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What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:01am On Nov 15, 2014
Question: "What is the hypostatic union? How can Jesus be both God and man at the same time?"

Answer: The hypostatic union is the term used to describe how God the Son, Jesus Christ, took on a human nature, yet remained fully God at the same time. Jesus always had been God (John 8:58, 10:30), but at the incarnation Jesus became a human being (John 1:14). The addition of the human nature to the divine nature is Jesus, the God-man. This is the hypostatic union, Jesus Christ, one Person, fully God and fully man.

Jesus' two natures, human and divine, are inseparable. Jesus will forever be the God-man, fully God and fully human, two distinct natures in one Person. Jesus' humanity and divinity are not mixed, but are united without loss of separate identity. Jesus sometimes operated with the limitations of humanity (John 4:6, 19:28) and other times in the power of His deity (John 11:43; Matthew 14:18-21). In both, Jesus' actions were from His one Person. Jesus had two natures, but only one personality.

The doctrine of the hypostatic union is an attempt to explain how Jesus could be both God and man at the same time. It is ultimately, though, a doctrine we are incapable of fully understanding. It is impossible for us to fully understand how God works. We, as human beings with finite minds, should not expect to totally comprehend an infinite God. Jesus is God’s Son in that He was conceived by the Holy Spirit (Luke 1:35). But that does not mean Jesus did not exist before He was conceived. Jesus has always existed (John 8:58, 10:30). When Jesus was conceived, He became a human being in addition to being God (John 1:1, 14).

Jesus is both God and man. Jesus has always been God, but He did not become a human being until He was conceived in Mary. Jesus became a human being in order to identify with us in our struggles (Hebrews 2:17) and, more importantly, so that He could die on the cross to pay the penalty for our sins (Philippians 2:5-11). In summary, the hypostatic union teaches that Jesus is both fully human and fully divine, that there is no mixture or dilution of either nature, and that He is one united Person, forever.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/hypostatic-union.html#ixzz3J5gCbdPu

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Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by AfricanApple(f): 1:05am On Nov 15, 2014
dat means he left his throne in heaven and came down to earth undecided
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by herald9: 1:20am On Nov 15, 2014
[size=20pt]IF YOU DIE IT'S CONFUSION THAT WILL KILL YOU OP.... CATHOLICS CONFUSING THEMSELVES SINCE 419BC grin [/size]

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Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by chacoonder(m): 5:52am On Nov 15, 2014
@Op...Jesus is not God..Its an absolute misconception.
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by idu1(m): 6:03am On Nov 15, 2014
Jesus is not God nd God is not Jesus......

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Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by haffaze777(m): 6:42am On Nov 15, 2014
confused soul
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by Nobody: 7:13am On Nov 15, 2014
AfricanApple:
dat means he left his throne in heaven and came down to earth undecided

God has a throne? shocked

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Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by johnydon22(m): 8:04am On Nov 15, 2014
christians are still confused... they dont even know within themselves whether jesus is God or not....christians are the most confused people their is

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Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by PastorAIO: 11:13am On Nov 15, 2014
OLAADEGBU:
Question: "What is the hypostatic union? How can Jesus be both God and man at the same time?"

Jesus' two natures, human and divine, are inseparable. Jesus will forever be the God-man, fully God and fully human, two distinct natures in one Person.
Jesus has always existed (John 8:58, 10:30). When Jesus was conceived, He became a human being in addition to being God (John 1:1, 14).

Jesus is both God and man. Jesus has always been God, but He did not become a human being until He was conceived in Mary. Jesus became a human being in order to identify with us

The question that I want to ask, dear doctor, is this ....

Before Jesus was conceived in Mary, when he was in heaven ...... was he also fully Human then? Or did the Hypostatic, 2 natures thingy only start when he was conceived in Mary.

because the way you are talking it seems as if you want to redefine the word 'nature'. Nature, from 'natus' in latin, meaning the way you were Born. Nature thus suggests an intrinsic aspect of your being. Apart from the logical difficulty with having 2 natures ( it would be easier if it were 1 nature that manifested in 2 different ways but this matter has already been thrashed out with the Monophysites long time ago), a nature is something that has always being with you from the beginning, therefore Jesus must always have been Human too.
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by Nobody: 4:03pm On Nov 15, 2014
Straight from the desk of S. Michael Houdmann, Christianity dumbed down for the incredibly daft. This doctrine of the “Hypostatic Union” is hogwash and is merely the latest in a long litany of erroneous teachings from the stable of this fellow. Christianity should take care that it does not go the way of others long gone.

