CANTICLES:


JEHOVAH is the principal saviour (isa 43:11) , often his salvation his through men whom he raised up as saviours , Nehemiah 9:27 says " God give isrealites SAVIOURS to rescue them out of the hand of their adversaries"

judges 3:9 reports " JEHOVAH raise up a saviour to rescue the isrealites, othniel the son of Kenaz" ........ This doesnt mean Othniel is God, just an agent

judges 3:15 also reports " Jehovah raise up for them a saviour, Ehud the son of Gera" ........ This doesnt mean Ehud is God, just an agent

for redemption of the whole world " Father sent his son as saviour of the world" - 1joh 4:14 !

Interestingly, the name "Jesus ( hebrew yeshua )" means " Jehovah is salvation" !! This name points out that Jehovah is the source of salvation accomplished through Jesus !

........ Pls explain 1cor 15: 24-28 for this thread

CAPTIVATOR:


@ op .......... Pls explain 1cor 15:24-28 for this thread ooooo

MrPresident1:


God is not numerically one, God is many, in complete oneness and perfect unity.

OLAADEGBU:


"Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature" (Colossians 1:15).

What you should know is that the One who created all things and brought to life all beings is the Word of God, who came in human form in the Person of our Lord Jesus Christ.

An2elect2:


Sir, the scriptures no where ever defined God as a unity. Stop it! Its so clear that our God is one Lord from the old testament down to the new testament.

What other stronger term could God have used in consistently describing Himself as one singular(Lord) Spirit?

OLAADEGBU:


"You are my witnesses, says the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that you may know and believe  me, and understand that I am He: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me.  I, even I, am the LORD; and beside Me there is no saviour," (Isaiah 43:10,11).

Are you saying that there are other saviours apart from God?

MrPresident1:


Sir, God is one.

But in the kingdom of God, we will all be Gods.

Ezekiel 39:29
Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

An2elect2:


Wait, do you agree that Jesus is also the Father?

An2elect2:


Well,the Word of God is God himself John 1:1 Where does the trinity fit in Sir?

CAPTIVATOR:
@ op .......... Pls explain 1cor 15:24-28 for this thread ooooo

CANTICLES:

CAPTIVATOR:

@ op .......... Pls explain 1cor 15:24-28 for this thread ooooo

Brother , I Really Enjoyed chatting with myself I Really Enjoyed My Time With You !!! But The Truth Is the op will keep givin excuses, He will neva dare explain that scripture u gave him bcoz he will be EXPOSED !

CANTICLES:


Brother , I Really Enjoyed My Time With You !!! But The Truth Is the op will keep givin excuses, He will neva dare explain that scripture u gave him bcoz he will be EXPOSED !

Yooguyz:


CANTICLES:

CAPTIVATOR:

@ op .......... Pls explain 1cor 15:24-28 for this thread ooooo

Brother , I Really Enjoyed chatting with myself I Really Enjoyed My Time With You !!! But The Truth Is the op will keep givin excuses, He will neva dare explain that scripture u gave him bcoz he will be EXPOSED !

Yooguyz:

OLAADEGBU:


The wind has blown...

CANTICLES:
lier ! Why d insertion of what is not mine .... Like father like son , " father d devil, is a lier" john 8:44 !!! u still ignorantly thought am Bernimoore ..... Go back to my his thread as I clarified myself he clarifies himself , and i see d op absorbing ur lies hook and sinker bcoz he wants to divert the thread and avoid the question ICaptivator Gave Him

OLAADEGBU:


Let us consider this John 1:1 to find out:

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

The simple logic of this verse can be summed up as thus:

THE WORD = GOD

In John 1:14 it states:

"The Word became flesh, and dwelt among us."

From these verses we can deduce the following:

JESUS = THE WORD

Simple logic declares that

if A = B and

B = C  then

A = C.

Therefore, since

JESUS = THE WORD and

THE WORD = GOD, then

JESUS = GOD

OLAADEGBU:


No. He is the Son.

An2elect2:


Okay. Who is God in John:1:1? The Father or the 'Trinity'?

"In the beginning was the Word(Son), the Word(Son) was with God(Father) and the Word(Son) was God(Father)"
or
"In the beginning was the Word(Son), the Word(Son) was with God(Trinity) and the Word(Son) was God(Trinity).

Son=Father
Son=Trinity.

That's logic right there.

CANTICLES:


lier ! Why d insertion of what is not mine .... Like father like son , " father d devil, is a lier" john 8:44 !!! u still ignorantly thought am Bernimoore ..... Go back to his thread as he clarifies himself , and i see d op absorbing ur lies hook and sinker bcoz he wants to divert the thread and avoid the question Captivator Gave Him

OLAADEGBU:


Let us consider this John 1:1 to find out:

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

The simple logic of this verse can be summed up as thus:

THE WORD = GOD

In John 1:14 it states:

"The Word became flesh, and dwelt among us."

