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Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by Nobody: 12:10pm On Dec 20, 2014
Ilekokonit:


Very true. That's the result when a lot of people cheat to pass exams even in medical school. Shocking.


Majority of them are just book readers, and it's evident everything they posit most times cos the thought process is always linear - garbage in, garbage out. Even the ones that can put words together, are just as obtuse. Hence it's always easy to pick their illogical arguments apart.

And when they have no logical argument, they start making up porky pies. Let me cite an example: Sir, can you imagine someone who isn't 30 years old, actually asserted that she worked for Bill Clinton in 1998, and saw everything he did, "up, close, and personal." grin Just looking at that, you know the math isn't right cos in 1998, the person wouldn't even be within the legal age to work in America - and definitely not with any POTUS. Then once you bring race and nationality into it,in a place like America, you know that's a big lie. But the airhead was adamant about it. Those are the kinds of dunderheads who populate this forum now.

Also, I miss my big Uncle, from the South-side, eGuerrilla.
Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by Nobody: 12:11pm On Dec 20, 2014
@Fulanigirl

Where have you been?

I just saw you online. And make sure you contribute to this thread. tongue
Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by coogar: 12:27pm On Dec 20, 2014
Ilekokonit:

Its a mystery to me as well, hence I did not highlight it.

I laugh internally when a woman talks at 1000 miles an hour and you are listening patiently digesting her words and just for her to let you get a word in is a problem for her. I also wonder when they send you a flurry of texts like a hyper-active somebody that has swallowed a whole can of nescafe and whilst you are still trying to reply one text many more have come in from her.

If only our women would calm down.

A lot of times these women are sleep deprived because of over ambition and greed for money thus destabilising their brain chemistry hence their hyper-active brain and combative attitudes but if you try to advice them to slow down, take more restful sleep to calm down their brains and generally pause for thought before talking, you will suddenly become their enemy.

Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by fulanigirl(f): 12:53pm On Dec 20, 2014
SirShymex:


It's about emasculating black men. And perhaps some of them are just bitter about something. Who knows?

Sir, I'm not even going to lie, I started seeing this madness of black women trying to dominate, and thinking the traditional family structure is wrong, on NL. And perhaps, with those naija women who kick their husbands out of house, all the time, out here.

All through Uni, all the chics used to cook for us all the time. Heck, one of my female friends used to do my laundry for me all time back then, cos I lived in a studio flat - and obviously, they don't put washing machine in studio flats. Also, going all the way to Uni hostel for laundry was a mission for me back then. And cos she lives like 5 mins drive from my house, I'll just dump all my clothes in a bag. Drive down to hers, dump the bag there, and she usually ring me later to come get them. And these are chics born and raised in London, not Africa. Hence I still can't comprehend the "western"/"modern" nonsense these blinkered folks always spout on here all the time, to be honest.


If you don't mind me asking why are they doing all of that for you and why are you letting them.
Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by Nobody: 1:02pm On Dec 20, 2014
fulanigirl:


If you don't mind me asking why are they doing all of that for you and why are you letting them.

It wasn't just me, it was just basically the same with everyone else based on friendship, and the chics helping guys out. You know like all the group chats in the Library, and you might just say, "I'm hungry, but I don't even know how to cook." And someone who will just offer to cook for you. Or tell you to come over that they've got food. It wasn't a forceful thing - just girls being girls.

And when they need to go out, and they need someone to drive them around. They can just ring you up, and with that, you won't be able to say no. That's mutual benefit - symbiotic relationship. tongue

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Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by fulanigirl(f): 1:13pm On Dec 20, 2014
SirShymex:


It wasn't just me, it was just basically the same with everyone else based on friendship, and the chics helping guys out. You know like all the group chats in the Library, and you might just say, "I'm hungry, but I don't even know how to cook." And someone who will just offer to cook for you. Or tell you to come over that they've got food. It wasn't a forceful thing - just girls being girls.

