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|Religion / Re: What Is A God? by PastorAIO: 6:48pm|
Possibly… anyone who has any dominion over any part of the universe no matter how small is a god.
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|Religion / Re: Contra Bibliolatreia I Mark 10:5 by PastorAIO: 6:18pm|
Without a doubt I have a beef against 'bible based' christianity.
In fact I have a beef against any religion that is based on any text.
Then when that text is blatantly obviously written by men and even within the text there is an admission from the highest authority in the religion (Jesus in christianity) that a part of the text was written by a human precisely as a compromise for human recalcitrance I am left flabbergasted that people still walk around claiming that the text is the basis of their religion and that it was given directly by God. What Nonsense!
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|Religion / Re: Why Is It Necessary To Appeal To God For Objective Morals? by PastorAIO: 5:37pm|
Any subjective morality we set for ourselves can only be arbitrary.
Who then is to say which moral code is to be followed.
Followed by who? Why should everybody follow one single moral code?
It is only God's absolute morality that is universal and is already written in our consciences.
You don't really believe this, i don't think. you're just saying it because you read something like it somewhere. Think about what you're saying.
|Religion / Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will NEVER Be A Christian Again. by PastorAIO: 10:33am On May 03|
It's not just the Truth but it's the only truth. Nothing else is true.
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|Religion / Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will NEVER Be A Christian Again. by PastorAIO: 7:39pm On May 02|
What are the chances that one assumption is true when there are an infinite number of other equally valid assumptions?
1 ÷ ∞ = 1/∞
That is an infinitesimal chance, as close as you'd get to zero and still be a possibility.
We can also look at it like this. What if the world is not the product of a single Will? This is more interesting.
Even if there were only One God perhaps he was conflicted. He had a number of wills. He wanted to create a world full of free willed creatures, but then he wanted to make sure that they did exactly his bidding. The conflict of these two Impulses/Wills resulted in the dog's breakfast we call Life today.
There is plenty of evidence that God can experience conflict of wills. He made man and then just before the flood he repented that he made Man. He does so many things and then repents of doing them. So obviously there are more than one single impulse in him that drives him to do the things he does like e.g Creating worlds.
In this case it doesn't matter how many Gods there are. Many Gods that have one will and one purpose are indistinguishable but one God with many conflicting wills, now that's very very interesting.
|Religion / Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will NEVER Be A Christian Again. by PastorAIO: 6:51pm On May 02|
What you should do is go to his profile and when you get there click on his 'posts'. That will take you to all his posts that he has posted in the last few days. That way you can read all his posts without reading the nonsense that has been interjected on the thread. This is how I read some posts when there are too many people involved.
His story will be there all in one page.
|Religion / Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will NEVER Be A Christian Again. by PastorAIO: 11:19am On May 02|
I think I get what many here have been wanting the OP to get to.
They were waiting for some traumatic event in the story of the op that would explain his change of beliefs.
Armed with such a traumatic incident they can explain away his apostasy by saying that it's an emotional reaction.
As the op told the story though it seems that it was a slow process of rational evaluation. Very unsatisfying.
|Religion / Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will NEVER Be A Christian Again. by PastorAIO: 2:44am On May 02|
You hit the nail on the head right there and that is the mistake many theists on NL are making. They are so desperate to win the argument that they resort to all sorts of underhand methods and aggressive yabbis. What they don't realise is that it is not just the people they are arguing with, nor even just the members of this forum, that are reading the posts and getting influenced. It is everybody that comes to NL mostly guests. These christians do so much for the spread of atheism with their inanities in their attempts to counter atheism.
Just make your points. Ask pertinent questions that strike right at the heart of a matter. Then Let the Religionists rage and hurl inanities at you. Once they do that, then your job is done. seeds have been planted. The failure of the apologists to logically respond is made clear for all to see.They will factor that into their own soul searching.
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|Religion / Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will NEVER Be A Christian Again. by PastorAIO: 11:07pm On May 01|
If sarcasm were to jump up and slap you in the face would you even recognise it.
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|Religion / Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will NEVER Be A Christian Again. by PastorAIO: 10:16pm On May 01|
You're right, I do not know you, neither do i care to know you. My concern is with what pertains on this thread.
