abbey621:


Good for you but I doubt if your pay would make my eyes water. I just completed my second Masters in the USA, I work for a fortune 50 company(State Farm), just got my citizenship this year, make over 70,000 dollars after taxes and I have a 780 credit score, so please spare me the rhetoric! The question I asked was not about your specific situation but in general. Would you rather be poor in America or rich in 9ja? If 9ja was so terrible, you would be inclined to choose the first option wouldn't you?

Good for you too. But since the question was directed at me, i answered as it pertained. The only way i can imagine anyone being poor in america is if the said individual is an illegal immigrant or an akata. With that status there is no hope for you. But wait a minute, you work for a fortune 500 and make all that income and you still stress on moving to Nigeria. See why i am confounded? You are in an environment which is conducive enough to achieve whatever dreams you desire, a place where you have adequate security, a place where all amenities are functioning and you want to trade it for a lawless country where nothing works and the future is uncertain. I must be the crazy one. Yes, i am definitely insane. There is no other explanation.

New zealand, i hear is awesome over there

Kyri:
Niger pursues a moderate foreign policy and maintains friendly relations with the West and the Islamic world as well as nonaligned countries

How did u know all that?u reside there?

cramjones:


Don't be foolish and complain like a baby. Did anyone force you to go to canada? You don't want to pay taxes and expect Nigeria to be like Canada? Did anyone chain you in Canada? You had better shut your trap and take the next flight back to Nigeria...or are you a slave with chains that can't leave? Nonesense!

This guy quoted above is the definition of a frustrated being. A sane person opened a thread while another sane fellow decided to contribute, but this guy quoted above decided to use that to spit out his frustration on a sane person with choice. Do you read what you write before you post. Did anyone ask for your opinion? How on earth did you pick just taxes in everything written. Because the Internet is a faceless platform does not give you any right to spew garbage. Smh for a mind like yours. Next time please keep your opinion to yourself and let it rot inside your frustrated mind. I chose to comment not to seek your foolish opinion.

pansophist:
I will prefer some exotic countries in South America or Africa. Western life don tired me jare. In a preferential order, I'll go with Brazil, Bahamas, South Africa, Panama.

same here, man is tired of this cold weather, i wouldn't mind living in cuba also

Bollinger:


Good for you too. But since the question was directed at me, i answered as it pertained. The only way i can imagine anyone being poor in america is if the said individual is an illegal immigrant or an akata. With that status there is no hope for you. But wait a minute, you work for a fortune 500 and make all that income and you still stress on moving to Nigeria. See why i am confounded? You are in an environment which is conducive enough to achieve whatever dreams you desire, a place where you have adequate security, a place where all amenities are functioning and you want to trade it for a lawless country where nothing works and the future is uncertain. I must be the crazy one. Yes, i am definitely insane. There is no other explanation.

Yes America is great until you realize no matter how much you want to believe that you are one of them you are not cos there's really no place like home. Yes I make a lot of money but in reality it is chicken change compared to what I could be making in 9ja as an entrepreneur. You mentioned that all amenities are working but you forgot that it's not free. Maybe it's the fact that I'm an Aries but I just don't like when a system is designed to take advantage of people; social security is a scam, insurance is mostly rip-off and seriously 7k just to give birth, ridiculous! This is exactly what the American system was designed for, you make money but spend it all in the US. Over 80% of Americans can't boast of 10k in savings, that's just a measly 2 million naira and yet people buy large houses and so on. The smart people in America are those able to take advantage of the system and invest wisely, those able to use the tools around them wisely, this is where being an African has its advantages. God willing, in the next 10 years I plan on investing heavily on real estate in Nigeria, beefing up my savings and finally saying good riddance to corporate America(Monday to Friday 8AM to 6PM is stressing me out). In Nigeria I can truly live like a king and with continuous income, I can enjoy it for years to come, I can afford a maid or two, a gateman and a driver and it all won't cost me more than what I'm paying for insurance per month. In 9ja, I can own my own company and truly impact people's lives. I can be all that I can be and more; in America I'm just a puppet, making money but not really living! Salah is coming up yet the Mofos expect me to manage my department regardless. I don't know about you but life is too short to be limited, America is just a stepping stone for me to get to my final destination, it will and cannot ever be called home!

