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Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by Nobody: 10:40pm On Feb 23, 2015
We are talking of what make Lagos thick and your talking about SW, what do you mean by opening up, offering free food or free what and for people to start coming, when Obasanjo was busy killing Igbo businesses to make sure they didn't thrive who was to be blamed, you closed Savannah Bank, closed Ibeto Cement and gave Dangote monopoly, seized and auctioned Innosson's 25 40ft containers and your telling me opening up, the more we open up the more enemies encircle to frustrate our efforts.

East have always been open to businesses since when the Pope was an alterboy but successive FG with their tribal and ethnic agenda won't allow East to thrive.

We know those with our interest at their hearts and those that have it on their mouths.


gnykelly:

sorry bro. I'm a Yoruba but I love this I idea you guys are sharing
but when it comes to biz you go y where the market and demand is.
imagine you are a foreigner willing to invest in Nigeria. the factors you will consider are security, manpower market and culture of the people.
look at Dangote he is building his refinery in southwest not in the north.
my submission is that you guys should open up a seaport and find a way of attracting diverse background from all part of the country. that way not only will it be just the usual merchant and spare part seller but other ideas flowing. imagine a Yoruba man selling suya in Lagos it does not work that way Chinese restaurant is best operated by a Chinese. when you guys open up like Lagos then you are on your way to a bustling city like Dubai or newyork.

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Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by asha80(m): 10:43pm On Feb 23, 2015
Ikengawo:


yes, I do believe opening Igboland to immigrants will be a net good, but it's not as if it's currently closed to immigrants. People in Nigeria are simply afraid of Igbo people and we're surrounded by very mumutic tribes who idk what they're contribute. At best we should look to attract international immigrants.

Ghanians contributed a lot to the economy of until Buhari kicked them out of the country.
just to correct something..it was shagari's regime that Ghana must go occurred

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Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by Nobody: 10:48pm On Feb 23, 2015
gnykelly:

not just opening up that city need to support immigration from other places. port Harcourt was like that because it was hostile to immigrants

My brother you just made an important point that I wish some xenophobic Yorubas will understand. Population is very important. The reason that most investors coming to Nigeria invest in Lagos is not just because of infrastructure (Actually abuja has better infrastructure). Its also about population. If all immigrant left Lagos tomorrow because of tribalism, the population will reduce including its economic activity. Please dont take this as bragging but you see what happens in lagos during christmas period when people leave the city in large numbers.
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by Nobody: 10:51pm On Feb 23, 2015
Its you Nigerians that are scared of Igboland for reasons best know to you, there are many Ghananians in Onicha, even Aba have the largest Ghana community in Nigeria and they are living freely, I don't know what you guys want from us again, we come to your land, pay taxes and buy land to build houses and your telling me East is not open to immigrants, must we share par boiled rice so that you all will start coming?

gnykelly:

not just opening up that city need to support immigration from other places. port Harcourt was like that because it was hostile to immigrants

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Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by Nobody: 10:55pm On Feb 23, 2015
Do you mind the rants of all these slum dwellers here claiming more lagos than the badagrian, even Jimi Agbaje acknowledged it that without non indigens Lagos will be a glorified village.

Some people will come here telling they build these they built that


NAIJASOM:


My brother you just made an important point that I wish some xenophobic Yorubas will understand. Population is very important. The reason that most investors coming to Nigeria invest in Lagos is not just because of infrastructure (Actually abuja has better infrastructure). Its also about population. If all immigrant left Lagos tomorrow because of tribalism, the population will reduce including its economic activity. Please dont take this as bragging but you see what happens in lagos during christmas period when people leave the city in large numbers.

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Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by Nobody: 11:03pm On Feb 23, 2015
jimiagbaje.com/agbaje-accuses-lagos-govt-blackmailing-community-religious-leaders-civil-servants/
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by gnykelly(m): 11:04pm On Feb 23, 2015
BuddahMonk:
Its you Nigerians that are scared of Igboland for reasons best know to you, there are many Ghananians in Onicha, even Aba have the largest Ghana community in Nigeria and they are living freely, I don't know what you guys want from us again, we come to your land, pay taxes and buy land to build houses and your telling me East is not open to immigrants, must we share par boiled rice so that you all will start coming?


sorry for contribiting
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by ideology(m): 11:23pm On Feb 23, 2015
BuddahMonk:
We are talking of what make Lagos thick and your talking about SW, what do you mean by opening up, offering free food or free what and for people to start coming, when Obasanjo was busy killing Igbo businesses to make sure they didn't thrive who was to be blamed, you closed Savannah Bank, closed Ibeto Cement and gave Dangote monopoly, seized and auctioned Innosson's 25 40ft containers and your telling me opening up, the more we open up the more enemies encircle to frustrate our efforts.

