Liekiller:


I have no time for any quoting wars, and I see no point in it. The entire bible contradicts the idea of a loving & caring God, and even more so does organized religion nowadays contradict any useful lesson that could possibly be found in the bible. Several instances of general foolishness have been pointed out in this thread. Furthermore, any sane person does not need an unholy holy book to know that harming others is wrong. I'd wish you believers would focus on that aspect more than the things adults do in their bedrooms that harm nobody at all.

ok. Maby you are tired for today.now you mention unholy word, what did you called holy? Were in the bible God instruct you to do unholy thing? God dos not exist, dos it mean everything is permissible? What lead to temptation? Deep inside you, you believe there's no God?
Bible say "Don't let the excitement of youth cause you to forget your Creator.
Honor him in your youth before you grow old and say, "Life is not
pleasant anymore."

as an atheist, do you realy think when you reach the age of 70(by his grace) you will still stay put in your belief?

plaetton:


Then I have a problem with your god's moral compass.
It's too far below my moral compass.

In fact, I think he is post-diagnosed as being schizophrenic.

You see why religious faith makes no sense?

deal with your problem.

plaetton:


God said " thou shall not kill" , then later he ordered Moses to commit acts of genocide.

God said " though shall not steal, thou shall not envy" , but he led the Israelites to envy , kill, steal the land and fortunes of other tribes, as well as capturing virgins which they shared amongst themselves, with a portion for the lord.

I am still wondering what the lord did with his own share of captured virgins.

moses commit acts of genocide? What about the egyptian who held them as slave?

malvisguy212:
ok. Maby you are tired for today.now you mention unholy word, what did you called holy? Were in the bible God instruct you to do unholy thing? God dos not exist, dos it mean everything is permissible? What lead to temptation? Deep inside you, you believe there's no God?
Bible say "Don't let the excitement of youth cause you to forget your Creator.
Honor him in your youth before you grow old and say, "Life is not
pleasant anymore."

as an atheist, do you realy think when you reach the age of 70(by his grace) you will still stay put in your belief?

1) as an atheist it doesn't matter to me what God instructs in the bible, because as an atheist I do not believe in any god. Not the Christian one, not Allah, not Shango. None of them. As a result, I do not see the bible as anything else than a book written by people. There are a thousand other manmade books that make a lot more sense to me in terms of offering guidance and instruction to be a good human being (yes, that is my goal). Apart from that I also use my own brain to figure out what's right and wrong.
2) the non-belief in god does NOT mean that everything is permissible. Quite the contrary. My moral standards are not based on threats of hellfire though but on a genuine desire to do what's right. Whatever harms others is not permissible.
3) I don't see why age would change any of this. After all I don't believe in the threats of hellfire.

Liekiller:


1) as an atheist it doesn't matter to me what God instructs in the bible, because as an atheist I do not believe in any god. Not the Christian one, not Allah, not Shango. None of them. As a result, I do not see the bible as anything else than a book written by people. There are a thousand other manmade books that make a lot more sense to me in terms of offering guidance and instruction to be a good human being (yes, that is my goal). Apart from that I also use my own brain to figure out what's right and wrong.
2) the non-belief in god does NOT mean that everything is permissible. Quite the contrary. My moral standards are not based on threats of hellfire though but on a genuine desire to do what's right. Whatever harms others is not permissible.
3) I don't see why age would change any of this. After all I don't believe in the threats of hellfire.

then u have already seal your fate to perish in hell. U made the choice yourself.

malvisguy212:
moses commit acts of genocide? What about the egyptian who held them as slave?

dnt mind those guys. It is as if they lost their senses sometimes.

Back to the topic. Seriously, those who practice any of those perversions are hell bound unless they repent. Some christians practice it without knowing.

plaetton:


From my experience, it is always irredeemable perverts that lose sleep over the intimate activities of others.

God gave the instructions. Keep it or perish.

Liekiller:


na true talk. Like all the "godly" priests abusing children, raping women, and whatever else they do. And all the "good Christian" family fathers cheating their wives with whores and school girls

those who refuse to do the will of God will perish whether they pose as christians or not.

Liekiller:


gosh, the mindboggling C-R-A-P you people come up with to deal with obvious flaws in your unholy holy book!!!

God's book is holy. The word of God is forever settled in heaven. U can cry foul as u want.

plaetton:


R..ape and in.cest are intimate perversions.
Funny enough, they are the intimate perversions most practiced by biblical heroes.
Even more funny is the holy ghost itself is guilty of the r.a.pe of a young maiden called Mary, from whence came the supposed redeemer of your soul, according to your holy scriptures.
Funny how redemption is coming from perversion.

Therefore sir, sexual perversion is embedded in the very fabric of your faith.

