slyfox5555:


Look at this one - I have more hardware at home than most of your military friends have used or handle. You seem to know little of military procedures and laws - go look it up before you embarrass yourself. I was raised in a military family, went to a Navy school, served as a veteran. I will ignore your lack of authority on this subject

You are a flat out liar! What's the name of the Navy school you attended, what year?? Where did you serve? Call yourself a Veteran, which battles have you fought. I hope you know that impersonation is a felony punishable under the law, it might be ok to do it on a site like nairaland but please don't do it in real life o, you could land yourself in serious trouble!

slyfox5555:


Can you tell me the oath every soldier takes before signing up as a Nigerian soldier? Since you want to talk about military laws - I am interested in what you know

If you ever had any military training then you would know the oath every recruit signs. It's obvious you need more education. If you pm me your details, I might be willing to help you meet someone that can educate you on military laws(I'm serious, free of charge!)

abbey621:


I am being objective, imagine if you were among the soldiers in the middle of a war and 80% of your fellow brothers refused to fight, leaving you vulnerable and susceptible to an invasion by the enemy, would you feel safe?? The military does not operate under the same rules as the civilian world, why can't you guys comprehend this simple fact

Imagine if your father and other blood related souls are among the 54, would you be posting trash

abbey621:


You are a flat out liar! What's the name of the Navy school you attended, what year?? Where did you serve? Call yourself a Veteran, which battles have you fought. I hope you know that impersonation is a felony punishable under the law, it might be ok to do it on a site like nairaland but please don't do it in real life o, you could land yourself in serious trouble!

NNSS Ojo set of 2000. My close friend who I can't mention is a Nigerian Major at this moment. I did a stint in the Liberian conflict. I was stationed in Richmond Virginia - unfortunately, I am not at liberty to discuss the missions but I can give you a couple of the cities I was at.

Impersonation ; you don't say

abbey621:


If you ever had any military training then you would know the oath every recruit signs. It's obvious you need more education. If you pm me your details, I might be willing to help you meet someone that can educate you on military laws(I'm serious, free of charge!)

Bros - I asked you for the oath that every soldier takes. Since you know a lot about Nigerian military laws - can you please state the oath that every soldier takes?

Thanks for your offer - not interested

Story for the gods!!! No one is killing anybody, all dis judgement is just a white elephant one, what will happen at d end is dat dos boys will be dismissed from service, Jonathan isn't gonna sign the papers for their execution.....don't tell dem I told u.

clemzo101:
Story for the gods!!! No one is killing anybody, all dis judgement is just a white elephant one, what will happen at d end is dat dos boys will be dismissed from service, Jonathan isn't gonna sign the papers for their execution.....don't tell dem I told u.

Keeping my fingers crossed

Choi! Guy u nor dey sleep? Abi u be evil spirit?

slyfox5555:


Keeping my fingers crossed

clemzo101:
Choi! Guy u nor dey sleep? Abi u be evil spirit?

. I be like breeze

slyfox5555:


NNSS Ojo set of 2000. My close friend who I can't mention is a Nigerian Major at this moment. I did a stint in the Liberian conflict. I was stationed in Richmond Virginia - unfortunately, I am not at liberty to discuss the missions but I can give you a couple of the cities I was at.

Impersonation ; you don't say

I would love to educate you but I think you have a great resource at your disposal. Why don't you ask your close friend about the oath? Because I feel like I'm going in circles communicating with you. I come from a military family, with two siblings currently in the Nigerian military, both of them graduated NDA in 2002 and are now Majors in the armed forces. If that is not enough, how about using plain old common sense, do you honestly think you can join the armed forces without pledging your allegiance? Even common police officers undertake an oath, so I'm surprised a military man like yourself is debating this issue. Like I said before arguing on here solves nothing, I suggest you reach out to your close friend for a little more enlightenment on military laws.

abbey621:


I would love to educate you but I think you have a great resource at your disposal. Why don't you ask your close friend about the oath? Because I feel like I'm going in circles communicating with you. I come from a military family, with two siblings currently in the Nigerian military, both of them graduated NDA in 2002 and are now Majors in the armed forces. If that is not enough, how about using plain old common sense, do you honestly think you can join the armed forces without pledging your allegiance? Even common police officers undertake an oath, so I'm surprised a military man like yourself is debating this issue. Like I said before arguing on here solves nothing, I suggest you reach out to your close friend for a little more enlightenment on military laws.

