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Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by ucomeoga: 11:44pm On Sep 01, 2015
Please, let's not wash our dirty clothes in public. Wetin be this quarrel of forgiveness of sins? Let us behave like the Bereans in Acts 17:11.
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Nobody: 12:17am On Sep 02, 2015
missKiffy:
Catholics why do you seek forgiveness from a priest instead of from God


That is ee. Sometimes I wonder if there are people inside that church....
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Franky9584(m): 12:25am On Sep 02, 2015
oyadanoz:


God forgives through Jesus. name above all names even in heaven not marry nor man like u. havent u hard ya are gods on earth all men are equal befor God .prayer without Jesus has no effect. read the history of catholic only then will u know u have been deseived by doctrines of men. only God has the final say. try and read your bible and be wise. non of the apostles prays through marry dont know were u get that from.

unfortunately am not here for arguement but plz read dose bible verses
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Nobody: 3:15am On Sep 02, 2015
247notire:
To all u who say only God forgives, who said anything contrary? The priest tells u after a confession that your sins are forgiven, and by God of course, ur getting it twisted. Meanwhile humans can always intercede for one another, ots biblical. Also recall that a king can pardon his subject who shows contrition and even in heaven they are truly pardoned. Priesthood is also a form of divine royalty. See John 20:23. Even you and I have the power to tell ppl that they are forgiven of their sins. So we all share in that responsibility of God, as well as in being co - creators. Shalom.

The funny thing z dat, Pentecostal jux too like going against this doctrine of the Catholic church for no any oda reason but bcuz dey like to hide their ass after sinning from every1. Do they know how hard z it to work up to sm1 to confess ur evil deeds? Hell yes! n that z y dey chose to sin as dey like bcuz at d end dey ll jux lock d door n shed fake tears for d moment n ask God to forgive them. Nobody holy pass sha. Dey should do Dia own n let Catholics do theirs.

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Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Nobody: 3:22am On Sep 02, 2015
saintkel:
Swthrt d word confess means ask for forgiveness wen u wrong one another not wen u sin against God and u beg man for forgiveness

Your comment z so funny. So if u want to sin against God u ll go to heaven n say, slap God abi? So when you steal a man's money, u wrong him right? But u definitely didn't sin against God right? Funny mind.

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Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Nobody: 4:47am On Sep 02, 2015
Dannyandre:

Cause during the sacrament of confession , the priest is a direct representative of Christ our lord

Quote the bible and forget doctrine!
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Nobody: 4:49am On Sep 02, 2015
247notire:
To all u who say only God forgives, who said anything contrary? The priest tells u after a confession that your sins are forgiven, and by God of course, ur getting it twisted. Meanwhile humans can always intercede for one another, ots biblical. Also recall that a king can pardon his subject who shows contrition and even in heaven they are truly pardoned. Priesthood is also a form of divine royalty. See John 20:23. Even you and I have the power to tell ppl that they are forgiven of their sins. So we all share in that responsibility of God, as well as in being co - creators. Shalom.


The priest tells you that your sins you sinned against God are forgiven..
No read what you wrote..
Nnaah Ee,
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Nobody: 4:50am On Sep 02, 2015
Philipschasis:
The priest intercedes on behalf of the people to God for forgiveness. Undeniable, only God forgives. Those of y'all with a different opinion should please stop going to Pastors/Bishops for prayers as it's the same, only God answers prayers.

The bible said Jesus Is our intercessor.
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by italo: 4:51am On Sep 02, 2015
Optimall:



That is ee. Sometimes I wonder if there are people inside that church....

Yes there are people there.

And they have read John 20:23:

Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.

Do you read that in your church shop?

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Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Nobody: 4:53am On Sep 02, 2015
Stephansmily:
Hey, y'all asking why we confess to a priest shud check -James 5:16 “Therefore, confess your sins to one another,
and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The
effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much.”


Oya ask your priest to confess to you
Abi is he not a human being that sins?
Remember ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God!
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Nobody: 4:55am On Sep 02, 2015
italo:


Yes there are people there.

And they have read John 20:23:

Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.

Do you read that in your church shop?

No whose sins WHO have forgiven??
The president of VATican? Oops his HOLINESS?

Hahaha!
Politics inside church Jehovah abhor that like Sugar!
Or is it RAcism?
No exactly what makes Roman Catholic Holy?
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by italo: 5:01am On Sep 02, 2015
Optimall:


No whose sins WHO have forgiven??
The president of VATican? Oops his HOLINESS?

Hahaha!
Politics inside church Jehovah abhor that like Sugar!
Or is it RAcism?
No exactly what makes Roman Catholic Holy?

How has the topic changed to racism or holiness? This is the mark of someone uninterested in truth or learning.

You said only Jesus can forgive, not priests.

Jesus doesn't think so. Read again:

John 20:23:

Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.

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Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Nobody: 5:05am On Sep 02, 2015
italo:


How has the topic changed to racism or holiness? This is the mark of someone uninterested in truth or learning.

You said only Jesus can forgive, not priests.

Jesus doesn't think so. Read again:

John 20:23:

Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.



