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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:38am On Mar 28, 2015
coogar:


and that's exactly why we are questioning the integrity of that award. feb 1985 to april 2008 is 23 years. you are not a young player after 23 years. for fücks sake - are you not embarrassed that a player @ 23 that was 2nd in ballon d'or in 2007 was a nominee of a young player award in a domestic league of england?

You are not more football knowledgeable than English FA.

I am sure he lost to Fabregas because because you cannot win both categories, same with Bale to Wilshere.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:41am On Mar 28, 2015
elampiro:

The ability that made him took the ball in his half and ran past his marker(s) to score a vital goal in a final match against Barca. The one that made him the most expensive footballer.

how did you arrive at that?
you mean bale earns more than messi/ronaldo? or you are talking about transfer fee?

elampiro:

You are not more football knowledgeable than English FA.
I am sure he lost to Fabregas because because you cannot win both categories, same with Bale to Wilshere.

you are a dïckhead!
ronaldo won the young player & the PFA player the previous year in april 2007. you can win both categories. andy gray won both categories in 1977 as well.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 3:46am On Mar 28, 2015
coogar:


bale does not dribble like maradona. playing the ball 12 yards ahead and running hard to get it isn't dribbling.
This is the POINT I have been trying to drive home all day. "Kick and Run"/ "Push and Follow" is not doing a Diego Armando.

coogar:

this is why he believes a morönic jones is better than varane.
modric, parker, VDV were better than bale last season.
that award is a farce!
even spurs fans admitted bale was undeserving of the award in 2011.

Modric was certainly more important to the team.

You won't hear me argue with the award He won in 2013 but the one He won in 2011 was nothing but a joke tbh.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:47am On Mar 28, 2015
coogar:


how did you arrive at that?
you mean bale earns more than messi/ronaldo? or you are talking about transfer fee?

.

Do you break the bank to buy an every day product?

coogar:


you are a dïckhead!
ronaldo won the young player & the PFA player the previous year in april 2007. you can win both categories. andy gray won both categories in 1977 as well.

Then Ronaldo lost to Fabregas in that category. Same way Bale lost to Wilshere.

You know the votes came in before the UCL final was played and Ronaldo was being accused at the time of being a big game flop. You remember?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:49am On Mar 28, 2015
chic2pimp:

This is the POINT I have been trying to drive home all day. "Kick and Run"/ "Push and Follow" is not doing a Diego Armando.

dribbling means another thing to elampawa. grin



Modric was certainly more important to the team.

moda & VDV were the heartbeat of spurs that year.


You won't hear me argue with the award He won in 2013 but the one He won in 2011 was nothing but a joke tbh.

he made a bigger fist of it in 2013 but one could still argue for van persie & suarez that year too. bale is a media whöre - they love him to bits. harry kane is also towing the same line.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 3:51am On Mar 28, 2015
elampiro:


The ability that made him took the ball in his half and ran past his marker(s) to score a vital goal in a final match against Barca. The one that made him the most expensive footballer.

Elamps Baba that is called PACE nau grin. No one is denying he has PACE. He has it In abundance sef however I am still looking for that "Special Ability" you claim He has got.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:52am On Mar 28, 2015
chic2pimp:

This is the POINT I have been trying to drive home all day. "Kick and Run"/ "Push and Follow" is not doing a Diego Armando.

.

Dribbling is beating a man with ball. Which ever way it's done. Etin Esin can dribble better than Ronaldinho. Pius Okedia can dribble the wholefield with the ball always in his legs.

chic2pimp:

Modric was certainly more important to the team.

You won't hear me argue with the award He won in 2013 but the one He won in 2011 was nothing but a joke tbh.

Modric was sub standard to Bale. Bale brought out everyone else in the Spur team then. It was like Maradona going to Napoli.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 3:54am On Mar 28, 2015
elampiro:

Do you break the bank to buy an every day product?

£80m in 2009 is about £100m in 2013.


