waldigit:


There you go, that is not my position at all. I am neither maintaining that catholic church nor any other group compiled the bible. He wanted to drag me into that but I refused to be dragged because I don't have verified facts.
My position still remain the contemporary Bible is not acceptable to Catholic. That is posteriori enough to draw conclusion. Else there wouldn't have been catholic version with other additions to it . I have read it myself.
That is why I logically deduced that catholic church did not compiled it. Else they wouldn't have persecuted it so much under any guise. But amazingly its still more popular than any other version. Going posteriori again a simple goole search for bible returns contemporary bible for the 1st 10 pages before any other version. I can go on but let me rest my case.

1. When you lie to the extent you begin to contradict your own lies. Look at the bold.

2. The Catholic Bible made no additions. It was compiled in 382AD. It was your Protestant Bible that had some books removed. Martin Luther removed books that refuted his heresy. He also wanted to remove James and Revelations.

3. The Catholic Bible is used by half of the world's Christians, who are Catholics. Truth is not determined by Google search results.

PastorAIO:


I mean that you have made a claim to know who wrote the gospels. After your claim you were asked to tell us who those people are.

The appropriate answer to that request would be a list of names and dates, or a simple 'sorry, I don't know'.

Instead the irrelevant and inane rhetorics started to flow.

You said:

.... but nobody asked you how many versions or whether they substantiated anything and no one asked you to hold brief for anybody. So why do you go off in this nonsense daft direction.

You said:


.. again totally irrelevant to the question asked of you. And totally nonsensical. Apart from you, everybody else has admitted that they don't know who wrote the gospels. Is it not daft to accuse someone of not being a first hand witness to his ignorance of an historical event? Does this not make you sound like a dunce?

You said:


... you come take plain-faced lie crown the whole wuruwuru. I believe you meant to write posteriori. Now you tell us, where did you witness the writing of the gospels, since your position is based on posteriori? Unless you admit that you just told a big fat lie. Nothing is posteriori about your claims.

Thank God say other people follow me see as he dey talk rubbish.

Jolliano:


Bros, all these pictures you're posting are lies (comics drawn and created by liars).

The onus is on you to give us the reasons why you think they are lies and in the absence of that the truth remains.

Jolliano:


My question is simple: What is the pillar and foundation of truth? (Before you answer, read 1 Timothy 3:15).
.

Not verse 15 alone start from verse 14:

"These things I write to you, though I hope to come to you shortly; but if I am delayed, I write so that you may know how you ought to conduct yourself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth" (1 Timothy 3:14-15).

Does the phrase "pillar and ground of the truth" indicate that the church is the creator of truth? Does it say that the church can originate tradition to supplement Scripture? The church being the "pillar and ground of the truth" simply means that the church is the proclaimer and defender of the truth.

Jolliano:


Also,
Which came first, the bible or the Church?
(Remember that Saul was persecuting the Church before he became the Paul that wrote the letters in the bible.)

The Bible does not consist only of the NT it also contains the OT. Are you saying that the Roman catholic Church preceded the OT?

OLAADEGBU:

The onus is on you to give us the reasons why you think they are lies and in the absence of that the truth remains.
Not verse 15 alone start from verse 14:
"These things I write to you, though I hope to come to you shortly; but if I am delayed, I write so that you may know how you ought to conduct yourself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth" (1 Timothy 3:14-15).
Does the phrase "pillar and ground of the truth" indicate that the church is the creator of truth? Does it say that the church can originate tradition to supplement Scripture? The church being the "pillar and ground of the truth" simply means that the church is the proclaimer and defender of the truth.
The Bible does not consist only of the NT it also contains the OT. Are you saying that the Roman catholic Church preceded the OT?

God is the creator of the Truth and The Church being the pillar and foundation of the truth is the SEAT on which the truth is deposited. That is what the Catholic Church calls the DEPOSIT OF FAITH.

The issue of abortion,homosexuality and female priests show that the Church does not add to this Deposit of faith unlike a lot of other christian faith communities.