The gods of Egypt shrugged off their burden of stones and fled to the Nubian desert, to be free among those who are still free from knowing.

The gods of Greece and Rome vanished into their own sunset. Having become too much like men and imbibing of the ecstasy of Man. The groves in which their divinity was born long cut down by the axes of the Greeks and the Romans and turned into luxury high-rises.

Roman Emperors taught us the blindingly obvious that no one conceived of a woman can be God.

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Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:32am On Nov 16, 2014
AfricanApple:


dat means he left his throne in heaven and came down to earth undecided

Yes. cool
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:35am On Nov 16, 2014
PastorAIO:


The question that I want to ask, dear doctor, is this ....

Before Jesus was conceived in Mary, when he was in heaven ...... was he also fully Human then? Or did the Hypostatic, 2 natures thingy only start when he was conceived in Mary.

because the way you are talking it seems as if you want to redefine the word 'nature'. Nature, from 'natus' in latin, meaning the way you were Born. Nature thus suggests an intrinsic aspect of your being. Apart from the logical difficulty with having 2 natures ( it would be easier if it were 1 nature that manifested in 2 different ways but this matter has already been thrashed out with the Monophysites long time ago), a nature is something that has always being with you from the beginning, therefore Jesus must always have been Human too.

I'll allow this article to deal with your objections.

Son of God/Son of Man
November 15, 2014

"And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head" (Matthew 8:20)

It is significant that although Christ clearly taught that He was the unique Son of God, He most frequently referred to Himself as Son of man, earnestly desiring that people understand His true and representative humanity.

The first use of the phrase is in Psalm 8:4: “What is . . . the son of man, that thou visitest him?” Although David may have been thinking of all “sons of Adam” in general, the writer of Hebrews applied the passage specifically to Christ (Hebrews 2:6), “that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man” (Hebrews 2:9). In order to save lost men, God in Christ had to become man through supernatural incarnation. Then, as perfect, sinless man, He could represent us before God, finally tasting death for every man.

The vital importance of the incarnation is affirmed by John: “Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God” (1 John 4:2-3). It is noteworthy that Satan and his evil spirits would recognize Christ as the Son of God (Matthew 4:3; 8:28-29) but never as the Son of man! This reluctance seems also to characterize all the occultic philosophies of the so-called “New Age” movement, as well as all ancient and modern pantheistic religions. They speak glibly of “the Christ” as a spirit which might come on many, but bitterly refuse to acknowledge that the man Jesus was actually the Son of man, God incarnate.

Finally, it is thrilling to realize that, although He only became the Son of man through His incarnation, He will always remain the Son of man! John saw Him in His glory—as we shall see Him in eternity—as “one like unto the Son of man” (Revelation 1:13; 14:14). HMM

For more . . . .
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by TopsyKrete: 8:27am On Nov 16, 2014
It is written, "in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God" (John 1:1).
John 1:2 could be rewrite like this "in the beginning was God, and God was with the Word, and God was the Word"

Do you believe that Jesus Christ is the Word of God?
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by PastorAIO: 12:08pm On Nov 17, 2014
OLAADEGBU:


I'll allow this article to deal with your objections.



Your article deals with nothing. My question was simple.

Before Jesus' incarnation as son of Mary, WAS Jesus Human?

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Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by CAPTIVATOR: 8:02pm On Nov 17, 2014
This guy makes God Justice stupid .......... Adam that sinned is a perferct human , so if Jesus Is A God-man then the ransom has not been paid (inequality), So All humans are still in their sins !!! Is jesus a God -man ?? Here what his apostles have to say " for there is one God, and one mediator between God and man, a man,Christ Jesus" 1tim 2:5 ! A Man , That Scripture Says A Man, infact it calls him an intercessor btw God and man, a man !!! Once again, i have to remind u that we humans are made a little lower than angels as written in psalm 8:5,6 , what about Jesus ?? Here is it Jesus " was made a little lower than the angels" heb 2:9 !! Can u see dat ! How can a God - man be lower than angels ?? Is it not written in psalms 8:4-6 that humans are those lower than angels!! @ op ... U need to sit down and meditate and stop all dis copy and paste of urs

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Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:34pm On Nov 19, 2014
PastorAIO:



Your article deals with nothing. My question was simple.

