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Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by ba7man(m): 6:54am On Sep 03, 2015
ichidodo:
Witchunting at its most reprehensible... Ogar should sue that imbecilic dullardinio from Daura and his relative at the helm of DSS..
Witches should be rightfully hunted down, not left to fly around and wreck havoc. cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by enitiObanke(m): 6:54am On Sep 03, 2015
Abeg which one is 'newsofthepeople' again? I seriously doubt the credibility of these source.
Until I see this news item on either saharareporters.com or premiumtimesng.com I simply won't believe it
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by frankyychiji(f): 6:58am On Sep 03, 2015
This is a lie from the pit hell! Sack her for what? Over what offence? It had better remain a lie because President Buhari would have finished digging his grave for such witch-hunt! Buhari and his kisman Daura don't own Nigeria! It had better remain a lie!!
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by sammyj: 7:26am On Sep 03, 2015
Good for her!!!
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by emmalexabl(m): 7:44am On Sep 03, 2015
AND WHO THE HELL SAID HE ISN'T GMB ANYMORE BUT PMB ??
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by porka: 7:46am On Sep 03, 2015
[size=13pt]No big deal. Someone else will surely SACK the current ones after 4 years (or 8 years) too.

The woman should have naturally resign immediately the elections were over.

You can't expose a 'sinister' organization the way she did and still function effectively in that settings. [/size]

Her famous allegation against the APC then -

“We had provided security for election in Edo and at the end of that election permit me to say there was no bomb blast. We moved to Ondo and the Labour Party won in Ondo, there was bomb blast. We moved to Anambra and APGA won in Anambra, there was bomb blast. We moved to Ekiti, PDP won in Ekiti, there was bomb blast. We thank God that we were able to deploy appropriately. The results have come out and the APC has won and thank God there was no bomb blast.

We should thank God that since after the Osun State election there has been no bomb blast. Glory be to God.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-IlyOUvv9Y
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by dekdek: 7:47am On Sep 03, 2015
I doubt the authenticity of this report but if true then it will really be Good riddance to bad rubbish. That witch is a stain to the service.
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by ignis: 7:47am On Sep 03, 2015
Pathetic
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by eleko1: 8:00am On Sep 03, 2015
Dat lamorde own dey do press up.Wonda wot they do with all the exhibit'ed' yahoo Yahoo Money/SUV confiscate
Keneking:
Great decision...Mr Mbu is next ...thank me later grin
Ibrahim Lamorde is next
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by otr1(m): 9:13am On Sep 03, 2015
porka:
[size=13pt]No big deal. Someone else will surely SACK the current ones after 4 years (or 8 years) too.

The woman should have naturally resign immediately the elections were over.

You can't expose a 'sinister' organization the way she did and still function effectively in that settings. [/size]

Her famous allegation against the APC then -

“We had provided security for election in Edo and at the end of that election permit me to say there was no bomb blast. We moved to Ondo and the Labour Party won in Ondo, there was bomb blast. We moved to Anambra and APGA won in Anambra, there was bomb blast. We moved to Ekiti, PDP won in Ekiti, there was bomb blast. We thank God that we were able to deploy appropriately. The results have come out and the APC has won and thank God there was no bomb blast.

We should thank God that since after the Osun State election there has been no bomb blast. Glory be to God.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-IlyOUvv9Y
A reasonable person should discern from this statement that it's DSS that planted those bombs to make a point.
I've known her as a useless idiiot since the day of the Apo massacre- 3-4 years ago, I think.
That woman is a disgrace.
I doubt this news by the way, but all the same, she will be disgraced out of the service this year.
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by wordcat(m): 9:35am On Sep 03, 2015
eleko1:
cool I dnt rejoice @ her misfortune but thank God,the crazy woman is deleted from DSS service

She's not the Director of the Organization but a Spokesperson, her job then was to pass info with the approval of the authorities to the public.