The bible is the compilation of different books. Though there was the Old Testament before Jesus, the Bible(Compilation) was done by The Catholic Church.
Before this compilation, those outside Israel did not have an OT because it was written in hebrew and was used only by israelites and was written in seperate scrolls.
So, THE CHURCH came before and did the BIBLE(Compilation.)

OLAADEGBU:


Read all about it here.

The Attack!

OLAADEGBU:
The Attack!

Again with the comics created by liars.

OLAADEGBU:
"Should Catholic tradition have equal or greater authority than the Bible?"

But seriously, is this wat Christianity is all abt? When christians are busy attacking each others mode of belif,how den can u convert unbelievers? Is this wat ur faith is all about? Wat God will use to judge ur entry into His kingdom? How many pple around u av u helped so far because of ur faith as a Christian? Shldnt u rather focus on being a gud christian wf ur attention on how to get to heaven? Ish. No wonder d atheist find it easy to rubbish ur faith. Happy Sunday

Jolliano:


Again with the comics created by liars.

The onus is on you to prove how they are liars and you are saying the truth.

OLAADEGBU:


The onus is on you to prove how they are liars and you are saying the truth.

1553: if Queen Mary 'murdered' protestants then what would you say the protestant King Henry VIII did to catholics and members of the church of England who supported the Monasteries on whom their way of life depended.


1558: Please when did Queen Elizabeth 'denounce' Catholicism.

These are just a couple of the lies that spring to mind from your comics.

PastorAIO:


1553: if Queen Mary 'murdered' protestants then what would you say the protestant King Henry VIII did to catholics and members of the church of England who supported the Monasteries on whom their way of life depended.


1558: Please when did Queen Elizabeth 'denounce' Catholicism.

These are just a couple of the lies that spring to mind from your comics.

If you think they are lies why don't you provide the evidence for your counter claims? otherwise get the truth as depicted below.

Why are these guys never consistent in their talk?

First, Catholics added books to the Bible which is very funny because Jesus quoted from those books.
Now, Catholics removed verses and chapters from the bible.

When The Catholic Church was fighting against the wrong translations and destroying them. You say the Church was anti-Bible and so we were destroting bibles.


Bros, the official bible of the Catholic Church is the Douay Rheims bible and the Latin and Clementine Vulgate.

OLAADEGBU:


If you think they are lies why don't you provide the evidence for your counter claims? otherwise get the truth as depicted below.

"I would not open windows into men's souls."[1]
What it means: Elizabeth was urged to force her Catholic subjects to become Protestant. She said no, as she did not want to force her subjects to choose either way.[3]
https://simple.wikiquote.org/wiki/Elizabeth_I_of_England



Anti-Catholic junk history II: Mary I killed 284, Henry VIII up to 72,000 – but it's 'Bloody Mary' and 'Bluff King Hal'
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/geraldwarner/100047370/anti-catholic-junk-history-ii-mary-i-killed-284-henry-viii-up-to-72000-but-its-bloody-mary-and-bluff-king-hal/



So you see, your 'truth as depicted below' is nothing but the same ol pack of lies that your entire religious shambles is based on. Mr. Comic book hero.

PastorAIO:



"I would not open windows into men's souls."[1]
What it means: Elizabeth was urged to force her Catholic subjects to become Protestant. She said no, as she did not want to force her subjects to choose either way.[3]
https://simple.wikiquote.org/wiki/Elizabeth_I_of_England



Anti-Catholic junk history II: Mary I killed 284, Henry VIII up to 72,000 – but it's 'Bloody Mary' and 'Bluff King Hal'
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/geraldwarner/100047370/anti-catholic-junk-history-ii-mary-i-killed-284-henry-viii-up-to-72000-but-its-bloody-mary-and-bluff-king-hal/



So you see, your 'truth as depicted below' is nothing but the same ol pack of lies that your entire religious shambles is based on. Mr. Comic book hero.

