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Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 8:05pm On Jul 05
felixomor:


Please go to google, its ur number one textbook. They abound.

I don't need to google it. I'm quite sure that there is no detective in this world that solved a case by reading the bible. The last time bible was used to resolve cases in civilised nations it caused an outcry that still resonates to this day.

I think of cases such as the Salem Witch Trials. A case of extreme crhristian backwardness and bigotry.

I think of cases such as the Child Witch scandal in Nigeria. Another case of extreme christian stupidity and backwardness.

If you like go to a civilised court and base your case on the bible. then come and tell us how you fared.

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Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 7:59pm On Jul 05
felixomor:


God almighty!
Please which year was forrest gump written?
That you are using it to compare with a book of several authors across different milleniums, who wrote about things long before they were verified. Just because u want to make illustration, doesnt mean u should commit all fallacies at the same time.

Chaii, its over.
Movies have killed brains?

This guy cannot even follow the argument.

Forrest gump was a work of fiction written 2 decades ago that makes Reference to many historical events including events that occurred in the 60s before the film was written.


Bibe is a work of fiction written as you say over many centuries that makes reference to many historical events including events that occurred before the works were written.

Conclusion: The fact that a literary work makes reference to actual historical events does not mean that the literary work cannot be a work of fiction.

I'm trying to break it down for you as simply as possible yet I fear that it'll probably still go over your head.
Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 3:15pm On Jul 05
felixomor:


Clearly u r d daft one. Sorry to say
I purposely allowed u to repeat that the bible is "unverified". Loud enough.
because if u were industrious enough to simply use google.
U will get to know that so many archeological sites from the bible have been verified.
So many prophecies foretold and even bible codes have been used by detectives to crack cases.

So, keep magnifying ur ignorance by stating in front of millions of people, by calling the bible "unverified".
Even the devil will laugh at you.

Did you know that the fictitious novel that I read the other day also makes mention of many cities that actually exist? In fact it incorporates a lot of historical events. I even watched one film, Forrest Gump, a work of fiction about a daft guy (hmmm) who met many historical people even presidents and was present at many historical events like the shooting of Kennedy, and vietnam war.

You might doubt that Forrest Gump is a true story, mumu, you should google Vietnam War and Assassination of Kennedy and you will see that these events were real.

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Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 3:09pm On Jul 05
felixomor:


Clearly u r d daft one. Sorry to say
I purposely allowed u to repeat that the bible is "unverified". Loud enough.
because if u were industrious enough to simply use google.
U will get to know that so many archeological sites from the bible have been verified.
So many prophecies foretold and even bible codes have been used by detectives to crack cases.

So, keep magnifying ur ignorance by stating in front of millions of people, by calling the bible "unverified".
Even the devil will laugh at you.

You are drunk or hallucinating. How can I repeat 'unverified' when I never said it in the first place?

You probably don't know what the word repeat actually means. I wouldn't be surprised.

Anyway, while we're here could you please tell me of one such case that detectives cracked from reading the bible.
Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 1:09pm On Jul 05
felixomor:


Wow.
Somebody said he is not heading for "perdition", at the same time he is not heading for "safety"
Sounds like d person who said u can be "dead" and some how be "alive"
And the person says he understands english very well.
Period.
That says it all.

Are you doing this intentionally or are you actually just daft? When has anything here got to do with me? Or where I'm heading? Or are you trying to change the subject?

felixomor:

"Unverified" yet best selling books. over 5 billion people who believe, and still counting must be less intelligent.
Wow, there are geniuses here.

You were daft enough to say that the bible's 'unverifiedness' is mitigated by it's being a best seller and also the fact that 5 billion people believe it automatically makes it okay to be 'unverified'.
No wonder you think everyone else here is a genius.
Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 12:33pm On Jul 05
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felixomor:


Wow, it was a simple question.


No it wasn't! It was a stupidd question based on a heap of false premises.

