MaxInDHouse:


Wow!
So this is your viewpoint!
Please i'm sorry, i thought you're one of those misinformed Churchgoers due to your profile name "PastorAIO"

It's good to have persons like you on this forum.
The truth about rituals is the spirit behind it.
Rituals has to do with people coming together to perform rites continually. So a spirit/spirits must be involved because failure to perform such rites will attract a penalty to be paid for by the defaulter.
Only atheists who don't think of any rites having to do with people gathering together are less concerned about this.
But when talking about money rituals then we must remember that it has nothing to do with any religion, spirits are everywhere and they're desperately looking for souls to trap in exchange for whatever pleases their victim.
Some people ask for power probably to deal with whoever offends them, others seek fame, some public offices having to do with politics, and some for money.
The reason why most youths go for money rituals is because they can't think of anything else apart from flamboyant lifestyle, girls and partying.
There was rites to pay back then even among the Christians, their goal was to get ever closer to the true God and resist the spirit of the world. Paul illustrated this in the Bible book of Ephesians 6:10-18
So rituals/rites cut across all races, classes and religions!

DeepSight:


The tricky bit with that theory though rests in the perception of self. The self-awareness, or self-consciousness. Because even if we presuppose for the sake of anything that there are indeed multiple other versions of (the frankly inimitable) Pastor AIO out there, would those versions be you: do they share your consciousness of being.

Therein lies the trouble. Nevertheless let me just quickly add that speaking for myself one is sometimes so beset with such other-worldly dreams that one cannot help but countenance the possibility that one has an unconscious or subconscious simultaneous existence some place else.

killyaselfie:


So the gist of it is that there is an infinitely small probability that another PastorAIO exists somewhere in the universe.

MaxInDHouse:


Well being born again began when some Jews thought they will join the Messiah in ruling the earth, they were known back then as "Pharisees"
Nicodemus was one of them that's why he went to Jesus at night because he knew Jesus is from God but his colleagues hated Jesus due to his teachings that's against this group.
Jesus knew the intentions of those leading this group so he didn't waste anytime before telling Nicodemus that what himself and his colleagues were anticipating will not be possible. They need to change their attitude from thinking like rulers to servants if they're going to be part of Jesus' ruling team.
Then after their baptism where everyone will know that they're now Jesus' disciples they must be baptized by the spirit of God. John 3:5

All these are too much for Nicodemus so he walked away quietly but he never hated Jesus for this truth he heard.

It was at Pentecost that what Jesus told Nicodemus became a reality. Over 120 disciples of Jesus were baptized by they spirit of God showing that they've been invited to join in ruling with the Christ in heaven.
They don't go about broadcasting it to anyone because it's only meaningful to their fellow believers, other people don't find it sensible for anyone to think he/she is going to heaven when all past servants of God believe they're going to live forever on Paradise earth.
That's why Jesus told the thief what all servants of God were longing for: Paradise (not heaven) Luke 23:43

We have them (born again) worshiping with us but i often pity people who don't know them because most people often treat us (JWs) badly whereas whoever does such to any of the born again will surely experience something really bad but they wouldn't know that it's due to the way they treated one of Jesus' REAL brothers that brought the plague.

Most of them have died and gone to heaven now it remains just a few of them globally.
They are the REAL JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES not us because we are only following their footsteps, that's why most people often get disappointed when they expect so much from a JW but later discovered that he's just like everyone else. Well it's the born again in our midst that's teaching us what we know so it's not what we ourselves are used to!

FKMagazine:




Really!
So, who gave those small lads the clue on which and what part is very much essential in the body to use for money ritual?

How come they knew they can get rich if they summit their loved ones or best friend(s) to an habalist and ultimately get rich quick after performing few ritual rights with those parts?

And if there are bag eggs in their profession, what are punishable measures put in place to curtail their excesses and evil deeds by fighting against the use of humans, for evil or selfish motives rather than using animals and harbs/leaves for money rituals or curing medicine?
So many questions they need to answer

MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted is enough to show that you never knew anything about Christianity!

For your information real born again Christian must not say it out in the public, in fact we only recognize them due to an annual event where they can't hide their identity.
So my friend you were never a Christian at all!

FKMagazine:




Really!
So, who gave those small lads the clue on which and what part is very much essential in the body to use for money ritual?

How come they knew they can get rich if they summit their loved ones or best friend(s) to an habalist and ultimately get rich quick after performing few ritual rights with those parts?

And if there are bag eggs in their profession, what are punishable measures put in place to curtail their excesses and evil deeds by fighting against the use of humans, for evil or selfish motives rather than using animals and harbs/leaves for money rituals or curing medicine?
So many questions they need to answer

wisdom042:
So where and who initiated the ideal of using human as a means to get rich?

MadamExcellency:
Lairs. As far as demons are involved. Blood is essential for sacrifice. Human blood is no exception to Satan and his worshippers.

PastorAIO:


He who has ears to hear let him hear:

In the Levantine there is a category of creature known as djinn. They are formed from ‘smokeless fire’. Iblis , according to Islam, was such a djinn. He disobeyed allah and was cast out of heaven and became the king of the Satans.

Now if you go to the root of this whole calamity that has befallen us in this world what do we find.

We find it started with a discovery by Moses. Moses was in the wilderness when he saw a bush burning but was not getting consumed. In other words the bush was not being turned to smoke by the fire. The phenomenon he saw was SMOKELESS FIRE. He saw a djinn and he spoke to the djinn and the djinn spoke to him. That is where these religions started.

This has go to be the greatest deception in the whole of history.

jamesid29:

Hmmm,you seem to be really angry at the God of the bible...

jamesid29:

Hmmm,you seem to be really angry at the God of the bible...

jamesid29:

Hmmm,you seem to be really angry at the God of the bible...

