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Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by fairprince(m): 7:13pm On Nov 08, 2014
deathroll:


The evil you wish Southwest will surely consume you and your entire household.
He said something that might make sense. Here u are and all u could do is attack him based on sentiments. You could have simply countered his opinion with a seemingly meaningful analysis. I wouldn't mind if you could be kind enof to say something more meaningful...

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Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by calaway: 7:13pm On Nov 08, 2014
tbaba1234:


They don't need anyone to house them, they have guns.... the people who fail to flee tge areas, they capture are subjected to their rule.

you dont understand what has been happening. when soldier come they hide their guns and reintegrate into the larger society of fellow muslim northerners who will not give them away it is the christians or those who oppose the modus who flee. soldiers cannot tell who is Boko and who is not. But if they come to the south even their northern brothers will discourage them cos they will be singled out for profiling and thus exposed rather easily. Remember that in the early days Borno elders said boko haram are their children and so GEJ must not use excessive force on them. Even youths on their streets who are not members think it is cool to affiliate to them. see pic below

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Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by fairprince(m): 7:20pm On Nov 08, 2014
bitweezy:
Unfortunately most of the dim-wit-blame-it-all-on Jonathan, would be too lazy to read through. Am not a pro Jonathan but he is not our first bad president as we have not been lucky as a country or in Africa generally with leaders.

Terrorism is a Global thing and only countries with advanced intelligence group like CIA, MI6, KGB or Mossad can quell them.

Expecting GEJ to conquer terrorism is almost like asking us to go to the moon

The Northern politicians thought they could use it to discredit the current government by making the country ungovernable but their executors had a more sinister plan.

Anyone who thinks this government is totally incompetent due to the current insecurity has been check mated and is exactly were the northern politicians want you to be.

I know the government can do better but we are all a corrupt bunch, the extra funding to fight terrorism has made most military personnel very rich.
u nailed it there...

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Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by tbaba1234: 7:21pm On Nov 08, 2014
spikesC:


That, is quite understandable but doesn't make them any less of an islam.

You wouldn't debate that most of what they believe in are islamic laws. We have them in our own bible.

It is up to the individual to decide what he follows and up to other people to respect those views; And the only difference between BH and other moslems is the later

Belief in islamic law is rather general because most muslims would disagree on BH interpretation and execution. They are many grounds for debate there as well.

For instance, There are very clear guidelines for combat but BH has broken every single one of them. How can you believe in 'Islamic law' and flout it at your whim.

There are too many examples of this.
Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by udatso: 7:26pm On Nov 08, 2014
spikesC:


Is it that you didn't read the post or you chose to be daft?

They're pushing islam to its core. Their ideas not talling with yours doesn't make it not being 'islam'.

Afterall you guys have sunni and shi'a islam just like we have catholic, pentecostal etc.

Deal with the problem at hand and stop playing the blame game
I think the questions you asked are meant for you. from the post we learnt that Muslims are not safe from boko haram as long as you oppose them. That's why I said it's not a Muslim
Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by udatso: 7:27pm On Nov 08, 2014
spikesC:


Is it that you didn't read the post or you chose to be daft?

They're pushing islam to its core. Their ideas not talling with yours doesn't make it not being 'islam'.

Afterall you guys have sunni and shi'a islam just like we have catholic, pentecostal etc.

Deal with the problem at hand and stop playing the blame game
I think the questions you asked are meant for you. from the post we learnt that Muslims are not safe from boko haram as long as you oppose them. That's why I said it's not a Muslims against Christian thing anymore, it's more than that. is it that you didn't read the post or you chose to be daft?

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Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by Code213: 7:30pm On Nov 08, 2014
ichidodo:
Depends on what part of the south they seek to occupy..My best bet will be southwest, with its strong moslem population it will be a cake walk for them...Or they might just consolidate their territorial gains in the North and establish a Caliphate....Nigeria's sins are catching up to her...

How old are you? You talk like a child!!

