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Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by cricifixo: 1:42pm On Jun 24, 2015
Nigerian police officer undergoing rigorous training

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Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by SirShymexx: 1:43pm On Jun 24, 2015
BlackBaron:
Some of these military training have not translated to clinical results though.
E.g. the Iraqi army in spite of their 'insane training' still fled from IS.

Spetnaz is not just clinical enough ala hostage situations.

And please don't tell me 'planting' heads as they do in Nigerian military circles is training. Its not.
As yucky as eating bugs,snakes and so, survivalists have to go through it especially if you're a soldier. I suspect it is not entirely engrained in the Nigerian training regime, someone please correct if I'm wrong.

When the SA mercs came on for training troops and engagement of BH, they brought to the fore extensive jungle/savanna type orientation which saw them mount lightning attacks and relentless pursuits of BH elements.

I don't think the Iraq special forces fled from ISIS - there was a lot of sabotage involved, with all the Sunni commanders crossing to the other side. And you have the US sabotaging a lot of things there. Then again, those are regular forces - not special forces. Iraqi special forces are trained by Iranian Quds Force.

Also, this training is for endurance, not for doctrine/rules-of-engagement. When it comes to endurance, no one can outlast Spetnaz...and maybe SAS. And in engagement, it's not always about how clinical you're, it's about getting the job done.
Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by Nobody: 1:45pm On Jun 24, 2015
mrbillz:
LOL... THAT AINT MY SPECIALTY. ONLY READ A BOOK ABOUT SNAKES OF THE WORLD LONG WHILE AGO. AND GOT TO KNOW ALL I HAVE EDUCATED YOU WITH. WOULD HAVE LOVE TO ELUCIDATE FURTHER, BUT GOOGLE WOULD BE YOUR BETTER COMPANION. WE ARE ALL STILL LEARNING...
I prefer the account of the site/book you once googled/read. So google/read more and Educate me more.
Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by Sunkyphil(m): 1:52pm On Jun 24, 2015
bluice2:








Well, the wickedness of man in recent times even surprises satan and makes him feel like a learner
lols

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Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by BlackBaron: 1:55pm On Jun 24, 2015
SirShymexx:


I don't think the Iraq special forces fled from ISIS - there was a lot of sabotage involved, with all the Sunni commanders crossing to the other side. And you have the US sabotaging a lot of things there. Then again, those are regular forces - not special forces. Iraqi special forces are trained by Iranian Quds Force.

Also, this training is for endurance, not for doctrine/rules-of-engagement. When it comes to endurance, no one can outlast Spetnaz...and maybe SAS. And in engagement, it's not always about how clinical you're, it's about getting the job done.
Yeah, some of this are to prepare them mentally for the most extreme of conditions. Plans may go off course from time to time and may push soldiers into dire situations. Getting captured and tortured, forced to take extreme routes in order to accomplish a course of action etc.

When I allude to clinical, I'm referring to their records against hostage crises for example. Beslan school massacre. Though if comparing gears, Spetnaz may be outmached compared to maybe SEALS and SAS.
I'm just saying Spetznaz is mainly more brawn than tactics , not discrediting them but in the top tiers of SF, I won't place them on top of my list.

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Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by codedearner(m): 1:59pm On Jun 24, 2015
They really deserve to command respect
Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by mrbillz(m): 2:05pm On Jun 24, 2015
Logician:
I prefer the account of the site/book you once googled/read. So google/read more and Educate me more.
LOL! Educate yourself more bro. No time... Already told you how to fish. Given you enough fishes already
Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by daveP(m): 2:07pm On Jun 24, 2015
olayinkarotex:
I CANT DO THIS FOR NIGERIA-AM SORRY
ALL THOSE IGNORANTLY INTERESTED IN JOIN NIGERIAN ARMY, ETC SHOULD WAKE UP.

(Mimic helen paul's voice) i want to join army, i want to join navy, i wantu join.....


I pity all of una. Our military are tough, but not as tough. Which mean when bringing into comparism, they are "nowhere to close to being found"

be the human/civilian you love to be. grin
Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by UjSizzle(f): 2:13pm On Jun 24, 2015
That's exactly how they beat the humanity out of them.
But then again it's war. You can't kill a person if you're a ninny.

sad
Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by SirShymexx: 2:14pm On Jun 24, 2015
BlackBaron:

Yeah, some of this are to prepare them mentally for the most extreme of conditions. Plans may go off course from time to time and may push soldiers into dire situations. Getting captured and tortured, forced to take extreme routes in order to accomplish a course of action etc.

When I allude to clinical, I'm referring to their records against hostage crises for example. Beslan school massacre. Though if comparing gears, Spetnaz may be outmached compared to maybe SEALS and SAS.

