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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by OCTAVO: 1:02pm On Jan 19, 2016
Blessed be the name of the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY for making me come across this thread. And blessed be the brother who posted the link to this thread on another thread. Blessed be all contributors thus far and most importantly the originator. This thread has been insightful, started reading when the thread was already 53 pages, took me like 4 days to catch up, guess what? It was worth my time (despite my contribution on other nairaland threads reduced drastically within the 4 days).
This thread has immensely exposed the works of darkness! Hallelujah to JEHOVAH.
Surprisingly, I didn't read any comment as regarding STARS (please I'm not referring to Astrology and maybe astraprojection e.t.c). I mean people are also gifted genuinely in seeing this Heavenly body in different forms. Well, I've seen a lot in diverse forms but it didn't just make any meaning to me. Anyone knowledgeable enough can throw more light in this direction, it will be appreciated.

The only time I've ever seen anything physical was in my university days. One afternoon that I was having a discussion with my friend's new girlfriend, lo and behold, her eyes changed to that of a snake (I wasn't dreaming, it was physical). I could no longer look directly into her eyes cos her gaze was piercing directly into my eyes (but I wasn't scared all the same). I knew she had serpentine spirit. I just discharged her and told her I'll see her later. Guess what, my friend now had a strange dream. He dreamt he was playing with snake, he placed the snake on his shoulders and the snake was twisting all around his body. Thank God he too had a discerning spirit. He knew it was the girl even without being told. He broke up the relationship after 21 days. Thank God he didn't have sex with her.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by shalomm: 1:20pm On Jan 19, 2016
Sarassin:


An Eidetic memory, is memory retention of events from as early as birth and in some rare cases even pre-birth. You narrated events (to your mum) that took place when (according to you) you were extremely young. Remote viewing is a huge gift, the ability to consciously transcend space and time.
I have this gift. I have travel through space and time countless time. Sometimes i even see myself fighting wars.(any pain or injury i sustain there, i feel it when i become conscious.)
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 3:43pm On Jan 19, 2016
Sarassin:


An Eidetic memory, is memory retention of events from as early as birth and in some rare cases even pre-birth. You narrated events (to your mum) that took place when (according to you) you were extremely young. Remote viewing is a huge gift, the ability to consciously transcend space and time.
Bro I think you are mixing issues
Eidetic memory also known as photographic memory is detailed retention of events as you rightly put. You can't possibly 'recall' events you haven't witnessed which begs the question, how did you receive these memories of events before you were born? Beyond this you are straying into something neither spiritual nor scientific and probably demonic.

Remote viewing is a fancy name for astral body projection. While human spirit is normally resident in the body, there has been instances both on and off scriptures where the spirits of men, under guidance of Holy Spirit moved from their body and participated in events especially prophecy. Occultists know this and they have astral projections where with aid of demons one leaves their body for a limited time and participates in meetings and so forth. As a rule, a Christian must not attempt this unless it is initiated by the Holy Spirit.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 3:44pm On Jan 19, 2016
shalomm:

I have this gift. I have travel through space and time countless time. Sometimes i even see myself fighting wars.(any pain or injury i sustain there, i feel it when i become conscious.)
Are you a Christian in that is Jesus Christ your savior and Lord?

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by shalomm: 4:51pm On Jan 19, 2016
vooks:
Are you a Christian in that is Jesus Christ your savior and Lord?
yes i am a christian. And indeed Jesus christ is my lord and savior.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 5:33pm On Jan 19, 2016
shalomm:

yes i am a christian. And indeed Jesus christ is my lord and savior.
Were you having these experiences before you became a Christian?
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 7:51pm On Jan 19, 2016
vooks:

Bro I think you are mixing issues
Eidetic memory also known as photographic memory is detailed retention of events as you rightly put. You can't possibly 'recall' events you haven't witnessed which begs the question, how did you receive these memories of events before you were born? Beyond this you are straying into something neither spiritual nor scientific and probably demonic.

There is nothing demonic about people retaining memories pre-birth and particularly of previous lives. There is presently a burgeoning industry in past-life regression conducted under deep hypnosis whereby people have been able to recall verifiable details of past life events, there are those who can recall such events without the aid of hypnotherapy.

Remote viewing is a fancy name for astral body projection. While human spirit is normally resident in the body, there has been instances both on and off scriptures where the spirits of men, under guidance of Holy Spirit moved from their body and participated in events especially prophecy. Occultists know this and they have astral projections where with aid of demons one leaves their body for a limited time and participates in meetings and so forth. As a rule, a Christian must not attempt this unless it is initiated by the Holy Spirit.