Then Ronaldo lost to Fabregas in that category. Same way Bale lost to Wilshere.

so how come bale won both categories in april 2013. i thought you said players can't win both at the same time. cheesy


You know the votes came in before the UCL final was played and Ronaldo was being accused at the time of being a big game flop. You remember?

ronaldo was united's highest goal scorer that season - that was the season united mashed up teams left right and centre. how's he a big game flop. the 2nd best player in the world is a big game flop? cheesy

chic2pimp:

Elamps Baba that is called PACE nau grin. No one is denying he has PACE. He has it In abundance sef however I am still looking for that "Special Ability" you claim He has got.

elamps doesn't understand the meaning of dribbling. he's mixing up pace with dribbling. bale is a linear player. kick & follow in a straight line. he cannot weave around players. he doesn't even turn from trouble like messi or hazard or even nani. bale = valencia + end product.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:54am On Mar 28, 2015
chic2pimp:


Elamps Baba that is called PACE nau grin. No one is denying he has PACE. He has it In abundance sef however I am still looking for that "Special Ability" you claim He has got.

If he doesn't have a special or unique ability, then no one has it. Messi doesn't dribble every day. It's only Hazard who has the ability to dribble every day.

Bale can also shoot accurately from distance.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:00am On Mar 28, 2015
coogar:


£80m in 2009 is about £100m in 2013.



Not true at all.

coogar:


so how come bale won both categories in april 2013. i thought you said players can't win both at the same time. cheesy



No longer important. What is important is that Bale and Ronaldo had the same win/lose senior to junior awards.

coogar:
ronaldo was united's highest goal scorer that season - that was the season united mashed up teams left right and centre. how's he a big game flop. the 2nd best player in the world is a big game flop? cheesy

They always said he wasn't playing well in big matches, even commentators said it. He responded to that criticism with his goal in the UCL final against Chelsea.

I think I gat to go. ELECTION THINGS. I WILL REST TIRE. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 4:01am On Mar 28, 2015
elampiro:


Dribbling is beating a man with ball. Which ever way it's done. Etin Esin can dribble better than Ronaldinho. Pius Okedia can dribble the wholefield with the ball always in his legs.


Modric was sub standard to Bale. Bale brought out everyone else in the Spur team then. It was like Maradona going to Napoli.

Any dummy can beat a man with the ball. Even Phat Ibime sef(i hail u o) grin. The word Running with the ball at pace is what Bale does.

The engine of the team sub standard to Bale?..... My Elamps Baba. Bia this one na new one o. You turn am to Maradona's performances at Napoli kwanu? grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 4:04am On Mar 28, 2015
elampiro:

Not true at all.

go & find out how much ronaldo's fee was in euros(2008) and how much bale's few was in 2013 in euros. cheesy



No longer important. What is important is that Bale and Ronaldo had the same win/lose senior to junior awards.

ronaldo was the best in the world - he's still the best in the world. bale isn't even in the top 10.


They always said he wasn't playing well in big matches, even commentators said it. He responded to that criticism with his goal in the UCL final against Chelsea.

but bale who scored 7 goals, 1 assist in 30 apps isn't a big game flop? bale that was destroyed by phil neville of everton & rafael wasn't a big game flop?


I think I gat to go. ELECTION THINGS. I WILL REST TIRE. cheesy

goodnight!
make sure you take pictures of your polling zone & vote wisely.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:06am On Mar 28, 2015
coogar:
elamps doesn't understand the meaning of dribbling. he's mixing up pace with dribbling. bale is a linear player. kick & follow in a straight line. he cannot weave around players. he doesn't even turn from trouble like messi or hazard or even nani. bale = valencia + end product.

Without pace, Messi and Hazard wold just be like Pius Ikedia.

Ikedia is a better dribbler than Messi but he didnt have the pace. Okocha and Etin suffered similar fate. They could dribble but they havent the speed to advance directly like Messi. I had one guy in my team called Wale grin. He could dribble a team of 30 players but he had the speed os a snail.