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Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by Code213: 7:33pm On Nov 08, 2014
udatso:

I think the questions you asked are meant for you. from the post we learnt that Muslims are not safe from boko haram as long as you oppose them. That's why I said it's not a Muslims against Christian thing anymore, it's more than that. is it that you didn't read the post or you chose to be daft?

Beautiful comment.

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Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by DonaldGenes(m): 7:35pm On Nov 08, 2014
I can't Shout

Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by Akpan107(m): 7:36pm On Nov 08, 2014
tbaba1234:


This has nothing to do with 'Northern Politicians'.

The government has been largely ineffective and have failed in the times when we needed strong leadership. That is a fact.
Ok..! It has nothing to do with Northern Politician? They should keep watching while their region is being distroyed.
It cant stop GEJ from contesting and winning this 2015 Election. Keep bleming... If need be, you will blem him from now to 2019.

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Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by Code213: 7:39pm On Nov 08, 2014
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out -
Because I was not a Trade Unionist

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me"

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Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by Code213: 7:41pm On Nov 08, 2014
Akpan107:
Ok..! It has nothing to do with Northern Politician? They should keep watching while their region is being distroyed.
It cant stop GEJ from contesting and winning this 2015 Election. Keep bleming... If need be, you will blem him from now to 2019.

You should be quarantined before u infect people with ur stuuupidity!!

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Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by temitemi1(m): 7:42pm On Nov 08, 2014
Who go read dis long tori because of boko boys? ??
Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by Akpan107(m): 7:49pm On Nov 08, 2014
udatso:

I think the questions you asked are meant for you. from the post we learnt that Muslims are not safe from boko haram as long as you oppose them. That's why I said it's not a Muslim
*then, what do they believe in?
*What religion do they base there fighting to protect.
What book do they use in defending *what they doing?

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Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by ichidodo: 7:54pm On Nov 08, 2014
Code213:


How old are you? You talk like a child!!
Trash...

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Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by didactic70: 7:55pm On Nov 08, 2014
major466:
I don't trust this Salkida guy. He sound more like a Boko Haram information agent, briefing people about activities of the Demons in human form - Boko Haram.
BTW, there's no excuse whatsoever for a Group to kill thousands of innocent people for a stupid cause, a religious one at that. None!! Boko haram are murderers and they all deserve to be Shot on the head.
Whether u trust him or not is d point.d enormity of d reality on ground is d most important.this he pointed out.bh should b dealt with ruthlessness that exceeds theirs.until a violence is countered by an exceeding one,it festers.
Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by Akpan107(m): 8:18pm On Nov 08, 2014
Code213:


You should quarantined before u infect people with ur stuuupidity!!
Sorry, i'm not very good at name calling... I must not believe in everything you say here and i must not force you believe me too. We should all debate contructively.
Let me still repeat what i said earlier.
''The Northern Politician should keep watching while there region is being destroyed''
at the end of the day, we would see who will lose.
Sometimes you think you can disqualify GEJ with bombs, never!
He's already on the seat and must continue till 2019 then, handover to whoever he likes. So live with that fact.

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Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by hansad: 8:32pm On Nov 08, 2014
tbaba1234:


Belief in islamic law is rather general because most muslims would disagree on BH interpretation and execution. They are many grounds for debate there as well.

For instance, There are very clear guidelines for combat but BH has broken every single one of them. How can you believe in 'Islamic law' and flout it at your whim.

There are too many examples of this.



But if BH succedes in its fight and Nigeria becomes a country governed under Islamic Sharia laws , which is actually what BH has been fighting for, most Nigerian Muslims shall wellcome that.

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Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by Eillo(m): 8:35pm On Nov 08, 2014
Akpan107 should be ignored. he has been paid for doing his job: advancing political propaganda for whoever his employers are. there are several of them on nairaland. they will manage to mention GEJ or GMB on any thread at all, never mind that it is irrelevant to the the ongoing discussion.

