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Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by davien(m): 2:05pm On Jan 20, 2015
I can't find a day I'm not captivated by nature(both the good,bad,beautiful and ugly side)..but I'd like to pose deep questions...

why are we captivated?...

why does the environment produce deep feelings of euphoria?

when or where did these feelings develop?

why are we at the mercy of them?

And why do we imbue them with meaning?

These are philosophical questions....if you can contribute in any other way meaningfully ,then please do..
Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by italo: 2:42pm On Jan 20, 2015
Because we and the environment share the same author - God.

God alone is perfect truth, perfect love and perfect beauty.

When we seek perfect truth, love and beauty in his creature (which we cannot find), it is we innately seeking God the perfect one.

E.g why would a man want his partner to never liie to him? Where does he get the idea of a perfectly truthful being?

Where does humanity even get the word "perfect" from...when nothing in the physical world is perfect?

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Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by Hiswordxray(m): 4:02pm On Jan 20, 2015
"1 The heavens declare the glory of God; And the firmament shows His handiwork. 2 Day unto day utters speech, And night unto night reveals knowledge. 3 There is no speech nor language Where their voice is not heard. 4 Their line a has gone out through all the earth, And their words to the end of the world. In them He has set a tabernacle for the sun,..." (Psalm 19:1-4)

"18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,..." (Rom 1:18-20).

That voice in your heart is what I have been trying to help you listen to. That strange feeling is the evidence I have been pointing you to and it is the greatest evidence you need.

God loves you and He is trying to reach out to you, listen...
"Be still, and know that I am God;" (Psalm 46:10).

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Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by PastorAIO: 5:02pm On Jan 20, 2015
http://www.meditation24-7.com/page29/page29.html


The phrase, "Aesthetic Arrest" was first used by James Joyce in A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man.

As opposed to the totally boring idea that in meditation, you are supposed to blank your mind, James Joyce proposed a gorgeous idea: when we are in the presence of great beauty, our minds go still. Think about that for a few days. It's a radical and refreshing notion.

I would go further, and propose a sutra, a replacement sutra for the second verse of the Yoga Sutras. It could go something like this:

Attending to the beauty of the rhythms of nature, the mind enters stillness like the ocean at dawn.

Joseph Campbell helped to make the idea known, in his lectures on Joyce: "The aesthetic experience is a simple beholding of the object....you experience a radiance. You are held in aesthetic arrest." This radiance, the perception of beauty, is regarded as a communication of the hidden power behind the world, shining through some physical form..
Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by PastorAIO: 5:12pm On Jan 20, 2015
I hasten to add. I don't agree with Joyce in the most part.
Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by LordReed(m): 5:19pm On Jan 20, 2015
PastorAIO:
I hasten to add. I don't agree with Joyce in the most part.

On this or some other issue?
Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by finofaya: 5:21pm On Jan 20, 2015
I've wondered about this for a while now, whether nature is actually wonderful. I can't shake off the awe but most times I just conclude that my brain is playing tricks on me as usual, and that there is nothing to it.

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Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by plaetton: 5:41pm On Jan 20, 2015
The answer is encapsulated in the ancient but common saying that " Beauty is in the eyes of the Beholder ".

This simple truth implies that nothing is intrinsically beautiful on its own, otherwise, we should not be mocking gorrilas as ugly creatures.

We should wonder whether a mother gorilla sees wonderous beauty in the face of her offspring or the same fearsome ugliness that we see.

If beauty was an intrinsic quality, then we should all have the same taste and wonderment on the same objects, equally value the same aesthetic qualities in all things.
But we do not. That tells a lot about where the attributes of beauty are coming from; our minds, our cultures, our conditioning, and of course, our genetic predispositions.

No two people see the exactly hue or color in any object. Each of us sees a slightly different hue when we gaze upon any object.

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Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by PastorAIO: 5:50pm On Jan 20, 2015
plaetton:
The answer is encapsulated in the ancient but common saying that " Beauty is in the eyes of the Beholder ".