How do you forgive someone you hate their skin color or even think of forgiving them or listening to them?
This is what I'm saying.
Jesus cares about humans!

Jesus is our intercessor.
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by italo: 5:09am On Sep 02, 2015
Optimall:



Oya ask your priest to confess to you
Abi is he not a human being that sins?
Remember ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God!

Priests go to confession too.

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Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by italo: 5:12am On Sep 02, 2015
Optimall:




How do you forgive someone you hate their skin color or even think of forgiving them or listening to them?
This is what I'm saying.
Jesus cares about humans!

Jesus is our intercessor.

Direct your fight to Jesus the intercessor then.

He's the one who told his apostles that they could forgive or retain sins.
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Nobody: 5:18am On Sep 02, 2015
italo:


Priests go to confession too.


Really? shocked
Does pope go too? undecided
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by italo: 5:24am On Sep 02, 2015
Optimall:



Really? shocked
Does pope go too? undecided

Yes.
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Nobody: 5:29am On Sep 02, 2015
italo:


Yes.

To you? lipsrsealed
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by eepa: 5:49am On Sep 02, 2015
James 5:14–16 (RSVCE) 14 Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord; 15 and the prayer of faith will save the sick man, and the Lord will raise him up; and if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. 16 Therefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man has great power in its effects. James here gives us a glimpse into sacramental confession being practiced in the first century. In verse 14 he says to call the “elders” for anyone who is sick. The Greek word for “Elder” is πρεσβύτερος (presbyteros) which is literally translated as “elder”, however, it is the Greek word where we get the English word for Priest. So its not just an “older” Christian, but rather a Priest, an ordained minister assisting the Bishop who is called to provide the sacraments to the sick person in this passage. Notice that James says to confess your sins to “one another” in verse 16. Question, who is the “one another” James had in mind here? Is it your best friend? Is it some stranger? Perhaps its your spouse he’s referring to? Well, what’s the context of the passage? It is the Elder of course… so we are to confess our sins to the πρεσβύτερος, the Priest that we are supposed to call when we are either sick or have sins to confess! Notice too what James didn’t say, namely to confess your sins directly to God. Rather, the witness of scripture, and salvation history, is to confess our sins to the Priest, the father, whom God has breathed upon with His life, and sent to bring us His reconciliation.

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Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by italo: 6:09am On Sep 02, 2015
Optimall:


To you? lipsrsealed

To other priests.

There's something you're avoiding:

Have you now seen that, though it is God alone who forgives sins, he allowed men to do it on his behalf (thereby believing John20:23)?

Or do you still maintain that men cannot do that (thereby disbelieving John20:23)?

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Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by italo: 6:16am On Sep 02, 2015
eepa:
James 5:14–16 (RSVCE)
14 Is any among you sick? Let him call for the
elders of the church, and let them pray over him,
anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord; 15
and the prayer of faith will save the sick man, and
the Lord will raise him up; and if he has
committed sins, he will be forgiven. 16 Therefore
confess your sins to one another, and pray for one
another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a
righteous man has great power in its effects.
James here gives us a glimpse into sacramental
confession being practiced in the first century. In
verse 14 he says to call the “elders” for anyone
who is sick. The Greek word for “Elder” is
πρεσβύτερος (presbyteros) which is literally
translated as “elder”, however, it is the Greek word
where we get the English word for Priest. So its
not just an “older” Christian, but rather a Priest, an
ordained minister assisting the Bishop who is
called to provide the sacraments to the sick person
in this passage. Notice that James says to confess
your sins to “one another” in verse 16. Question,
who is the “one another” James had in mind here?
Is it your best friend? Is it some stranger? Perhaps
its your spouse he’s referring to? Well, what’s the
context of the passage? It is the Elder of course…
so we are to confess our sins to the πρεσβύτερος,
the Priest that we are supposed to call when we
are either sick or have sins to confess! Notice too
what James didn’t say, namely to confess your
sins directly to God. Rather, the witness of
scripture, and salvation history, is to confess our
sins to the Priest, the father, whom God has
breathed upon with His life, and sent to bring us
His reconciliation.

Spot on!

The one who has ears will hear what the Spirit is saying.

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Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by ceaz4r(m): 6:25am On Sep 02, 2015
missKiffy:
Catholics why do you seek forgiveness from a priest instead of from God

I don't know the Bible many of you read these days in these New Generation Churches that forget to preach about true Christian life, but spend precious time discussing how Catholics worship. Whoever told you your Church is even doing the right thing!
Have you ever come across this in the Bible you read:

...
13 When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?”

14 They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”

15“But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”

16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”

17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. 18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
20 Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah.


Source::
New International Version (NIV)
http://biblehub.com/niv/matthew/16.htm

So, the Catholic Pope and Priests were actually given powers to forgive sins. See verses 18 & 19.

Was GOD naïve to have handed the Church over to Simon Peter ?!
Simon Peter (St Peter) became the first Pope of the Church, which of course is the Catholic Church before the Anglican Church sprung up and ever since other Churches who claim to see the Light clearer have been springing up!