And when they need to go out, and they need someone to drive them around. They can just ring you up, and with that, you won't be able to say no. That's mutual benefit - symbiotic relationship. tongue

lol I get it now!! Talk about friends with benefits wink
Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by Nobody: 1:17pm On Dec 20, 2014
fulanigirl:


lol I get it now!! Talk about friends with benefits wink

Lol, not friends with benefits per se (though friendship is always about mutual benefits), but a symbiotic one, where chics know how to play their role, ditto the guys. They help out with the cooking, and laundry - and the guys help out with other things.

Can you cook for ya man? And don't lie cos you know I can see you in Scotland with the Hawk-eye. tongue
Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by fulanigirl(f): 1:23pm On Dec 20, 2014
SirShymex:


Lol, not friends with benefits per se (though friendship is always about mutual benefits), but a symbiotic one, where chics know how to play their role, ditto the guys. They help out with the cooking, and laundry - and the guys help out with other things.

Can you cook for ya man? And don't lie cos you know I can see you in Scotland with the Hawk-eye. tongue

See I wouldn't do that based on friendship. I sometimes cook for my boyfriend but I don't make it my job.
Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by Nobody: 1:28pm On Dec 20, 2014
fulanigirl:


See I wouldn't do that based on friendship. I sometimes cook for my boyfriend but I don't make it my job.

Lol, there you go. Boyfriend is also friendship, but a romantic one. tongue

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Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by fulanigirl(f): 1:48pm On Dec 20, 2014
SirShymex:


Lol, there you go. Boyfriend is also friendship, but a romantic one. tongue

Lol I guess
Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by Nobody: 2:04pm On Dec 20, 2014
fulanigirl:


Lol I guess

Lol, thought I won't catch you in ya quest to start to start faking it like the lost souls on here, no? tongue

Anyway, Alhamdulillah that you are staying true to ya roots lol.

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Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by Ilekokonit: 6:26pm On Dec 20, 2014
SirShymex:
And when they have no logical argument, they start making up porky pies.

Personally I've seen an ex girlfriend on Facebook (when i was still on it) blatantly slash 10 years off her age.

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Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by Ilekokonit: 6:33pm On Dec 20, 2014
SirShymex:
And they lure these guy who wouldn't mind sleeping with them, for the fun of it and loose change, with the money they leeched off the system.

Apparently, that woman labelled herself as being "rich" after scrounging all kinds of benefits, as a single mum. These women are hilarious! grin

And yet she had the effontery to pose as a victim in her full faced rebuttal video - thus compounding an already bad situation for her kids in the future.

What a pathetic joke some of these women are turning out to be right before the very eyes of their hapless kids. They clearly underestimate the smartness of todays kids. A lot of these women will have some serious questions asked of them in the very near future especially by their male children.

They are underestimating the character of a male child. If only they knew.

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Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by coogar: 6:40pm On Dec 20, 2014
Ilekokonit:


Personally I've seen an ex girlfriend on Facebook (when i was still on it) blatantly slash 10 years off her age.

10 bloody years off her age? grin cheesy
by the time she's "28", her eggs woulda calcified. grin

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Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by Ilekokonit: 6:48pm On Dec 20, 2014
coogar:


10 bloody years off her age? grin cheesy
by the time she's "28", her eggs woulda calcified. grin

Funny but true. Some women are just unbeleivable in the lies they tell.

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Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by coogar: 6:59pm On Dec 20, 2014
Ilekokonit:


Funny but true. Some women are just unbeleivable in the lies they tell.

you can't blame them too much....
their biological clock puts them at a huge disadvantage......and if you meet a 35 year old chic, you would want to know her history between 18 & 35, won't you? grin

taking 10 years off solves 90% of her problems. cheesy

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Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by Ilekokonit: 7:25pm On Dec 20, 2014
coogar:

you can't blame them too much....
their biological clock puts them at a huge disadvantage......and if you meet a 35 year old chic, you would want to know her history between 18 & 35, won't you? grin

taking 10 years off solves 90% of her problems. cheesy

It solves her problems temporarily but stores bigger problems for her in the future as anything built on a foundation of lies WILL not last.

Also, only a man that doesn't ask probing questions will be fooled. If you are someone with an inquisitive mind, a retentive memory, someone who doesn't sweep things under the carpet and who can also add 2 + 2 to give 4 then her lies will come crashing down in no time.