You seem to have hard time understanding the premise:

1. We have an oath here in the US when we want to join the armed forces:

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

That oath is very simple - defend the constitution, obey the president and my superiors as long as it is [size=15pt]lawful[/size]. That is why we have regulations and code of military justice. A democratic government is not a tyranny; we have laws we all follow, even the military.

2. The Nigerian oath is similar with some core differences - since you know so much about your military history; please read on it before you make yourself look stup.id online. A section of that oath stipulates the following:

I will, in the performance of my duties, eschew and expose corruption and will not corrupt others or aid or abet corruption in all its facets.

I take God beg you, please do more research in the future. Your brothers graduating from the Nigerian Defense Academy has nothing to do with military doctrine or military laws. We have military attorneys and lawyers that study military laws.

What you have going on now is a show and those innocent soldiers are been used as scape-goats

chisos!...

Now boko haram will be all allahu akbar for ensuring that 54 nigerian soldiers will be out of their radar not through their own fire power but through the volition of their own enemy and which they won't deny that it all came about through the will of their own god

slyfox5555:


You seem to have hard time understanding the premise:

1. We have an oath here in the US when we want to join the armed forces:

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

That oath is very simple - defend the constitution, obey the president and my superiors as long as it is [size=15pt]lawful[/size]. That is why we have regulations and code of military justice. A democratic government is not a tyranny; we have laws we all follow, even the military.

2. The Nigerian oath is similar with some core differences - since you know so much about your military history; please read on it before you make yourself look stup.id online. A section of that oath stipulates the following:

I will, in the performance of my duties, eschew and expose corruption and will not corrupt others or aid or abet corruption in all its facets.

I take God beg you, please do more research in the future. Your brothers graduating from the Nigerian Defense Academy has nothing to do with military doctrine or military laws. We have military attorneys and lawyers that study military laws.

What you have going on now is a show and those innocent soldiers are been used as scape-goats

Now you are just ramblings and trying to justify yourself by comparing apples to oranges. What do you mean by lawful? Where in the Oath does it say lawful and also are you telling me this oath applies to the Nigerian military? Please do not insult my intelligence! I'm in the U.S and I am very familiar with the oath, you do not disobey a direct order for any reason, it would land you in military court and a quick dishonorable discharge. Nigerian military laws are much stricter than U.S laws, so please stop trying to justify yourself with the rubbish you posted. You are not an attorney, you do not know anything about military laws and I have my doubts you ever served in the military and if you did definitely not in the U.S Armed forces, cos based on our conversations so far, you can never pass a military psychological evaluation, your fellow men in the armed forces can never trust you in battle and hence can never be allowed to serve! Stop posting rubbish and trying to justify yourself by mixing apples with oranges.

abbey621:


Now you are just ramblings and trying to justify yourself by comparing apples to oranges. What do you mean by lawful? Where in the Oath does it say lawful and also are you telling me this oath applies to the Nigerian military? Please do not insult my intelligence! I'm in the U.S and I am very familiar with the oath, you do not disobey a direct order for any reason, it would land you in military court and a quick dishonorable discharge. Nigerian military laws are much stricter than U.S laws, so please stop trying to justify yourself with the rubbish you posted. You are not an attorney, you do not know anything about military laws and I have my doubts you ever served in the military and if you did definitely not in the U.S Armed forces, cos based on our conversations so far, you can never pass a military psychological evaluation, your fellow men in the armed forces can never trust you in battle and hence can never be allowed to serve! Stop posting rubbish and trying to justify yourself by mixing apples with oranges.

You were the same id.iot that called me a liar and said I didn't attend a navy school now you are here stating I was never in the Navy . Your "know-it-all" attitude is the reason why you seem to know little about the subject you are talking about. Where in my post did I endorse a direct disobedience to your superiors if it was a lawful order?

You were the same person that said if you were asked to murder your father and you didn't; you will be court-marshalled = you are the only idio.t who don't know the difference between killing and murder in a military context. It's physically tiring trying to reason with you.

Not all military orders are lawful - get that into your iron brain. Whether you believed I served my country or not is irrelevant; that will not change the paycheck I receive every month .

Go read it up for your education - http://www.ucmj.us/

oloworulz:
MY father wil soon join them. Mumu

Your prayer has been answered!!!

U and all ur generations raised wt money acquired by denying these guys their sweat and right equipments will benefit from this ur answered prayers!

How dare you give me dane gun to face somebody with machine gun?

