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|Religion / Re: What Is The Meaning Of This Bible Verse? by PastorAIO: 6:05pm On Mar 24|
Sometimes we should just accept that there are contradictions in the bible and then we will not be so confused.
Elijah prayed till he saw a cloud. So for some that means that it's okay to keep praying without head or tail. Although we should release this one because the Praying was of Elijah's own volition and not an instruction from Yahweh. Even Moses who was considered the greatest OT prophet didn't have enough faith to trust Yahweh. Instead of commanding rock to produce water he went and struck the rock with his staff. So it doesn't make sense that we should copy fallible human beings even if they are prophets.
I wonder though. Are there any repetitions that are not vain? Since it is vain (ie worthless) repetitions that Jesus is railing against then maybe there are repetitions that are not so vain in their application. Just musing....
Sometimes I think that since God knows everything before you even ask then the purpose is of Prayer is not for God to be informed of your plight but rather it is solely for the person making the prayer. Maybe it is a way to focus your thoughts etc. Or maybe it is a form of catharsis whereby it is a lot healthier to express whatever is doing you than to just hold it in. I dunno, this is just speculations now.
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|Religion / Re: Three Materials Used For Ifa Initiation by PastorAIO: 9:48pm On Mar 23|
|Religion / Re: The Composite Nature Of Man by PastorAIO: 11:21am On Mar 18|
Yes you're okay.
I was off key. No wahala.
|Religion / Re: The Composite Nature Of Man by PastorAIO: 3:58pm On Mar 17|
Let me clear the mud for you a bit. You came here saying that man is a composite of soul spirit and body, abi?
Man created in God's image does not mean man is composite of tripartite anything.
I put it to you that you are just making up your tripartite composite postulations.
All the questions I've asked you you've failed to answer them. Instead you respond with questions, though I'm generous enough to even answer your questions. Can you answer this question here:
PastorAIO:At the moment, if you say 20 things only one of them can be found in the bible. The rest, 19, are from either your imagination or from some diabolical source.
|Religion / Re: The Composite Nature Of Man by PastorAIO: 3:21pm On Mar 17|
None of these your questions are concerns of mine. If you have anything you want to say about Yahweh in the bible and the creation of Man as told in the bible then I insist that you back up what you are saying with passages from the bible. Otherwise you are just making things up.
From the op to now everything you've said has been pure confection from your imagination. Nothing to do with the bible or Hebrew thought on the matter.
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|Religion / Re: The Composite Nature Of Man by PastorAIO: 2:35pm On Mar 17|
It's not simple and straight anything. You are still just making up doctrines. Yahweh breathed Nismat into Clay and it became a living thing. There is no mention of Ruach in the passage. Can you support anything you've just said from a biblical passage?
and nismat is not 'my nismat'. I am not a hebrew, it is not my language and it is not a concept that I made up. I found it there when I was studying the bible. Please don't give me the ownership of something that I don't own, I cannot afford to offend the owner.
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|Religion / Re: The Composite Nature Of Man by PastorAIO: 2:31pm On Mar 17|
I have no idea. I'm not the Creator. And unlike some people I know, I'm not inclined to pretend to know the things that I don't know.
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|Religion / Re: Logic, Language, Topology, Joshthefirst by PastorAIO: 2:29pm On Mar 17|
I still dey wait o,. It's being like 4 months!
|Religion / Re: The Composite Nature Of Man by PastorAIO: 2:07pm On Mar 17|
Here is a very popular and good resource for studying the bible in it's original languages. I hope you'll find it useful.
|Religion / Re: The Composite Nature Of Man by PastorAIO: 2:04pm On Mar 17|
I believe it was created.
|Religion / Re: The Composite Nature Of Man by PastorAIO: 2:02pm On Mar 17|
It is quite unfortunate that instead of simply answering my questions to follow the point I'm trying to show you you respond with more questions that betray your lack of understanding. N E way I'll be generous and answer your questions.