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Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by walozanga(m): 6:30am On Sep 02, 2015
THEIR FORGIVENESS IS WITH GOD NOT THE PRIESTS
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Stephansmily(f): 6:59am On Sep 02, 2015
Optimall:


Oya ask your priest to confess to you Abi is he not a human being that sins? Remember ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God!

Of course, he confesses too
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Lumenxty(m): 7:34am On Sep 02, 2015
kamez:
I am the way the truth and the life. no one comet unto the father except thru me. that's what Jesus said.


God alone can forgive all sins.. confess ur sins directly to him thru Jesus no priest can absolve ur sins. only Jesus can..

oya catholics in the house, sentence me to death.
Christ commissioned d appostles to 4giv sins in john's gosple: d priests r d direct descendants of d appostles n by implication keep performing dat appostolic duty as directed by Christ himself.
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Nobody: 7:45am On Sep 02, 2015
funkybully:
[s][/s]

Ignorance is a disease!
Go and read your Bible very well and prayerfully. Read Daniel 2, Daniel 7, Revelation 13.
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Nobody: 7:49am On Sep 02, 2015
Lumenxty:
Christ commissioned d appostles to 4giv sins in john's gosple: d priests r d direct descendants of d appostles n by implication keep performing dat appostolic duty as directed by Christ himself.

Satan and his deceits. Prove the Bible reference for such. Also, remember Satan quoted a portion of the Bible to Christ when tempting Him. Be wise, in the things you say, Satan and his works will Never prevail in the Name of the LORD, Most High. Amen.
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by thorpido(m): 8:11am On Sep 02, 2015
Stephansmily:



The priest is who we choose as the other part of 'one another'. Correction, the priest never forgives sin, he only prays on behalf of the sinner(prayer of intercession)
Why can't you just talk to God directly?He will hear you without needing a priest.
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Nobody: 8:15am On Sep 02, 2015
Dannyandre:

U re a big fool
What bout ur useless pastors that go about deceiving innocent citizens of dere hard earned money and using it to open universities and yet dey still charge a lot as deir skul fees
ignore dat foooooooool his father is a Pastor and in his father's church they offer 6 times on Sundays and 3 times ordinary days
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by ask4bk(m): 8:34am On Sep 02, 2015
azzima:
Soooo Pope Francis is GOD now abi??Catholism is something else. The same person whose sin might be worse than an abortionist is GRANTING AN OK for forgiveness. And I bet some fool is so excited because the Oga has given the order. Mumus! !!

Lol. No matter what u say, never forget that Catholism was the only Christian identity for 1500 years until protestants erupted with the believes that any man can speak to God freely and no need for priests or church sacraments and other anti-catholic faiths.

So r u saying that for 1500 years after Christ's death, there was no Christianity until only 500yrs ago? Lool. There's only one church, and it's the one handed from Christ to the Apostles and that remains only and I repeat, ONLY with the catholic church. But u still free to believe in what u want oh.

The teachings of the catholic church are difficult to agree. But it shows her ressemblance with Christ, coz his teachings were hard in the ears and eyes of the Jews, sotey dem all run comot (John 6 - the discourse on the bread of life)
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Nobody: 8:42am On Sep 02, 2015
Iyke1998:



In Matthew, chapter 9, verse 6, Jesus tells us that He was
given authority on earth to forgive sins. And then Scripture proceeds to tell us, in verse 8, that this authority was given to "men"...plural.

In John 20, verses 21-23, what is the first thing Jesus says to the gathered disciples on the night of His resurrection?
"Jesus said to them, 'Peace be with you. As the Father has
sent me, even so I send you.'" How did the Father send
Jesus? Well, we just saw in Matthew 9 that the Father sent
Jesus with the authority on earth to forgive sins.

Now, Jesus sends out His disciples as the Father has sent Him...so, what authority must Jesus be sending His disciples out with? The authority on earth to forgive sins.

And, just in case they didn't get it, verses 22-23 say this, "And when He had said this, He breathed on them, and said to them, 'Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.'"

Why would Jesus give the Apostles the power to forgive or
to retain sins if He wasn't expecting folks to confess their
sins to them? And how could they forgive or retain sins if no one was confessing their sins to them?

The Bible tells us to confess our sins to one another. It also tells us that God gave men the authority on Earth to forgive sins. Jesus sends out His disciples with the authority on earth to forgive sins. When Catholics confess our sins to a priest, we are simply following the plan laid down by Jesus Christ. He forgives sins through the priest...it is God's power, but He exercises that power through the ministry of the priest.

God bless you!!

Please are you a priest I wanted to be but I didn't make it
Re: Pope Francis To Allow Priests To Forgive Women Who Had Abortions by Nobody: 8:52am On Sep 02, 2015
tuoyoojo:


Ubong biko nor vex. When last did u open ur bible to read? Priest a mere mortal is now ur mediator. U nor get mouth to pray. Jesus and only jesus because of his blood dat was shed is the mediator btw God n man. Not mary, dead saints or any priest!
So priest don't have the power to forgive sins but your pastor have de power to pray for you

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