In as much as you and your Roman catholic bedfellows want to rewrite the history books you cannot and will not succeed in pulling wool over the eyes of sincere diligent seekers of the truth. The link below blows your lies out of the water.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_I_of_England

OLAADEGBU:


In as much as you and your Roman catholic bedfellows want to rewrite the history books you cannot and will not succeed in pulling wool over the eyes of sincere diligent seekers of the truth. The link below blows your lies out of the water.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_I_of_England

You continue to lie and lie and lie.

The link you provided says this:

During her five-year reign, she had over 280 religious dissenters burned at the stake in the Marian persecutions.

That is even less than the number that I gave. The facts are that she killed 284 anti-catholics.

Her father Henry VIII who took england into protestantism killed 72,000 catholics and people who relied on catholic institutions like monasteries etc. Why do we remember her as 'Bloody Mary' While we don't associate her father with his murderous nature? Answer: Because the propagandist history was written by lying protestants like yourself. Opuro! Liar!! You are just too terrible. Lying for Jesus.

Of course you won't apologise for lying that 'I lied' and you 'blew my lies out of the water'. That would be too christlike for you.

Oya o, where is your next comic strip?

PastorAIO:


1553: if Queen Mary 'murdered' protestants then what would you say the protestant King Henry VIII did to catholics and members of the church of England who supported the Monasteries on whom their way of life depended.


1558: Please when did Queen Elizabeth 'denounce' Catholicism.

These are just a couple of the lies that spring to mind from your comics.

Staying on Mary. Here is an excerpt from the link I posted.

Religious policy

In the month following her accession, Mary issued a proclamation that she would not compel any of her subjects to follow her religion, but by the end of September leading Protestant churchmen—including John Bradford, John Rogers, John Hooper, Hugh Latimer, and Thomas Cranmer—were imprisoned.[113] Mary's first Parliament, which assembled in early October 1553, declared the marriage of her parents valid and abolished Edward's religious laws.[114] Church doctrine was restored to the form it had taken in the 1539 Six Articles, which (among other things) re-affirmed clerical celibacy. Married priests were deprived of their benefices.[115]

Mary had always rejected the break with Rome instituted by her father and the establishment of Protestantism by her brother's regents. Philip persuaded Parliament to repeal Henry's religious laws, thus returning the English church to Roman jurisdiction. Reaching an agreement took many months and Mary and Pope Julius III had to make a major concession: the monastery lands confiscated under Henry were not returned to the church but remained in the hands of their influential new owners.[116] By the end of 1554, the pope had approved the deal, and the Heresy Acts were revived.[117]

Under the Heresy Acts, numerous Protestants were executed in the Marian persecutions. Around 800 rich Protestants, including John Foxe, chose exile instead.[118] The first executions occurred over a period of five days in early February 1555: John Rogers on 4 February, Laurence Saunders on 8 February, and Rowland Taylor and John Hooper on 9 February.[119] Thomas Cranmer, the imprisoned archbishop of Canterbury, was forced to watch Bishops Ridley and Latimer being burned at the stake. Cranmer recanted, repudiated Protestant theology, and rejoined the Catholic faith.[120] Under the normal process of the law, he should have been absolved as a repentant. Mary, however, refused to reprieve him. On the day of his burning, he dramatically withdrew his recantation.[121] In total, 283 were executed, most by burning.[122] The burnings proved so unpopular that even Alfonso de Castro, one of Philip's own ecclesiastical staff, condemned them[123] and another adviser, Simon Renard, warned him that such "cruel enforcement" could "cause a revolt".[124] Mary persevered with the policy, which continued until her death and exacerbated anti-Catholic and anti-Spanish feeling among the English people.[125] The victims of the persecutions became lauded as martyrs.[126]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_I_of_England

Now are you still telling us that Mary did not murder protestants?

PastorAIO:


1553: if Queen Mary 'murdered' protestants then what would you say the protestant King Henry VIII did to catholics and members of the church of England who supported the Monasteries on whom their way of life depended.


1558: Please when did Queen Elizabeth 'denounce' Catholicism.

These are just a couple of the lies that spring to mind from your comics.

Read up about Queen Elizabeth I in the suggested link and find out whether she remained Catholic or not.

http://www.elizabethi.org/contents/elizabethanchurch/queenandchurch.html

OLAADEGBU:


Staying on Mary. Here is an excerpt from the link I posted.