Remote viewing is palpably distinct from Astral Projection, I will not go into subtleties as one must not upset the religious folk on these pages, suffice to say that in one procedure if done properly, the etheric plasma is involved and in the other not so. There are no demons involved in the process but a novice practitioner can be subjected to buffeting from lower elemental entities.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 8:05pm On Jan 19, 2016
Sarassin:


There is nothing demonic about people retaining memories pre-birth and particularly of previous lives. There is presently a burgeoning industry in past-life regression conducted under deep hypnosis whereby people have been able to recall verifiable details of past life events, there are those who can recall such events without the aid of hypnotherapy.
That belongs to the realm of pseudoscience bro. Eastern mysticism under a thin veneer of science. Zero evidence of the same btw.


Remote viewing is palpably distinct from Astral Projection, I will not go into subtleties as one must not upset the religious folk on these pages, suffice to say that in one procedure if done properly, the etheric plasma is involved and in the other not so. There are no demons involved in the process but a novice practitioner can be subjected to buffeting from lower elemental entities.
New Age horse manure per excellence

What else, Sirius, Nibiru and what have you cheesy

Since you pass yourself as somewhat knowledgeable in these New Age and Eastern mysticism, what is your specialty? I want to test your abilities right here

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by analice107: 8:24pm On Jan 19, 2016
superior1:


I call this message woah!!, a very good Panadol for Sunday to Sunday nominal Christians. Can't find anything to edit save some minor typos and nothing to add. Chai!, I throway salute to this didaskalia o
HahahahahahahahaHHHa. Pls what is didaskalia?
My phone embarresses me beyond words. I type some thing, another things pops up. Most times I won't even know, until I reread it. Pls forgive us, me and my phone. lol.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 8:37pm On Jan 19, 2016
vooks:

That belongs to the realm of pseudoscience bro. Eastern mysticism under a thin veneer of science. Zero evidence of the same btw.

There is nothing pseudo-scientific about past life regression therapy as a tool, for amongst other things healing.

New Age horse manure per excellence

What else, Sirius, Nibiru and what have you cheesy

Since you pass yourself as somewhat knowledgeable in these New Age and Eastern mysticism, what is your specialty? I want to test your abilities right here

You really make me laugh, and who died and designated you grand inquisitor of Nairaland pages? I suggest past life regression therapy for you, very likely in a previous incarnation you were a religious inquisitor, you could do with some healing.

Whatever gives you the impression I have any interest in indulging you? “wants to test my abilities” What a clown.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by ccollins(m): 9:40pm On Jan 19, 2016
analice107:

Praise God for continues victory. Satan can't stand our boldness. It's recently I understood why the Bible is full of "fear nots" Satan is a coward seriously. He uses intimidation tactics to scare people. Look at the horror films, it all about intimidation and fear. If you stand, he flees.
Sometimes I just feel like climbing a very high place, stand up there and shout "don't be afraid of satan" to all the believers. But they still won't believe me. Their minds are too caged in fear, especially by the so called modern day prophets, who spend all their time in church painting pictures of how powerful Satan is, by virtue of what he does. They talk so much about Satan and so little about God. Magnifying Satan and casting fear into the minds of people who are too lazy to read the Bible for themselves.
I feel this prophets are working for Satan. because, they reversing the order Christ set. Christ says he has put Satan under our feet and given us victory, these prophets put people in bandage using fear.
thank God for all.. satan uses fear tactic people countless times and people also feel sin makes them weak and think this is a real exploitation because I feel God can tolerate anything no. matter how foolish it may be but Sin. Also, God is love and this no force both in heaven and on earth can ever imitate.. where there is removal of love, it is most easiest to commit sins there and attract demons there (1 corrinthians 13). am in school now
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by shalomm: 11:08pm On Jan 19, 2016
vooks:
Were you having these experiences before you became a Christian?
after i became a christian.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by superior1: 11:19pm On Jan 19, 2016
analice107:

HahahahahahahahaHHHa. Pls what is didaskalia?
My phone embarresses me beyond words. I type some thing, another things pops up. Most times I won't even know, until I reread it. Pls forgive us, me and my phone. lol.

Greek word for a female wey dey teach bible well well...teacher of the word like you
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by superior1: 11:22pm On Jan 19, 2016
OCTAVO:
Surprisingly, I didn't read any comment as regarding STARS (please I'm not referring to Astrology and maybe astraprojection e.t.c). I mean people are also gifted genuinely in seeing this Heavenly body in different forms. Well, I've seen a lot in diverse forms but it didn't just make any meaning to me. Anyone knowledgeable enough can throw more light in this direction, it will be appreciated.
.