Biafra

Atmmachine:
I live in America but i must confess, there's no place like Nigeria.
If i can get a job that pays like the one i have in America, I will be in Nigeria the next day.

Nigeria is the best country on earth.
People who lives in Nigeria may not understand this till you move to that country you think is the best.

You are very correct!

Adim wat have I done y are deleting my coomments

amzee:

We went to the capital city Niamey.It was beautiful but not as Abuja.They have steady electricity and their food is cheap.Am thinking of moving over there to further my football career.

How I wish to be with you @ Niamey.

you better stop this rubbish cos everybody is entitled to his or her own opinion, is either u allow me say my mind or I delete my account , but I wont stop till I make sure every one have deleted theirs , you allow people to say a lot of shit here but wen I give reasonable opinions you delete it. this is y this country is still suffering cos of people like you ( Adim be warned) you will never imagine d length I can go 4 this

Me2You225:
Adim wat have I done y are deleting my coomments

Saudi Arabia

I like UAE.

pansophist:
I will prefer some exotic countries in South America or Africa. Western life don tired me jare. In a preferential order, I'll go with Brazil, Bahamas, South Africa, Panama.

'll love grab a latin cutie, my fantasy. So my destination for that is holidays in brazil/colombia, love their babes. Then germany as place of residence

Spain...I love Madrid. Fabulous City!!

milychocs:


There is an Igbo gospel song that haunted my childhood (we had a relative who was a Catholic charismatic "living with us and tormenting me with this song when my parents would be away )

The song has something like, "aguu agaghi agum oo, n'enuigweeee...etc"
Meaning " I would never be hungry in paradise"

To me it meant no food...
I was haunted by the fact that I would just float in heaven, singing hymns, in white apparel! Earthly living felt like a better bargain ..I mean, no ice cream, no chocolate, no rice, no plantain, nothing! Who does that

Well I sincerely hope that is not a true picture!!! ...or I would haaate! Lol

I still hate that song...it is outdated now though...so it is not a song one would hear all the time thankfully

You seriously should consider writing as a career. Your piece is short but the best I've ever seen on Nairaland. Jeez, you are an amazing writer.

Arab tinz

Jarus:
I like UAE.

dejt4u:
In no particular order, city of the sun and kuvuki land...

In order for me to chase lion into caves, to play wit springbuks and most importantly, to play gwarragwarra

Bobo yii, u sure say you dey alright?

Atmmachine:
I live in America but i must confess, there's no place like Nigeria.
If i can get a job that pays like the one i have in America, I will be in Nigeria the next day.

Nigeria is the best country on earth.
People who lives in Nigeria may not understand this till you move to that country you think is the best.

If you think Nigeria is the best country on earth, then why couldn't you find a job in Nigeria that can pay you as the one you have in USA? All truth be told; Nigeria is nothing close to the best country on earth, it's in fact among the worst places on earth. I leave in Chicago and visit Nigeria twice every year so I know what I'm talking about. You that is blessed to be in the USA should be glad you have that opportunity. Nigeria is a mess; that's the fact. We should not lie to our selves because reality is no longer black and white, reality is now coloured.

Please don't take this the wrong way. Note that this is not an insult, because I respect your opinion very well.

Jackter101:


This guy quoted above is the definition of a frustrated being. A sane person opened a thread while another sane fellow decided to contribute, but this guy quoted above decided to use that to spit out his frustration on a sane person with choice. Do you read what you write before you post. Did anyone ask for your opinion? How on earth did you pick just taxes in everything written. Because the Internet is a faceless platform does not give you any right to spew garbage. Smh for a mind like yours. Next time please keep your opinion to yourself and let it rot inside your frustrated mind. I chose to comment not to seek your foolish opinion.

Taxes
Oh well because of the welfare system
Single mama
Single mama will bankrupt Canada if changes are not made

[quote author=chukxie post=38202440] Australia Canada New Zealand [wats so special abt Australia]

ZUBY77:
Having traveled to almost every corner of the world, i will chose different countries for different purposes..