Was the Bible translated from French? Isnt it from Hebrew?No, the bible was not translated from French it was translated from Hebrew and often a lot gets lost in translation which is why I'm trying to help you by referring you to the original text.
Do I now need the Hebrew Bible to understand scriptures? Must I understand Hebrew to read Bible?It would help you greatly in understanding the scriptures if you made reference to the Hebrew bible. Luckily for you you don't have to go and learn Hebrew before you can study the original hebrew. We live in an information age and all this information is readily available for those that truly seek to be informed.
Is God in natural body form? Isnt He Spirit? Ask yourself in what form was Man created? In what form do we return to God? Answer the questions to help your undertstanding.In answer to you question I'll do you as you do me, I'll respond with a question.
What do you think of this bible verse and it's relevance to what you are asking me?
24And Jacob was left alone. And a man wrestled with him until the breaking of the day. 25When the man saw that he did not prevail against Jacob, he touched his hip socket, and Jacob’s hip was put out of joint as he wrestled with him. 26Then he said, “Let me go, for the day has broken.” But Jacob said, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.” 27And he said to him, “What is your name?” And he said, “Jacob.” 28Then he said, “Your name shall no longer be called Jacob, but Israel,f for you have striven with God and with men, and have prevailed.” 29Then Jacob asked him, “Please tell me your name.” But he said, “Why is it that you ask my name?” And there he blessed him. 30So Jacob called the name of the place Peniel,g saying, “For I have seen God face to face, and yet my life has been delivered.”
And this one:
And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the ... Genesis 3:8
What form was Yahweh in these passages, Physical or non physical?
|Religion / Re: The Composite Nature Of Man by PastorAIO: 12:51pm On Mar 17|
Why are you dribbling yourself like this na?
Forget my version your version KJV whatever. What does the original Hebrew say? Where and when does it use Nismat and where and when does it use Ruah?
|Religion / Re: The Composite Nature Of Man by PastorAIO: 12:49pm On Mar 17|
Men, you can disagree as firmly as you like, as firm as a pharmacy if you like, that doesn't change what the passage is saying. And it is not my postulation it is simply what the passage says.
Nismat is not Ruach. That's all.
What Yahweh breathed into Haadam was Nismat. All living beings have Ruach so it is not something that is unique to Mankind. Therefore these your postulations on composite nature of man are just things that you are making up as you go along.
|Religion / Re: The Composite Nature Of Man by PastorAIO: 11:25am On Mar 17|
Let us do a proper study of the passages you are drawing from.
When Yahweh 'breathed' into Haadam so that he became a living being that was called Nismat. Yes? So Yahweh breathed Nismat into Haadam.
It would be a mistake to conflate Nismat with Ruach. I believe that Ruach is what you are trying to refer to when you talk of the spirit of God and the Spirit of Man. Nismat is just the air that goes into and out of our lungs.
Let us look at Genesis 7:22
22Everything on the dry land in whose nostrils was the breath of life died.
The actual Hebrew says: All that had the Nismat of the Ruah of Life died.
These are two totally different things. So Ruach can Nismat, ie Ruach can breathe. But Ruach is NOT Nismat.
Furthermore we learn that all living beings have this Ruach of Life so it is not something exclusive to humans.
|Religion / Re: The Composite Nature Of Man by PastorAIO: 11:12am On Mar 17|
18I said to myself concerning the sons of men, “God has surely tested them in order for them to see that they are but beasts.” 19For the fate of the sons of men and the fate of beasts is the same. As one dies so dies the other; indeed, they all have the same breath and there is no advantage for man over beast, for all is vanity. 20All go to the same place. All came from the dust and all return to the dust. 21Who knows that the breath of man ascends upward and the breath of the beast descends downward to the earth?
Please where is the differentiation in saying that they all have the same breath and they all go to the same place.
The passage is saying that those who are differentiating the destination (ie such as yourself) are merely speculating and talking about what they do not know.
|Religion / Re: SANKPANA ~ THE TALKING CALABASH by PastorAIO: 2:05am On Mar 17|
Please let us be making sure that we are paying the requisite royalties to the estate of Osamaro Ibie.