You are welcome bro, do you care to share more lights on the quote?

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 11:25pm On Jan 19, 2016
analice107:

HahahahahahahahaHHHa. Pls what is didaskalia?
My phone embarresses me beyond words. I type some thing, another things pops up. Most times I won't even know, until I reread it. Pls forgive us, me and my phone. lol.


As promised dearest sis
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 11:42pm On Jan 19, 2016
vooks:

Bro I think you are mixing issues
Eidetic memory also known as photographic memory is detailed retention of events as you rightly put. You can't possibly 'recall' events you haven't witnessed which begs the question, how did you receive these memories of events before you were born? Beyond this you are straying into something neither spiritual nor scientific and probably demonic.

Remote viewing is a fancy name for astral body projection. While human spirit is normally resident in the body, there has been instances both on and off scriptures where the spirits of men, under guidance of Holy Spirit moved from their body and participated in events especially prophecy. Occultists know this and they have astral projections where with aid of demons one leaves their body for a limited time and participates in meetings and so forth. As a rule, a Christian must not attempt this unless it is initiated by the Holy Spirit.


Hello sir,

Ur last statement caught me.

"As a rule, a christian must not attempt this unless it is initiated by the Holy Spirit"

I had a nearly somewhat out of body experience without seeing it coming.

Early morning say abt 15 past 7, just after reading through certain scriptures n the bible and asking the Holy Spirit to guide n teach me through the word. After I was done, I decided to lay down awhile. I drifted n before I could say jack see the lights so bright and the fan going sooo high. I was about wondering what that was about when allova sudden I kinda realise I'm moving on upwards into some kinda clear void with bright colours everywhere up there. Was moving up so fast I could even feel my physical feet were in speed motion, I'm tryna reckon what's happening and immediately I realise I'm seeing really clearly but then it's not with my two physical eyes but some very big bright eye, actually bigger than my normal physical eyes n wayyyyy brighter. At the realisation of the thot that for the first time I might be having an out of body experience and having full knowledge of it, I became afraid and try to stop this occurrence by forcing my physical body to wake up. But the spirit man already involved refuses the physical to wake up. The body however takes precedence and forces itself up,unsure of what was happening or where the spirit was headed for. Immediately I wake up and I'm aghast n wondering ;God what was that about just now? I don't remember wanting such an experience so why did it happen and where was I even headed for? These were questions left in my head n for the rest of the day I experienced the worst headache ever. I tried to go back to sleep countless times to ease the headache that had defiled all workings of the pcm I took to no avail. Of course I do have some little knowledge of astral travelling n stuff cos of my exposure to the rampa books but I know trying the astral travelling wasn't in my agenda, the fear of it alone cudnt have made me delve, this however brings me back to the reason for this post, why did I have that experience, was it from God or otherwise? Cos I know just as u explained above that it is not our place to be overly inquisitive of such things as astral travel save of course it's inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Sorry for the missive and bless u as u help a sister decipher this out.

Thanks

P:S- wrote in a hurry, apologies for any mistypes

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 4:52am On Jan 20, 2016
Sarassin:


There is nothing pseudo-scientific about past life regression therapy as a tool, for amongst other things healing.



You really make me laugh, and who died and designated you grand inquisitor of Nairaland pages? I suggest past life regression therapy for you, very likely in a previous incarnation you were a religious inquisitor, you could do with some healing.

Whatever gives you the impression I have any interest in indulging you? “wants to test my abilities” What a clown.
Coward, nothing but empty blabber

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by vooks: 5:23am On Jan 20, 2016
dazzle101:



Hello sir,

Ur last statement caught me.

"As a rule, a christian must not attempt this unless it is initiated by the Holy Spirit"

I had a nearly somewhat out of body experience without seeing it coming.