Even if I were mad, am I crazy, yet even if I were crazy am I foolish?

The revival of the Nigerian Army...hurray....am sorry but they got what they deserved...they were moved by emotions.In the military you obey before complain.I know some will say am hearthless,what if my son.brother,father etc were there....am sorry the law is the law.If the military must regain it's pride painful as it may..they must be shot.They had a choice all along not to join the army or to resign.The military is for real men not boys who run or disobey orders.I doff my hat.

Dreambeat:
Too bad.The military profession is not meant for everyone,you either fall in line or you fall out.A very high sense of discipline and obedience is required to be a successful military officer.It is not for the faint hearted.

You are very right,it just that people are being carried away with sympathy and emotion.

holatin:
fresh air indeed
every sector going mad

....bros relax cos we are really enjoying the fresh air and dts the goodness of democracy, atleast if it were in the millitary era, they wud av bin court marshaled long b4 nw without even making headlines, bt in this case, there is stil hope 4 dem

lecturerdabo:
Silly cowards sitting in air conditioned offices and condemning brave hearts to death, non sense!

which brave hearts
huh !

"brave hearts" who will run n escape very faaaaaaarrrrrrrr ! when duty has called upon them 2engage enemy lines... mtcheeeeeeeewwwww !!!!

TOPCRUISE:
Now boko haram will be all allahu akbar for ensuring that 54 nigerian soldiers will be out of their radar not through their own fire power but through the volition of their own enemy and which they won't deny that it all came about through he will of their own god

Idiott.
Mutiny in the army is a greater weapon of BH than anything else.
illiterate.

I wonder how someone sits tight in an air conditioned offiÇe and askes me to go and die on their fÍeld aÑd I refuse to die and here I an still beÍng sÉntenced to death.

Naija is phenomenal

All hail Emperor GEJ!

Gentlesniper:
....bros relax cos we are really enjoying the fresh air and dts the goodness of democracy, atleast if it were in the millitary era, they wud av bin court marshaled long b4 nw without even making headlines, bt in this case, there is stil hope 4 dem

Exactly my point; they shouldn't be killed especially under a democracy.

onadana:
The revival of the Nigerian Army...hurray....am sorry but they got what they deserved...they were moved by emotions.In the military you obey before complain.I know some will say am hearthless,what if my son.brother,father etc were there....am sorry the law is the law.If the military must regain it's pride painful as it may..they must be shot.They had a choice all along not to join the army or to resign.The military is for real men not boys who run or disobey orders.I doff my hat.

fisaylab:

You are very right,it just that people are being carried away with sympathy and emotion.

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quite agree with ur posts but believe me the end is far from sight with this court marshal verdict!

I pray we dnt get to d point where senior officers will be dying mysteriously cos I smell radical revolution in that sector!

Frankenstein:
Brave hearts that shot at their commanding officers.

Guy if na you be dat commandin officer...I shoot u more.

All these sentences and other severe punishments being meted out to the Nigerian soldiers would have made more sense to Nigerians, and even some members of the international community, if the convicted soldiers had been provided with the RIGHT AND ADEQUATE MODERN ARMS AND AMMUNITION to face the well-armed BH insurgents but they just decided not to, out of sheer insubordination and mutinous tendencies.

But we ALL know that this is not the case; most of these brave young men and women would readily take the fight to the BH terrorists up to their Sambisa hiding place, IF only they could be provided with THE RIGHT AND ADEQUATE weapons and other equipment, but unfortunately they were not.

And this is why Nigerians generally would always sympathize with the mutinous soldiers, even though they do not condone the act of mutiny itself. And that is why these death sentences are likely to be generally condemned, both at home and abroad

Pls this is xmas o! Christ's birth is about to b rememberd again,the Boko is destroying lives $ properties cs of their ignorancy,top seated nigerians provide arms for them,we should remember the comment dropped by d APC presidential primary winner,GMB during d 2011 presidential election thus' I will make ur govt ungovernable' all of us know this assertion,and since then till date,we see his words matched with action. Then I ask if we are wise enough,Y should our men,the most respected,highly disciplined and gallant war lords be used as the sacrificial lamb? Our men should be allowed to leave the NA instead for christ gathered and told them'if none of u hasn't done sth of this nature before,he should first throw stone'

ALSO AS A SOLDIER, I CONDEMN THE EXTREMITY OF THIS JUDGEMENT ...YEARS OF JAIL TERM WOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD ONE INSTEAD