This simple truth implies that nothing is intrinsically beautiful on its own, otherwise, we should not be mocking gorrilas as ugly creatures.

We should wonder whether a mother gorilla sees wonderous beauty in the face of her offspring or the same fearsome ugliness that we see.

If beauty was an intrinsic quality, then we should all have the same taste and wonderment on the same objects, equally value the same aesthetic qualities in all things.
But we do not. That tells a lot about where the attributes of beauty are coming from; our minds, our cultures, our conditioning, and of course, our genetic predispositions.

No two people see the exactly hue or color in any object. Each of us sees a slightly different hue when we gaze upon any object.

But there is still beauty and there is still wonder. The question becomes not why there is intrinsic beauty in things. but why there is Beauty at all.

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Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by PastorAIO: 5:52pm On Jan 20, 2015
LordReed:


On this or some other issue?

This issue. Mostly that Art will lead to aesthetic arrest. I do not think that the only effect of beauty is Stillness. Nor that it is the function of Art (whatever that is) to effect beauty.
Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by plaetton: 5:59pm On Jan 20, 2015
PastorAIO:


But there is still beauty and there is still wonder. The question becomes not why there is intrinsic beauty in things. but why there is Beauty at all.

But do we really see a qualitative beauty or do we just contemplate it, and then apportion it as we wish?

For example, I think and genuinely feel that my daughter is the most beauriful thing in the universe.
Is she truly so, or is it a biased judgement from my mind?

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Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by PastorAIO: 6:45pm On Jan 20, 2015
plaetton:

But do we really see a qualitative beauty or do we just contemplate it, and then apportion it as we wish?

For example, I think and genuinely feel that my daughter is the most beauriful thing in the universe.
Is she truly so, or is it a biased judgement from my mind?

I'm trying to shift the focus away from the object of beauty and put it just on the fact of Beauty, regardless of what is considered beautiful.
Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by LordReed(m): 6:52pm On Jan 20, 2015
PastorAIO:


This issue. Mostly that Art will lead to aesthetic arrest. I do not think that the only effect of beauty is Stillness. Nor that it is the function of Art (whatever that is) to effect beauty.

I agree with the part about aesthetic arrest, beholding beautiful things should inspire all sorts of good emotions and thoughts but I don't get why you say the function of art is not to effect beauty, aesthetic beauty is usually the first point of evaluation of any work of art.
Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by plaetton: 7:33pm On Jan 20, 2015
PastorAIO:


I'm trying to shift the focus away from the object of beauty and put it just on the fact of Beauty, regardless of what is considered beautiful.

Yes sir.
But question remains whether beauty is a qualitative thing or a state of mind.

Is it a real graspable quality or an abstract of the mind?
Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by plaetton: 7:40pm On Jan 20, 2015
^^^
I am inclined to see it as an abstract quality that we deliberately bestow on objects .

Take the beauty of a beautiful lakefront beach for example.
No matter how much beauty and natural aura of grandeur we bestow upon it, the same would immediately diminish or evaporate as soon as we learn that several people drowned on that beach waters on regular basis.
That erstwhile object of adoration now becomes an object of fear and loathe.

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Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by plaetton: 7:46pm On Jan 20, 2015
^^^
Therefore, I think beauty is better defined as the absence of fear. We see beauty when we are at comfort and ease.
A feared object can hardly ever take on the attributes of beauty.

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Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by davien(m): 8:59pm On Jan 20, 2015
italo:
Because we and the environment share the same author - God.
Can you tell us all what a "god" is and how you deduced it to be the "author" of nature?

God alone is perfect truth, perfect love and perfect beauty.
So how does something that is termed by you as "perfect truth and love",responsible for beings like us that lack "perfect truth and love"

When we seek perfect truth, love and beauty in his creature (which we cannot find), it is we innately seeking God the perfect one.
You seem to be pushing an ideology here, can you explain how the unknown(which we cannot find) is evident of an as yet undefined "god"?