Early morning say abt 15 past 7, just after reading through certain scriptures n the bible and asking the Holy Spirit to guide n teach me through the word. After I was done, I decided to lay down awhile. I drifted n before I could say jack see the lights so bright and the fan going sooo high. I was about wondering what that was about when allova sudden I kinda realise I'm moving on upwards into some kinda clear void with bright colours everywhere up there. Was moving up so fast I could even feel my physical feet were in speed motion, I'm tryna reckon what's happening and immediately I realise I'm seeing really clearly but then it's not with my two physical eyes but some very big bright eye, actually bigger than my normal physical eyes n wayyyyy brighter. At the realisation of the thot that for the first time I might be having an out of body experience and having full knowledge of it, I became afraid and try to stop this occurrence by forcing my physical body to wake up. But the spirit man already involved refuses the physical to wake up. The body however takes precedence and forces itself up,unsure of what was happening or where the spirit was headed for. Immediately I wake up and I'm aghast n wondering ;God what was that about just now? I don't remember wanting such an experience so why did it happen and where was I even headed for? These were questions left in my head n for the rest of the day I experienced the worst headache ever. I tried to go back to sleep countless times to ease the headache that had defiled all workings of the pcm I took to no avail. Of course I do have some little knowledge of astral travelling n stuff cos of my exposure to the rampa books but I know trying the astral travelling wasn't in my agenda, the fear of it alone cudnt have made me delve, this however brings me back to the reason for this post, why did I have that experience, was it from God or otherwise? Cos I know just as u explained above that it is not our place to be overly inquisitive of such things as astral travel save of course it's inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Sorry for the missive and bless u as u help a sister decipher this out.

Thanks

P:S- wrote in a hurry, apologies for any mistypes

Thank you beloved siz.
As Pentecostalism was hitting Western countries in the 20th century, Eastern Mysticism was also making inroads. From the West both of these came to Africa. So one does not need to study Asian and Indian books, we have far too many purveyors of Westernized Eastern religions like Lampa and Depak Chopra.

Eastern Mysticism is at its base antiChristian. See while in Christianity we have fallen man, weak man who needs God(Jesus) to condescend to his level to save him, Eastern mysticism is all about a strong man, it's about tapping into some latent power in man. In short, Eastern religions are inward looking while Christianity is outward looking.

A culture that has not encountered Christianity or Judaism is not going to turn to God. They are lost regardless of how innocent they practice their religion. This was Paul's encounter on Mar's Hill. It's why God drove away the inhabitants of Canaan. It's also why African religions are incompatible with Christianity.

Back to your experience. THIRD EYE is certainly not Christian. This rules out your experience as being of God. Secondly, even the instances we see in the scriptures what we may call out of body experiences, they are totally spiritual, they have a goal, usually to receive revelation from God. They are not just wild spiritual tourism.

What to do?
First, discard eastern mysticism and New Age literature. In Acts 19:19, they burned very expensive magic books after they met Christ.

Secondly, do not practice those exercises they teach there, transcendental meditation, Yoga,acupuncture and so forth.

Thirdly, you need to pray and fast and ask God to sever any ties you may have created through these books and exercises.

Finally, should such experiences visit upon you, you need to take your position as a believer. You have authority. Resist them in the mighty name of Jesus Christ

One thing that is clear to me is even in our sleep we are still Christians. So we should not participate in ungodly stuff just because it is in a dream. And if we do, the first thing after waking up is renouncing them.

Anas09,CHARLYG1 anything else to add?

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 6:44am On Jan 20, 2016
vooks:


Thank you beloved siz.
As Pentecostalism was hitting Western countries in the 20th century, Eastern Mysticism was also making inroads. From the West both of these came to Africa. So one does not need to study Asian and Indian books, we have far too many purveyors of Westernized Eastern religions like Lampa and Depak Chopra.

Eastern Mysticism is at its base antiChristian. See while in Christianity we have fallen man, weak man who needs God(Jesus) to condescend to his level to save him, Eastern mysticism is all about a strong man, it's about tapping into some latent power in man. In short, Eastern religions are inward looking while Christianity is outward looking.

A culture that has not encountered Christianity or Judaism is not going to turn to God. They are lost regardless of how innocent they practice their religion. This was Paul's encounter on Mar's Hill. It's why God drove away the inhabitants of Canaan. It's also why African religions are incompatible with Christianity.

Back to your experience. THIRD EYE is certainly not Christian. This rules out your experience as being of God. Secondly, even the instances we see in the scriptures what we may call out of body experiences, they are totally spiritual, they have a goal, usually to receive revelation from God. They are not just wild spiritual tourism.

What to do?
First, discard eastern mysticism and New Age literature. In Acts 19:19, they burned very expensive magic books after they met Christ.

Secondly, do not practice those exercises they teach there, transcendental meditation, Yoga,acupuncture and so forth.

Thirdly, you need to pray and fast and ask God to sever any ties you may have created through these books and exercises.

Finally, should such experiences visit upon you, you need to take your position as a believer. You have authority. Resist them in the mighty name of Jesus Christ

One thing that is clear to me is even in our sleep we are still Christians. So we should not participate in ungodly stuff just because it is in a dream. And if we do, the first thing after waking up is renouncing them.