East have always been open to businesses since when the Pope was an alterboy but successive FG with their tribal and ethnic agenda won't allow East to thrive.

We know those with our interest at their hearts and those that have it on their mouths.




Nice thread, you have made good points, some forces have frustrated Tinapa in calabar.
But
the guy made also made a point, seaport is the only medium that has helped in importation of goods and machineries. Igbo are generally into business that involves importation, if the seaport in akwa ibom comes on board you will see the impact in south East, companies will open offices in the region if not relocating totally. Industries will spring up, to cut the cost of transporting heavy equipment and finished goods.
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by ideology(m): 11:35pm On Feb 23, 2015
BuddahMonk:
Do you mind the rants of all these slum dwellers here claiming more lagos than the badagrian, even Jimi Agbaje acknowledged it that without non indigens Lagos will be a glorified village.

Some people will come here telling they build these they built that



Bros calm down,
if APC won't frustrated seaport in Akwa Ibom, Lagosians will see the shocker of their lives.

In Medina Estate where I live, 2/3 of the people here are igbo's. If you know someone on Victoria Island, let them check the statistics for you, from Ikoyi to Lekki, what percentage of Igbos live in those areas …

They have pushed for and gotten approval to build a new seaport in Lekki.
Lets hope GEJ wins elections, he will help Akwa Ibom build her own seaport, by 2020 you will see what the south East Will look like.

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Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by Abagworo(m): 1:04am On Feb 24, 2015
ideology:


Bros calm down,
if APC won't frustrated seaport in Akwa Ibom, Lagosians will see the shocker of their lives.

In Medina Estate where I live, 2/3 of the people here are igbo's. If you know someone on Victoria Island, let them check the statistics for you, from Ikoyi to Lekki, what percentage of Igbos live in those areas …

They have pushed for and gotten approval to build a new seaport in Lekki.
Lets hope GEJ wins elections, he will help Akwa Ibom build her own seaport, by 2020 you will see what the south East Will look like.


Why do Igbos have a kind of thinking that seems not to understand politics. The reality is that only an Igbo President can implement what you are hoping Jonathan can do in next four years which he could not do in the past 5 years. The Ibaka port has been a fraud. A lot of people believed it to be real earlier.

Work towards achieving true federalism, producing a President or outright independence. Jonathan's allegiance is with Ijaws and Fulanis. Not Igbos or even Ibibio, Urhobo etc. He is even canvassing for Yoruba support. You all are irrelevant in this admin.
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by Abagworo(m): 1:10am On Feb 24, 2015
http://www.nigerianports.org/news.aspx?id=251

Akwa Ibom, NPA set 2015 target for Ibaka Deep sea port
…Akpabio grants NPA C of O for port area
Barring any last minute changes, the proposed Ibaka Deep sea port would start receiving ocean lines not
later than 2015, Executive Governor of Akwa Ibom State Chief Godswill Akpabio and the Managing Director of
Nigerian Ports Authority, Engr. Omar Suleiman have hinted.
Governor Akpabio and Engr. Suleiman who expressed the resolve on Monday in Abuja at a brief event to
mark the official hand over of the Certificate of Occupancy (C of O) of the over 5580 Sq meters of land area
for the citing of the new port, said all infrastructures needed to fast -track the early completion of the port
will be provided. This is even as the Governor pledged to within one month award contract for the
dualisation of the port main access road to link the East –West road with a view to making it more
intermodal
The state Government equally handed over the master plan of the port to the Managing Director of NPA at
the event.
He said the state was spurred to fast-track work on the surveying and parceling out of the land where the
port will be cited after the last visit of President Goodluck Jonathan to the state where he pledged support
for citing of project in an area that has comparative advantage rather than based on ethnic sentiments.
Governor Akpabio noted that the infrastructures for a deep sea port is huge, saying the state is prepared to
offer assistance to NPA at whatever point it will be needed. He added that his government is fully ready to
partner with the Organisation to ensure that the necessary infrastructure for effective take-off of the port is
provided. “Whatever support that may be required to ensure that a big ocean going Liner comes to the port
by 2015 will be provided by the state government.
He allayed fears of security of investment in the port in view of the menace of the maritime pirates in the
Nigerian territorial waters, saying that the federal government has granted the state it’s request to establish
full military presence in that location. “Now we have NN Jubilee in the area, so with the presence of the
Army, Navy, complementing the Marine Police, there will be adequate security of investments as the area
will be a no go area for maritime robbers and other criminals.” The Governor envisages that when the multi-
billion naira port project is completed, it will be the hub of oil and gas operation in the Gulf of Guinea.
The Ibaka port is said to be between 17 and 18 meters draught without dredging and its quay area will
span over two miles (length). It is hoped that on completion, mega vessels of over 10,000 TEUs will be
calling at the port and that will make it the largest in the region.
Earlier, the Managing Director of NPA expressing delight in the gesture of the Governor noted that the move
to establish the deep sea port is a major step in the nation’s quest of becoming the hub of maritime
operation in the West and Central African sub-region.
He noted that what is needed to realize the project is infrastructure, assuring that Ports Authority will
partner with Akwa Ibom State to ensure that the necessary infrastructure is provided. He disclosed that the
port project is intermodal that sees the construction of port access roads and mono- rail to ensure easy
evacuation of goods out of the port.
He said the journey towards the construction of the Ibaka deep sea port dates back to the 70s but had not
been taken with seriousness it deserves. “But with the new vision and the transformation agenda of
President Goodluck Jonathan the development of the port has become a must if the country is to achieve its
dream of becoming the hub port of the sub-region.
kiss