You sir, are a certified pervert, because you worry about intimate things that other folks do in the privacy of their bedrooms.

what u think is irrelevant because the reality will stare at u later. I just pity you for going where you are nt supposed to. God has said it and so shall it be. Commit it and face the consequence later.

Liekiller:


could you possibly put this into words that a normal person from the 21st century can understand?

is it french? U can't understand english again? Anyway, it is talking about those shameful perverts. the gays and lesbians(homosexual) and how they have plunge into such devilish acts that will result in eternal suffering in hell if they dnt repent.

Ukutsgp:
1 cor 6:9-10

9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, a nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

see u tomorrow.

the keywords there is: homosexuals and sodomites.

Liekiller:


1) as an atheist it doesn't matter to me what God instructs in the bible, because as an atheist I do not believe in any god. Not the Christian one, not Allah, not Shango. None of them. As a result, I do not see the bible as anything else than a book written by people. There are a thousand other manmade books that make a lot more sense to me in terms of offering guidance and instruction to be a good human being (yes, that is my goal). Apart from that I also use my own brain to figure out what's right and wrong.
2) the non-belief in god does NOT mean that everything is permissible. Quite the contrary. My moral standards are not based on threats of hellfire though but on a genuine desire to do what's right. Whatever harms others is not permissible.
3) I don't see why age would change any of this. After all I don't believe in the threats of hellfire.

you do not created your self, you have a creator but just because you wanted to be amoung the cool guys around,you neglect him, sorry to say this, either you like it or not,reject him or accept him, you must face judgment.the question i realy want you to answer is this"what lead to temptation?you dont want to hurt someone but you always find your self hurting people, which type of force is this? Can temptation lead to the existence of God?"

by his grace i will post a coment this evening, believe me when i say this, ALL ATHIEST ARE UNDER THE CONTROL OF SATAN, have you ever her'd of a cult with the name "reasoning?" 90% of athiest came out from this cult.

Ukutsgp:
then u have already seal your fate to perish in hell. U made the choice yourself.

Is there anything else that your faith offers other than threats of violence?

What kind of a philosophical system, a system of life uses threast of torture as it's only selling point?

Don't you realize that you are a slave to your fears?
Don't you realize that you are subconsciously envious of those who are free from and impervious to your fears?
That is why you have nothing but threats to offer them.

Amazing.
Simply amazing.

malvisguy212:
you do not created your self, you have a creator but just because you wanted to be amoung the cool guys around,you neglect him, sorry to say this, either you like it or not,reject him or accept him, you must face judgment.the question i realy want you to answer is this"what lead to temptation?you dont want to hurt someone but you always find your self hurting people, which type of force is this? Can temptation lead to the existence of God?"

by his grace i will post a coment this evening, believe me when i say this, ALL ATHIEST ARE UNDER THE CONTROL OF SATAN, have you ever her'd of a cult with the name "reasoning?" 90% of athiest came out from this cult.

Poor guy.

You envy atheists because they are impervious to your fearful and terrible delusions.
You are haunted by your contradictions and fears.
That is why you resort to violence.
When common sense runs out, violence is the only thing left.

Poor you.
Ndo oooo

plaetton:


Is there anything else that your faith offers other than threats of violence?

What kind of a philosophical system, a system of life uses threast of torture as it's only selling point?

Don't you realize that you are a slave to your fears?
Don't you realize that you are subconsciously envious of those who are free from and impervious to your fears?
That is why you have nothing but threats to offer them.

Amazing.
Simply amazing.

Jesus has set me free from my fears. We dnt preach fear, we only warn sinners to repent and take advantage of what christ did for them on the cross. He that is in christ is a new creature, old things have passed away; behold all things have become new. 2 cor 5:17. Failure to accept Jesus as your lord and saviour spelt danger because he alone can save you from sin including those sexual perversions.

Ukutsgp:
Jesus has set me free from my fears. We dnt preach fear, we only warn sinners to repent and take advantage of what christ did for them on the cross. He that is in christ is a new creature, old things have passed away; behold all things have become new. 2 cor 5:17. Failure to accept Jesus as your lord and saviour spelt danger because he alone can save you from sin including those sexual perversions.

The two most stupid religions ever invented by man.

"Love me or I will torture you".

If someone were to say these to your daughter or sister, would you not declare war on such a dangerous psychopath?

Ukutsgp:
Jesus has set me free from my fears. We dnt preach fear, we only warn sinners to repent and take advantage of what christ did for them on the cross. He that is in christ is a new creature, old things have passed away; behold all things have become new. 2 cor 5:17. Failure to accept Jesus as your lord and saviour spelt danger because he alone can save you from sin including those sexual perversions.

Like I said before, r.ap.e and in.ces.t are the two intimate perversions that are universally condemned.
And incidentally, they are the two perversions promoted and glorified in your bible.
So you are being dishonest if you do not recognize your bible as a book of horror and perversions.