Naturally, because you think that you have more ammunition with mary. So obviously you are tacitly admitting that you lied about Elizabeth 'denouncing' catholicism. No wahala, I accept your concession. But please repent from the Lies.

Now are you still telling us that Mary did not murder protestants?

More lies. Did I say that Mary did not kill any protestants. No I didn't, you Liar. Your father of lies must be very pleased with you.

In fact I gave you the exact number of protestants that Mary killed. That number is 284. And I compared it to the number of Catholics and catholic sympathisers her protestant father, King Henry, killed. That number was over 72,000. Again I ask, Why must you lie? Are you not afraid that you're covered in such mendacity and you are engaged in the matters of God and religion. Aren't you afraid? Or perhaps you are just cynical.
Perhaps you're one of those fools that the bible talks about when it says: The fool says in his heart there is no God. Inspite of your outward professions of belief actually you are a disbeliever and your actions betray that. I don't think anyone who truly believed in God could be so audaciously mendacious.

PastorAIO:


You continue to lie and lie and lie.

The link you provided says this:

During her five-year reign, she had over 280 religious dissenters burned at the stake in the Marian persecutions.

That is even less than the number that I gave. The facts are that she killed 284 anti-catholics.

Her father Henry VIII who took england into protestantism killed 72,000 catholics and people who relied on catholic institutions like monasteries etc. Why do we remember her as 'Bloody Mary' While we don't associate her father with his murderous nature? Answer: Because the propagandist history was written by lying protestants like yourself. Opuro! Liar!! You are just too terrible. Lying for Jesus.

Of course you won't apologise for lying that 'I lied' and you 'blew my lies out of the water'. That would be too christlike for you.

Oya o, where is your next comic strip?

You are the one stretching the truth here. You questioned the fact that Queen Mary murdered Protestants and you are now downgrading to say that she killed fewer than her father.

Do you now admit that Queen Mary murdered Protestants (the number is not relevant) and that Queen Elizabeth renounced Catholicism and reinstates the Church back to Anglicanism?

OLAADEGBU:


Read up about Queen Elizabeth I in the suggested link and find out whether she remained Catholic or not.

http://www.elizabethi.org/contents/elizabethanchurch/queenandchurch.html

You said that Elizabeth 'Denounced' Catholicism. You didn't say that didn't remain a Catholic. Of course not. She because the very head of the Church of England. Stop lying about what even you yourself said.

You claimed that she denounced catholicism.

I disagreed.

You asked me to provide proof, obviously hoping that it would be like seeking a needle in a haystack for me to prove this negative.

However it just so happened that in my readings on history I became well acquainted with Elizabeth's attitude to religion and religious wars, and far from denouncing anybody, she considered it a can of worms that she would rather not open at all, talk less of denouncing. Her attitude was that so long as all her subjects were loyal to their queen then they could practice whatever religion they wanted.

and in your last desperate attempt at pushing your lies, you try to shift the posts to say that she became a protestant. Her Mother was Anne Boleyn, for heavens sake!!! Anne Boleyn was the wife that pushed Henry to leave Catholicism so that they could get married. Elizabeth was born and raised a protestant.

OLAADEGBU:


You are the one stretching the truth here. You questioned the fact that Queen Mary murdered Protestants and you are now downgrading to say that she killed fewer than her father.

Do you now admit that Queen Mary murdered Protestants (the number is not relevant) and that Queen Elizabeth renounced Catholicism and reinstates the Church back to Anglicanism?

Only God can save you from the wiles of your Father of Lies. Where did I deny that Mary killed anybody? Please show me o!

The only downgrading that I see going on is the moral fibre of your soul.

OLAADEGBU:


Do you now admit that Queen Mary murdered Protestants (the number is not relevant) and that Queen Elizabeth renounced Catholicism and reinstates the Church back to Anglicanism?

You cannot renounce what you never were. and by the way renounce is different from denounce, so that is another lie from you.