http://www.nigerianports.org/news.aspx?id=251

Akwa Ibom, NPA set 2015 target for Ibaka Deep sea port
…Akpabio grants NPA C of O for port area
Barring any last minute changes, the proposed Ibaka Deep sea port would start receiving ocean lines not
later than 2015, Executive Governor of Akwa Ibom State Chief Godswill Akpabio and the Managing Director of
Nigerian Ports Authority, Engr. Omar Suleiman have hinted.
Governor Akpabio and Engr. Suleiman who expressed the resolve on Monday in Abuja at a brief event to
mark the official hand over of the Certificate of Occupancy (C of O) of the over 5580 Sq meters of land area
for the citing of the new port, said all infrastructures needed to fast -track the early completion of the port
will be provided. This is even as the Governor pledged to within one month award contract for the
dualisation of the port main access road to link the East –West road with a view to making it more
intermodal
The state Government equally handed over the master plan of the port to the Managing Director of NPA at
the event.
He said the state was spurred to fast-track work on the surveying and parceling out of the land where the
port will be cited after the last visit of President Goodluck Jonathan to the state where he pledged support
for citing of project in an area that has comparative advantage rather than based on ethnic sentiments.
Governor Akpabio noted that the infrastructures for a deep sea port is huge, saying the state is prepared to
offer assistance to NPA at whatever point it will be needed. He added that his government is fully ready to
partner with the Organisation to ensure that the necessary infrastructure for effective take-off of the port is
provided. “Whatever support that may be required to ensure that a big ocean going Liner comes to the port
by 2015 will be provided by the state government.
He allayed fears of security of investment in the port in view of the menace of the maritime pirates in the
Nigerian territorial waters, saying that the federal government has granted the state it’s request to establish
full military presence in that location. “Now we have NN Jubilee in the area, so with the presence of the
Army, Navy, complementing the Marine Police, there will be adequate security of investments as the area
will be a no go area for maritime robbers and other criminals.” The Governor envisages that when the multi-
billion naira port project is completed, it will be the hub of oil and gas operation in the Gulf of Guinea.
The Ibaka port is said to be between 17 and 18 meters draught without dredging and its quay area will
span over two miles (length). It is hoped that on completion, mega vessels of over 10,000 TEUs will be
calling at the port and that will make it the largest in the region.
Earlier, the Managing Director of NPA expressing delight in the gesture of the Governor noted that the move
to establish the deep sea port is a major step in the nation’s quest of becoming the hub of maritime
operation in the West and Central African sub-region.
He noted that what is needed to realize the project is infrastructure, assuring that Ports Authority will
partner with Akwa Ibom State to ensure that the necessary infrastructure is provided. He disclosed that the
port project is intermodal that sees the construction of port access roads and mono- rail to ensure easy
evacuation of goods out of the port.
He said the journey towards the construction of the Ibaka deep sea port dates back to the 70s but had not
been taken with seriousness it deserves. “But with the new vision and the transformation agenda of
President Goodluck Jonathan the development of the port has become a must if the country is to achieve its
dream of becoming the hub port of the sub-region.