For business, i go with China any day.

For pleasure, give me Bahamas and Brazil.

For Church activities, corruption, lies, double-dating, hypocrisy and cheating, give it to Nigeria. What else do they know how to do?

U said it best about Nigeria
I am not a big fan of Bahamas-- I like St Kitts and St Lucas better
Bahamas is like any other major city to me
St Kitts and St Lucas give me country life slow

abbey621:


Judging from the rubbish you posted above, it is clear you know nothing about Economics and certainly nothing about public view, especially that of the American public. Majority of Americans would like more freedom, lesser government. You talk about property value as if slaughtering a goat once in a while is going to crash the market, I can name 3 things that would cause a decrease in property value faster than livestock processing.

1: Gang activities
2: Poor schools
3: Pawn shops and convenience stores

Now to your final point, in my statement did I mention I hate America? Or did you just conclude based on your own upside down thinking? America remains one of the best place in the world to make money but it is far from a paradise. As an African man, 9ja looks more like a paradise than America based on the level of freedom and resources at one's disposal. As long as there's an abundance of money, there's no place like 9ja!

Visa lottery winner JJC, sit your punk a$$ down.

Go back to your village and slaughter animals there in public view.

You're a dredge of society if you reside in hoods with gang activities, pawn shops and poor schools. Let me guess you live in one of the white flight forgotten barios in Hotlanta and Hoeston?

If you ever take your dumb a$$ to SoCal call me and let me show you where successful Nigerians live in.

Dimwit half idigit.

Fulba:


If you think Nigeria is the best country on earth, then why couldn't you find a job in Nigeria that can pay you as the one you have in USA? All truth be told; Nigeria is nothing close to the best country on earth, it's in fact among the worst places on earth. I leave in Chicago and visit Nigeria twice every year so I know what I'm talking about. You that is blessed to be in the USA should be glad you have that opportunity. Nigeria is a mess; that's the fact. We should not lie to our selves because reality is no longer black and white, reality is now coloured.

Please don't take this the wrong way. Note that this is not an insult, because I respect your opinion very well.

Thanks for posting this.

The ungrateful dimwits can always ship their dumbasses back to Nigeria and stop fracking complaining.

It's as if they didn't sell their families entire holding to get to the USA and then they start whining like beyotches.

abbey621:


Tolerating them should be a choice and not forced upon you as it is done here in the US! It's not bigotry to disagree with someone's lifestyle! It's not bigotry to choose not to associate with those who cause conflict between you and your God! Tolerating them should be a choice but unfortunately everywhere we turn here in the A, an executive or top level official is either a lesbian or gay!

Then why in the name of God are you in the USA? We're a tolerant society, I have many friends who are alternative lifestyle folks and they are the most compassionate people I know.

They require neither your sympathy not accrotance.

I'm outta this thread, I'm allergic to brain dead bots.

abbey621:


Yes America is great until you realize no matter how much you want to believe that you are one of them you are not cos there's really no place like home. Yes I make a lot of money but in reality it is chicken change compared to what I could be making in 9ja as an entrepreneur. You mentioned that all amenities are working but you forgot that it's not free. Maybe it's the fact that I'm an Aries but I just don't like when a system is designed to take advantage of people; social security is a scam, insurance is mostly rip-off and seriously 7k just to give birth, ridiculous! This is exactly what the American system was designed for, you make money but spend it all in the US. Over 80% of Americans can't boast of 10k in savings, that's just a measly 2 million naira and yet people buy large houses and so on. The smart people in America are those able to take advantage of the system and invest wisely, those able to use the tools around them wisely, this is where being an African has its advantages. God willing, in the next 10 years I plan on investing heavily on real estate in Nigeria, beefing up my savings and finally saying good riddance to corporate America(Monday to Friday 8AM to 6PM is stressing me out). In Nigeria I can truly live like a king and with continuous income, I can enjoy it for years to come, I can afford a maid or two, a gateman and a driver and it all won't cost me more than what I'm paying for insurance per month. In 9ja, I can own my own company and truly impact people's lives. I can be all that I can be and more; in America I'm just a puppet, making money but not really living! Salah is coming up yet the Mofos expect me to manage my department regardless. I don't know about you but life is too short to be limited, America is just a stepping stone for me to get to my final destination, it will and cannot ever be called home!

