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Religion / Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by PastorAIO: 5:41pm On May 19
Riofidelio:
Yes Sir! That's simple, it's like Adults everywhere are no more attracted to minors except amongst Jehovah's witnesses ONLY. grin grin grin Instead of asking important questions that's going to help you recognize those observing Jesus' words,your main focus is why are some "imperfect" humans like you (who are trying to put away the old personality) are still been accused of wrongdoings.Wonders shall never end!

The way you ducked my question is very suspicious. I didn't ask about any individuals. I asked if you could shed light about the JW organisation and it's attitude to pedophilia. Automatically you go on the defensive. This suggests that you are hiding something.

I have been studying the JW for a few months now and uncovered some very disturbing issues. It is a damning indictment on you that you do not consider this 'important questions'.

I have heard tales of cover ups within the organisation. And also tales of mind control at an institutional level. Not individuals but the organisation itself. Even going back as far as the proclivities of the founder of the organisation.


Again I ask you, please, can you shed light on pedophilia and how it is handled within the JW organisation?
Religion / Re: Who Are Jehovah’s Witnesses? by PastorAIO: 12:12pm On May 19
Can anyone shed some light on Pedophilia in the Jehovah's Witness organisation?

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Religion / Re: Is The Hebrew Monotheistic Belief A Product Of Religious Syncretism? by PastorAIO: 12:16pm On May 13
JMAN05:


Since both you and other members of different churches do not respect the bible command to cut association with an unrepentant sinner, it is not strange while you side the wrong part.

The question you need to be asking is: does the bible support disfellowshiping? To what extent ? For a start, read 1cor 5:1-11. Instead of attacking the organization, open your eyes to what the bible says, that is what the JWs believe.

It is wrong to comment on a case that you just heard just one aide of the story. Even in a law court, that isn't wise. You need to hear from those who judged the case, and also the husband too. Prov 18:13 "When anyone replies to a matter before he hears the facts,It is foolish and humiliating"


PastorAIO:
this is what that Pedophile, Charles Taze Russell has to say about the Bible, compared to his own 'Scripture Studies'.


Sept. 15, 1910 issue of Watch Tower, p. 298, Russell writes: “Not only do we find that people cannot see the divine plan in studying the Bible by itself, but we see also that if anyone lays the 'Scripture Studies' aside, even after he has used them, after he has become familiar with them, after he has read them for ten years – if he then lays them aside and ignores them and goes to the Bible alone, though he has understood his Bible for ten years, our experience shows that within two years he goes into darkness. On the other hand, if he had merely read the 'Scripture Studies' with their references and not read a page of the Bible as such, he would be in the light at the end of two years, because he would have the light of the scriptures.”

He is saying that you'll get the truth in his own writing only, but if you read only the bible you'll be lost.

Yet you JWs have the gall to say that you hold the bible in high regard as written by God. Hypocrites. Parasites.

You now want to accuse me of not being a bible worshipper as if it is a new discovery when I'd always spoken openly about what the bible is to me. Hypocrites and parasites.

You mistranslate the bible in order to twist it to fit your man made ideas and then start to somersault and duck when I ask you a simple question about the meaning of Ego Eimi in english. Pedophiles and Lying Hypocrites!!

The world should be warned about you.


You claim bible in the presence of the world but deep inside you carry all sorts of unbiblical doctrines and twist and lie on the bible to accomodate your nasty pedophile doctrines.




1Likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word, they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives,
1 Peter 3


14For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his believing wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but now they are holy.
1 Corinthians 7

Apart from the book of Ezra, there is nowhere in the bible where the breaking up of families is promoted as a doctrine.

Of course it is only to be expected that you'll twist the bible. The passage from which you draw support for the ghastly and nefarious acts of the JW cult actually refers to sexual immorality and dissociating from them. However like the example I presented showed, the woman was 'disfellowshipped' for being a victim of violent domestic abuse and complaining about it.

What a nasty cult!!

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Religion / Re: Which Bible Character Will You Want To Spend A Day With by PastorAIO: 5:08pm On Apr 27
Jezebel sounds like a lot of fun.

and Delilah.

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Religion / Re: I Need Your Advice, Please. by PastorAIO: 9:17pm On Apr 21
ccarefulwind2:


Oh i see... What are they? What are their functions? And how can they be applied to our everyday activities for our benefits? Etc.

Thanks

Chakras are vortices of energy in your body. The main ones are aligned up the spinal column. Often they are 'blocked' but when they open (their opening is often described like the opening of a flower) then currents can flow through them. When currents flow through them they awaken certain behavioural tendencies also certain abilities.

What are these Currents that flow through the body?
Basically they are the Breath that we breathe. But there is something about the breath that is more than just oxygen and air. When we breathe we generate these currents and they run through our body along channels that the hindus called nadi. And they can be stored in different forms in different parts of the body too.