Akwa Ibom begins
construction of Ibaka
seaport
By: BOLDWIN ANUGWARA
September 19, 2013 in Maritime
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BAYO AKOMOLAFE
The Akwa Ibom Government is to embark
on the construction of Ibaka Deep
Seaport in partnership with the Federal
Government. Its Governor, Godswill
Akpabio dropped the hint at a gala
night organised in honour of the visiting
U.S. Consul-General in Nigeria, Mr Jeffrey
Hawkins.
The U.S. consul-general was accompanied
by the Minister of State for Trade and
Investment, Mr Samuel Ortom. Akpabio
explained that the seaport project was a
major industrial concern for Akwa Ibom.
The governor stressed the need for
continuous partnership between Nigeria
and the U.S. in the promotion of trade
and investments. The Ibaka Deep Seaport
is a component of the envisaged Ibom
Industrial City. Its ground-breaking
ceremony took place in 2009 at Mbo Local
Government Area of the state.
The Ibom Industrial City is also expected
to host oil and gas activities with
refineries, petrochemical and fertiliser
plants, coupled with manufacturing,
packaging, bulk-breaking and small
equipment factories.
Akpabio had noted that the 129
kilometres stretch of land at the Ibaka
Port area would be a self-sustaining
industrial city. The governor declared:
“With Ibaka deep seaport, we will have a
seaport that will not require perennial
dredging. Investors will be in business
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by Abagworo(m): 1:13am On Feb 24, 2015
As the optimistic were expecting to start importing through Ibaka in 2015, they got a shocker by December 2014

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/12/ibaka-deep-sea-port-relocated-new-site/

Godfrey Bivbere & Olaitan Ayoola
THE proposed Ibaka deep sea port, Akwa Ibom, has been relocated
to Ibeno Local Government Area, while the name has been
changed to Ibom from Ibaka.
FPSO Vessel
Vanguard gathered that the project analysis done by a foreign
consultant and Transaction Advisers, FELAC Concept and Marine
and Transport Business Solutions, MTBS, of Netherlands, showed
that the port project would not be commercially viable if sited at
Ibaka due to its long distance from the sea..
A source close to the Ministerial Steering and Delivery Committee
for the port who spoke to Vanguard, explained that the project
had to be moved initially to Okposo. The source further noted that
the same problem of distance from the sea as well as the dense
population, made it non-viable.
The source said that the soil analysis on Okposo showed that the
earth there is marshy which would further drive up the cost of
construction should it be sited there.
The source pointed out that the project had to be moved again to
the third site at Ibeno Local Government Area and the name had
to be changed from Ibaka to Ibom, like all other projects of the
state to give it a state colouration.
The distance from the new site to the sea is about 20 nautical
kilometres and also it is closer to the connecting expressway for
quick evacuation of consignments from the port at completion, the
source disclosed.
The source also said that the area is less populated, making
compensation for displaced persons easy, as well as making the
new site for the project commercially viable.
The transport ministry source said that one of the major
challenges faced by the committee at the new site was the
presence of under-ground oil pipelines.
The source explained that the Committee held several meetings
with the Department of Petroleum Resources, DPR, National
Petroleum Investment Management Services, NAPIMS, and the
various oil companies on how to work around the pipelines.
The oil companies agreed to relocate some of the pipelines that
were no longer active away from the area to aid quick construction
of the port.
The source explained that construction work on the project is
expected to commence sometime next year on a Public, Private
Partnership.
It added that a few little details left on the part of government
would soon be taken care of for construction work to commence.
On financing, the source disclosed that the private sector is
expected to have 60 percent while the Federal and state
governments are expected to hold 20 percent each. According to
the source, “No government can fund a port project but it can
only be achieved through a Public/Private sector partnership.”
Foreign concerns are already making inquires on what is required
to partake in the financing of the project.
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by Abagworo(m): 1:18am On Feb 24, 2015
It is same with every project like the 2nd Niger bridge and the dredging of the Niger. You can only help yourself Ndigbo and that is by the 3 options I listed.

1 True federalism

2 Supporting Igbo Presidency

3 Pushing for complete independence.

Out of the 3, number 1 the most achievable.
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by Ngwakwe: 1:20am On Feb 24, 2015
@Abagworo,
It seems you have nothing positive to contribute on this pan Igbo thread than your usual antagonism.

Leave Akpabio and Amaechi supremacy out of this thread.

There is nothing effective lobbing can't do when it is directed to someone/party that shares your vision and has soft-spot for your ideologies and predicaments.

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Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by ideology(m): 1:35am On Feb 24, 2015
Abagworo:



Why do Igbos have a kind of thinking that seems not to understand politics. The reality is that only an Igbo President can implement what you are hoping Jonathan can do in next four years which he could not do in the past 5 years. The Ibaka port has been a fraud. A lot of people believed it to be real earlier.

Work towards achieving true federalism, producing a President or outright independence. Jonathan's allegiance is with Ijaws and Fulanis. Not Igbos or even Ibibio, Urhobo etc. He is even canvassing for Yoruba support. You all are irrelevant in this admin.

Ibaka seaport is not a fraud, am Very must on ground, a lot of forces politically does not want the project to see the light of the day
If APC wins that project will be blocked, if PDP wins bet me by 2020, ships will harbour on the coast, tribalism is killing this country.