E.g why would a man want his partner to never liie to him? Where does he get the idea of a perfectly truthful being?
I doubt I or anyone has the idea of what a " perfectly truthful being" would be,can you tell us anything concrete about where the idea of this being originated and how you know it to be true...

Where does humanity even get the word "perfect" from...when nothing in the physical world is perfect?
The term varies in contexts.....perfect may mean consistency...perfect may mean completion....perfect may mean alot of things....so the ball is in your court to tell us which aspect best applies to this idea of yours...
Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by Hiswordxray(m): 9:08pm On Jan 20, 2015
I wonder why my friend davien had to create this tread in religion section. I know he must be looking for religious answers but he end up asking the question in a philosophical way - guess he's too shy to come out boldly and asks for help from religious people.

Do worry davien, I know you are struggling to come to the light but try to be more clear and precise with your questions. You know philosophy can't give you the answer you seek and that his why you posted it here but with the way you present your questions you would end up getting philosophical answers and you would go home with nothing.

It is God your soul cry out for. It time for you to let go of your ideology and unfruitful reasoning. Reason with your heart and you would find the answers you need. Don't be afraid there is no harm in trying.
Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by davien(m): 9:27pm On Jan 20, 2015
Hiswordxray:
I wonder why my friend davien had to create this tread in religion section. I know he must be looking for religious answers but he end up asking the question in a philosophical way - guess he's too shy to come out boldly and asks for help from religious people.
What other section would have fitted, literature? undecided


Do worry davien, I know you are struggling to come to the light but try to be more clear and precise with your questions. You know philosophy can't give you the answer you seek and that his why you posted it here but with the way you present your questions you would end up getting philosophical answers and you would go home with nothing.
I would appreciate philosophical answers because it encourages thinking....the "answers" you are pushing abolished any form of rational thought...

It is God your soul cry out for. It time for you to let go of your ideology and unfruitful reasoning. Reason with your heart and you would find the answers you need. Don't be afraid there is no harm in trying.
I don't understand a thing here...reason with my heart?.."soul"?...."god"?
Those words used to have meaning till I realised it was subjective and unique to everyone(hence has 0 definite meaning), so can you explain them to me?

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Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by finofaya: 9:51pm On Jan 20, 2015
italo:
Because we and the environment share the same author - God.

Can God even experience awe? Being the creator of everything, I don't think he can find anything captivating. If the greatest mind in the universe cannot be awed by anything, you have to wonder whether there is any thing that is truly awe inspiring.

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Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by Hiswordxray(m): 10:12pm On Jan 20, 2015
davien:
What other section would have fitted, literature? undecided

I would appreciate philosophical answers because it encourages thinking....the "answers" you are pushing abolished any form of rational thought...
I don't understand a thing here...reason with my heart?.."soul"?...."god"?
Those words used to have meaning till I realised it was subjective and unique to everyone(hence has 0 definite meaning), so can you explain them to me?
Well, keep fighting it and keep pretending but you would soon get tired.
You know it is God you desire and you would come to him when you are ready.

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Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by GooseBaba: 10:15pm On Jan 20, 2015
I think we are captivated by nature cause we are nature.. We're one with nature hence our love and hate relationship. Heck..! We as individuals dislike certain things about ourselves.. We are capable of good and not so good.. Nature does the same. It's part of our beauty..

Mama nature i hail ohhh.. cheesy

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Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by Hiswordxray(m): 10:18pm On Jan 20, 2015
finofaya:


Can God even experience awe? Being the creator of everything, I don't think he can find anything captivating. If the greatest mind in the universe cannot be awed by anything, you have to wonder whether there is any thing that is truly awe inspiring.
God find you captivating. To him you are the most captivating thing in the whole universe. God is hopelessly in love with you and He would die for you a thousand times if He has to.
But do you know what pains Him?
You are not experiencing His love. He wants you to allow Him unleash His untamed love on you and it will transform you. You would experience real love and you would hunger no more.
Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by davien(m): 10:26pm On Jan 20, 2015
Hiswordxray:

Well, keep fighting it and keep pretending but you would soon get tired.
You know it is God you desire and you would come to him when you are ready.
Well one thing I'll never do is presuppose what someone else is thinking like you do,because it is dishonest..