I get where you're coming from. I believe the rules of engagement for Spetnaz is about getting the job, regardless of how they do it, albeit that has changed a bit recently. Unlike the SAS for example, which is about being clinical, and emphasis is always on minimal casualties. Also, it depends on the mission and the level of difficulty/hazard encountered during the operation cos you can never plan for that. A classic example was the US SEALS and Black Hawk shot down in Somalia - with that you have to fight your way out and survive, and being clinical is the last thing on ya mind. Ditto the recent botched US SEALS operation in Somalia, where they all had to run for their lives. So ability to survive in the worst scenario, with unshaken/great endurance will always be paramount before anything else. And most special forces would rather die than be captured, and even when they're captured, they have to be able endure whatever punishments they're put through - to maintain that code of silence.

Do you remember the suicidal Operation Mikado/Plum Duff by the SAS during the Falklands war? Imagine if they had embarked on a mission as suicidal as that one - being clinical would've been the last thing of their minds.

Anyway, the new Spetnaz gear looks nice as well. SAS still remains the best. Then maybe the SEALS - the Germans/French aren't that bad. The Alpha Group in Spetnaz haven't been on enough missions to grade them yet. But their training is the craziest.

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Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by daveP(m): 2:14pm On Jun 24, 2015
TheObserver:
This is why killing is a piece of cake for soldiers. Don't blame the system. They have to undergo extremes to be worthy of being true defenders of a nation.

I've fallen for the bolded before. Not again. These training are extremely beyond defending a country. They are mentally preparing them for the Grand war in the plain of Megiddo!!

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Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by Nobody: 2:23pm On Jun 24, 2015
The trick to doing all this training is teamwork; its a regular phonemon that humans when in a group excel in difficult physical feats as opposed to being alone. They look amazing to the average man but I'm very sure most of us with enough training can endure it when grouped with like-minded individuals.

In the 21st century all this is a rarity. Nowadays cyber-warfare is the way forward.

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Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by bestwashcleaner: 2:33pm On Jun 24, 2015
Chai Soldiers are doing a great job.
Meanwhile please patronize Hary Building Concept. As the best awaits you with us. Thanks.

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Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by kuuljay(m): 2:49pm On Jun 24, 2015
idu1:
O no be alomo dem go take do am ogrin

Na methanolgrin ur liver and intestines go drygrin
what ever they bring as long as it's 24/7 boozing, guy I go do am, nnah!!! forget oo!!
Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by kuuljay(m): 2:51pm On Jun 24, 2015
sinestro24:


lmao, only alomo. you fit want begin drive armoured tank
come add am monkey tail, na them go dey beg me make I rest grin grin grin
Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by Eggheaded(m): 3:06pm On Jun 24, 2015
Minet16:





Do Nigeria's military also go through all this.

Bros Morning o.





jeez after all this, the soldiers tend to be much more humble and down to earth people... back 2 base, in Nigeria, the soldiers training is bullshit, cus some people entered through connection, so they are just lazy bones... ordinary sambisa they can't enter... they'll now come to the road and be boning face, ready to tell civillians "MY FRIEND, ENTER THAT GUTTER". MTCHEWWW RUBBISH




#@MINET16

Have you been there?
They trained hard but DUE TO THE SITUATION IN NIGERIA,
ARMY OPERATION REMAINS SECRET. WHICH IS GOOD.
BECAUSE IT DOESNT NOT EXPOSE THEM
Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by vinelli(m): 3:13pm On Jun 24, 2015
Sile12:
6. Philippine Navy SEAL Drunk “Hell Week”


During Philippine Navy SEAL’s final week of training, dubbed “Hell Week,” soldiers are required to stay awake for the entire week, without more than an hour rest at a time, while performing rigorous training exercises. What takes this to another level is that they’re required to do tasks such as target shooting, running six miles and swimming 18 miles, all while drunk.
Now this is something I can do well

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Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by Burger01(m): 3:21pm On Jun 24, 2015
SirShymexx:


Lmao...I'm a changed man, with a whole new game plan - look at the range, man. cool

The Nigerian Jews can be a tad bit annoying sometimes (perhaps all the time if I'm being honest lol). And with the regular folks, you'll read some comments and think, "Did someone just say this with a straight face"? You just have to smack these folks from time to time, mayyne - service to humanity.
cheesy

That your pp go give someone hangover cheesy
Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by Orunto: 3:29pm On Jun 24, 2015
All the Trainers should be arrested and sent to ICC, by Amnesty International, for war crimes. IF Nigeria has trained its soldiers this hard, Amnesty would have cried foul and incriminated our Generals to ICC. SILLY AI.

