truly overwhelming. Why are you talking down to the guy with words like, 'You sound a reasonably bright dude'? Are you so sure that YOU are smart enough to presume to make an assessment of his intelligence? But let's put your revolting arrogance to one side...
You say, rightly, that to make an appraisal of whether something is Good or bad the Appraiser will have to be Omniscient. I agree. Now with what Omniscience did you arrive at the conclusion that God is Good?
|Religion / Re: What Is The Invisible Pink Unicorn Argument? by PastorAIO: 7:04am On Sep 23|
Oya o, where were we? Yes.... What happened to the tabernacle in heaven?
|Religion / Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by PastorAIO: 7:00am On Sep 23|
So whose faith did the lady in question use to throw away the inhaler?
|Religion / Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by PastorAIO: 9:16pm On Sep 22|
I didn't see the word personal in any scripture that you quoted above o! Unless you want to say that the woman we are discussing did not use her own faith to throw away the inhaler. It was HER faith that made her believe that it was okay to throw away her inhaler. abi?
|Religion / Re: What Is The Invisible Pink Unicorn Argument? by PastorAIO: 8:46pm On Sep 22|
Don't worry, you just keep posting your stupidities, I dey your back.
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|Religion / Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by PastorAIO: 8:45pm On Sep 22|
It's okay, you can have the last word. Go on then! I won't respond after this.
|Religion / Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by PastorAIO: 11:40pm On Sep 21|
Who is laughing with this one? you're not even supposed to get it. It's you I'm laughing at, not laughing with. Mumu!!
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|Religion / Re: Money Orisha ~ Money Charm ~ Money Spells by PastorAIO: 11:39pm On Sep 21|
I just noticed that after all what he said at first he then proceeded to offer the lazy man charms to become rich. What a contradiction!
|Religion / Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by PastorAIO: 11:30pm On Sep 21|
If you can draw a cube on a piece of paper for me that is not flat I'll commission you for a lot of money to draw a perfectly obedient and curvaceous wife for me that I can marry tout suite.
|Religion / Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by PastorAIO: 11:27pm On Sep 21|
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|Religion / Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by PastorAIO: 5:54pm On Sep 21|
So when you say the bible is inspired what you mean is that the authors are just airing their various opinions. I agree with you.
Me too, I was inspired this morning to prepare akara and akamu for breakfast instead of corn flakes. The inspiration just hit me and I must say it was a delightful breakfast.
|Religion / Re: Plagiarism In The Bible? by PastorAIO: 4:15pm On Sep 21|
Wait o! He was inspired by God to tell us that what he had to say was not inspired by God. No, we won't get confused.
|Religion / Re: Money Orisha ~ Money Charm ~ Money Spells by PastorAIO: 3:28pm On Sep 21|
I wish our pastors and the christians in nigeria will read this because they are always looking for quick and easy money. None of them wants to work hard to earn their living. Country of beggars.
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|Religion / Re: Odù Ifá: Learn How To Interprete Ifa by PastorAIO: 3:23pm On Sep 21|
What are the ebo of Ejiogbe? especially regarding the Iyami. And also regarding Olokun.
|Religion / Re: What Is The Invisible Pink Unicorn Argument? by PastorAIO: 11:50am On Sep 20|
One of those words that they do not even know the meaning of.
|Religion / Re: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by PastorAIO: 11:39am On Sep 20|
No there isn't!! There is another logical way. That is the way of ATR, most specifically Ifa.
Eledumare created everything. Including the Iyami (witches), the Orisha, The Ajoguns (evil forces), and Elenini (the Detractor/Obstacle dude) etc etc etc ... all the forces.
He also created Esu who governs the interaction between all these forces.
Esu does Eledumare's will of procurring food for all his children/creations. Witches feed on the wicked people. Witches need to eat. How will they find wicked people? Esu can tempt people to wickedness and thus expose them to the witches. Esu is a helper of all the Ajoguns and Eleninis.
But he is also a helper for the righteous, and he helps them achieve their destinies etc. The entire theatre proceeds under the umbrella of the cosmic Law of Eledumare.
In ancient Egypt Horus is in a perpetual struggle with Seth and this drives history. The struggle has a pattern. Sometimes Seth is winning and sometimes Horus is winning. Even that cosmic pattern called the struggle between Horus and Seth can come under threat from a greater disorder. That of Apophis.. So Horus and Set have to get together to fight Apophis.
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