I'm one for laying your cards face up upfront to avoid future BIGGER disappointments which tend to hurt more than if you had told the truth in the first place.

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Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by Nobody: 7:48pm On Dec 20, 2014
Coogar, someone who'd read the book says Vilar said, a pair of brown boots is more important than an orgassm. After I head that, I felt hollow. grin
Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by coogar: 9:52pm On Dec 20, 2014
Timbuktou:
Coogar, someone who'd read the book says Vilar said, a pair of brown boots is more important than an orgassm. After I head that, I felt hollow. grin

whose orgašm? mine or hers?
if it's mine - i don't think so. i have enough brown boots in my store, i dunno what to do with them. nothing compares to orgäsm. wink

Ilekokonit:

It solves her problems temporarily but stores bigger problems for her in the future as anything built on a foundation of lies WILL not last.

but our society is also highly judgemental. i agree the foundation of lies don't last but it buys them time to become someone's mrs before it gets too late for them.


Also, only a man that doesn't ask probing questions will be fooled. If you are someone with an inquisitive mind, a retentive memory, someone who doesn't sweep things under the carpet and who can also add 2 + 2 to give 4 then her lies will come crashing down in no time.

some women are professional liars.....
you don't stand a chance catching their lies unless you are fortunate to find something out by accident.


I'm one for laying your cards face up upfront to avoid future BIGGER disappointments which tend to hurt more than if you had told the truth in the first place.

it's easier for a man to go that route. what exactly puts a man at any disadvantage? nothing! multiple sėx partners? love-kids? babymammas? none of this seems to affect men like the women.
Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by Ilekokonit: 11:06pm On Dec 20, 2014
coogar:
some women are professional liars.....
you don't stand a chance catching their lies unless you are fortunate to find something out by accident.

True talk. Especially if you are someone who is naturally trusting. Marriage is becoming worse than politics by the day. More like Russian roulette.

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Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by coogar: 11:08pm On Dec 20, 2014
Ilekokonit:


True talk. Especially if you are someone who is naturally trusting. Marriage is becoming worse than politics by the day. More like Russian roulette.

it's a game of chess.....
thank God, i know how to play chess. i'm 100% covered.
Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by Ilekokonit: 11:11pm On Dec 20, 2014
coogar:


it's a game of chess.....
thank God, i know how to play chess. i'm 100% covered.

Means that I have to brush up on my rusty chess and utilise its tactics religiously when it comes to dating.

But doesn't that take out the spontaneity out of love or is love really and truly dead like everything in the world seems to point to ?

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Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by coogar: 11:13pm On Dec 20, 2014
Ilekokonit:


Means that I have to brush up on my rusty chess and utilise its tactics religiously when it comes to dating.

i mastered the art from a very young age. came across some of lord chesterfield's musings in my teens & that prepared me fully for this world of sin.


But doesn't that take out the spontaneity out of love or is love really and truly dead like everything in the world seems to point to ?

chicken & egg, bro......
if you love, you leave yourself exposed. if you don't love, you lose nothing. so it depends on how you wanna play it. grin

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Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by Ilekokonit: 11:17pm On Dec 20, 2014
coogar:

i mastered the art from a very young age. came across some of lord chesterfield's musings in my teens & that prepared me fully for this world of sin.

Doesn't approaching it like chess take out the spontaneity from love or is love really and truly dead like everything in the world seems to point to

What are the main points of lord chesterfield's musings ??
Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by coogar: 11:25pm On Dec 20, 2014
Ilekokonit:


Doesn't approaching it like chess take out the spontaneity from love or is love really and truly dead like everything in the world seems to point to

What are the main points of lord chesterfield's musings ??

let me find some of them.....he's a loon but what he said makes sense...he wrote this letter to his son as far back as 1748.


"As women are a considerable, or at least a pretty numerous part of company; and as their suffrages go a great way toward establishing a man’s character in the fashionable part of the world (which is of great importance to the fortune and figure he proposes to make in it), it is necessary to please them.

I will therefore, upon this subject, let you into certain Arcana that will be very useful for
you to know, but which you must, with the utmost care, conceal and never seem to know.