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Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by Greenbuoy(m): 3:45pm On Jun 24, 2015
N o n s e n s e

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Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by millhouse: 3:47pm On Jun 24, 2015
HABA
Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by BlackBaron: 3:48pm On Jun 24, 2015
SirShymexx:


I get where you're coming from. I believe the rules of engagement for Spetnaz is about getting the job, regardless of how they do it, albeit that has changed a bit recently. Unlike the SAS for example, which is about being clinical, and emphasis is always on minimal casualties. Also, it depends on the mission and the level of difficulty/hazard encountered during the operation cos you can never plan for that. A classic example was the US SEALS and Black Hawk shot down in Somalia - with that you have to fight your way out and survive, and being clinical is the last thing on ya mind. Ditto the recent botched US SEALS operation in Somalia, where they all had to run for their lives. So ability to survive in the worst scenario, with unshaken/great endurance will always be paramount before anything else. And most special forces would rather die than be captured, and even when they're captured, they have to be able endure whatever punishments they're put through - to maintain that code of silence.

Do you remember the suicidal Operation Mikado/Plum Duff by the SAS during the Falklands war? Imagine if they had embarked on a mission as suicidal as that one - being clinical would've been the last thing of their minds.

Anyway, the new Spetnaz gear looks nice as well. SAS still remains the best. Then maybe the SEALS - the Germans/French aren't that bad. The Alpha Group in Spetnaz haven't been on enough missions to grade them yet. But their training is the craziest.
Now you get my point, all this boils down to how this 'extremes' fits into training. Some more useful than others while some are just plain useless. Eg flying over barbed wires and throwing an axe whilst upside down. It looks cool, but would also likely get them punctured full of bullet holes before they hit the ground.

After Black Hawk Somalia, the US probably went on to doctor their doctrine regarding when to be methodical vs fighting your way out of death. I know the recent flopped exercise but we can also count hundreds of others where the missions were kill or capture which they accomplished. The failed Somalia one saw at least no member captured or killed and they had to fight their way out of there after more Al Shabab reinforcements poured in. So maybe at least now, they've touched up with the 'maximum force aspect'. Not going to lie though, there's also a huge array of support via stealth, overwhelming firepower by way of AC 130s well above monitoring if shite hits the fan for the Americans and British. Though in how applicable their training regimes/doctrines are, Spetsnaz are lagging. Maybe in hand to hand combat, then heck no, I'll vouch for the Ruskies but it boils down to how much hand combat is usually applicable in today's world.

In all, I'm just implying some doctrines are more balanced than others. The Spetsnaz fair enough are not getting exposed to more different situations so may explain how their doctrines are honed based on available scenarios they are exposed to. The Americans and British are trying their hands at different environments, theaters.

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Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by iPopAlomo(m): 3:58pm On Jun 24, 2015
Ruq:
As I see Sile12 I no fit dull am.

Modified
pls can we call the attention of equality seekers and ask them if they would still seek equal with this. I know their drill can't be half this tough.


if I hear...
Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by Alao96(m): 4:10pm On Jun 24, 2015
I dy fear belarus. Oooo. Dere soldiers ya werey oooo
.. Country wey dy silent dere army come mad again.... Walai dem no born isis papa make dem near all dis countries

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Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by stonemind(f): 4:20pm On Jun 24, 2015
Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by punche(m): 4:23pm On Jun 24, 2015
My passion..
Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by God2man(m): 4:25pm On Jun 24, 2015
The Bible says endure hardness as a good soldier of Christ.
This is vanity.
The Chrlstian soldier find it difficult to fast for 7 days without food. A crown is waiting in heaven for the victorious christian.

Why do you want to kill yourself for something that has no eternal value?

I wonder !

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Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by sweetgala(m): 4:27pm On Jun 24, 2015
Sile12:


Seals/Marines, others are not in for the money, but to protect and serve the Homeland with their lives. In some countries, citizens are in the Military for power, to intimidate innocent civilians, and for Money. That's why they will never move forward.

SEALS do get paid rather well and get to travel much, but it is gruesome work still
Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by calabaman(m): 4:50pm On Jun 24, 2015
I LOVE THE ARMY

I CAN DO THIS.
Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by luvly101: 4:56pm On Jun 24, 2015
Obiagelli:


shocked shocked how is this even possible

the soldiers are flipped with a catapult-like machine
Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by UyiIredia(m): 4:58pm On Jun 24, 2015
Sile12:
14. Thai navy sailors are trained to survive in the tropical jungle.

In a joint military exercise in 2013, they taught US Marines to drink cobra blood.

▶ A US Marine drinking the blood of a cobra during a jungle survival exercise with the Thai Navy as part of the “Cobra Gold 2013″ joint military exercise, at a military base in ChonBuri province in 2013. About 13,000 soldiers from seven countries, Thailand, US, Singapore, Indonesia, Japan, South Korea, and Malaysia participated in the 11-day military exercise.

Jesus ! shocked
Re: Some Insane Military Training Around The World. by UyiIredia(m): 5:33pm On Jun 24, 2015
jusRadical:
No be only one bullet to the right place go end all these?

Lol ! My broda u talk true. After all d training one bullet still fit kill them.

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