haffaze777:
hmmmm ask brother paul of tarsus

davien:
[b] Malvisguy212,
where did you get your "two camps of agnosticism" notion from....gnostic implies knowledge...agnosticism implies lack of knowledge...
Therefore there should be either;

Gnostic theist: With the claim of knowledge affirming that "gods/god" exists.

Agnostic theist: With the lack of knowledge that "gods/god" exists but still believes albeit less like he/she regards the claim as true...

Agnostic atheist: A lack of belief that requests what each persons "god/gods" are and ask if the belief can be verified or justified...belief is withdrawn till it can be justified. Unjustified beliefs are dismissed...

Gnostic atheist: A lack of belief that puts the "god/gods" assertion as false upon investigating the lack of evidence and suspends belief till the belief is justified...

And malvisguy...isn't it bias to consider yours as "different from the rest" when its foundation is on judaism...or is judaism partly right? [/b]

herald9:
If you should try shortening the learnt of your epistle perhaps it'll make a good reading.

Or use bold fonts in the sub-topic to make it more captivating...

For now I could hardly read talk less of knowing what to reply.

malvisguy212:
correct me if am wrong, agnostic are a set of confused people,they believe there is God but dosent know which one is true,because of the supernatural happening around them, they cant explain it, so they cant just believe there is no God, am i right?

malvisguy212:
thank you for your contribution, take a rest, letter in the day continue reading from were you stop.

urheme:



Still beleive God exist but i don't see religion as a way to God.

urheme:



Still beleive God exist but i don't see religion as a way to God.

davien:
Agnostics may/may not regard the "supernatural" or "god/gods" as likely but also stands that such knowledge of the "supernatural,god,gods" cannot be known..
I wouldn't say an agnostic is confused, but the term has been marketed as a middle round when in reality it is merely lack of knowledge theists and atheists have towards the "supernatural,god,gods" claims..

I myself would fall within the agnostic atheist..although I prefer the term "atheist" alone.
And please answer my question...how can christianity be different when it shares and derives most of its tenets from judaism...

malvisguy212:
Goodluck with your search for a way to God, but do you think you can define holiness for God?

malvisguy212:
then my first statment in the op was correct.

To your question.
Judaism says that the Messiah is coming,
Christianity says that He has come and died for our sin,authormaticaly judaism dosent belivev in the free gift of God in christ jesus which is salvation to mankind.

davien:
So the difference is that one claims the "messiah" is yet to come and the other one claims the "messiah" had already appeared..okay
So how do you know that the "messiah" indeed appeared if nobody(historians) recorded it apart from the bible that claims it and other hearsay accounts?
And if such a man as "jesus" were true...would the "divinity" around "jesus" also be true?
Even still....if christianity has core foundations in judaism doesn't that imply that jews too are somewhat the intended audience...herego the use of "yahweh" a.k.a "god of the jews"

urheme:


Holiness is a religious terminology, it has nothing to do with God,
Abi is holiness part of the concotion God use in creating people?

malvisguy212:
CHRISTIANITY IS DIFFERENT :
No other religion provides a provision for God's forgiveness of
sin, which is why I believe Christianity to be the only true way
to God. Jesus said He is the only way to God and that all people
must follow Him to enter heaven. All other religions are man's attempt to become acceptable to God. Only Christianity says
that God alone provides the only means to be acceptable to
Him. So, either Christianity is true and all other religions are false or
Christianity is false and God does not hold people accountable for law
breaking. Personally, I would not want to rely upon God ignoring His
own rules. It doesn't seem to be logical reasoning. This is the choice you must make.

malvisguy212:
in the beginning, God created us in his image, we are holy and sinles, that is how God want us to be, but becaus of freewill,God alow evil to happen for human to express true love for God,without evil non can express love for God or each other,but in christianity, beliving in jesus make you a new creation,born again meaning you are a new creation just like how God created you from the beginning,infact is as if satan has never infected you with sin before. THIS IS THE HOLINESS OF GOD.