Nigeria is a forced marriage - Odumegu was right,

Congo, sudan, Korea, many others have splited to form their own countries after many years of wars.

This elections is our opportunity to split just that, there are a lot of foreign interest in Nigeria.

Let Nigeria split, if not generations unborn will fight one day if we don't fight this 2015.

The North will still be carrying, "born to rule" mentality
The West always acts as "middle-men and peace makers" sabotaging everything, OBJ has finished playing the role of a king-maker, Tinubu is pushing for the throne.
The East always divided, some will be entised by Westerners with some contracts and political appointments
The south always vitimized, but their eyes don clear
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by ideology(m): 1:47am On Feb 24, 2015
Abagworo:
It is same with every project like the 2nd Niger bridge and the dredging of the Niger. You can only help yourself Ndigbo and that is by the 3 options I listed.

1 True federalism

2 Supporting Igbo Presidency

3 Pushing for complete independence.

Out of the 3, number 1 the most achievable.

I want number 3, am tired of BH News calming Nigeria should be Islamized. Let's manage our resources and see how much we will be able to achieve in 20 years to come.

Ibaka seaport, I insist is not fraud, a port is not a plot of land, it spreads across the coast cutting across about 4 local government area.

Investors came and suggested that the main construction site is marshy, cost of setting up structures will be high, that It should be shifted to the coast the has less rheyologic properties. Thats what the press picked up and misinformed the public.

2015 Was just a hyped date, it was not realitic, there are a lot of procedures and approval stages.
Besides the state government had lots of projects at hand.
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by cheruv: 2:23am On Feb 24, 2015
Abagworo:
It is same with every project like the 2nd Niger bridge and the dredging of the Niger. You can only help yourself Ndigbo and that is by the 3 options I listed.

1 True federalism

2 Supporting Igbo Presidency

3 Pushing for complete independence.

Out of the 3, number 1 the most achievable.
my friend that's a lie!!
the earlier Igbos unite and push for total independence or autonomy the better for us.stop all these Imocentric tendencies you exhibit from time to time which militates against the unity of Igbo land.
support the unification of all 5 SE states and Anioma into one region. when Igbos look up to Enugwu instead of abuja for development and governmental activity, I think it would be better for us

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Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by Nobody: 4:05am On Feb 24, 2015
Ibaka seaport must be built anything less is an official declaration of economic civil war on the eastern region. Any leader whether APC or PDP that tries to frustrate that project will be in more trouble than they bargained for.

This is the most natural seaport that requires no dredging like ports in lagos. It can contain the biggest container ships in the world comfortably. If tribalism frustrate this project, then i will know that nigeria is officiallly the most backward nation on the planet.
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by Nobody: 6:46am On Feb 24, 2015
Am not a Jonathan supporter but your hatred for the guy is blinding you seriously, under whose tenure was AIIA made an international airport, how about elevation of Sam Mbakwe airport.

The reason while am not supporting Jonathan is just for only two things and they are SNB and Immigration tragedy.

These are the two places Jonathan failed me as leader, but compare and contrast Jonathan with past leaders he is miles ahead of them.




Abagworo:



Why do Igbos have a kind of thinking that seems not to understand politics. The reality is that only an Igbo President can implement what you are hoping Jonathan can do in next four years which he could not do in the past 5 years. The Ibaka port has been a fraud. A lot of people believed it to be real earlier.

Work towards achieving true federalism, producing a President or outright independence. Jonathan's allegiance is with Ijaws and Fulanis. Not Igbos or even Ibibio, Urhobo etc. He is even canvassing for Yoruba support. You all are irrelevant in this admin.
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by Abagworo(m): 6:58am On Feb 24, 2015
Ngwakwe:
@Abagworo,
It seems you have nothing positive to contribute on this pan Igbo thread than your usual antagonism.

Leave Akpabio and Amaechi supremacy out of this thread.

There is nothing effective lobbing can't do when it is directed to someone/party that shares your vision and has soft-spot for your ideologies and predicaments.

There is no Amaechi and Akpabio here but reality. Do you think even Rivers people will support dredging of Niger? I am real and offer real contribution.

Do you think that the forces that stopped Ibaka all these years will suddenly cease to exist? Why are Onne and Calabar ports still under utilised despite having a President from South-south? What lead to the dearth of some expensive visionary investments like Tinapa?

Summary of what I believe is that we need sincere headcount to know our population distribution and plan based on that. 2ndly we need freedom to grow at our pace either through federalism or outright independence. Alternatively if an Igbo becomes President our interest will be protected like other parts of Nigeria.
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by Abagworo(m): 7:05am On Feb 24, 2015
BuddahMonk:
Am not a Jonathan supporter but your hatred for the guy is blinding you seriously, under whose tenure was AIIA made an international airport, how about elevation of Sam Mbakwe airport.