U said a group of people are heading to "perdition".
Actually it was Jesus that said so. I was just repeating what was in the bible.

For you to have said that, it means you as a person was heading to the opposite direction.
First, Jesus said it. Secondly it doesn't mean that I'm headed in any direction at all. It simply means that I can follow the inferences of what Jesus said in the bible. You obviously can't.


So I asked, you that is heading for the opposite direction, how are u better?

Well at least I can think and follow an argument. That makes me obviously better than you in that department.



Simple question, simply tell us how u were better of than those u claim are being "misled"
English is not hard my brother.

Apparently it is hard for you.

I'll repeat for the hard of hearing. Jesus said you are many that are going to hell fire. And you meanwhile are feeling proud of being many.

And then, I can say for sure that I've got superior comprehension skills to the person who is 'misled'. Why? Because such a person cannot tell the difference between my saying that he has been MISLED in calling me an Atheist or claiming that I said I was richer than anyone else, and my saying that Jesus said that the road to perdition is for the masses and many are they that find it. Such deficiency in english comprehension skills
cannot even be found in my pre teens relatives.



Moreover, its like u know the size of "heaven's boat" that you know that 5 billion people is too much, Wow, great!


Well sha, with a global population of about 6 billion people I can state confidently that that's a pretty big boat.
Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 10:51am On Jul 05
felixomor:


And you that is fast tracking to aethistic "safety", what have you discovered? Or how are you richer than these over 5 billion people who have believed the bible?
Wow, I laff out loud in full.

Well the 5 billion people, if they really do believe the bible, will realise that they are on the wrong boat because 5 billion people is too many for the particular boat that they are hoping to catch.

And some further corrections… I'm not an Atheist, One. And, two, I never said I was richer than anyone so wherever you keep getting these deluded claims stop going there. They are misleading you.

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Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 9:14am On Jul 05
OgundeleT:

how does that prove it was verified? beside, what is world population that 5billion will believe in your babble. some Christians can lie

LOL! I didn't even clock the stupidity of the claim. 5 billion!! Inside a global population of how many?
Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 9:13am On Jul 05
felixomor:


Wow, somebody here is quoting Jesus, Alleluaih somebody. cool

Halleluyams!! And Jesus is still right while YOU are still wrong.

The fact remains, you and your host of 5 billion are fast tracking to perdition.
Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 1:17am On Jul 05
winner01:
You make your arguments, you refute them yourself. If you notice, ive made one single point all along: This thread is to expose the murderous tendencies of atheists. You can translate that to whatever you will.


A screenshot of atheist Chad Horton cheering on the deaths of Christians. Horton also uses Fred Phelps as a strawman for Christianity despite the fact that most mainstream faith groups condemn the WBC:

So are they, the westboro church, christians or are they not christians? You say Chad whoever is cheering the death of christians. And then you say they are not christians, or they are condemned by christians. Make up your mind then come back and I'll tell you what I think about it.
Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 1:13am On Jul 05
felixomor:


"Unverified" yet best selling books. over 5 billion people who believe, and still counting must be less intelligent.
Wow, there are geniuses here.

What has verified got to do with best selling? Aren't the biggest bestsellers not fiction?

Plus, having a majority doesn't mean that you're more intelligent. Majority doesn't mean intelligent. And even Jesus said that many are they that find the path to perdition. And that is true. Your so called popularity is a condemning fact.
Religion / Re: Nairaland Atheists , Is This Man Good Or Evil After Doing All These ? by PastorAIO: 8:19pm On Jul 04
PastorAIO:

That would be a matter of competence rather than inherent evil.

Now if Mao set out with evil intentions that would be one thing, but if he actually had good intentions but incompetently ended up causing evil then how will the jury decide whether he is inherently good or evil.

There are other issues here that I don't think the op has fully reflected on. there is more depth to this issue of Good or evil that I don't think the OP is even aware of.