Most notably they are stored as Sexual energy in the nether parts.

In Hindu religion the Current is called Prana.

In China they have something similar called Chi.

In Yoruba it's Emi. Meaning Breath but also meaning Spirit.

When Emi flows through certain vortices in the body it generates certain psychic abilities.

I've got to run but I'll be back tomorrow, or the day after.

Read about prana here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prana

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/hyp/hyp04.htm

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Religion / Re: I Need Your Advice, Please. by PastorAIO: 7:59pm On Apr 21
ccarefulwind2:


Hmm.. Does that means the person might be right?

I woke up few nights ago, to discover that the center of my left Palm was throbbing rapidly for like 3mins, then it later stopped.

Sometimes, when i bring my hands very close to each other, I feel a magnetic feel in between the hands.

No be small tin o

There are chakras in the palms of the hands too.

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Religion / Re: I Need Your Advice, Please. by PastorAIO: 7:48pm On Apr 21
Those breathing exercises involve deliberately holding controlling the breath. Holding it for so long etc...

Without a proper instructor those can be quite dangerous exercises if you don't know what you're doing. One could risk psychosis.

Focusing your attention on your normal breathing pattern though just involves watching the breath. Not controlling it. Just observing it and quieting the mind.

Until you know what you're doing I feel that would be safer.



ccarefulwind2:


Thank you sir for your quick response.

I have done a little research on kundilani energy as you have mentioned and found out some helping facts concerning it and regarding my symptoms.

However, i started feeling these throbbing, tingling and pressure on those parts of the body when i started meditation exercise, together with the breathing exercise (i.e inhale the breath, hold the breath for 4 secs and exhaling it).

I will do as you have directed.

Thanks
Religion / Re: I Need Your Advice, Please. by PastorAIO: 6:32pm On Apr 21
Possibly it could be Kundalini energy. But also possibly not.

Try Meditation. Empty your mind and focus on your breathing. Make written notes on what's happening in your body but don't think much about it. Don't try to control or judge it in any way.

The meditation of just listening to your breathing and stilling the mind will help if it is kundalini and if it is not it is still a good practice so it is a win win.
Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 12:37pm On Apr 21
OkCornel:



It's officially confirmed, you cannot hold a discussion without insults...and I won't stoop so low to wrestle with you in your mud of insults. It's not worth it at all.



You're at least right here. There is no way that I'll be able to engage in such abject nonsense as you serve up without using insults. Abeg just find your way and avoid my insults.

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Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 12:10am On Apr 21
OkCornel:




You claim I am ignorant and arrogant...but you are busy postulating that humans and apes have a common ancestor you have no idea of! ... but yet it sounds like an intelligent opinion to you...


I have given up on you... it appears you cannot hold a conversation without insults... it says a lot about your maturity...

budaatum...what again did you see in this guy?

The difference between me and you is that where I have no knowledge of something I am happy to admit that I have no knowledge of it. You on the other hand will be posturing and derailing and jumping around from one inane source to another.

It doesn't occur to you that if your god can create one extra X chromosome to create a deformed tomato messiah that he could also have created 23 extra chromosomes to create a healthy human being. But I suppose your god is too useless to create 23 whole other chromosomes. He could only manage one more.

It could also not occur to you that the process of evolution could be guided by a divinity.

These are all just speculations but they at least show that the person presenting them has imagination and is not a dullard such as you are demonstrating yourself to be.

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Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 12:02am On Apr 21
OkCornel:


But I thought you clearly stated I should give my reasons on what distinguishes humans from other hominids whilst discussing chromosome 2...now you are giving this response... that I want to derail...all for answering your question...

Why are you twisting things? Ifeness was questioning the authenticity of the bible and whether Mary could have a child without a father. Are you not the one that derailed into genetics when you said the following...

OkCornel:


I would also wish the Bible is completely false...

But can you explain how the DNA of a human being has no chromosome traceable to an earthly father?

Unless you wanna live in denial...don't bother going through the video.

I am not scared of seeking the TRUTH...that is why I have read a lot of books far and wide...including the Epic of Gilgamesh..
I am also not going to ridicule you for choosing to believe the Annunaki story with no evidence for the sighting of planet Nibiru...


So you derail into 'genetics' using some twaddle that your semiliterate mind could not tell was utter nonsense.

Unfortunately, we followed you down the derailed path where you totally exposed yourself to be a nincompoop. Now you resort to lying that I started the genetics talk.

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Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 2:10pm On Apr 20
Anas09:

Wait!! Was it deleted or he deactivated?