The reason while am not supporting Jonathan is just for only two things and they are SNB and Immigration tragedy.

These are the two places Jonathan failed me as leader, but compare and contrast Jonathan with past leaders he is miles ahead of them.





So wrong for you to use the word hate. One cannot give what he does not have and our priority remains to protect our interest. You can as well thank the Northerners that built roads, Airports, Onne port etc that they did it for Igbos but we are facing reality here.

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Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by Abagworo(m): 7:09am On Feb 24, 2015
NAIJASOM:
Ibaka seaport must be built anything less is an official declaration of economic civil war on the eastern region. Any leader whether APC or PDP that tries to frustrate that project will be in more trouble than they bargained for.

This is the most natural seaport that requires no dredging like ports in lagos. It can contain the biggest container ships in the world comfortably. If tribalism frustrate this project, then i will know that nigeria is officiallly the most backward nation on the planet.

If you are up to date you should have known Ibaka is dead. A new site has been proposed at Ibeno and it is to be called Ibom seaport. You can only help yourself and not depend on others.
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by LoveDecay(m): 7:17am On Feb 24, 2015
Abagworo:
It is same with every project like the 2nd Niger bridge and the dredging of the Niger. You can only help yourself Ndigbo and that is by the 3 options I listed.

1 True federalism

2 Supporting Igbo Presidency

3 Pushing for complete independence.

Out of the 3, number 1 the most achievable.

What do you mean by True Federalism ? I keep reading on nairaland, it quite popular with easterners - this word "federalism". What do you think it means and what constitutes a true or untrue federalism.
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by tonychristopher: 9:10am On Feb 24, 2015
Alcatraz001:
God bless you young ibo guys for the futuristic and pragmatic thinking which will help hasten the development of ibo land and aid the relocation of millions of bos backk to alaigbo/biafra.

I studied for a year in enuggu and I can remember me wondering. As a yoruba man why the ibos can't develop the homefront. May God give your leaders the wisdom to actualize these dreams in order to save Ndi igbo from further xenophobia and ridicule.

I am yoruba and I must confess I feel uncomfortable with having strangers fill my land (Xenophobia).Its a bad phenomenon but its typical of every human being to feel a bit worried when your ways and culture are being eroded by visitors.

May God bless Ndigbo and Nigeria.


May lord bless you, i do understand your fears but one thing that you have to be sure and you can’t escape is the effects of globalization and new economic order. Thanks for the advise, I think that it’s the WEST that need this advise seriously, considering the situation inn Ibadan, Ilesan, Ota, Ifo et al .I do not want to talk about yorubas but I think that xenophobes is killing you people and that I know for a fact. In today economy there is no room for isolation and you cant be isolar. Even the Russians and Chinese that have communism they opened up and have foreign direct investment or what is know as the FDI and this will raise the capital expenditure for the communities and also develop the locals. Now that is what you should know. Yorubas should stop complaining that igbos or non yorubas are in their region. It shows cowardice of the highest level, the fear of competition. Nobody will give you opportunities in a platter. When yorubas did it in 80s by chasing the Ghana peeps away via Ghana must go ideosyncracies they thought that the economy will be theirs, this was after Awolowo in his ignoble way gave the economies from aviation to multinational to yorubas via indigenization policies. Today where are the yorubas and those firms. They are death.
That is by the way, if I am to advise you as one of my Yoruba friend will say, for yorubas to be relevant in the present economy they should venture out, Christopher Columbus opened up the globalization via new order. Today Brithian, Spain, France and other great world powers like china and America have their moneys in overseas. Isreal also is in that line. You go outside have a chunk of the foreign economy, pay about 10% tax to the local government and repatriate your funds home. This is what is keeping these countries afloat not their isolar domestic economy. This is what yorubas should learn not one oyo economic isolation theory. You cant be in isoltation today. If igbo leave you today the Asians will take over. Today Greece, Ireland and other few European countrie that need bailout are broke because they do not have offshore investments and workforce. If Greece had colonized vigorously like france or UK they wont be in this mess.
Now you made a mention of igbo been in your wasteland or west land, that I will like to refute, igbos are not in west because west is better, HELL NO, it is basically for economic reason and lagos is where we hav e igbos most by the virtue of former capital of Nigeria and igbo been Nigerians have 101% right to be there. Lagos was not developed with money from cocoa or gbegiri, no,m lagos was developed with the proceeds from crude oil just like Abuja today. So you should be grateful to these regions that produce crude and they are not in SOUTH WEST BUT IN SOUTH SOUTH AND SOUTH EAST. That is a fact. So my dear brother from the west, you do not need to fear all you need to do is find a niche market and be competitive in the modern day economy. It is survival of the fittest and learn how to venture out. LANDLORD TRAVEL AND SEE.
Thank lord that you have been to Enugu and maybe have you been to owerri or Onitsha lately, I doubt if you can use Ota, Ijebu Ode or Ilesan and Ibadan to compare those cities. These are cities that have functional international airports both crargo and passenger, tell me apart from MM1 in lagos any other airprt in the whole of south west region, even the inadan airport is death. That I know for sure cause I am always in bodija.