In a court of law,if you are being found gulty no matter your good deed,you will be judge accordingly , you see,the moral law of God apply to the physical law that is what christian preach,with the grace of Jesus gives us.this is how you will know the true religeon, but most religeon believe that you will be judge base on your good deed, even when you are gulty of the crime commited you will not be punish, can we then called God a righteous judge?

malvisguy212:
there are many historical quote about jesus that prove the christians are his follower

the major doctrine of christianity is the death and ressurection of jesus which judaism deny,

psalm11 say if the foundation is faulty what can the righteous do?

On many occation bible say jesus is our solid and new foundation.

herald9:
Lolz Davien... Engaging Malvis is a waste of time...

All he does his squirm about throwing different portions of the Bible at you Which do not even correlate with the matter at hand...


Dude need total brain overhaul .

malvisguy212:
what has paul got to do with the op?

malvisguy212:
in the beginning, God created us in his image, we are holy and sinles, that is how God want us to be, but becaus of freewill,God alow evil to happen for human to express true love for God,without evil non can express love for God or each other,but in christianity, beliving in jesus make you a new creation,born again meaning you are a new creation just like how God created you from the beginning,infact is as if satan has never infected you with sin before. THIS IS THE HOLINESS OF GOD.

In a court of law,if you are being found gulty no matter your good deed,you will be judge accordingly , you see,the moral law of God apply to the physical law that is what christian preach,with the grace of Jesus gives us.this is how you will know the true religeon, but most religeon believe that you will be judge base on your good deed, even when you are gulty of the crime commited you will not be punish, can we then called God a righteous judge?

malvisguy212:

BASIC RELIGEON CLAIM:
Since many religious claims contradict one another, it would seem that not all religions could be simultaneously true. How can we tell which religion(s) are true?

cannot erase our bad moral choices. Think of it in terms of our legal systems. We are convicted of crimes on the basis of breaking the law. If we break a law, we are found guilty under the law. It doesn't matterbwhat good things we have done in our lives, if we break the law. We might get a lesser sentence,but we will still be convicted of a crime.
So, God cannot simply ignore our crimes against Him. We will be found guilty, despite our good works. Christianity says that our bad deeds (sins) must be eliminated in order to be acceptable to God. The elimination of sins was accomplished by the sacrifice of the Savior (Jesus Christ). Jesus Christ is God Himself, who came to earth, led a sinless life, and died on the cross as a sacrifice to take the sins of mankind. So, God Himself provided a means of eliminating our sins against Him. However, the elimination of sins is not automatic. Since
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malvisguy212:
OAM4J . Can you put this on the homepage?

Kay17:


Sin is possible only under a moral law such as is found in the Bible. What if the Bible is one of the many perspectives of morality? That would change everything we understand about morality. It would change the erroneous idea that there is an absolute morality. The Bible itself is proof of this. Within the Bible, are two wills or testaments: the Old testament and the New testament. The moral regime in both are different from one another. The Golden Rule of love thy neighbour as thyself is absent in the Old testament. The Golden Rule follows that Compassion is the basis of morality.

And I have searched the length and breadth of the Old testament, and haven't found the Golden Rule. Rather in Job, God declares he is the Almighty, Lord of Good and Evil

Rilwayne001:


Since many xtianity sects doctrine contradicts one another that they even go to the extent of saying there sect is the only sects going to heaven and all other sects are going to hell, it shows that xtianity is a crook religion going by its 41,000 denominations all over the world.

Cus i wonder how you can tell the sect that is true from them








I have lot to say here^^… I will like to engage you on the bolded, please malvisguy212, create a thread about this sin offering and lets talk about.

urheme:




Religion and law are two different things, in our current dispensation, religion is religated to the background and silent in a place were law trive,
There is reality in law because it regulate the whole society, one is sanctioned or punished for a breech of it.

There is no reality in religion in that, its punishment and reward of eternal life is after physical death, we are not convince because religion is only a believe system.

malvisguy212:
your earlier post indicate you belivev in God, have you ever encounter this God? I mean personal relationship with him, what has this God don to you?do you believe in life after death?