So what makes u think that she's crazy?
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by omowolewa: 9:39am On Sep 03, 2015
Mray-Mary, wetin con happen?!
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by hinwazaka: 9:40am On Sep 03, 2015
jjlala:
Good news to start




let her go and meet her master GEJ to get her new appointment
Rebekkah Brooks of the infamous phone hacking scandal in the UK, was forced to step down from her job as CEO in 2011. Yesterday, she was rehired as the CEO of Rupert Murdoch's Newcorp. If this news piece is true, expect her comeback once this Vindictive, shenanigans government is ousted.
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by Gbawe: 9:59am On Sep 03, 2015
i will personally wait for confirmation of this from more sources. If true then I hail this development as absolutely the right thing to do. It is time we all begin putting partisanship and bias aside to see and support what is right. Others do it worldwide so why are we Nigerians different? Ogar was horribly and openly partisan/compromised in a position requiring the highest level of professionalism and political neutrality. Where do you Nigerians see this worldwide? i.e the spokesperson of a Nation's security service taking side shamelessly and openly with a political Party? If people put sentiments asides it will be obvious the likes of Ogar have no place in sensitive positions of public service in in a progressive Nigeria. Africa needs strong institutions and not strong men as Obama surmised.

The likes of Ogar, who are unprofessional and easily compromised, will never be the manpower that will allow the emergence of strong and independent institutions. Her open bias and utterances , like when she stated that each time the APC lost an election a spate of bombing followed, are simply disgraceful and unacceptably biased. When have you guys ever seen the spokesperson of the FBI or MI5 openly acting as a lackey of a political Party in the USA and UK respectively? Those who cannot see what matters and speak in support of Ogar do not mean well for Nigeria. We need to get rid of the Ogars and the Mbus to build professional, driven, motivated and independent security forces with the capacity to serve the public professionally always while refraining from serving the agenda of politicians and interest groups. That is the only way forward for Nigeria. It is as simple as that and I personally hope Ogar has indeed been sacked. She deserves it.
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by freshdude99(m): 10:03am On Sep 03, 2015
Very wrong move
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by greaterlove(m): 10:05am On Sep 03, 2015
owobokiri:
The daurra infestation heading the DSS at the moment will destroy this country with his blind vindictiveness. . Ms Ogar was just a SPOKESPERSON for the organisation. A mere IMAGE MAKER whose job was to defend the organisation, irrespective of the situation the organisation found herself. She explained policies, she didnt make them!! I can't understand why she is being hounded. .
It's a pity, Nigeria is back to 1983.

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Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by Gbawe: 10:14am On Sep 03, 2015
ba7man:
Beautiful move!!!!......... if true. undecided

I have this feeling it's going to be a lovely day.

Indeed. The woman is a disgrace. I don't understand how anyone can speak in her defence. Imagine a security supremo who convicts and assigns guilt against a political Party publicly without showing conclusive proof and in the absence of a conclusive court trial. That is the worst thing in the world and Nigeria is one of the few nations, if not the only one, this crap can happen in !!! This is the equivalent of the police publicly and unprofessionally announcing the guilt of a suspect when we all know the police are only allowed to investigate and arrest to then let the prosecution service prove guilt.

Any policeman/security official , especially a senior officer, who publicly prejudices a case/allegation of wrongdoing against anyone, in defiance of official prosecution that confirms guilt conclusively, would be sacked in any sane nation of the world. As simple as that. It is about time we stop the madness and aberrancy to begin doing things the right way in Nigeria. It is the only way forward.

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Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by Gbawe: 10:30am On Sep 03, 2015
hinwazaka:

Rebekkah Brooks of the infamous phone hacking scandal in the UK, was forced to step down from her job as CEO in 2011. Yesterday, she was rehired as the CEO of Rupert Murdoch's Newcorp. If this news piece is true, expect her comeback once this Vindictive, shenanigans government is ousted.