And I'm totally prepared to change my mind if presented with anything concretely validate-able,are you? undecided
Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by davien(m): 10:28pm On Jan 20, 2015
GooseBaba:
I think we are captivated by nature cause we are nature.. We're one with nature hence our love and hate relationship. Heck..! We as individuals dislike certain things about ourselves.. We are capable of good and not so good.. Nature does the same. It's part of our beauty..

Mama nature i hail ohhh.. cheesy
Nice post...

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Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by GooseBaba: 10:38pm On Jan 20, 2015
plaetton:
^^^
Therefore, I think beauty is better defined as the absence of fear. We see beauty when we are at comfort and ease.
A feared object can hardly ever take on the attributes of beauty.

Hmmm, true talk ..but i feel somehow somehow . One can enjoy the beauty of an M16 rifle when he or she is in control, but if that same rifle is pointed at the same person beauty disappears.

However, from my personal experience,beauty could be a state of mind. I remember when a mallam was about to stab me in 1995, when I gaze upon his dagger i was mesmerized by how shinning the blade was, but I was sweating bullets, i could feel the sweat dripping down my butttt cheeks. In that moment I thought the blade was magnificent.. Or maybe it was the way he handled it.. I no go lie, his control was on point.. Any ninja ideas I had disappeared sharp sharp..

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Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by finofaya: 10:52pm On Jan 20, 2015
Hiswordxray:

God find you captivating. To him you are the most captivating thing in the whole universe. God is hopelessly in love with you and He would die for you a thousand times if He has to.
But do you know what pains Him?
You are not experiencing His love. He wants you to allow Him unleash His untamed love on you and it will transform you. You would experience real love and you would hunger no more.

How is it possible for God to be captivated?

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Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by Hiswordxray(m): 11:15pm On Jan 20, 2015
finofaya:


How is it possible for God to be captivated?
Love made Him captivated.
God is the most emotional being in the whole universe.
Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by macof(m): 11:29pm On Jan 20, 2015
Hiswordxray:
I wonder why my friend davien had to create this tread in religion section. I know he must be looking for religious answers but he end up asking the question in a philosophical way - guess he's too shy to come out boldly and asks for help from religious people.

Do worry davien, I know you are struggling to come to the light but try to be more clear and precise with your questions. You know philosophy can't give you the answer you seek and that his why you posted it here but with the way you present your questions you would end up getting philosophical answers and you would go home with nothing.

It is God your soul cry out for. It time for you to let go of your ideology and unfruitful reasoning. Reason with your heart and you would find the answers you need. Don't be afraid there is no harm in trying.
while reasonable people reason with their brains you most likely don't

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Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by finofaya: 11:30pm On Jan 20, 2015
Hiswordxray:

Love made Him captivated.
God is the most emotional being in the whole universe.

Okay. Let's not drag the issue.
Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by macof(m): 11:42pm On Jan 20, 2015
Hiswordxray:

Love made Him captivated.
God is the most emotional being in the whole universe.
yh we see how he went all emotional throughout the Bible killing discriminately

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Re: Why Are We Captivated By Nature's Beauty? by macof(m): 11:53pm On Jan 20, 2015
Hiswordxray:

God find you captivating. To him you are the most captivating thing in the whole universe. God is hopelessly in love with you and He would die for you a thousand times if He has to.
But do you know what pains Him?
You are not experiencing His love. He wants you to allow Him unleash His untamed love on you and it will transform you. You would experience real love and you would hunger no more.

Have you allowed god unleash his love in ur life?

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