So whether pace or no pace, when you are able to get a defender behind you to score, you are a great dribbler. AFTER ALL THE GREATEST DRIBBLES DONT MAKE IT DUE TO LACK OF PACE.

good night.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:08am On Mar 28, 2015
coogar:


go & find out how much ronaldo's fee was in euros(2008) and how much bale's few was in 2013 in euros. cheesy.

That's not the way to look at it. Look at the inflation in the countries involved and the currency strength in those years.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:11am On Mar 28, 2015
Good night.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 4:13am On Mar 28, 2015
coogar:

moda & VDV were the heartbeat of spurs that year.

he made a bigger fist of it in 2013 but one could still argue for van persie & suarez that year too. bale is a media whöre - they love him to bits. harry kane is also towing the same line.
Did Van Persie's goals not win Utd the league that season? Still at that I willing to accept his 2013 award not the 2011 version however.

coogar:

elamps doesn't understand the meaning of dribbling. he's mixing up pace with dribbling. bale is a linear player. kick & follow in a straight line. he cannot weave around players. he doesn't even turn from trouble like messi or hazard or even nani. bale = valencia + end product.

Don't mind Elamps. I have seen Xavi neatly glide away from players but I won't automatically label him a dribbler or say his dribbling skills are on par with Andres
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by mattfeuter(m): 8:15am On Mar 28, 2015
elampiro:


I like his game. He drives the ball past defenders. However, we should watch him next season, but should he perform his price will go above 50m.

Sturridge is not dead yet. He just came from injury. Bent didn't have much football skills. Welbeck has never been a great scorer, he is relevant for other things he brings to the table.

Watching Wellbeck play yesterday, I still wonder how we let him go! He was everywhere.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 8:18am On Mar 28, 2015
elampiro:


Without pace, Messi and Hazard wold just be like Pius Ikedia.

Ikedia is a better dribbler than Messi but he didnt have the pace. Okocha and Etin suffered similar fate. They could dribble but they havent the speed to advance directly like Messi. I had one guy in my team called Wale grin. He could dribble a team of 30 players but he had the speed os a snail.

So whether pace or no pace, when you are able to get a defender behind you to score, you are a great dribbler. AFTER ALL THE GREATEST DRIBBLES DONT MAKE IT DUE TO LACK OF PACE.

good night.

Elampiro, Stop telling lies on a public forum....

Small time now, you go begin dey give us stories on how you coached him for that field behind Agbor road when in actual fact, your earlier assertions suggest you don't even know who the dude is.. angry angry

Pius ikedia and Tijani Babangida were arguably the quickest players in Africa at that time. Pius was Nigeria's version of Shaun-wright-Philips...plenty of pace but little tactical awareness and Ofcourse, zero end product!!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:31am On Mar 28, 2015
United are the second-best-supported club in the world this season and sell out Old Trafford to its 75,000 capacity for almost every game.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ibime(m): 9:35am On Mar 28, 2015
chic2pimp:


Any dummy can beat a man with the ball. Even Phat Ibime sef(i hail u o) grin. The word Running with the ball at pace is what Bale does.

The engine of the team sub standard to Bale?..... My Elamps Baba. Bia this one na new one o. You turn am to Maradona's performances at Napoli kwanu? grin

Ninja don't be calling my name anyhow. I'm a technician with the ball. I dribble ninjas while walking sef.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ibime(m): 9:46am On Mar 28, 2015
elampiro:


Without pace, Messi and Hazard wold just be like Pius Ikedia.

Ikedia is a better dribbler than Messi but he didnt have the pace.