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Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by Eillo(m): 8:37pm On Nov 08, 2014
hansad:
But if BH succedes in its fight and Nigeria becomes a country governed under Islamic Sharia laws , which is actually what BH has been fighting for, most Nigerian Muslims shall wellcome that.

and I suppose you have conducted public polls and have sampled vast public opinion to arrive at such a conclusion. innit?
Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by tbaba1234: 8:42pm On Nov 08, 2014
hansad:
But if BH succedes in its fight and Nigeria becomes a country governed under Islamic Sharia laws , which is actually what BH has been fighting for, most Nigerian Muslims shall wellcome that.

Not Boko Haram's interpretation of the Sharia, Don't you get it?? Boko Haram is an aberration.
Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by Dewze(m): 8:45pm On Nov 08, 2014
So really, which petrol station does boko haram use? The tbaba1234 did not say, the salkida guy did not say. I think this question is more important than how they get their weapons.
Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by tbaba1234: 8:50pm On Nov 08, 2014
Dewze:
So really, which petrol station does boko haram use? The tbaba1234 did not say, the salkida guy did not say. I think this question is more important than how they get their weapons.

I do not know, the article was not written by me. If i am to guess, I'd say that filling stations within their region of control will be a source of fuel. Including those in Army barracks seized. Also they might smuggle fuel tankers into their areas of control.
Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by Dolypson04(m): 8:56pm On Nov 08, 2014
I think it's high time we forgot about the Chibok girls. This has been the sole ransom with which the deadly group has been clipping the government wing. Most of these girls life has already been shattered. I understand that anybody cud fall a victim of terrorism. Some of these girls may even be my family. Any nations that thrive today had made a lot of sacrifices.
Also swapping BH members in prison is totally out of it. Come to think of it, a single member released is capable of capturing hundreds of girls.
Its very obvious that BH are Muslims but extremist. I have watched Shekau criticizing Saudi Arabia and even pledging to destroy its citizen.
Fight against terrorism is a fight for all cos if they successfully conquer the North then be sure that its either they conquer the other regions as well or Nigeria divide. And we should be expecting a similar case to North and South Sudan, North and South Korea.
I don't agree in any form of amnesty or peaceful dialogue with them. They are not the type that repent. They wud rather die for their cause.

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Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by Eillo(m): 9:01pm On Nov 08, 2014
Dolypson04:
I think it's high time we forgot about the Chibok girls. This has been the sole ransom with which the deadly group has been clipping the government wing. Most of these girls life has already been shattered. I understand that anybody cud fall a victim of terrorism. Some of these girls may even be my family. Any nations that thrive today had made a lot of sacrifices.
Also swapping BH members in prison is totally out of it. Come to think of it, a single member released is capable of capturing hundreds of girls.
Its very obvious that BH are Muslims but extremist. I have watched Shekau criticizing Saudi Arabia and even pledging to destroy its citizen.
Fight against terrorism is a fight for all cos if they successfully conquer the North then be sure that its either they conquer the other regions as well or Nigeria divide. And we should be expecting a similar case to North and South Sudan, North and South Korea.
I don't agree in any form of amnesty or peaceful dialogue with them. They are not the type that repent. They wud rather die for their cause.
we should d forget 200 girls.... mmm.... that is some advice. I could understand if you only said u don't support dialogue but forgetting the girls? well.....so what happens when an additional 200 are kidnapped ? forget them too?
Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by hansad: 9:49pm On Nov 08, 2014
Eillo:


and I suppose you have conducted public polls and have sampled vast public opinion to arrive at such a conclusion. innit?
If BH eventuallly gets Aso Rock either by bullet or by 2015 ballot, and as surely expected, it makes Nigeria a country governed by Islamic sharia criminal laws, most Nigerian Muslims shall wellcome that; no need to conduct opinion polls, facts on ground show that. For example, when the political class from 12 majority Muslim northern states adopted use of sharia criminal laws - amputation for stealing, stoningfor adultery, etc. - Muslims all over Nigeria, including the normally moderate Muslims in the southwest, did not protest that. In fact, it is from Southwest of Nigeria that one of the region's prominent Muslim politicians suggested that the Sarduana of Sokoto be renamed the Sarduana of Nigeria.