What "comeback" and what "vindictiveness"? Would you like it if you are convicted of a crime publicly, without trial, by a security official who hates you because of bias against your ethnic group or political affiliation? What would become of a Country full of such security officers? Let us learn to put sentiments aside for the sake of our nation if some of us indeed love her as we claim. Ogar deserves to be sacked. What she did is not done by others in her position anywhere else in the world.

Let me remind you that her antics, in case you have forgotten, means she is even getting off lightly. Ogar's open partisanship was very dangerous for Nigeria in a 'charged' period. In most sane nations of the world she may even be charged with endangering national security. Can you guys supporting Ogar not understand the simple concept of professional boundaries and how she is not allowed to play judge and jury publicly to the detriment of the peace and security of Nigeria? Ogar should have kept her mouth shut. She has no right or authority to say all she did and she surely should not have been so openly biased, i.e pro PDP, in a job that requires the highest level of professionalism and neutrality. She should be sacked.

http://abusidiqu.com/video-dss-spokesperson-marilyn-ogar-blames-apc-bombings-nigeria/

VIDEO: DSS Spokesperson, Marilyn Ogar Blames APC for the Bombings in Nigeria
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The spokesperson of the Department of State Services, DSS (alias SSS) Marilyn Ogar, has accused the opposition All Progressives Congress, APC, is responsible for the spate of bombings in the country.

She said this during an interview on Channels Television on Thursday.



According to Ms. Ogar, bombings always follows each time the APC had lost an election.

She said: “We had provided security for election in Edo and at the end of that election permit me to say there was no bomb blast. We moved to Ondo and the Labour Party won in Ondo, there was bomb blast. We moved to Anambra and APGA won in Anambra, there was bomb blast. We moved to Ekiti, PDP won in Ekiti, there was bomb blast. We thank God that we were able to deploy appropriately. The results have come out and the APC has won and thank God there was no bomb blast.”

Watch the video below:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-IlyOUvv9Y

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Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by Nichobabe(m): 11:04am On Sep 03, 2015
ichidodo:
Witchunting at its most reprehensible... Ogar should sue that imbecilic dullardinio from Daura and his relative at the helm of DSS..

If only her hands are clean. At times you are happier to just go without they asking you questions

Am just saying
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by hinwazaka: 11:12am On Sep 03, 2015
Gbawe:


What "comeback" and what "vindictiveness"? Would you like it if you are convicted of a crime publicly, without trial, by a security official who hates you because of bias against your ethnic group or political affiliation? What would become of a Country full of such security officers? Let us learn to put sentiments aside for the sake of our nation if some of us indeed love her as we claim. Ogar deserves to be sacked. What she did is not done by others in her position anywhere else in the world.

Let me remind you that her antics, in case you have forgotten, means she is even getting off lightly. Ogar's open partisanship was very dangerous for Nigeria in a 'charged' period. In most sane nations of the world she may even be charged with endangering national security. Can you guys supporting Ogar not understand the simple concept of professional boundaries and how she is not allowed to play judge and jury publicly to the detriment of the peace and security of Nigeria? Ogar should have kept her mouth shut. She has no right or authority to say all she did and she surely should not have been so openly biased, i.e pro PDP, in a job that requires the highest level of professionalism and neutrality. She should be sacked.

http://abusidiqu.com/video-dss-spokesperson-marilyn-ogar-blames-apc-bombings-nigeria/

She made a callous and inappropriate statement based on the information made available to her. How, does that justify the sort of public backlash that has been dished out to her. Did the aggrieved party sue her for libel and slander, No. In 2001/2002, the head of the CIA, told the then President of the US, that the Saddam Hussein government was in possession of weapons of mass destruction. The US invaded Iraq on that knowledge, and after the dust had settled, found this assertion to be false. This things happen everywhere, so Ogar's gaffe wasn't the first. And besides, she was not a judge or jury, but only made her opinions known to people. The aggrieved have started theirs too, no one is talking.
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by Gbawe: 11:49am On Sep 03, 2015
hinwazaka:

She made a callous and inappropriate statement based on the information made available to her. How, does that justify the sort of public backlash that has been dished out to her. Did the aggrieved party sue her for libel and slander, No. In 2001/2002, the head of the CIA, told the then President of the US, that the Saddam Hussein government was in possession of weapons of mass destruction. The US invaded Iraq on that knowledge, and after the dust had settled, found this assertion to be false. This things happen everywhere, so Ogar's gaffe wasn't the first. And besides, she was not a judge or jury, but only made her opinions known to people. The aggrieved have started theirs too, no one is talking.

That is a totally irrelevant example. Iraq is a historical enemy of the USA. Both nations are hostile towards each other and may even use fabricated 'evidence' and propaganda in an effort to gain the upper hand. If you think about it then you will see that lack of peace in Iraq is not a real bother to the USA. Likewise Iraqis will not lose sleep if the USA is troubled. The best contextual example is to imagine a US and Iraq security supremo working against the internal peace and security of their own nation because of political/ethnic bias.

Give me an example of a professional security agency acting in a way that threatens the internal peace and security of its own home nation. That is what Ogar did. She did not make a "callous and inappropriate statement". She went beyond the brief and authority of her office. Don't you get this simple concept? What would the world be like if policemen who should only investigate and arrest criminals begin undermining the justice system by going public to announce the guilt of those who have not been tried in a competent court of law? Surely this is a simple enough concept for you to understand and defend?

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Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by Gbawe: 11:58am On Sep 03, 2015
Personally I hope this is true as this will confirm we have a responsible and disciplined Government in place that understand the fundamental concept that dereliction of duty and unprofessional conduct must be punished. Nigeria badly needs a deterrent system where people understand that there will be consequences for wrongdoing.

Ogar did what she did because she never imagined the PDP would be out of power. She never thought she would pay for her unprofessional and divisive conduct which was highly unbecoming of her sensitive position. Never should Nigeria witness the likes of Ogar in sensitive public office again. We need strong institutions headed by men and women who understand that they are employed, first and foremost, to serve Nigerians and not politicians.
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by joeyfire(m): 12:09pm On Sep 03, 2015
Buhari as expected is running a vindictive, petty and embarrassingly ignorant administration.

Granted Ogar was flippant and outspoken under the GEJ administration but that is NOT a reason to fire her. Did she flout the terms of her employment with DSS? If yes fire her but if it's just on account of politics that Buhari's cousin heading DSS, kicked her out then its hypocrisy and idleness clearly affecting this government.

Lets not even talk about the sinister possibilities that this implies. Shame
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by Gbawe: 12:24pm On Sep 03, 2015
joeyfire:
Buhari as expected is running a vindictive, petty and embarrassingly ignorant administration.

Granted Ogar was flippant and outspoken under the GEJ administration but that is NOT a reason to fire her. Did she flout the terms of her employment with DSS? If yes fire her but if it's just on account of politics that Buhari's cousin heading DSS, kicked her out then its hypocrisy and idleness clearly affecting this government.

Lets not even talk about the sinister possibilities that this implies. Shame

I don't understand why Nigerians, more than others, are so incapable of distinguishing right from wrong. Don't you understand that Ogar did what she should never have done? The lines became horribly blurred under GEJ and many lost their heads but the point is that a sane Government is here now and those who abused their office must pay. This is why Nazi war criminals are still being prosecuted till today and even if they are 90 years old. There has to be consequences for wrongdoing and abuse of office. Don't you get this simple concept?

Ogar had no right or authority to go public and blame a political party for terrorist bombing at a time the nation was very troubled and grappling with a situation that could tilt into mass unrest and killings at any time. What she did was highly unprofessional, dangerous and divisive. Our nation already had a dangerous North-South schism because of Boko Haram terrorism. Security officers should not be making such worse with sentimental and unguarded utterances. We can do such on Nairaland but not Ogar. She gets paid to be professional, efficient and neutral. Her job duty does not involve going public to heat up the polity and prejudice opinion against a political Party when she has wild conjectures as her main claim !!! Do you not even see the fundamental wrong of this? I.e the fact that top level security officials worldwide only announce facts publicly and not conjectures and unproven allegations? She deserves the sack for that. How can you not see this?