Staying on this matter of incompetence. What would you call a being that creates a world and puts humans in it with the intention that these humans will praise him forever and ever, Yet the outcome is different, The outcome comprises of the majority of humans created being burnt eternally in hell fire, after living a miserable life of confused ignorance, while the few that fulfil the original plan of praising the lard eternally do so after living a miserable life of confused ignorance?

Would you call this being competent or incompetent?
Religion / Re: Nairaland Atheists , Is This Man Good Or Evil After Doing All These ? by PastorAIO: 4:19pm On Jul 04
A Christian would say that he is evil because christians believe that All humans are evil. 'No one is good not one".

But it seems from the tone of the OP that he is trying to claim that he is Good while Mao is evil. Or at least that mao is more evil than himself.


I personally think that all humans are a mixture of good and evil and that, to make matters worse, Sometimes we create evil with the Best Intentions and other times we create Good while we actually intended evil.

That would be a matter of competence rather than inherent evil.

Now if Mao set out with evil intentions that would be one thing, but if he actually had good intentions but incompetently ended up causing evil then how will the jury decide whether he is inherently good or evil.

There are other issues here that I don't think the op has fully reflected on. there is more depth to this issue of Good or evil that I don't think the OP is even aware of.

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Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 4:09pm On Jul 04
dalaman:


Thrash. Coming from someone whose God advocates for the death and destruction of others that worshipped other Gods. This is shameful. Your God remains the source of inspiration for all militant atheist.


I will make Mount Seir utterly desolate, killing off all who try to escape and any who return. I will fill your mountains with the dead. Your hills, your valleys, and your streams will be filled with people slaughtered by the sword. I will make you desolate forever. Your cities will never be rebuilt. Then you will know that I am the LORD. (Ezekiel 35:7-9)

More than Trash. Pitiful Trash.

Atheism is a stand point of human on the question of God's existence. Human's do very many nasty things. Genocide is in keeping with human character since historical records have begun.

However the OP is of the belief that his religion is not of human source. It shouldn't succumb to all the typical things that humans do. However we find that it is in fact absolutely human in every dimension. Nothing transcendental about christianity at all, neither doctrinally or historically when you take a close look at the history. You realise that this is just a human institution doing all the nasty things that human institutions have always done whether theist or atheist.

Demonstrating that the evils of christianity are no worse than those of Atheists makes a very resounding point: Christianity is a purely human affair. No god business inside.

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Religion / Re: The Salvation Plan by PastorAIO: 9:55pm On Jun 30
UyiIredia:


I take it you support what Seun wrote.

No!? I just think that he should break down what he means, point by point.

Isn't that a good thing in a discussion?
Religion / Re: The Salvation Plan by PastorAIO: 7:01pm On Jun 30
MizyB:


If this is what you believed as the salvation plan when you were a Christian for "years"., then its no shock you backslid.


Could you please show us where he went wrong? Thank you.

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Religion / Re: Preach God Everywhere - Francis Of Assissi by PastorAIO: 9:44am On Jun 28
KAG:


Works pay more dividends than talk. Actions speak louder than words. Those are two expressions that come to mind when I read the attributed quote. In my opinion, St. Francis was advocating something I think many Christians forget: behaving "Christ-like" is probably the best way to show people the validity of the Gospels. Essentially, acting with love is a better witness to the love of Christ in a person than simply talking about love and not necessarily showing the evidence of such supposedly live changing love in one's life.

Two pence.

cool
Religion / Re: Soundbites by PastorAIO: 9:42am On Jun 28
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Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 8:28am On Jun 28
Thank you.

senbonzakurakageyoshi:
Well, this was a difficult thread to go through. I mean, I've read through a lot of threads on the religion board but this had to be the one that I had the most difficulty reading through. Too many screenshots, too many lists, not enough points made. And I'm a Christian, so from the topic I can gather where the OP was going with this thread.