PastorAIO:


Naturally, because you think that you have more ammunition with mary. So obviously you are tacitly admitting that you lied about Elizabeth 'denouncing' catholicism. No wahala, I accept your concession. But please repent from the Lies.

As much as you are trying to label me a liar instead of establishing the truth you will only be doing the work of the devil who is the accuser of the brethren. The fact is that after Mary's death Elizabeth who was practising Catholicism under Mary's reign reinstated the Church to Anglicanism. That is what I meant by denouncing Catholicism.

PastorAIO:


More lies. Did I say that Mary did not kill any protestants. No I didn't, you Liar. Your father of lies must be very pleased with you.

This is what you said:

PastorAIO:


1553: if Queen Mary 'murdered' protestants then what would you say the protestant King Henry VIII did to catholics and members of the church of England who supported the Monasteries on whom their way of life depended.

You put the word murdered in quote and to me that means you do not believe she murdered but if that is not what you meant then can you tell us why you quoted it. It is the devil who is the accuser of the brethren, he is always quick to condemn believers of sin. Don't emulate the devil unless he is your role model.

PastorAIO:


In fact I gave you the exact number of protestants that Mary killed. That number is 284. And I compared it to the number of Catholics and catholic sympathisers her protestant father, King Henry, killed. That number was over 72,000.

The number of Protestant Mary murdered is not the issue here. The fact remains that she murdered them during her reign. The name bloody Mary may have something to do with it. Stop beating about the bush.

PastorAIO:


Again I ask, Why must you lie? Are you not afraid that you're covered in such mendacity and you are engaged in the matters of God and religion. Aren't you afraid? Or perhaps you are just cynical.
Perhaps you're one of those fools that the bible talks about when it says: The fool says in his heart there is no God. Inspite of your outward professions of belief actually you are a disbeliever and your actions betray that. I don't think anyone who truly believed in God could be so audaciously mendacious.

I have not deliberately lied to you. It is human to err and it is divine to forgive. You are not my Creator, if I have sinned I have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous who will forgive. It is not for you to condemn another man's servant and my advise to you is to stop doing the devil's bidding.

PastorAIO:


You said that Elizabeth 'Denounced' Catholicism. You didn't say that didn't remain a Catholic. Of course not. She because the very head of the Church of England. Stop lying about what even you yourself said.

You claimed that she denounced catholicism.

I disagreed.

You asked me to provide proof, obviously hoping that it would be like seeking a needle in a haystack for me to prove this negative.

However it just so happened that in my readings on history I became well acquainted with Elizabeth's attitude to religion and religious wars, and far from denouncing anybody, she considered it a can of worms that she would rather not open at all, talk less of denouncing. Her attitude was that so long as all her subjects were loyal to their queen then they could practice whatever religion they wanted.

and in your last desperate attempt at pushing your lies, you try to shift the posts to say that she became a protestant. Her Mother was Anne Boleyn, for heavens sake!!! Anne Boleyn was the wife that pushed Henry to leave Catholicism so that they could get married. Elizabeth was born and raised a protestant.

Elizabeth was born and raised a Protestant but she practised the Roman Catholic faith when Mary was on the throne. Simples.

Excerpt

Although Elizabeth had adhered to the Catholic faith during her sister's reign, she had been raised a Protestant, and was committed to that faith.

http://www.elizabethi.org/contents/elizabethanchurch/queenandchurch.html

PastorAIO:


Only God can save you from the wiles of your Father of Lies. Where did I deny that Mary killed anybody? Please show me o!

Okay. I can accept that you now admit unreservedly that Mary was a murderer. Accept my apologies for thinking otherwise. Next time don't put the word murdered in quote, right?

PastorAIO:


The only downgrading that I see going on is the moral fibre of your soul.

I'll be praying for the salvation of your soul even though you wish for the destruction of mine. Jesus is Lord.

PastorAIO:


You cannot renounce what you never were. and by the way renounce is different from denounce, so that is another lie from you.

Elizabeth adhered to the Roman Catholic faith during Mary's reign. She then reinstated the Church to Anglicanism (Church of England). Thanks for the correction of semantics. May the Lord save your soul from the fires of hell.