How will the world perceive and interact with the Buhari government if they see him persevering with the likes of Ogar who totally defeat the concept of strong, independent and neutral institutions? Is it not obvious, from her openly biased utterances, that Ogar would have no problem unjustly framing an innocent APC politician for a bombing when her job demands that she keeps an open mind and leave the official proclamation of guilt to the law Courts? I really don't understand how some Nigerians think and talk.

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Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by hinwazaka: 12:52pm On Sep 03, 2015
Gbawe:


That is a totally irrelevant example. Iraq is a historical enemy of the USA. Both nations are hostile towards each other and may even use fabricated 'evidence' and propaganda in an effort to gain the upper hand. If you think about it then you will see that lack of peace in Iraq is not a real bother to the USA. Likewise Iraqis will not lose sleep if the USA is troubled. The best contextual example is to imagine a US and Iraq security supremo working against the internal peace and security of their own nation because of political/ethnic bias.

Give me an example of a professional security agency acting in a way that threatens the internal peace and security of its own home nation. That is what Ogar did. She did not make a "callous and inappropriate statement". She went beyond the brief and authority of her office. Don't you get this simple concept? What would the world be like if policemen who should only investigate and arrest criminals begin undermining the justice system by going public to announce the guilt of those who have not been tried in a competent court of law? Surely this is a simple enough concept for you to understand and defend?
She didn't undermine the judicial process. She only indirectly accused them of questionable security crimes against the state. Was anyone brought up on charges in relation to her statements, NO. And besides what is the difference between her unguided statements and the day to day unguarded allegations being made by the Edo state Govenor, the DSS and the EFCC.
Also your take on the IRAQI gaffe by the CIA, is of more paramount importance than that made of agencies within a state. Just browse on it, and you will understand my angle.
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by joeyfire(m): 1:14pm On Sep 03, 2015
Gbawe:


I don't understand why Nigerians, more than others, are so incapable of distinguishing right from wrong. Don't you understand that Ogar did what she should never have done? The lines became horribly blurred under GEJ and many lost their heads but the point is that a sane Government is here now and those who abused their office must pay. This is why Nazi war criminals are still being prosecuted till today and even if they are 90 years old. There has to be consequences for wrongdoing and abuse of office. Don't you get this simple concept?

Ogar had no right or authority to go public and blame a political party for terrorist bombing at a time the nation was very troubled and grappling with a situation that could tilt into mass unrest and killings at any time. What she did was highly unprofessional, dangerous and divisive. Our nation already had a dangerous North-South schism because of Boko Haram terrorism. Security officers should not be making such worse with sentimental and unguarded utterances. We can do such on Nairaland but not Ogar. She gets paid to be professional, efficient and neutral. Her job duty does not involve going public to heat up the polity and prejudice opinion against a political Party when she has wild conjectures as her main claim !!! Do you not even see the fundamental wrong of this? I.e the fact that top level security officials worldwide only announce facts publicly and not conjectures and unproven allegations? She deserves the sack for that. How can you not see this?

How will the world perceive and interact with the Buhari government if they see him persevering with the likes of Ogar who totally defeat the concept of strong, independent and neutral institutions? Is it not obvious, from her openly biased utterances, that Ogar would have no problem unjustly framing an innocent APC politician for a bombing when her job demands that she keeps an open mind and leave the official proclamation of guilt to the law Courts? I really don't understand how some Nigerians think and talk.

1. I don't get your point. How has Ogar flouted the rules of the DSS that employed her and why exactly was she fired. There is nothing stated so we are left to deduce its childish politics by buhari and his lame kitchen cabinet. Your comparing her to 90 year old nazis is neither here nor there.