First off, this is what I'll say. Terrible people are terrible people. It's not a competition for the most terrible. There are terrible theists as there are terrible atheists. Same applies for stupidity, ignorance, intolerance and hate. It's not a function of religion or lack of. It's a function of mentality and personality. So this long tirade about who has done worse in history is getting us nowhere.

If an atheist commits a crime and feels justified about it, it's not a product of his lack of religion. It's a product of his lack of respect for stated law and a moral compass. I have a few atheist friends and they are strongly moral. They see something they feel within themselves is wrong and they admit it's wrong. Just as there are theists out there who commit crimes and justify their criminal behavior or tendencies with the same religion that's supposed to give them a moral compass. This is just silly. Bad people are bad people. Stupid people are stupid people. Ignorant people are ignorant people. Religion,race or/and political affiliation have no bearing on that. So this is all just so pointless. Ugh!

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Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 12:13pm On Jun 26
thehomer:


Please state your argument.

Her argument, I think, is something like this. It goes as follows: Since it has already been established that christians past and present have been murderous villains, she hopes to ameliorate the sheer disgrace and shame of her history by pointing the finger to others. Its like the thief that got caught and his defence was 'sebi others are stealing too nah?'.

It's just an attempt to deflect attention from her filth. If you notice there has been a sudden increase of threads attacking atheism. While I will agree that atheists have become quite militant and organised against religion, the roots of it have not been investigated thoroughly. This is my opinion on what is going on, historically.

There have always been atheists who just ignore religion and go about their lives jejely. This is still the case with the majority of atheists, some of them you'll be shocked when you even find out that they are atheists. Some still attend church because they love the liturgy and the music but they don't believe.

Then sometime in the early years of this millennium ( or maybe even in the 90s) Science was making some astonishing breakthroughs with Stem Cell research. They even created a lamb called Dolly. The backlash from religion was extreme, to put it mildly. I remember listening to some people chatting about it and someone said that the lamb would be possessed by demons and that's how it is animated. The level of contempt shocked me.

It was shortly after this that people like Dawkins started to rise with their anti religion rhetoric. Many people say, and I agree, that Religion VS Science is a false dichotomy however from the way things have been playing out in the last 20 years it doesn't feel like that. It feels like Religion has taken it upon itself to be antagonistic towards scientific progress. (actually come to think of it they have been like this for centuries).

The attack back at religion from scientists wearing masks of atheism has shaken many religious people to their core, especially with the use of internet and social media. Off line christians can influence legislation and force the government to withdraw funding from Stem Cell research. But online christians have to flee into and under every crevice and rock that they can find.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/14/booming/the-clone-named-dolly.html?_r=0

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Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 6:07pm On Jun 25
winner01:


sebi was the only word worth noticing though.

Pathetic.
Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 6:11pm On Jun 24
KingEbukaNaija:


Oh , those were points ? Wow ! Well , the only thing that caught my eye in what you wrote was the 'sebi' .

Should have gone to specsavers

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Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 5:08pm On Jun 24
KingEbukaNaija:


Its shebi , not sebi . Are you yoruba ? smiley

See desperation!! You mean when oyinbo came to your village to make your native tongue literate, you were not around? You should have paid heed then you'd know how to write in your language. Ṣebi na Question for yoruba language, not shebi. Yet if I call you semiliterate you'll start crying.

Meanwhile all of this is just a distraction to mask the points that I made which are biting you in your anus.

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Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 3:42pm On Jun 24
felixomor:


Oh my God.
I have never seen a statement so out of context.
Even newspapers can be read out of context to create any meaning one likes. Its very easy to do.
If u like read the bible upside down or rather put the last page before the first one or read it out of context. The truth stares u in the face.

Sebi we're discussing. You ought to tell me what the proper context is so we can know.

This is the context I understand. Please tell me where I'm wrong:

The bible says that those that don't listen to God's representatives should be put to death.

Someone responded that they take their judgements from the life of Christ instead, which suggests to me that they are dismissing the bible passage as inferior to life of Christ.