Before Jesus' incarnation as son of Mary, WAS Jesus Human?

No. Excerpts from the article:

Finally, it is thrilling to realize that, although He only became the Son of man through His incarnation, He will always remain the Son of man! John saw Him in His glory—as we shall see Him in eternity—as “one like unto the Son of man” (Revelation 1:13; 14:14).
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by PastorAIO: 11:28am On Nov 22, 2014
OLAADEGBU:


No. Excerpts from the article:


If Jesus wasn't human before he incarnated in the flesh then his humanity was grafted on, it wasn't a part of his nature.
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:43am On Nov 24, 2014
PastorAIO:


If Jesus wasn't human before he incarnated in the flesh then his humanity was grafted on, it wasn't a part of his nature.

And what's wrong with that? undecided
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by simplex2: 6:25am On Nov 24, 2014
AfricanApple:
dat means he left his throne in heaven and came down to earth undecided


OLAADEGBU:


Yes. cool

So when Jesus was on earth, there was no God in heaven? Who then did he pray to while on the cross?
'Father, father, why hast thou forsaken me?'

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Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by malakh7: 7:52am On Nov 24, 2014

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Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:27pm On Nov 24, 2014
simplex2:


So when Jesus was on earth, there was no God in heaven? Who then did he pray to while on the cross?
'Father, father, why hast thou forsaken me?'

"And Jesus, when He was baptised, lo, the heavens were opened unto Him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon Him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased" (Matthew 3:16-17).

This is trinity is action. The Son being immersed in water here on earth. The voice of the Father from heaven testifying of the Son and the Holy Spirit testifying through the dove. This is God in 3 Persons present at Jesus' baptism here on earth.
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:29pm On Nov 24, 2014
malakh7:
confused bunch.

[img]https://www.nairaland.com/attachment/1888761_screenshot201411240703391_jpege83e87b68864bc6fad9f99c15aabffd5[/img]

You point one finger and guess how many are pointing back to you. shocked
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by Cuteclem: 12:51pm On Nov 24, 2014
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by simplex2: 8:58pm On Nov 24, 2014
OLAADEGBU:


"And Jesus, when He was baptised, lo, the heavens were opened unto Him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon Him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased" (Matthew 3:16-17).

This is trinity is action. The Son being immersed in water here on earth. The voice of the Father from heaven testifying of the Son and the Holy Spirit testifying through the dove. This is God in 3 Persons present at Jesus' baptism here on earth.

Still didn't answer me question: when Jesus was at the cross, who did he pray to in heaven saying 'father, why hath thou forsaken me?'
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by AfricanApple(f): 11:11am On Nov 26, 2014
simplex2:




So when Jesus was on earth, there was no God in heaven? Who then did he pray to while on the cross?
'Father, father, why hast thou forsaken me?'
are u asking me?
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:56pm On Dec 13, 2014
herald9:


[size=20pt]IF YOU DIE IT'S CONFUSION THAT WILL KILL YOU OP.... CATHOLICS CONFUSING THEMSELVES SINCE 419BC grin [/size]

What are you confused about?
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:59pm On Dec 13, 2014
chacoonder:


@Op...Jesus is not God..Its an absolute misconception.

Jesus is not only fully God, He is fully Man.
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:00pm On Dec 13, 2014
idu1:


Jesus is not God nd God is not Jesus......

How did you arrive at that assertion?
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:00pm On Dec 13, 2014
haffaze777:


confused soul

Who is confused, you? undecided
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:01pm On Dec 13, 2014
musKeeto:


God has a throne? shocked

Do you believe God exists?
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:03pm On Dec 13, 2014
johnydon22:


christians are still confused... they dont even know within themselves whether jesus is God or not....christians are the most confused people their is

Who said Christians are confused? Could you be speaking for yourself? undecided
Re: What Is The Hypostatic Union? How Can Jesus Be Both God And Man Simultaneously by johnydon22(m): 4:05pm On Dec 13, 2014
OLAADEGBU:


Who said Christians are confused? Could you be speaking for yourself? undecided

oh am sorry if i stepped on ur toes... but this thread is one out of many that potrays the confusion in christianity... why are y'all still debating if Jesus is God or not

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