From these verses we can deduce the following:

JESUS = THE WORD

Simple logic declares that

if A = B and

B = C  then

A = C.

Therefore, since

JESUS = THE WORD and

THE WORD = GOD, then

JESUS = GOD

An2elect2:


Oh my! what blasphemy!!! you? you who was made out of dust? you who had a beginning? you who is like a worm? Did i just read this nonsense you just typed? That "we" will all be Gods? After reading the whole book of Isaiah you came to this? didn't Isaiah 43:10 even struck you.

Haaaar liar. You quote scriptures like your father.

OLAADEGBU:
What did Jesus mean when He said, "I and the Father are one" in John 10:30?

RikoduoSennin:


Please tell me What kind of God is Jesus?

Because;

John 1:2 "He (Jesus) was in the beginning WITH GOD"--- How is that possible? Was the word with himself? Or was he with someone else called God? If the latter, was God (Jesus/word) with another God (Not Jesus/Word)? If so how many God are there?

John 1:14 - Jesus was seen with his glory.

What kind of Glory was that? The Glory of/belonging to a God? Or to a "ONLY BEGOTTEN SON of THE FATHER", what does "Begotten" mean in English dictionary?.

John 1:18 "No one has seen God: THE ONLY SON, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has made him known". Compare John 6:46 "Not anyone has seen the Father except him who is FROM GOD (Jehovah); he has seen the Father.

Many men saw Jesus, So which kind of God is Jesus again?

What kind of God is Jesus if he clearly called Jehovah "THE ONLY TRUE GOD" @ John 17:3, surely there must other false God's if there is an only true one.

OLAADEGBU:


The Jews were guilty of using selective memory.

MrPresident1:


Lol. you are too quick mouthed.

A simple question for you...

When God pours His spirit upon you, what do you become?

OLAADEGBU:


You ask that question because you don't understand the doctrine of the Trinity. God is both personal and plural. The Father is God. The Son is God and the Holy Spirit is God and yet there is One God or rather One God in three Persons. Study the diagram I posted earlier for clarification.

OLAADEGBU:


What you should be asking is: what does it mean to call Jesus the Son of God?

OLAADEGBU:

Does the title applied to Jesus, Son of God, imply that He is different than God? No. Jesus is the only begotten Son of God (John 3:16), while Christians are adopted sons of God (Romans 8:15-17).  Christians are called adopted sons of God because we are different from God and must become His children (hence, adopted, not begotten).  Jesus is not called adopted because He never became God's Son, but has always been God's Son .  Calling Jesus the only begotten Son of God means that He is of the same nature as God, not a different nature :

OLAADEGBU:

There is a clear distinction between making and begetting, that is, you cannot make what you beget.  What you make is different from yourself, what you beget has your nature.  Therefore to call Jesus the only begotten Son is to say that He has God's nature and was not made.  Since He has God's nature, He is, by definition, God and therefore eternal.  If Jesus was created by God, He could not have been begotten, and John 3:16; 1:18, 1 John 4:9, etc. are in error.

OLAADEGBU:

Therefore, when the Bible says that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, it means that Jesus is equal to God, not less than God .

RikoduoSennin:


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An2elect2:


There is only one God, and that is how it will continue to be. Even Satan knows that am surprised he has not informed you yet. Well...

PastorAIO:


Please can you back this up with scripture or are you just forming this out of the top of your head.

Jesus And The Sons Of God

"I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High." (Psalm 82:6)

This relatively little-known 82nd psalm is actually quite important.  Both in this verse and in the first verse, a group of men are actually called "gods." The Hebrew word is elohim, which is almost always translated "God." (as, for example, in Genesis 1:1).  It is a uniplural noun, however, with specific usage depending on context, sometimes referring also to angels or false gods, or even, as here, to human judges who act as God’s representatives in judicial decisions.

The Lord Jesus Himself indicated its importance when He cited it in defense of His own claim to be the Son of God.  "Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If He called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the Scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of Him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?" (John 10:34–36).

As the great Creator God sent His word into the world through human "gods," so He finally sent His living word into the world.  The Lord Jesus had not only claimed to be the Son of God; He was the Son of God.  He had repeatedly demonstrated this fact in both word and deed, but His enemies still arrogantly charged Him with blasphemy.

The final verse of Psalm 82 was addressed not to human "gods" but to God Himself.  "Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations" (Psalm 82:8.)  This statement can be directed to none other than the Son of God Himself.  "For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son" (John 5:22), "whom He hath appointed heir of all things" (Hebrews 1:2). HMM

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