You need not look further than the front page of NL. Have you read some of the stup.id shiit happening in the country today. Things that normal people should and must not endure but it's absolutely normal to them. Don't get me wrong every country's got it's own issues but come on. Like i said, i am thoroughly confused as to why a person who has lived in an enlightened society would want to go back to the stone age. The only reason i would consider is the usual Nigerian mentality. It is a very dangerous mentality. Well good luck bro. From what i have gathered from you post, you want to be a king surrounded by slaves. You need to feel like an oppressor. Well you are in luck; there are a lot of oppressed Nigerians to take advantage of. You are on the right track. As for me, i want to live a normal, safe and simple life with a somewhat predictable future for me and my family. Yes, i may pay a lot for health insurance, but at least i have QUALITY healthcare which is more than i can say for ninety percent of Nigerians. Yes i pay for car insurance, but at least when i get in an accident with another vehicle i don't get in a fist fight or a shouting match with the other occupant because i know my car will be fixed to factory specifications. Yes i pay tax, but at least i know my taxes are being used to make my life bearable. I can call the police and in ten minutes they are my residence ready for action. I have 365 days of power supply, regular gas and water, no interruptions. Yes, i am not an oppressor in the U.S but thank God; I am living a very, very, very, very good life. If i decide to step it up a notch, the enabling environment for me to do so is available. God help the Nigerian mentality.

EgunMogaji:


Visa lottery winner JJC, sit your punk a$$ down.

Go back to your village and slaughter animals there in public view.

You're a dredge of society if you reside in hoods with gang activities, pawn shops and poor schools. Let me guess you live in one of the white flight forgotten barios in Hotlanta and Hoeston?

If you ever take your dumb a$$ to SoCal call me and let me show you where successful Nigerians live in.

Dimwit half idigit.

Oya clap for yourself, in your eyes you've actually said something reasonable . It's people like you with nothing that usually make the loudest noise, I stay in a $250,000 house in a nice neighborhood but it doesn't mean I'm not aware of good, hard working people who live in poor communities due to the hard economy so your premise of people like that being a dredge to society is not only whack but moronic! You stay in Southern California and you are shouting, your state is in a deep mess, it's broke and suffering from drastic drought so if I were you I wouldn't brag too much . Finally, you called me a visa lottery winner JJC, why would I play visa lottery when both my parents have been U.S citizens for over 20 years, my people perish for lack of wisdom, get sense my broad, get sense!

EgunMogaji:


Then why in the name of God are you in the USA? We're a tolerant society, I have many friends who are alternative lifestyle folks and they are the most compassionate people I know.

They require neither your sympathy not accrotance.

I'm outta this thread, I'm allergic to brain dead bots.

You call the US a tolerant society You're more daft than the average American! A country where majority of the society believes all Muslims are terrorists, a country where racism still exists deep within the confines of every society and last but not least a country trying to force gay rights on every developing country out there including Nigeria. No, the U.S is not tolerant, the people are highly intolerant. The recent issue with Ebola taught me so much, majority of Americans shouting close the borders, send the Africans back to their country, yea very tolerant

Bollinger:


You need not look further than the front page of NL. Have you read some of the stup.id shiit happening in the country today. Things that normal people should and must not endure but it's absolutely normal to them. Don't get me wrong every country's got it's own issues but come on. Like i said, i am thoroughly confused as to why a person who has lived in an enlightened society would want to go back to the stone age. The only reason i would consider is the usual Nigerian mentality. It is a very dangerous mentality. Well good luck bro. From what i have gathered from you post, you want to be a king surrounded by slaves. You need to feel like an oppressor. Well you are in luck; there are a lot of oppressed Nigerians to take advantage of. You are on the right track. As for me, i want to live a normal, safe and simple life with a somewhat predictable future for me and my family. Yes, i may pay a lot for health insurance, but at least i have QUALITY healthcare which is more than i can say for ninety percent of Nigerians. Yes i pay for car insurance, but at least when i get in an accident with another vehicle i don't get in a fist fight or a shouting match with the other occupant because i know my car will be fixed to factory specifications. Yes i pay tax, but at least i know my taxes are being used to make my life bearable. I can call the police and in ten minutes they are my residence ready for action. I have 365 days of power supply, regular gas and water, no interruptions. Yes, i am not an oppressor in the U.S but thank God; I am living a very, very, very, very good life. If i decide to step it up a notch, the enabling environment for me to do so is available. God help the Nigerian mentality.