I am morally strong enough on my own, without any GEEZUS and any skymonster, to stay away from the intimate perversions glorified in your bible .

plaetton:


Like I said before, r.ap.e and in.ces.t are the two intimate perversions that are universally condemned.
And incidentally, they are the two perversions promoted and glorified in your bible.
So you are being dishonest if you do not recognize your bible as a book of horror and perversions.

I am morally strong enough on my own, without any GEEZUS and any skymonster, to stay away from the intimate perversions glorified in your bible .

just be sensible for once. I have told you that in the beginning it was nt seen as incest but it was so after God placed a commandment against it. And i have also given u the reasons why God put a stop to it. As for rape, i dnt know what u are talking about.

plaetton:


The two most stupid religions ever invented by man.

"Love me or I will torture you".

If someone were to say these to your daughter or sister, would you not declare war on such a dangerous psychopath?

christianity is nt invented by man.

God is a supreme personality. Higher than the highest. He created you and u have to obey him. Supposing he killed u in your mother's womb, u won't be here spewing this rubbish. He is indeed a merciful God. that's why u are still breathing therefore, humble yourself before him. Let him change your life for the better.

plaetton:


Poor guy.

You envy atheists because they are impervious to your fearful and terrible delusions.
You are haunted by your contradictions and fears.
That is why you resort to violence.
When common sense runs out, violence is the only thing left.

Poor you.
Ndo oooo

this may sound strange to you. Guess what? There was a time i realy want to believe God's not there, but somthing told me to hold on ,but now i am convince there's God cause i'v encounter Him, yes, i may be a poor guy but i know who i realy am.

Ukutsgp:
christianity is nt invented by man.

God is a supreme personality. Higher than the highest. He created you and u have to obey him. Supposing he killed u in your mother's womb, u won't be here spewing this rubbish. He is indeed a merciful God. that's why u are still breathing therefore, humble yourself before him. Let him change your life for the better.

You don't know how really silly you sound.

How many children does your god kill in Nigeria, despite all the prayers and worship?

Nigeria still ranks 4th in infant mortality in the world despite a church in every street corner in Nigeria.
Don't you think you spend more time trying to convince your god to at least help save the suffering innocent children of the world?
M.o.ron.

If god exists, why would there be a need to change anyone's life for better?
What would a life need to be changed in the first place.?
lol.

Can we say that your god changed the lives of 115 people (god believers) T B Clown Joshua tragedy for better?

spoil sport Leviticus should be re-edited to allow Mouth Action, where is the Pope, at least he allowed Gay Action/Marriage. why not this

voltron:
spoil sport Leviticus should be re-edited to allow Mouth Action, where is the Pope, at least he allowed Gay Action/Marriage. why not this

plaetton:


You don't know how really silly you sound.

How many children does your god kill in Nigeria, despite all the prayers and worship?

Nigeria still ranks 4th in infant mortality in the world despite a church in every street corner in Nigeria.
Don't you think you spend more time trying to convince your god to at least help save the suffering innocent children of the world?
M.o.ron.

If god exists, why would there be a need to change anyone's life for better?
What would a life need to be changed in the first place.?
lol.

Can we say that your god changed the lives of 115 people (god believers) T B Clown Joshua tragedy for better?

my God doesn't kill anyone rather it's your master the devil that is speaking through you now that is responsible for the misfortune in the world. He is the master of evil. But God on the otherhand is kind, loving, merciful, just and holy. He protect his own from destruction and save those who obey him and follow his instructions. God only fights against evil and he will continue to fight against the evil men and women in the society. God's children will always be welcome home whenever they passed away from this evil world. God will say welldone to the faithful believer who refused to give up his faith in this world. We are ready to die for the gospel of our lord Jesus christ who shed his precious blood to redeem mankind from the grip of sin and death and to free us from the bondage of satan and his cohorts. The children of God are always at peace in face of misfortune and strong challenges.

People will always die as long as they are in this world but the question is where are u going to end up after u passed away? Where will u spend eternity? In heaven or in hellfire? The choice is yours. We are nt afraid of death cos we know if we die in christ our tears is going to be wiped away and there is no gonna be sorrow or pain again forever in the presence of God.

plaetton and liekiller.

Century before athiest even came to existence satan has been using the same trick he use foe eve to deceive mankind, you guys shuld realy consider this:


satan not only rejected God by attempting to supplant Him, but he urged
humans to do likewise. Satan urged Eve to choose against God for her own self-fulfilment:

in genesis3:1-5.He said to the woman, “Did God actually say, ‘You shall not eat of any
tree in the garden’?” And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat
of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but God said, ‘You shall not eat of
the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you
touch it, lest you die.’” But the serpent said to the woman, “You will
not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”


NOW, LET ANALIZE GENESIS1:3-5.
The tactic is clear: firstly, question God’s statements, then, contradict
God’s statements and, finally, urge rebellion in seeking equality with
God.
How dos this relate to athiest?