Women, then, are only children of a larger growth; they have an entertaining tattle, and sometimes wit; but for solid reasoning, good sense, I never knew in my life one that had it, or who reasoned or acted consequentially for four-and-twenty hours together.

Some little passion or humor always breaks upon their best resolutions. Their beauty neglected or controverted, their age increased, or their supposed understandings depreciated, instantly kindles their little passions, and overturns any system of consequential conduct, that in their most reasonable moments they might have been capable of forming.

A man of sense only trifles with them, plays with them, humors and flatters them, as he does with a sprightly forward child; but he neither consults them about, nor trusts them with serious matters; though he often makes them believe that he does both; which is the thing in the world that they are proud of.

For they love mightily to be dabbling in business (which by the way they always spoil); and being justly distrustful that men in general look upon them in a trifling light, they almost adore that man who talks more seriously to them, and who seems to consult and trust them; I say, who seems; for weak men really do, but wise ones only seem to do it."
Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by Ilekokonit: 11:35pm On Dec 20, 2014
coogar:
let me find some of them.....he's a loon but what he said makes sense...he wrote this letter to his son as far back as 1748.

He probably saved his son from many a heartbreak.
Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by coogar: 11:37pm On Dec 20, 2014
Ilekokonit:

He probably saved his son from many a heartbreak.

he must have saved heartbreaks & stopped loads of bastârds brought in by cheating partners.


they almost adore that man who talks more seriously to them, and who seems to consult and trust them; I say, who seems; for weak men really do, but wise ones only seem to do it."

this bit carried a powerful message.
in other words, make it seem you are doing it without doing it. grin cheesy

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Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by Nobody: 12:12am On Dec 21, 2014
coogar:

i mastered the art from a very young age. came across some of lord chesterfield's musings in my teens & that prepared me fully for this world of sin.

chicken & egg, bro......
if you love, you leave yourself exposed. if you don't love, you lose nothing. so it depends on how you wanna play it. grin

Lord Chesterfield was the man! Dammit!

Personally, I've never been a fan of reading books/opinions on how to handle women. I just think there's no general methodology on how to deal with women, but what you just posted is interesting.

I basically got my game from early via my Uncles and brother. Mastered it...and went forth to do my thing. And I still learn from them, from time to time cos they're at a stage, I'm yet to venture into, and their experience is worth more than gold. My thing has always been about letting everything happen organically. The introduction is always about selling them a dream, but conversely also show them in a blurred way what the end-game is about.

Getting ya emotions involved is a sin - it gives them leverage, and leaves the guy exposed. And women are the masters of exploiting the weakness in guys.

#Following...and still taking notes. cool
Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by Ilekokonit: 12:29am On Dec 21, 2014
coogar:
he must have saved heartbreaks & stopped loads of bastârds brought in by cheating partners.

they almost adore that man who talks more seriously to them, and who seems to consult and trust them; I say, who seems; for weak men really do, but wise ones only seem to do it."
this bit carried a powerful message.
in other words, make it seem you are doing it without doing it.

In other words, women don't like men who are sincere with them but will adore a man who pretends he is giving them what he is not. And to think that women have always being like that even since 1748.

In fact, the man is also saying that only weak men trust women. Now that is scary.

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Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by coogar: 1:53am On Dec 21, 2014
Ilekokonit:

In other words, women don't like men who are sincere with them but will adore a man who pretends he is giving them what he is not. And to think that women have always being like that even since 1748.

In fact, the man is also saying that only weak men trust women. Now that is scary.

if you are sincere with a woman, you would get burnt. give her an inch & she's taking a mile. women often say men lie a lot but can women really really handle the truth?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxyySRgrYsU

that's a social experiment for you.

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Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by Nobody: 2:07am On Dec 21, 2014
E bi like say Op is suffering from color blindness.

Different colors for an article. Some nuts are gone missing.

Not reading the trash, don't wanna mess up my eyes. cool
Re: The Manipulated Man - A Book By Esther Vilar by Ilekokonit: 2:09am On Dec 21, 2014
coogar:


if you are sincere with a woman, you would get burnt. give her an inch & she's taking a mile. women often say men lie a lot but can women really really handle the truth?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxyySRgrYsU

that's a social experiment for you.

Wahala dey o.

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