All I have to tell you is that FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE, NO VENTURE NO SUCCESS. Nobody will give it to you on a platter, today chineses, American and south African are doing businesses in nikgeria so do you have igbos in South Africa, china, and America doing businesses also. What we are looking at hear are ways to have our economy locked up and can venture overseas and repatriate funds home. It is imperative. I think the earlier you start knowing the principles of economic expansion the better for you and Nigeria. I love your interest in igbo land the land of rising sun. let us compete and don’t be a xenophobic person. Look at yesterday they burn CHISCO investment in Lekki, that is a bad image for your people but I know that those investment are insured. So what is your position?

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Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by tonychristopher: 9:28am On Feb 24, 2015
Abagworo:


If you are up to date you should have known Ibaka is dead. A new site has been proposed at Ibeno and it is to be called Ibom seaport. You can only help yourself and not depend on others.

Nice response, but building a sea port is not a big thing, the first state that built an airport singlehandedly was Imo state and they were the first state that built a university single handeldly also...but SEA PORT IS IN FEDERAL GOVERNMENT EXCVLUSIVE LIST


so how do we go about or around this


I am waiting for your postulations
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by ideologies(m): 12:58pm On Feb 24, 2015
Do you guys know how many times they have tried to move Maritime academy, Oron in Akwa Ibom, today they are building one in Lagos, since, Former governor of Akwa Ibom state fought them to stand still.

Do you know how many times they have tried to move Petroluem Training Institute(PTI) Effurum to North??
South South governors had to threaten Yara dua, that they will pull out from Amnesty deal for militant.


Nigeria is a forced marriage, it never existed.
The British amalgamated us for their selfish interest.
This 2015 is an expiring date, i will support every move to divide the country.

Proceeds from Agriculture and solid minerals from the North are never added to Federation accounts for sharing, but Revenue from crude oil is always brought to the table for sharing.

BH and their sponsors will now have their own space to bomb and enforce Islam as they want
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by NDPVF(m): 8:15pm On Feb 25, 2015
tonychristopher:



May lord bless you, i do understand your fears but one thing that you have to be sure and you can’t escape is the effects of globalization and new economic order. Thanks for the advise, I think that it’s the WEST that need this advise seriously, considering the situation inn Ibadan, Ilesan, Ota, Ifo et al .I do not want to talk about yorubas but I think that xenophobes is killing you people and that I know for a fact. In today economy there is no room for isolation and you cant be isolar. Even the Russians and Chinese that have communism they opened up and have foreign direct investment or what is know as the FDI and this will raise the capital expenditure for the communities and also develop the locals. Now that is what you should know. Yorubas should stop complaining that igbos or non yorubas are in their region. It shows cowardice of the highest level, the fear of competition. Nobody will give you opportunities in a platter. When yorubas did it in 80s by chasing the Ghana peeps away via Ghana must go ideosyncracies they thought that the economy will be theirs, this was after Awolowo in his ignoble way gave the economies from aviation to multinational to yorubas via indigenization policies. Today where are the yorubas and those firms. They are death.
That is by the way, if I am to advise you as one of my Yoruba friend will say, for yorubas to be relevant in the present economy they should venture out, Christopher Columbus opened up the globalization via new order. Today Brithian, Spain, France and other great world powers like china and America have their moneys in overseas. Isreal also is in that line. You go outside have a chunk of the foreign economy, pay about 10% tax to the local government and repatriate your funds home. This is what is keeping these countries afloat not their isolar domestic economy. This is what yorubas should learn not one oyo economic isolation theory. You cant be in isoltation today. If igbo leave you today the Asians will take over. Today Greece, Ireland and other few European countrie that need bailout are broke because they do not have offshore investments and workforce. If Greece had colonized vigorously like france or UK they wont be in this mess.
Now you made a mention of igbo been in your wasteland or west land, that I will like to refute, igbos are not in west because west is better, HELL NO, it is basically for economic reason and lagos is where we hav e igbos most by the virtue of former capital of Nigeria and igbo been Nigerians have 101% right to be there. Lagos was not developed with money from cocoa or gbegiri, no,m lagos was developed with the proceeds from crude oil just like Abuja today. So you should be grateful to these regions that produce crude and they are not in SOUTH WEST BUT IN SOUTH SOUTH AND SOUTH EAST. That is a fact. So my dear brother from the west, you do not need to fear all you need to do is find a niche market and be competitive in the modern day economy. It is survival of the fittest and learn how to venture out. LANDLORD TRAVEL AND SEE.
Thank lord that you have been to Enugu and maybe have you been to owerri or Onitsha lately, I doubt if you can use Ota, Ijebu Ode or Ilesan and Ibadan to compare those cities. These are cities that have functional international airports both crargo and passenger, tell me apart from MM1 in lagos any other airprt in the whole of south west region, even the inadan airport is death. That I know for sure cause I am always in bodija.