2. This APC administration has at its core, some of the most dishonest ppl on this earth so "conjectures" shouldn't be new to it. After all we were exposed to some of the most vile propaganda pre-elections but how many ppl were chased after in such petty fashion.

3. Hahaha you are worried about what the west thinks about buhari having Marilyn Ogar still employed by the DSS but there is nothing wrong with Buhari appointing Hon. Kawu to his kitchen cabinet. Kawu the world saw throwing blows in the NASS not too long ago.

Such legendary hypocrisy by buhari. Very pitiful state of things. I am waiting for the reason she was fired.
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by Gbawe: 1:29pm On Sep 03, 2015
joeyfire:


1. I don't get your point. How has Ogar flouted the rules of the DSS that employed her and why exactly was she fired. There is nothing stated so we are left to deduce its childish politics by buhari and his lame kitchen cabinet. Your comparing her to 90 year old nazis is neither here nor there.

2. This APC administration has at its core, some of the most dishonest ppl on this earth so "conjectures" shouldn't be new to it. After all we were exposed to some of the most vile propaganda pre-elections but how many ppl were chased after in such petty fashion.

3. Hahaha you are worried about what the west thinks about buhari having Marilyn Ogar still employed by the DSS but there is nothing wrong with Buhari appointing Hon. Kawu to his kitchen cabinet. Kawu the world saw throwing blows in the NASS not too long ago.

Such legendary hypocrisy by buhari. Very pitiful state of things. I am waiting for the reason she was fired.

Look, let us cut a long story short. Ogar, as a security officer on the investigative end, is duty-bound to present all evidence she has to the right authority to aid the successful prosecution of those involved in terrorist act against Nigerian. She does not work for the prosecution service and is not a Judge.

She is not a politician either and has no authority to publicly accuse a political party of something as serious as terrorism without proof or court conviction. I really don't see how this is hard for you to understand. If you are employed as a janitor in a restaurant why on earth would you try and take over cooking duties when the Chef is present and able? Why don't you do your job and let the chef do his job?

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Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by joeyfire(m): 1:45pm On Sep 03, 2015
Gbawe:


Look, let us cut a long story short. Ogar, as a security officer on the investigative end, is duty-bound to present all evidence she has to the right authority to aid the successful prosecution of those involved in terrorist act against Nigerian. She does not work for the prosecution service and is not a Judge.

She is not a politician either and has no authority to publicly accuse a political party of something as serious as terrorism without proof or court conviction. I really don't see how this is hard for you to understand. If you are employed as a janitor in a restaurant why on earth would you try and take over cooking duties when the Chef is present and able? Why don't you do your job and let the chef do his job?

Ogar displayed crass bias with her choice of words and disposition I don't disagree. I am against unilateral, vindictive actions like sacking her on account of a grudge. Sack her for constructive reasons. Nigeria can't afford another Abacha because of "change".
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by joeyfire(m): 1:47pm On Sep 03, 2015
Gbawe - don't mix things up o. She was the public relations person not an investigator like u mentioned. Her job was to communicate on behalf the DSS
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by segebobo: 3:06pm On Sep 03, 2015
chukwudi44:


Tell me something!!! Is it this useless Daura who failed all his exams and who has only been good at hounding Akwaibom and Rivers INEC and election tribunal members that has been professional?

To ogar I think it is better she leaves now before she is assasinated

She was too partisan during d previous admin. If Daura is toeing the same line, then he might face the same fate as Ogar when his time comes
Re: DSS Sacks Ogar by Gbawe: 5:01pm On Sep 03, 2015
joeyfire:
Gbawe - don't mix things up o. She was the public relations person not an investigator like u mentioned. Her job was to communicate on behalf the DSS

I know bro but she made herself judge and jury by declaring conclusively that the APC was behind bombings in Nigeria.

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