I believe he deactivated.
Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 10:44am On Apr 20
budaatum:
Please stop with this jumping from one argument to another when we have enough unresolved issues to deal with. Provide us with what has been requested or admit that what you posted was baseless.

You can always start another thread for apes!

Abi o! That was how I was going to respond to the last load of nonsense he wrote to me. He wanted to just derail completely.

Let's tie it up sharp sharp. This is the post that started the genetics nonsense.

Ifeness said he didn't believe bible stories for instance the claim that Jesus had no earthly father and this was okcornel's response:

OkCornel:


I would also wish the Bible is completely false...

But can you explain how the DNA of a human being has no chromosome traceable to an earthly father?

And where did you read that the fruit in question was an apple?

Unless you wanna live in denial...don't bother going through the video.

I am not scared of seeking the TRUTH...that is why I have read a lot of books far and wide...including the Epic of Gilgamesh..
I am also not going to ridicule you for choosing to believe the Annunaki story with no evidence for the sighting of planet Nibiru...


He stated as a fact that he knew of a dna sample that wasn't traceable to an earthly father. This is to debunk Ifeness's claim that he didn't believe a human being wouldn't have an earthly father.
It turns out that his proof that it is possible for human dna to show no trace of an earthly father was utter rubbish which betrayed that fact that he was scientifically illiterate. He then jumped to pull up Wyatt and richard Rives to further buttress his ignorance instead of conceding the point.

That just goes to show us that we are not only dealing with an ignorant person but a person that is not willing to learn and alleviate himself from the dark cesspits of ignorance. Ignorance buttressed by Arrogance.

Now that Wyatt has been sufficiently debunked and even demonstrated that he is not even considered a christian by a lot of other christian groups he still will not let go. Now he wants to argue Semantics of the english language. The man is a waste of space.
Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 10:03pm On Apr 19
OkCornel:


You actually have a very basic comprehension problem...
I asked a question if you are implying man evolved from ape... I never concluded you mentioned that...


And I said you have basic comprehension problem IF you understood that I said man evolved from ape. So who has the basic comprehension problem.


OkCornel:


Now going by your current post... you are assuming that losing 2 chromosomes from is what made humans exist...

Flawed assumption I must say...


It is a trait that distinguishes humans from all other hominids. If you think otherwise then please table your reasons.

OkCornel:

So what's the name of the common ancestor that man and ape shared?

I have no idea.
Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 7:01pm On Apr 19
OkCornel:


Where was it stated in the article that the first man/woman had 48 chromosomes?


The assumption that Chromosome 2 has "nearly identical" sequence to two separate chromosomes from what was found in Chimpanzees is your basis?

You are implying man evolved from ape? Very interesting... it's like saying banana evolved from plantain or yam evolved from cassava...since they have a "nearly identical" genetic structure...

Whatever floats your boat.

Humans have 46 chromosomes. Their nearest species and other hominids had/have 48.

Therefore I find it easy to assume that losing 2 chromosomes is what made us human.

I never said man evolved from ape. You have basic comprehension problems if you understood that.

We are certainly related to the ape and have a common ancestor.
Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 6:57pm On Apr 19
LoJ:

Hello dear,
Sarassin deactivated of his own accord for reasons of his own. Seun has nothing to do with it, at least directly.
Greetings.

Ah, Thanks.
Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 6:09pm On Apr 19
OkCornel:


Plain daft even when the results are staring right in one's face...

That reminds me of an ostrich that buries its head in the sand...

The results of what?
Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 6:07pm On Apr 19
OkCornel:


Any scientific research work on this?

Oh... you started with "quite likely" so its your opinion...

All members of Hominidae except humans, Neanderthals, and Denisovans have 24 pairs of chromosomes.[7] Humans have only 23 pairs of chromosomes. Human chromosome 2 is a result of an end-to-end fusion of two ancestral chromosomes.[8][9]

The evidence for this includes:

The correspondence of chromosome 2 to two ape chromosomes. The closest human relative, the chimpanzee, has near-identical DNA sequences to human chromosome 2, but they are found in two separate chromosomes. The same is true of the more distant gorilla and orangutan.[10][11]
The presence of a vestigial centromere. Normally a chromosome has just one centromere, but in chromosome 2 there are remnants of a second centromere in the q21.3–q22.1 region.[12]
The presence of vestigial telomeres. These are normally found only at the ends of a chromosome, but in chromosome 2 there are additional telomere sequences in the q13 band, far from either end of the chromosome.[13]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosome_2


Like I said, some opinions are intelligent and based on scientific study while other opinions are just plain daft.
Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:52pm On Apr 19
OkCornel:


Going by your logic..maybe the first man/woman were deformed too...
Unless you are certain they had 46 chromosomes as well...

Quite likely their parents had 48, but weren't human. When they reduced to 46 that is when they became human.
Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:50pm On Apr 19
OkCornel:


Thankfully its your opinion...and not a fact...