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Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by hansad: 9:50pm On Nov 08, 2014
Eillo:


and I suppose you have conducted public polls and have sampled vast public opinion to arrive at such a conclusion. innit?
If BH eventuallly gets Aso Rock either by bullet or by 2015 ballot, and as surely expected, it makes Nigeria a country governed by Islamic sharia criminal laws, most Nigerian Muslims shall wellcome that; no need to conduct opinion polls, facts on ground show that. For example, when the political class from 12 majority Muslim northern states adopted use of sharia criminal laws - amputation for stealing, stoningfor adultery, etc. - Muslims all over Nigeria, including the normally moderate Muslims in the southwest, did not protest that. In fact, it is from Southwest of Nigeria that one of the region's prominent Muslim politicians suggested that the Sarduana of Sokoto be renamed the Sarduana of Nigeria. That was about ten years ago.
Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by Mordyb: 9:50pm On Nov 08, 2014
Finally a post that can arouse intellectually this problem would have ended by February during the heavy campaign by the military but boko haram sympathizers claimed that there were human rights breaches but in my little existence I have never heard of a war(yes a war because believe it or not Nigeria is at war) where a party that has embedded it root into innocent civilians wont have some skirmishes

boko haram has over the past few months graduated from unconventional guerrilla tatics to full faced attacks.
if i was a military adviser i would advice the C in C to embark on mass strategic placing of military officials because if you notice during the heavy military campaign there was some shaking up in the ranks of all security forces because this would limit the promptness at which information is leaked because you wont know who the commanding officer would be at any moment and info would come from up and be sent up directly to the central command without going through many filters who might be boko sympathizers

secondly massive bombardment of using net system whereby all the affected regions must be surrounded and attacked simultaneously and with every area conquered a mini base be established with personnel that can respond in 15minutes if other bases are under attack and have a backup for a backup

thirdly creation of a central command that solely report to Mr. president every day with advisement on certain level of intelligence reports be given by the security council and not only the NSA . Also welfare and funds for support of troops and equipment should be handled by an attaché from the minister of finance who wont be interfered with by the military sent to the central command who takes orders from the president on matters aside from that of salaries, benefit and remuneration to avoid situations where soldiers complain of lack of pay

fourthly INTELLIGENCE INTELLIGENCE INTELLIGENCE
if its not invested in would result in loss of innocent lives and innocent civilians being sympathetic being sympathetic to cause of this fundamentalist also the organize better air raid since we don't have drones

this and many more and within one month boko destroyed for Good

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Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by Nobody: 9:51pm On Nov 08, 2014
I think it's time for us (Moslems and Christians) to tell our selves the truth and unite to fight this group
Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by smoothpapuzy(m): 10:00pm On Nov 08, 2014
The Igbo nation saw this a long time ago. To the rest nations, good morning, for you guys have been sleeping for years.

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Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by PerfectlyPerfect(m): 10:01pm On Nov 08, 2014
the presidency seems to be indecisive about a course of action; military action today and amnesty 2moro. the united States doesn't condone any act of terrorism in its territories because they realise you can never really stop terrorism till you stop the terrorists.
our polithiefcians r more concerned wif battling for a share of d national cake. which way Nigeria?
Re: Why Boko Haram Fight And Some Recommendations For Quelling Their Insurgency. by ldpele(m): 10:28pm On Nov 08, 2014
[quote author=tbaba1234 post=27840436]

They don't need anyone to house them, they have guns.... the people who fail to flee tge areas, they capture are subjected to their rule.[/quote) u talk as if they r spirits who can been seen, they don't live in abstract,tell the northern people to expose them,even in caves,they can be smoked out, but when u tend to hoard or hide those killer,u leave ur region with no choice than to reduce ur populace

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