I don't see any mind games. What's wrong with someone forming an opinion about christians and then saying, 'the thing with u christians...'?
The guy he accused of using upper keys, did he actually use upper keys or was he falsely accused?
I don't see any mind games in those 2 cases you gave. Calling someone out for unnecessary use of upper case letters is just what it is and not a mind game.
|Religion / Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will NEVER Be A Christian Again. by PastorAIO: 8:16pm On May 01|
Three times you responded to my post and not once did you answer my question.
Abeg where did you see him using psychology to frustrate christians by delay tactics?
I don't know what you mean by serious business competing for lost soul. Maybe you're confused about my mention of Joseph1013. Joseph is just another former staunch preacher of christianity that has opened up a thread dedicated to explaining his atheism to religious people. I meant that this thread is going to give his own thread a run for his money. A prospect that I suspect he will actually approve off.
Please answer my question that I asked you, if you care?
|Religion / Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will NEVER Be A Christian Again. by PastorAIO: 7:19pm On May 01|
Please, where did you see the above happen. If anything the frustration for his delays have come from atheists who want to hear the rest of his story.
p.s. Joseph1013 Someone is giving you a run for your money here o!
|Religion / Re: Why Is It Necessary To Appeal To God For Objective Morals? by PastorAIO: 7:07pm On May 01|
I know what objective morality is! That's not what I asked.
I asked: Why MUST morality be objective? In other words, why is subjective morality so unsatisfactory for you?
|Religion / Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will NEVER Be A Christian Again. by PastorAIO: 7:01pm On May 01|
I think that his point is that what marks one hell from the other is the qualification process. So hell is hell but his point is that you are very well qualified for Hell from the Islamic viewpoint. So you ought to be extremely worried for your fate as you feel he should be worried for his fate.
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|Religion / Re: Why Is It Necessary To Appeal To God For Objective Morals? by PastorAIO: 6:41pm On May 01|
Which of my many questions are you failing to answer here?
|Religion / Re: Why Is It Necessary To Appeal To God For Objective Morals? by PastorAIO: 6:38pm On May 01|
And now that you have objective morality, does yours wash with the moral code of others? Are others following your objective moral code?
|Religion / Re: From Pastor To Atheist: Why I Will NEVER Be A Christian Again. by PastorAIO: 6:36pm On May 01|
Every now and again a thread comes along in nairaland that makes sticking around worthwhile.
What a sweet thread!!?
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|Religion / Re: Why Do Some People Suspect The Current Israel Nationals Are Imposters? by PastorAIO: 1:14pm On Apr 30|
Okay, when you get less busy I look forward to seeing attached scriptures. Thank you.
|Religion / Re: Why Do Some People Suspect The Current Israel Nationals Are Imposters? by PastorAIO: 11:32am On Apr 29|
I'm happy to stick to the bible on this subject even though I totally disagree that christianity is based on a book, the bible.
So you're still asking what's my point. Yet you failed to see or address any of the points that I've already pointed out to you.
Do you want me to number them? Or give them bullet points?
All my points above are based from the bible. You haven't answered them.
In the meantime can you yourself give us the biblical basis for you claims. You said:
Where does the bible say that Jewish men may marry outside but Jewish women no?
If you cannot answer this question then you have just exposed yourself because you said:
Are you a fake christian?
|Religion / Re: Why Do Some People Suspect The Current Israel Nationals Are Imposters? by PastorAIO: 2:11pm On Apr 28|
The point is that we are discussing Jews and Israel and you came to contribute absolute poo saying things like there is no pure blooded jew anymore and Jews need to be pure blooded.
I then demonstrated to you from the bible that the 'jews' that followed Moses were not pure blooded from the beginning.
I also demonstrated to you from the bible that Abraham their father was himself an Iraqi.
I demonstrated from the bible that many foreigners joined the Israelites and got circumcised.
