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Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by tpiadotcom: 11:52pm On Jun 04, 2015
I personally dont think so.

Do you disagree?
Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by delishpot: 12:02am On Jun 05, 2015
Explain better OP.
Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by tpiadotcom: 12:53am On Jun 05, 2015
I mean I don't think there's any Nigerian family with no mixed people. Mixed as in either non- black or non- Nigerian.

Anyone who thinks there is, probably just hasn't looked properly.
Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by Ihuomadinihu: 6:59am On Jun 05, 2015
tpiadotcom:
I mean I don't think there's any Nigerian family with no mixed people. Mixed as in either non- black or non- Nigerian.

Anyone who thinks there is, probably just hasn't looked properly.
What's the basis of this assertion?

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Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by tpiadotcom: 4:07pm On Jun 05, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:

What's the basis of this assertion?

facts.
Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by Ihuomadinihu: 4:16pm On Jun 05, 2015
tpiadotcom:

facts.
What facts?

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Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by anonymous6(f): 4:50pm On Jun 05, 2015
tpiadotcom:
I personally dont think so.

Do you disagree?

I don't think it is that simple, because it depends on what mix you are talking about; race, ethnicity/tribe and etc and also do you mean immediate family or distant family or ancestors. First of all it is obvious majority or almost all nigerian families are Black Nigerian, only a few families in Nigeria are Interracial marriages for example arab & Nigerian or White European & Nigerian so I disagree in the race part. When it comes to Ethnicity/Tribal for the most part people marry within their tribe then outside their tribe, thats why majority of families in Nigeria are of one tribe however mixed tribal marriages have increased but not big enough to make a difference plus have you forgotten that some Nigerians that do happen to be mixed traditionally claim their fathers tribe for identitiy but that old school rule is slowly changing. Distant family it depends and ancestors is debatable to a extent but ancestors are not direct families in the end of the day. So to me their are many Nigerian families with no mixed people in it.

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Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by anonymous6(f): 4:51pm On Jun 05, 2015
tpiadotcom:


facts.

can you give the facts

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Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by tpiadotcom: 8:40pm On Jun 05, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:

What facts?

the facts presenting.
Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by tpiadotcom: 8:41pm On Jun 05, 2015
anonymous6:


I don't think it is that simple, because it depends on what mix you are talking about; race, ethnicity/tribe and etc and also do you mean immediate family or distant family or ancestors. First of all it is obvious majority or almost all nigerian families are Black Nigerian, only a few families in Nigeria are Interracial marriages for example arab & Nigerian or White European & Nigerian so I disagree in the race part. When it comes to Ethnicity/Tribal for the most part people marry within their tribe then outside their tribe, thats why majority of families in Nigeria are of one tribe however mixed tribal marriages have increased but not big enough to make a difference plus have you forgotten that some Nigerians that do happen to be mixed traditionally claim their fathers tribe for identitiy but that old school rule is slowly changing. Distant family it depends and ancestors is debatable to a extent but ancestors are not direct families in the end of the day. So to me their are many Nigerian families with no mixed people in it.


I think most Nigerian families who assume they have no mixed people, just havent looked far enough.

I can almost guarantee they will find them if they do.

The only exceptions would be if the family has been actively discouraging such unions since centuries ago, I doubt there's any such policy in the majority of Nigerian families. You'd have to be extremely militant, and even then. . . . . . . . .
Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by tpiadotcom: 8:42pm On Jun 05, 2015
anonymous6:


can you give the facts

they're not publicly known.
Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by 2prexios: 9:07pm On Jun 05, 2015
tpiadotcom:


facts.
cheesy Its always tpia. Let me help the argument in some ways with this new thread of mine. I hope you'll love it.

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Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by tpiadotcom: 9:09pm On Jun 05, 2015


do you disagree?
Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by anonymous6(f): 9:27pm On Jun 05, 2015
tpiadotcom:



I think most Nigerian families who assume they have no mixed people, just havent looked far enough.

I can almost guarantee they will find them if they do.