All I have to tell you is that FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE, NO VENTURE NO SUCCESS. Nobody will give it to you on a platter, today chineses, American and south African are doing businesses in nikgeria so do you have igbos in South Africa, china, and America doing businesses also. What we are looking at hear are ways to have our economy locked up and can venture overseas and repatriate funds home. It is imperative. I think the earlier you start knowing the principles of economic expansion the better for you and Nigeria. I love your interest in igbo land the land of rising sun. let us compete and don’t be a xenophobic person. Look at yesterday they burn CHISCO investment in Lekki, that is a bad image for your people but I know that those investment are insured. So what is your position?
This is bomb. Thumb up.
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by tonychristopher: 8:38am On Feb 26, 2015
NDPVF:
This is bomb. Thumb up.


just bared my mind...thats all. I am waiting for his submissions

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Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by warrior01: 9:02am On Feb 26, 2015
tonychristopher:



just bared my mind...thats all. I am waiting for his submissions
Waiting for his submissions? Bro, you go wait tire. You have said it all as my Yoruba peeps need to venture out and see what is happening in other places. Most of them sounds so ignorant.
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by Nobody: 9:28am On Feb 26, 2015
Ikengawo:
development of the east will come after we privatize everything


Schools
Hospitals
Sanitation
Security
Road Maintenance
and leave government responsible for enforcement or regulations only.
We could even privatize courts if we're willing to think creatively.



I say this because once you find a way to make it profitable, it booms in the east.


Private Schools: Peter Obi has the right idea about handing the schools back to missionaries and churches that they were taken from originally. Private schools in Nigeria are 10x the quality of public schools. We can privatize them by doing the following.
- Put them all for sale, make them for profit
- Allow poor families to register for tuition assistance were the government will pay a percentage of their children's fees automatically, or all if performance warrants is (first class etc).
- Tax properties in the neighborhood but have their portion of tax go directly to the school (not government) in their district like they do in the United States.
- Create parent teacher organizations that are responsible for stocking the schools with free equipment through fund raising drives.
- Government will pay schools an allocation based on quality of their teachers (% of teachers with Bachelors degrees, or teaching cert, or doctorates etc).
for example there can by 4 classes of school based on the quality of teacher.
First class schools will have a 90%-61% of teachers with masters degrees.
Second class a 60%-31% Third Class a 30%-11% and
Fourth a 10% or less.

Two teachers with a bachelors will count at 1 masters (but that already puts your percentage at 50%), three teachers with 2 year certifications counts at 1 masters (putting you in the 30s)

This will make schools compete for the best talent and weed out the least trained so that secondary and primary school teachers are paided like University lecturers and schools are stocked with the best of the best.


Handing which schools back to missionaries? That's a very lousy idea. The state now has hundreds of schools out of which less than a tenth were ever run by missionaries. And really, the sooner we rid ourselves of this silly, irrational colonial hangover, the better. Independence was in 1960. If today we still need "missonaries" to run our schools, we might as well close shop and call it a day.
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by tonychristopher: 9:33am On Feb 26, 2015
warrior01:

Waiting for his submissions? Bro, you go wait tire. You have said it all as my Yoruba peeps need to venture out and see what is happening in other places. Most of them sounds so ignorant.


Lol

the most annoying thing is that they will sound sophisticated and will love to advise you without hands on experience


I am waiting for his postulations
Re: Increasing Livability In Eastern States by Nobody: 9:50am On Feb 26, 2015
They will rather stay under bridges shouting pink lips, piercing and tattoo than to go to Onicha or Enugwu to become a tailor or computer technician

warrior01:

Waiting for his submissions? Bro, you go wait tire. You have said it all as my Yoruba peeps need to venture out and see what is happening in other places. Most of them sounds so ignorant.

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