I then pointed to jewish traditions that tell us that you are not born a jew unless your mother is a jew. if you father is a jew and not your mother then you are not a born jew (though you can convert when you get older). This demonstrates that you were talking poo when you said things like jewish men can marry outside but not the women. There is more pressure in fact on Jewish men to marry a jewish woman if they want their children to be jewish and less pressure on the women. This is a fact.
It is a part of the circumcision ritual that when the foreskin has been cut the rabbi will put the joystick in his mouth. This tradition of theirs has even become such big news recently due to some babies being infected with std that I'm surprised that anybody missed it.
|Religion / Re: Why Is It Necessary To Appeal To God For Objective Morals? by PastorAIO: 11:36am On Apr 28|
I don't know how this pertains to the questions that I asked. Or are you just changing the issue?
|Religion / Re: Why Is It Necessary To Appeal To God For Objective Morals? by PastorAIO: 11:35am On Apr 28|
I know what objective morality is.
What I asked was Why is it so imperative that our Morality must be objective?
|Religion / Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by PastorAIO: 2:08am On Apr 28|
crase man. I beg, I concede. You are right. Profile is equal to definition.
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|Religion / Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by PastorAIO: 1:18am On Apr 28|
Something I keep forgetting but is worth your while remembering is that a lot of these guys do not actually know the meanings of 90 per cent of the words they use.
I don't think he understand what you mean when you ask for a definition.
A definition is not a profile. you may get the profile of Chelsea fc from the official website, but you won't get the definition of Chelsea fc from the website.
You don't get the definition of any word you've used from any external source. You spoke a word. We presume that you know what you intended to refer to when you used the word. If you cannot provide a definition for yourself from your own brain then that means that you had no idea what you were talking about before you used the word.
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|Religion / Re: Why Do Some People Suspect The Current Israel Nationals Are Imposters? by PastorAIO: 1:07am On Apr 28|
Who is we? Are you a jew?
|Religion / Re: Why Do Some People Suspect The Current Israel Nationals Are Imposters? by PastorAIO: 10:35pm On Apr 27|
This is a known fact about jews. I tire to argue. Abeg, if you want confirmation, go and ask a jew.
|Religion / Re: Why Do Some People Suspect The Current Israel Nationals Are Imposters? by PastorAIO: 10:33pm On Apr 27|
Are you calling Judaism Lowlife degenerate?
Metzitzah b'peh is a Jewish religious male circumcision ceremony performed by on the eighth day of a male infant's life. Sometimes seen as controversial since it in its traditional form involves the circumciser briefly sucking on the joystick afterwards which has been argued to cause a risk of transmitting herpes.http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Metzitzah_b'peh
Dude, if you want to be a jew they will cut your tin and then you'll get a bj. That's the process. No be me invent the ritual.
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|Religion / Re: Why Do Some People Suspect The Current Israel Nationals Are Imposters? by PastorAIO: 10:23pm On Apr 27|
|Religion / Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by PastorAIO: 10:20pm On Apr 27|
|Religion / Re: Why Is It Necessary To Appeal To God For Objective Morals? by PastorAIO: 10:14pm On Apr 27|
Only God can impose a subjective moral code on others. Okay.
Why must you impose your moral code, subjective or objective, on others?
Will it pain you if you can't impose your moral code on others? If so, why so?
He created us in his image so he can impose his morality on us abi?
Biko, why did he then not want us to have knowledge of Good and Evil, according to your source?
Why wasn't the moral code automatic when he made us in his image, instead Man had to eat the knowledge of good and evil first?
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|Religion / Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by PastorAIO: 8:10pm On Apr 27|
Thank you for the benediction.
|Religion / Re: Dialectics Of Violence And Morality by PastorAIO: 8:02pm On Apr 27|
Well I was at the end of the universe and I tried to imagine what was on the other side of the wall but all I could imagine was empty space, but I knew that was not true because there couldn't even be space on the other side. In the end my attempts to figure it out was just an exercise in futility.
It is either that I am too daft to answer or I am evading. Only a great true and approved omniscient one like you can know for true. I don't believe there can be a tactic that you are not aware off. You're too intelligent!! I know I'm stupiddd, but trust me, I'm not Stupiddd enough to try to outsmart you. I've learnt that lesson, at least.
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