OLAADEGBU:

As much as you are trying to label me a liar instead of establishing the truth you will only be doing the work of the devil who is the accuser of the brethren. The fact is that after Mary's death Elizabeth who was practising Catholicism under Mary's reign reinstated the Church to Anglicanism. That is what I meant by denouncing Catholicism.

Okay, well in that case you are using the word in the wrong sense. It is an understandable error.

This is the dictionary definition of denounce:

denounce
dɪˈnaʊns/
verb
verb: denounce; 3rd person present: denounces; past tense: denounced; past participle: denounced; gerund or present participle: [b]denouncing
publicly declare to be wrong or evil.
"the Assembly denounced the use of violence"
synonyms: condemn, criticize, attack, censure, castigate, decry, revile, vilify, besmirch, discredit, damn, reject,
[/b]

So you see Elizabeth never denounced Catholicism. However I understand if you mistakenly used the wrong word.

This is what you said:
You put the word murdered in quote and to me that means you do not believe she murdered but if that is not what you meant then can you tell us why you quoted it. It is the devil who is the accuser of the brethren, he is always quick to condemn believers of sin. Don't emulate the devil unless he is your role model.

In my understanding of the english language the word 'Murder' is used to refer to unlawful or extra judicial killings.


murder
ˈməːdə/
noun
1.
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
"the brutal murder of a German holidaymaker"
synonyms: killing, homicide, assassination, liquidation, extermination, execution, slaughter, butchery, massacre; More
2.
informal
a very difficult or unpleasant task or experience.
"the 40-mile-per-hour winds at the summit were murder"
synonyms: hell, hell on earth, a nightmare, an ordeal, a trial, a frustrating/unpleasant/difficult experience, misery, torture, agony
"driving there was murder"
verb
verb: murder; 3rd person present: murders; past tense: murdered; past participle: murdered; gerund or present participle: murdering
1.
kill (someone) unlawfully and with premeditation.
"he was accused of murdering his wife's lover"

If Queen Mary had acted outside of the Law of England, a law which she was the Chief arbiter, then I would agree that she murdered her subjects. She had them executed? Yes. She had them Killed? Yes. I supposed it's like some arguments that you hear on NL here that since God is the Arbiter of morality then he can commit as much genocide as he likes and it is not immoral.

At the end of the day, we are not english so we cannot be blamed for misusing the english language.

The number of Protestant Mary murdered is not the issue here. The fact remains that she murdered them during her reign. The name bloody Mary may have something to do with it. Stop beating about the bush.
I have not deliberately lied to you. It is human to err and it is divine to forgive. You are not my Creator, if I have sinned I have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous who will forgive. It is not for you to condemn another man's servant and my advise to you is to stop doing the devil's bidding.

It is not my place to condemn you, all I did was point out that your posts are full of untruths. I supposed I pointed that out with a bit of frustration, so I must apologise. If your factual inaccuracies were unintentional then I suppose rather than call you a liar I ought to have just said you have been terribly misinformed.

OLAADEGBU:


Okay. I can accept that you now admit unreservedly that Mary was a murderer. Accept my apologies for thinking otherwise. Next time don't put the word murdered in quote, right?

What!! You're really incorrigible, you dis man. Good night.

PastorAIO:


Okay, well in that case you are using the word in the wrong sense. It is an understandable error.

This is the dictionary definition of denounce:

denounce
dɪˈnaʊns/
verb
verb: denounce; 3rd person present: denounces; past tense: denounced; past participle: denounced; gerund or present participle: [b]denouncing
publicly declare to be wrong or evil.
"the Assembly denounced the use of violence"
synonyms: condemn, criticize, attack, censure, castigate, decry, revile, vilify, besmirch, discredit, damn, reject,
[/b]

So you see Elizabeth never denounced Catholicism. However I understand if you mistakenly used the wrong word.

Going by your definition it is not out of place for me to say Queen Elizabeth denounced the Roman Catholic faith since it is recorded that she adhered to the faith while she was under Mary's reign.