We all have our opinions. Some are intelligent are others are plain daft.
Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:44pm On Apr 19
OkCornel:


I have no doubt that God can create 23 chromosomes out of thin air...but where are the 23 chromosomes in the sample tested?
Or is the issue no longer about the result of the sample tested?

I think you misunderstand me. I should make me position clearer.

I don't believe in the existence of any nonsense sample. Or that any tests were conducted. I believe it is all one big con.

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Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:43pm On Apr 19
OkCornel:


You have no idea on how many chromosomes the first man/woman had...and they weren't deformed...or were they?

Maybe Jesus was deformed after all.


I recall some time ago reading a book (I forgot the title) that stated that there was an early Church tradition about Jesus being deformed. One source described him as being 3 cubits tall-4 1 / 2 feet (males at that time and region were on average 5'4"wink, hunchbacked, long face with a unibrow that made him look terrifying when he looked at you.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/183483/jesus-hunchback-unibrowed-dwarf
Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:39pm On Apr 19
OkCornel:


You have no idea on how many chromosomes the first man/woman had...and they weren't deformed...or were they?

I don't know.
Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:38pm On Apr 19
OkCornel:


Oh...so you now see that not all human beings have 46 chromosomes...

There are no historical accounts on Jesus being deformed...

Let's go by your logic... if Jesus had 46 chromosomes as any human being should...and Joseph clearly was not the earthly father of Jesus...then who was Jesus' earthly father (by blood)... CAN YOU TELL US?

While at it...it would be nice to also know how many chromosomes the first man and woman had... were they 46 in number?

How clearly was Joseph not his earthly father?

I'm sorry, I can't tell you who Jesus' earthly father is. I just don't know.

If you can present the first man and woman I'll be happy to have a guess at how many chromosomes they had.



One more question for you:

Since God is all powerful, why do you not believe that God could have created out of thin air 23 chromosomes to join with Mary's 23 and therefore make Jesus an undeformed proper human being? It is obvious that you don't believe that god can make 23 chromosomes for Jesus' male side. Why not?
Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:33pm On Apr 19
OkCornel:


I thought you were reasoning logically when I mentioned I didn't want to post sources from wyattmuseum.com

Or you think details on his scientific backgrounds are not there?

I am looking for sources from a neutral background does not automatically mean I do not know anything about his scientific background...

simple logic undecided

Give us the details of his scientific background from Wyatt museum.
Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 5:32pm On Apr 19
OkCornel:


And your logical reasoning never mentioned that it is a must for all human beings to have 46 chromosomes...

1) What of people with 47 chromosomes...what'll you say about them?

2) How many chromosomes did the first man/woman on earth have...since they had no parents?

Let's see how far your "logical" reasoning goes...

1) What of people with 47 chromosomes...what'll you say about them?
they are deformed. Was Jesus deformed?

2) How many chromosomes did the first man/woman on earth have...since they had no parents?


I have no idea.
Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 4:43pm On Apr 19
OkCornel:


Bro... no vex abeg...

Most of the sources I've seen so far are from wyattmusuem.com and I believe there might be element of bias in them since he's affiliated to them...

If something from a neutral source pops up...I'll post it here ASAP...

So what led you in the first place to use him as scientific evidence when you know nothing about his scientific background?
Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 4:41pm On Apr 19
OkCornel:



And what's driving the last three questions? I don't understand the reason for these questions...how are they related to what we've been discussing so far?


The reason for the last three questions is an attempt to see whether illogical reasoning may have a bearing on why you present Richard Rives as scientific proof without even knowing what his scientific background is.
Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 4:39pm On Apr 19
OkCornel:


Human beings with 47 chromosomes ... what about them? How are they also human beings?



Most fetuses with trisomy are miscarried during the first trimester. Most of those who survive have Down syndrome, also known as trisomy 21 because it's caused by an extra chromosome 21. While all babies with Down syndrome have some degree of mental impairment, it's severe in only about 10 percent.
https://www.babycenter.com/404_what-does-it-mean-when-a-baby-has-an-extra-chromosome_5279.bc



The 47 chromosomes case results in serious deformity. Was Jesus deformed?
Religion / Re: DISCUSSION: YHWH (jewish) And Enki (epic Of Gilgamesh) Who Is Older? by PastorAIO: 4:28pm On Apr 19
OkCornel:


Then you didn't watch the last video I posted on the thread... the test done by Richard Rives was done in that video...

As for the links on Richard Rives... I'm looking for references outside of wyattmuseum.com because most of what I've seen are from there and might have an element of bias in them...I need something independent and neutral...

If you could just tell us what Richard Rives' scientific background is that would be very wonderful. I thank you in advance.

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