I then responded that the so called Life of Christ is itself derived from the bible.

You tell me that that is out of context. How? Please what is the proper context.

Or better still, tell me, where did you get all your information about the life of christ if not from the bible?
Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 12:32pm On Jun 24
winner01:
We are christ-ians, we can make our judgements from the life of christ. I've told dalaman this.


I thought that the judgements were made from the bible. And even the stories of christ themselves are derived from the bible. Unless you have another source for Christ's life other than the bible.
Religion / Re: The Salvation Plan by PastorAIO: 12:13pm On Jun 24
joseph1832:
Good lord! I must say I find your words rather threatening, and if I'm feeble minded, I would be scared. Please know that I'm not an atheist. I've never for once opined that I am one, but one thing I know for sure is, in all my life on this planet, I've barely seen a christian who is like christ, or even that what christian mean? All I've seen are two toed liars and thieves, as well as hypocrites and cretinous individuals, who wear the garment of religion, to perpetuate their nonsensical agendas.

As I learned man, I've asked questions, and those questions have been left unanswered. I'm smart enough to know what is real, what is right, and what is not.

I'll tell you know, I respect Jesus for all he stood for, his teachings and doings, but one thing I don't respect and yes, I hate is the modern day church!.

Bingo!
Religion / Re: The Salvation Plan by PastorAIO: 12:10pm On Jun 24
GeneralShepherd:
This thread exposes the hypocrisy that is rife in Nairaland. Seun willingfully scorns the whole Christian faith, mocks the cornerstone of the sacrifice of Jesus yet in another thread he created on the Muslim section where he asked for the appropriate punishment for apostates, he couldn't even challenge Muslims that clearly endorse the killing of apostates.

When I wanted to reply, I was shocked to learn that I will need to accept Islam before I can comment in that section.

If this isn't hypocrisy, I wonder what is. I am atheist but this leaves a sour taste in my mouth about the modalities of nairaland. Christians can be mocked for their faith that rarely leads to loss of lives while Islam is above reproach!

Utterly disgusting!!!

But don't you think that just asking the question and hearing the mendacious nasty answers makes the point already to any discerning person.

Must it always be spelt out.
Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 11:42pm On Jun 23
dalaman:



Kill People Who Don’t Listen to Priests


Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12


And therein lies Rev King's defence.
Religion / Re: The Salvation Plan by PastorAIO: 7:01pm On Jun 22
karleone:


It all depends on the mind with which you read it. Most times, atheists read to make them more atheist [that is, the read just to find more reasons to hate God]. If only we study the scriptures with the mind of an innocent child seeking the truth, through the guidance of the Holy Spirit, we'll always find the scripture a company in our journey of faith.

So how were you reading it that it made you become an atheist?
Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 5:36pm On Jun 22
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Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 2:27pm On Jun 22
winner01:
Okay sir.

Without the Theodosian Code of Christianity, the very issues that Bakker condemns would still be legal: http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/9985571743.html

I don't really get what you are driving at. it seems Bakker is angry with some pedophiles. So what?

did Theodosius make pedophilia illegal? Are you saying that Theodosius set the standard for what christianity is? I thought you got that from the bible. If not please say, so that I know whether to refer to Theodosian Code next time I discuss with you.
Religion / Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by PastorAIO: 2:20pm On Jun 22
winner01:
What I'm driving at is simple. Atheism is not always peaceful.


You are very right, and I agree. And religion is not always violent. However there is another tacit point that you probably don't realise that you are making. That is that Human nature is prone to violence and that Religion does nothing to curb this, no religion despite the claims of many can actually change man and give him a 'new nature' as some claim. Humanity will always remain very human, being something quite noble and empathetic and other times quite nasty and violent.

In other words, just as all these atheistic ideologies are man made and show all the characteristics of humanity in their history, so it is with religions, all man made and all showing the typical characteristics of humanity in their history.

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