Steep:

In the Hebrew world view, when God allow something to happen then it is said that such is from God because he allowed it, I think you should take classes on Hebrew linguistic and system, your ignorance is obnoxious.

budaatum:


Or when the source of truth is distorted so the truth in the source is not seen then they [are] convince[d] their belief is the truth.

It is of course due to a non-acceptance of 'Christ' in their lifes or their eyes will open and they will see.

DeepSight:


Kai! Serious stuff there.
Is this related to your perception of the identity of Yahweh as you hinted in another thread/ the matter of human sacrifice.

DeepSight:




Now this is quite a revelation. Vehicle for satanism. Do you mean in the sense that people employ it for satanic ends or in the sense that it is itself an authentically and original satanic movement in the world.

DeepSight:
Now that over a decade of the waters of time have run under the bridge, PastorAIO can you share with us how and where your worldview has evolved, especially with regard to spiritual/ existential matters - viz: the meaning of life.

PastorAIO:


Exodus 3
2And the angel of the LORD appeared to him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush. He looked, and behold, the bush was burning, yet it was not consumed. 3And Moses said, “I will turn aside to see this great sight, why the bush is not burned.” 4When the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called to him out of the bush, “Moses, Moses!” And he said, “Here I am.”

Who was Moses talking to, whose voice came out of the bush?

Was it Yhwh?

Was it the Angel of Yhwh?

Was it the Elohim? (ie the pantheon).

LordReed:
How can someone be deceived by the truth?

jinni, plural jinn, also called genie, Arabic jinnī, in Arabic mythology, a supernatural spirit below the level of angels and devils. Ghūl (treacherous spirits of changing shape), ʿifrīt (diabolic, evil spirits), and siʿlā (treacherous spirits of invariable form) constitute classes of jinn. Jinn are beings of flame or air who are capable of assuming human or animal form and are said to dwell in all conceivable inanimate objects—stones, trees, ruins—underneath the earth, in the air, and in fire. They possess the bodily needs of human beings and can even be killed, but they are free from all physical restraints. Jinn delight in punishing humans for any harm done them, intentionally or unintentionally, and are said to be responsible for many diseases and all kinds of accidents; however, those human beings knowing the proper magical procedure can exploit the jinn to their advantage.

Samūm (Arabic: سموم also spelled Simoom or Semum; from the root س م م s-m-m, سم "to poison" is a fire related to demons in Ancient Arabic lore and later Islamic beliefs. As a kind of fire, it is also the origin of some kinds of evil spirits and further identified with both the fires of hell and the fire of the sun. The Samum probably originated from Jewish lore as an anthropomorphization of poisonous wind, which was probably also the origin of the concept of Samael and his lesser devils.[1] Islam further develops the relation between the fires of Samum and Satan by asserting, that he or at least his minor devils, are created from the fires of Samum.[2]

LordReed:


To plumb the depths of this statement will require deep earth mining equipment and mining engineers. LoL.

Steep:


Ezekiel 20:25 Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live;

Where did God mention human sacrifice?

you just demonstrated your stupidity, you think there was only one Jeroboam in the bible.

1 Kings 12:31 And he made an house of high places, and made priests of the lowest of the people, which were not of the sons of Levi.

The altar Josiah offered those priest on were altar that Jeroboam hath built.

Kobojunkie:
I don't require an explanation....I don't really care to read an epistle on this. A simple "yes" or "no" is all that is necessary. Either your understanding is the Satan character works for the God character, or not.

Steep:

The more you know about the world the more you know there is God.
There are many verses in the bible that made it clear that God created the heavens and the earth himself and alone.

Isaiah 42:5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

Isaiah 45:12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.

Isaiah 51:13 And forgettest the LORD thy maker, that hath stretched forth the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth; and hast feared continually every day because of the fury of the oppressor, as if he were ready to destroy? and where is the fury of the oppressor?

Job 9:8 Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.

Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

All these and many more shows that the creation was yahweh's work which He did by himself and alone.

budaatum:


You ignore both the human ability to commit vile acts of their own freewill, and the human ability to create. Paul was an adept creator. His letters about the Christ he only met in Spirit are the core of the Gospel according to Luke. But I respect your believing, though I always prefer understandings, which believe gets in the way of.

I study religions and their adherents, Pastor. And because of my greed, I sell what I have for the good fields in them all on which I harvest the crop which I store where moths can't get at it.

Kobojunkie:
Are these also contradictions according to you or what?,

Steep:
yes there was a power struggle between the priest ordained by yahweh and those others that were not.
@ bolded where was it written that Josaih offered those priest to yahweh.


yea my bad, before the house of God was buil, the high places were used for sacrifice, because the house of God was not yet built.

These you quoted were before the house of God was built.

1 Kings 12:31 And he made an house of high places, and made priests of the lowest of the people, which were not of the sons of Levi.

The altar Josiah offered those priest on were altar that Jeroboam hath built.

. Jeroboam set up his own religious worship, with his own priest which were not the levites, only the levites were chosen to be priests but he chose the lowlives, the word lowliest of men means criminals or murders to be his priest.
It was these murders that Josiah killed on the altar, and because the word 'offer' or 'sacrifice'
Because any killing down on an altar is called sacrifice, it doesn't mean it is really a sacrifice but because the execution was done on it.

Steep:

In the Hebrew world view, when God allow something to happen then it is said that such is from God because he allowed it, I think you should take classes on Hebrew linguistic and system, your ignorance is obnoxious.

DeepSight:


If I may interject, doesn't the story of Job directly suggest this?