The only exceptions would be if the family has been actively discouraging such unions since centuries ago, I doubt there's any such policy in the majority of Nigerian families. You'd have to be extremely militant, and even then. . . . . . . . .

You basically answered my question if you want to go that far back you must involve all humans around the world because we all came from africa and nobody can really know that far back or care to which I was saying when it comes to ancestry but thats inevitable, so nobody can know unless they take a ancestry test, that has nothing to do with a immediate family, you need to reword your thread cause I think what you mean is: Any Nigerian family with aboslutely no mixed ancestry at all? would have been better cause african tribes have been intermingling with each other in Africa since the begining of time so for the most part its possible & true but it is also possible that there could be many families that don't have that Mixed tribal ancestry at all. Yo Yo ma for example is 100% asian but has a racial ancestral connection to Eva Longoria.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/genetic-crossroads/201003/dna-ancestry-testing-tv

Racially, depending on what tribe in Africa you are from you can easily know, for example Egyptians are heavily mixed of arab, white euopean and Black african today in their racial blood line However its the complete reverse with the Ashanti tribe of Ghana for example. Your thread is talking about ancestry not families, most direct families and extended relative today will disagree with you, especially in Nigeria cause they don't have mixed relatives in their face running around but ancestry which is what I think you mean is completely different. You can ask the same question to any nationality of old world continents(Africa, Asia, Europe) specifically this question and for the most part their will be disagreement cause of the wording of your thread saying family instead of ancestry.

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Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by tpiadotcom: 9:29pm On Jun 05, 2015
no, I'm not referring to dna test "ancestry" but the real thing. And, I specifically mean Nigeria.

Most Nigerian families have at least one mixed relative at some point.

You might have to go far to find the person or persons, however.

In addition, my primary context is family, more than ancestry. Family as in descendants of a particular person or persons, among whom will be found at least one individual who is mixed.
Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by anonymous6(f): 9:35pm On Jun 05, 2015
tpiadotcom:
no, I'm not referring to dna test "ancestry" but the real thing. And, I specifically mean Nigeria.

Most Nigerian families have at least one mixed relative at some point.

You might have to go far to find the person or persons, however.

In addition, my primary context is family, more than ancestry. Family as in descendants of a particular person or persons, among whom will be found at least one individual who is mixed.

Most Nigerian families have at least one mixed relative at one point? yea its possible and true for some but not for all Nigerian families

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Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by tpiadotcom: 9:37pm On Jun 05, 2015
anonymous6:


Most Nigerian families have at least one mixed relative at one point? yea its possible and true for some but not for all Nigerian families




I think it might be extremely difficult to find any Nigerian family with nobody who is mixed.
Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by 2prexios: 10:08pm On Jun 05, 2015
tpiadotcom:


do you disagree?
I dont disagree, but scarcely will you find people with indigenous depth to deal with your question. They will rush to ancestory.com which I think now has all the answers.
Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by tpiadotcom: 10:11pm On Jun 05, 2015
ancestry.com is western i think.


the indigenous record would be somewhere else, as you know.
Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by 2prexios: 10:24pm On Jun 05, 2015
tpiadotcom:
ancestry.com is western i think.


the indigenous record would be somewhere else, as you know.
Yes, as in oriki or family traditions if any. But how many people really value such that much? Again I think oriki only exist among the Yoruba and the Egun as far as I know, and not all has historical bearing as one would have wished. But all hint has its secret.
Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by Ihuomadinihu: 11:02pm On Jun 05, 2015
This is just hypothetical. What actually informed this assertion? How do you identify mixed families? How far back do you intend to search for mixed ancestry? How many Nigerian families have a record of foreign members? What sort of mixture are you referring to? Inter ethnic or Multi racial? Don't know how one will just land on nairaland and assume that all Nigerians are mixed without emprical backups.