You never know......
Heaven knows who will be saved....
|Religion / Re: The Composite Nature Of Man by PastorAIO: 8:17pm On Mar 16|
Why do you say so? What are your reasons?
|Religion / Re: The Composite Nature Of Man by PastorAIO: 8:16pm On Mar 16|
That is not what the passage says!!!
It's a question that is actually an admission of ignorance.
|Religion / Re: Atheists Come And See: The Most Powerful Argument For The Existence Of God by PastorAIO: 5:07pm On Mar 16|
This is quite nonsensical.
Why is everything not consciousness? Including rocks and trees.
Why do you insist that Consciousness is not material? That is the first unfounded thing you say and then base your entire argument on. That makes your argument a baseless argument.
|Religion / Re: The Composite Nature Of Man by PastorAIO: 4:50pm On Mar 16|
What do you think of Ecclesiastes 3:21?
Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth?
|Religion / Re: The Composite Nature Of Man by PastorAIO: 4:45pm On Mar 16|
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|Religion / Re: For Deepsight by PastorAIO: 2:41pm On Mar 15|
How are you sure that the body is the 'visor'? Is the body and your experience of it not a part of the 'simulated reality'? Everything in this so called 'simulated reality' including our body, AND our sense of individuality, distinct person is subject to change. Thus 'taking of' the 'visor'/body has just as much effect on our experience as taking off our underwear. Why should you trust that what ever it is you see on after death is an ultimate reality? Why shouldn't the 'simulated reality' continue?
Furthermore, people don't have to die to get a sense of experiencing a deeper substrate to reality.
And a part of the mystical experiences that people have is a sense of identity not confined to the body but inclusive of the entire universe. A sense that I AM the entire universe.
|Religion / Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by PastorAIO: 10:37am On Mar 09|
You need to find someone to discuss the existence of Jesus with you since it seems that that is what you want to discuss. I was discussing the obvious hoaxes in the bible.
|Religion / Re: Olokun Great Goddess Of The Sea ~ Worship, Divinations, Initiations, Invocations by PastorAIO: 10:30am On Mar 09|
Ok o! So maybe olokun adherents were displeasing olokun too.
Abi? Or is what is good for the gander not good for the good again?
|Religion / Re: Pope Leo X And His Most Infamous Declaration About Christianity!a Must Read! by PastorAIO: 8:09pm On Feb 21|
^^ God gave the world malaria and HIV?
There is about as much evidence here as there is that God created the universe.
|Religion / Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by PastorAIO: 10:23pm On Jan 02|
Please you'll have to show me where I said so. I was quoting John's gospel. That is where I read it. Abi is John's gospel 'vomit' from a 'spirit of deception'?
Since you have given yourself the position of teacher. Oya teach. I asked a simple straightforward question.
Why did Jesus Say that if they withhold forgiveness then the forgiveness is withheld?
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|Religion / Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by PastorAIO: 9:46pm On Jan 02|
So why did Jesus say if they withhold it is withheld. Or is there another meaning to 'withhold' that we don't know.
I am presuming, since you fail miserably at answering direct questions, that you believe that apostles cannot withhold forgiveness.
|Religion / Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by PastorAIO: 9:09pm On Jan 02|
You make it sound like it is a crime to dissect or split a sentence. Why do you think that you are so apprehensive about a detailed investigation?
Please make it clear for me. Is it possible for Jesus' apostles to withhold forgiveness or not? simple question.
|Religion / Re: Hell Exists Because God Loves You by PastorAIO: 8:44pm On Jan 02|
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NO MAN CAN FORGIVE YOU YOUR SINS AGAINST GOD WHEN YOU ARE YET IN SIN. God first forgives you ON THE SPOT the moment you confess and forsake your sin and then the disciples can assure you of your SALVATION or FORGIVENESS.
What if the apostle decides to withhold forgiveness?
If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld.”
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