Ikedia didn't have pace? That was his greatest attribute. It was decision making he lacked.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MrTA(m): 9:48am On Mar 28, 2015
I'm surprised some think bale was destroying from leftback. It was well documented he was poor there because he was a very poor positional left back. His defending was terrible and exposed spurs but his attacking runs made Harry convert him to left wing and even then his output wasn't all that amazing. I even remember Nani tearing spurs a new one when Bale played leftback and nani scored an amazing goal from his side at old Trafford.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 11:34am On Mar 28, 2015
MrTA:
I'm surprised some think bale was destroying from leftback. It was well documented he was poor there because he was a very poor positional left back. His defending was terrible and exposed spurs but his attacking runs made Harry convert him to left wing and even then his output wasn't all that amazing. I even remember Nani tearing spurs a new one when Bale played leftback and nani scored an amazing goal from his side at old Trafford.

elampawa has a slight amnesia.....
look at him saying messi cannot dribble. messi that can kill a marker from a standing position. i remember him destroying scholes in the 2-legged tie in 07/08 near the corner side from a standing position.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by RuuDie(m): 11:46am On Mar 28, 2015
@ elampiro

Whatever you say or do - please, please, please - do not blaspheme against King Leo Messi!

grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 2:56pm On Mar 28, 2015
chic2pimp:


Elamps Baba that is called PACE nau grin. No one is denying he has PACE. He has it In abundance sef however I am still looking for that "Special Ability" you claim He has got.
Bale is a great free kick taker and can dribble the ball well, possesses a very powerful shot and can score from just about anywhere on his day.
Even his goals and assist numbers are great.
He is a big occasion player as he showed it twice for the entitled Madrid fans.
Don't sleep on the Monkey lord he is an Elite player.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 3:01pm On Mar 28, 2015
bottom line is... if Real Madrid wants to get rid of Bale ,he is welcomed at united ,whether he can dribble like Messi or not
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 3:07pm On Mar 28, 2015
Dadehmola:


Elampiro, Stop telling lies on a public forum....

Small time now, you go begin dey give us stories on how you coached him for that field behind Agbor road when in actual fact, your earlier assertions suggest you don't even know who the dude is.. angry angry

Pius ikedia and Tijani Babangida were arguably the quickest players in Africa at that time. Pius was Nigeria's version of Shaun-wright-Philips...plenty of pace but little tactical awareness and Ofcourse, zero end product!!




How somebody can claim that Pius Ikedia didnt have pace is beyond me.
Pace was the only thing Pius actually had

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 3:27pm On Mar 28, 2015
SIRcumalot:

Bale is a great free kick taker and can dribble the ball well, possesses a very powerful shot and can score from just about anywhere on his day.
Even his goals and assist numbers are great.
He is a big occasion player as he showed it twice for the entitled Madrid fans.
Don't sleep on the Monkey lord he is an Elite player.

I can name 1001 other Good freekick takers so that's nothing to brag about. As far as dribbling is concerned, I think we both have different definitions of that word. I call what Bale does "Kick And Folllow"

Never said He wasn't an elite player nor did I say He never performs on the big occasions. Maybe Coogs did I don't know. That He wasn't deserving of the PFA Award in 2011 what was I said.

All in all is Bale is Good player YES. Is He overhyped DEFINITELY!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 3:29pm On Mar 28, 2015
Ibime:


Ninja don't be calling my name anyhow. I'm a technician with the ball. I dribble ninjas while walking sef.

I no see how I dey call you Maradona? Nah your dribbling skills sure pass sef grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 3:41pm On Mar 28, 2015
Bale is not overhyped at all chic2pimp

AT ALL
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 3:43pm On Mar 28, 2015
The fact that Elampiro stated that Ikedia lacked pace suggests that he never actually saw Ikedia play. Ikedia's 2 greatest "assets" were PACE and STUPIDITY........well documented.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 3:52pm On Mar 28, 2015
Nihilist:


How somebody can claim that Pius Ikedia didnt have pace is beyond me.
Pace was the only thing Pius actually had

I tire Mehn..

HML sir, even tho e no go stop away matches

Nihilist:
Bale is not overhyped at all chic2pimp
AT ALL


The truth is that bale seems to need plenty of space before he thrives. If the opponent sits deep (so as to prevent him from using his "kick and follow" tactic to devastating effect), and also close him down on time (so as to prevent him from shooting outside the box), chances are that the Welshman would be anonymous throughout the game.

#easiersaidthandone#

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