Every country has its ups and downs, most of the defects with Nigeria is because of poverty, with money things seems a lot brighter. I have many friends from wealthy families and when they come to visit me in the U.S, they spend heavily and I'm always amazed! This type of people have made 9ja their paradise and are enjoying their life. I look at myself and realize I spend more time at work than anywhere else, for some they enjoy it but for me the entrepreneurial spirit in me is screaming to be free. I mentioned having a maid, a gateman and a driver but you took it as being an oppressor, you really have to change your thinking! You should see it as providing employment for the unemployed, in Africa labor is cheap, it's not about oppressing but paying for services. I wouldn't be able to afford that in the US of A! You also mentioned 365 days of power supply, I can have that too in 9ja, I'm a big believer of solar and alternative energy. You mentioned safety but fail to realize God is the ultimate protector, I grew up in Mushin, schooled in Ijebu, served in Borno, I was safe throughout. There's no place like home my guy

abbey621:


Every country has its ups and downs, most of the defects with Nigeria is because of poverty, with money things seems a lot brighter. I have many friends from wealthy families and when they come to visit me in the U.S, they spend heavily and I'm always amazed! This type of people have made 9ja their paradise and are enjoying their life. I look at myself and realize I spend more time at work than anywhere else, for some they enjoy it but for me the entrepreneurial spirit in me is screaming to be free. I mentioned having a maid, a gateman and a driver but you took it as being an oppressor, you really have to change your thinking! You should see it as providing employment for the unemployed, in Africa labor is cheap, it's not about oppressing but paying for services. I wouldn't be able to afford that in the US of A! You also mentioned 365 days of power supply, I can have that too in 9ja, I'm a big believer of solar and alternative energy. You mentioned safety but fail to realize God is the ultimate protector, I grew up in Mushin, schooled in Ijebu, served in Borno, I was safe throughout. There's no place like home my guy

Obviously there's no place like home, but when "home" is a keg of gun powder i'd rather be a migrant. And yes, all your lofty dreams are easy to display here on NL but you and i know both know what's up, don't we?

milychocs:


There is an Igbo gospel song that haunted my childhood (we had a relative who was a Catholic charismatic "living with us and tormenting me with this song when my parents would be away )

The song has something like, "aguu agaghi agum oo, n'enuigweeee...etc"
Meaning " I would never be hungry in paradise"

To me it meant no food...
I was haunted by the fact that I would just float in heaven, singing hymns, in white apparel! Earthly living felt like a better bargain ..I mean, no ice cream, no chocolate, no rice, no plantain, nothing! Who does that

Well I sincerely hope that is not a true picture!!! ...or I would haaate! Lol

I still hate that song...it is outdated now though...so it is not a song one would hear all the time thankfully

hahaha,in my own case i fell in love with that particular song because my father played it alot,infact this type of old school gospel is the type that interests me presently and so i still play the song and the likes of it as the messages they pass across makes me think deeply about the things of the spirit.yes,you can call me a young man(not so young though) with an old school mind.

doris107:


that a great soul lifting gospel from Brother Okwe, this song makes me to visualise heaven, ego agaghi akomoo! na eligwe, nwanne afo agaghi akomooo na elu igwe! di agaghi akomoo! na eluigwe! listening to dis song can shut down my appetite for days,
oooooh I feel like relocating to USA/paradise. no bad news like bombing, false assets declaration, no delayed governorship election in paradise.

....okay, I "hear" you, and respect your opinion
...but,