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Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by 2prexios: 11:22pm On Jun 05, 2015
You can't always tell what may come out of this. Maybe some can trace their origin as far back as possible, who knows?
Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by tpiadotcom: 12:22am On Jun 06, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:
This is just hypothetical. What actually informed this assertion? How do you identify mixed families? How far back do you intend to search for mixed ancestry? How many Nigerian families have a record of foreign members? What sort of mixture are you referring to? Inter ethnic or Multi racial? Don't know how one will just land on nairaland and assume that all Nigerians are mixed without emprical backups.

let me spell this out in plain language:

It is highly, nay, extremely doubtful there is any Nigerian family that doesnt have at least one relative or member who is mixed with an outside ethnicity or race.

Note: I did not say ancestor.





How many Nigerian families have a record of foreign members?

probably relatively few.

However, that doesnt mean nobody is keeping track.
Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by tpiadotcom: 12:23am On Jun 06, 2015
2prexios:
You can't always tell what may come out of this. Maybe some can trace their origin as far back as possible, who knows?

its not about origins but current lineages.
Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by 2prexios: 6:43am On Jun 06, 2015
tpiadotcom:


its not about origins but current lineages.
But nigeria is not that diverse with multinationals as you have in say, south Africa. Nigeria was never a rainbow country.
Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by anonymous6(f): 12:57pm On Jun 06, 2015
tpiadotcom:





I think it might be extremely difficult to find any Nigerian family with nobody who is mixed.

Sorry but your leaning towards ancestry, especially ethnically its very likely true but families for the most part I don't agree fully

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Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by anonymous6(f): 12:59pm On Jun 06, 2015
tpiadotcom:
ancestry.com is western i think.


the indigenous record would be somewhere else, as you know.

Its western when it comes to how it started but based on what you asking and how people will know answers to your question ancestry.com is the only answer to any nationality you ask that question from

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Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by anonymous6(f): 12:59pm On Jun 06, 2015
2prexios:
But nigeria is not that diverse with multinationals as you have in say, south Africa. Nigeria was never a rainbow country.

Amen, c/s 100%
If he was asking this question to new world continents or countries like South Africa, America, Brazil, and etc this question would make more sense but Nigeria lol, where 99% of people are black. The op is thinking and leaning towards ancestry not families, which is a whole different kettle of fish

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Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by anonymous6(f): 1:00pm On Jun 06, 2015
Ihuomadinihu:
This is just hypothetical. What actually informed this assertion? How do you identify mixed families? How far back do you intend to search for mixed ancestry? How many Nigerian families have a record of foreign members? What sort of mixture are you referring to? Inter ethnic or Multi racial? Don't know how one will just land on nairaland and assume that all Nigerians are mixed without emprical backups.

Amen
Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by 2prexios: 1:33pm On Jun 06, 2015
anonymous6:


Amen, c/s 100%
If he was asking this question to new world continents or countries like South Africa, America, Brazil, and etc this question would make more sense but Nigeria lol, where 99% of people are black. The op is thinking and leaning towards ancestry not families, which is a whole different kettle of fish
Exactly, non Nigerian African communities are mainly ghanians, except the Fons who are at the fringe of the border. Non Africans are expatrates that never mix with Nigerians (in any known significant number), such as indians that were employed by old Western regions free education scheme in the 60s to 70s. Industry attract foreigners to Nigeria back then and not sight seeing as is the norm in East Africa. Likewise, white man die at the bite of our mosquitos, so we are saved of the Boar/Zulu experience. I think the Briggs fit in with op's idea. Nigerian culture may not readily absorb or allow any alien to uproot one of their own just like that.
Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by tpiadotcom: 1:35pm On Jun 06, 2015
anonymous6:


Sorry but your leaning towards ancestry, especially ethnically its very likely true but families for the most part I don't agree fully


Not all nigerians live in nigeria.

Ancestry is not the point of reference because the time frame I'm looking at is a more current one
Re: Any Nigerian Family With Absolutely No Mixed People At All? by tpiadotcom: 1:35pm On Jun 06, 2015
anonymous6:


Its western when it comes to how it started but based on what you asking and how people will know answers to your question ancestry.com is the only answer to any nationality you ask that question from


Most nigerians are not on ancestry.com.

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