PastorAIO:


In my understanding of the english language the word 'Murder' is used to refer to unlawful or extra judicial killings.


murder
ˈməːdə/
noun
1.
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
"the brutal murder of a German holidaymaker"
synonyms: killing, homicide, assassination, liquidation, extermination, execution, slaughter, butchery, massacre; More
2.
informal
a very difficult or unpleasant task or experience.
"the 40-mile-per-hour winds at the summit were murder"
synonyms: hell, hell on earth, a nightmare, an ordeal, a trial, a frustrating/unpleasant/difficult experience, misery, torture, agony
"driving there was murder"
verb
verb: murder; 3rd person present: murders; past tense: murdered; past participle: murdered; gerund or present participle: murdering
1.
kill (someone) unlawfully and with premeditation.
"he was accused of murdering his wife's lover"

If Queen Mary had acted outside of the Law of England, a law which she was the Chief arbiter, then I would agree that she murdered her subjects. She had them executed? Yes. She had them Killed? Yes. I supposed it's like some arguments that you hear on NL here that since God is the Arbiter of morality then he can commit as much genocide as he likes and it is not immoral.

At the end of the day, we are not english so we cannot be blamed for misusing the english language.

Are you saying the 'final solution' meted out by Hitler to the Jews and others can be said to be legal executions?

PastorAIO:


It is not my place to condemn you, all I did was point out that your posts are full of untruths. I supposed I pointed that out with a bit of frustration, so I must apologise. If your factual inaccuracies were unintentional then I suppose rather than call you a liar I ought to have just said you have been terribly misinformed.

You did not point out any untruths. What I posted were facts backed up with links. All you are interested in doing is to accuse and to impose your own biased story to attack the living word of God and you have failed.

OLAADEGBU:


Going by your definition it is not out of place for me to say Queen Elizabeth denounced the Roman Catholic faith since it is recorded that she adhered to the faith while she was under Mary's reign.

If reverting back to protestantism is your understanding of publicly declaring to be wrong or evil, then only God can help your understanding of the english language.

Are you saying the 'final solution' meted out by Hitler to the Jews and others can be said to be legal executions?

Not according to international law under which they were tried.

The Nuremberg trials (German: die Nürnberger Prozesse) were a series of military tribunals, held by the Allied forces after World War II, which were most notable for the prosecution of prominent members of the political, military, and economic leadership of Nazi Germany who allegedly planned, carried out, or otherwise participated in The Holocaust and other war crimes. The trials were held in the city of Nuremberg, Germany. -Wikipedia

You did not point out any untruths. What I posted were facts backed up with links. All you are interested in doing is to accuse and to impose your own biased story to attack the living word of God and you have failed.

Your lies are not the living word of God. Your audacity it so deplorable. Lying that Elizabeth denounced Catholicism is not the Living Word of God. It is a lie from your Father of lies.

Lying that Mary murdered her own subjects is not the Living word of God.

It's one thing to be so full of mendacity, but quite another thing to equate it to God's word. You have no fear of God in you.

PastorAIO:


If reverting back to protestantism is your understanding of publicly declaring to be wrong or evil, then only God can help your understanding of the english language.



Not according to international law under which they were tried.

The Nuremberg trials (German: die Nürnberger Prozesse) were a series of military tribunals, held by the Allied forces after World War II, which were most notable for the prosecution of prominent members of the political, military, and economic leadership of Nazi Germany who allegedly planned, carried out, or otherwise participated in The Holocaust and other war crimes. The trials were held in the city of Nuremberg, Germany. -Wikipedia




Your lies are not the living word of God. Your audacity it so deplorable. Lying that Elizabeth denounced Catholicism is not the Living Word of God. It is a lie from your Father of lies.

Lying that Mary murdered her own subjects is not the Living word of God.

It's one thing to be so full of mendacity, but quite another thing to equate it to God's word. You have no fear of God in you.

I thought you said your good night already. Good night and sleep well.

Pastoraio it seems u've gat too much time, this is ola, nothing u say can help him.

This is what happens when people study history from Wikipedia.