This manifests in atheists as
1. Questioning whether there is a God to make statements in the first
place, so God did not say anything.
2. Contradicting the statements said to have been spoken by God.
3. Seeking equality with God by replacing God with the self. This satanic deception appeals strongly to atheists as it bolsters two of
their desired delusions: 1) absolute autonomy—being free to do as
they please, and 2) the lack of ultimate accountability—there are no eternal consequences for doing as they please.

THIS IS EXACLTLY THE TRICK SATAN USE ON EVE THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ATHIEST.
Everything is revising back from the begining, homosexual is so common nowadays and it because of homosexual God destroyed soddom and gomoriah, wickedness is running ramppant ,it is because of it God destroyed the world with flood. Seem's like yesterday.

malvisguy212:
plaetton and liekiller.

Century before athiest even came to existence satan has been using the same trick he use foe eve to deceive mankind, you guys shuld realy consider this:


satan not only rejected God by attempting to supplant Him, but he urged
humans to do likewise. Satan urged Eve to choose against God for her own self-fulfilment:

in genesis3:1-5.He said to the woman, “Did God actually say, ‘You shall not eat of any
tree in the garden’?” And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat
of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but God said, ‘You shall not eat of
the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you
touch it, lest you die.’” But the serpent said to the woman, “You will
not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”


NOW, LET ANALIZE GENESIS1:3-5.
The tactic is clear: firstly, question God’s statements, then, contradict
God’s statements and, finally, urge rebellion in seeking equality with
God.
How dos this relate to athiest?

This manifests in atheists as
1. Questioning whether there is a God to make statements in the first
place, so God did not say anything.
2. Contradicting the statements said to have been spoken by God.
3. Seeking equality with God by replacing God with the self. This satanic deception appeals strongly to atheists as it bolsters two of
their desired delusions: 1) absolute autonomy—being free to do as
they please, and 2) the lack of ultimate accountability—there are no eternal consequences for doing as they please.

THIS IS EXACLTLY THE TRICK SATAN USE ON EVE THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ATHIEST.
Everything is revising back from the begining, homosexual is so common nowadays and it because of homosexual God destroyed soddom and gomoriah, wickedness is running ramppant ,it is because of it God destroyed the world with flood. Seem's like yesterday.

Get serious.
What century exactly did atheist come into existence ?
Lol.
Using a book of fairy tales to substantiate a fairy tale shows the level of cognitive dissonance involved here.
It's like me using a Christmas tale to prove the existence and wonders of Santa Claus.

Ukutsgp:
my God doesn't kill anyone rather it's your master the devil that is speaking through you now that is responsible for the misfortune in the world. He is the master of evil. But God on the otherhand is kind, loving, merciful, just and holy. He protect his own from destruction and save those who obey him and follow his instructions. God only fights against evil and he will continue to fight against the evil men and women in the society. God's children will always be welcome home whenever they passed away from this evil world. God will say welldone to the faithful believer who refused to give up his faith in this world. We are ready to die for the gospel of our lord Jesus christ who shed his precious blood to redeem mankind from the grip of sin and death and to free us from the bondage of satan and his cohorts. The children of God are always at peace in face of misfortune and strong challenges.

People will always die as long as they are in this world but the question is where are u going to end up after u passed away? Where will u spend eternity? In heaven or in hellfire? The choice is yours. We are nt afraid of death cos we know if we die in christ our tears is going to be wiped away and there is no gonna be sorrow or pain again forever in the presence of God.

so HOW many massacres did this "kind, loving, merciful, just and holy" god command according to the bible? Or was he perhaps possessed by satan when he did so? LOL what nonsense. And can you name a few specific examples of "God only fights against evil"? No? well...

plaetton:

Get serious.
What century exactly did atheist come into existence ?
Lol.
Using a book of fairy tales to substantiate a fairy tale shows the level of cognitive dissonance involved here.
It's like me using a Christmas tale to prove the existence and wonders of Santa Claus.

trying to deny the existence of God is an act of foolishness since the things he created even testify about his existence. Just submit to God and follow his instructions.

Ukutsgp:
trying to deny the existence of God is an act of foolishness since the things he created even testify about his existence. Just submit to God and follow his instructions.

Does god need me or do I need him?

plaetton:

Get serious.
What century exactly did atheist come into existence ?
Lol.
Using a book of fairy tales to substantiate a fairy tale shows the level of cognitive dissonance involved here.
It's like me using a Christmas tale to prove the existence and wonders of Santa Claus.

eve was the first woman,this is clear enough to say there are no athiest living when satan use the trick on eve.