Anas09,CHARLYG1 anything else to add?

Morning dear brethren,

Thank you so much for taking time to explain these things, I really do appreciate it.

Indeed I will embark on that fast as u advised.

Bless u sir and Shallom to all
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by superior1: 7:29am On Jan 20, 2016
dazzle101:



Hello sir,

Ur last statement caught me.

"As a rule, a christian must not attempt this unless it is initiated by the Holy Spirit"

I had a nearly somewhat out of body experience without seeing it coming.

Early morning say abt 15 past 7, just after reading through certain scriptures n the bible and asking the Holy Spirit to guide n teach me through the word. After I was done, I decided to lay down awhile. I drifted n before I could say jack see the lights so bright and the fan going sooo high. I was about wondering what that was about when allova sudden I kinda realise I'm moving on upwards into some kinda clear void with bright colours everywhere up there. Was moving up so fast I could even feel my physical feet were in speed motion, I'm tryna reckon what's happening and immediately I realise I'm seeing really clearly but then it's not with my two physical eyes but some very big bright eye, actually bigger than my normal physical eyes n wayyyyy brighter. At the realisation of the thot that for the first time I might be having an out of body experience and having full knowledge of it, I became afraid and try to stop this occurrence by forcing my physical body to wake up. But the spirit man already involved refuses the physical to wake up. The body however takes precedence and forces itself up,unsure of what was happening or where the spirit was headed for. Immediately I wake up and I'm aghast n wondering ;God what was that about just now? I don't remember wanting such an experience so why did it happen and where was I even headed for? These were questions left in my head n for the rest of the day I experienced the worst headache ever. I tried to go back to sleep countless times to ease the headache that had defiled all workings of the pcm I took to no avail. Of course I do have some little knowledge of astral travelling n stuff cos of my exposure to the rampa books but I know trying the astral travelling wasn't in my agenda, the fear of it alone cudnt have made me delve, this however brings me back to the reason for this post, why did I have that experience, was it from God or otherwise? Cos I know just as u explained above that it is not our place to be overly inquisitive of such things as astral travel save of course it's inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Sorry for the missive and bless u as u help a sister decipher this out.

Thanks

P:S- wrote in a hurry, apologies for any mistypes

Quite an experience there, I noticed you used the singular word 'big bright eye', can you confirm or give some further description of that?
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by analice107: 10:13am On Jan 20, 2016
superior1:


Greek word for a female wey dey teach bible well well...teacher of the word like you
Oh. Interesting. But do I indeed teach well? Thank you sir, your words are so encouraging.
With all my heart, I want to be a preacher of the gospel. Am asking God for a platform to do that.
Thank you sir.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by analice107: 10:16am On Jan 20, 2016
dazzle101:


As promised dearest sis
*grinning widely* thanks sis.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 10:34am On Jan 20, 2016
superior1:


Quite an experience there, I noticed you used the singular word 'big bright eye', can you confirm or give some further description of that?

Yes indeed.

The eye was apparently in the front of my head, say the fore head precisely. I believe that's what's referred to as the third eye which could only be open by some spiritual guidance and not something we have invoke @will. I used the expression big bright eye because my two physical eyes compared to it felt smaller and the vision it exuded was really clearer than the normal.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 10:35am On Jan 20, 2016
analice107:

*grinning widely* thanks sis.

Anytime dear.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by CharlyG1: 11:02am On Jan 20, 2016
vooks:


Thank you beloved siz.
As Pentecostalism was hitting Western countries in the 20th century, Eastern Mysticism was also making inroads. From the West both of these came to Africa. So one does not need to study Asian and Indian books, we have far too many purveyors of Westernized Eastern religions like Lampa and Depak Chopra.

Eastern Mysticism is at its base antiChristian. See while in Christianity we have fallen man, weak man who needs God(Jesus) to condescend to his level to save him, Eastern mysticism is all about a strong man, it's about tapping into some latent power in man. In short, Eastern religions are inward looking while Christianity is outward looking.

A culture that has not encountered Christianity or Judaism is not going to turn to God. They are lost regardless of how innocent they practice their religion. This was Paul's encounter on Mar's Hill. It's why God drove away the inhabitants of Canaan. It's also why African religions are incompatible with Christianity.

Back to your experience. THIRD EYE is certainly not Christian. This rules out your experience as being of God. Secondly, even the instances we see in the scriptures what we may call out of body experiences, they are totally spiritual, they have a goal, usually to receive revelation from God. They are not just wild spiritual tourism.

What to do?
First, discard eastern mysticism and New Age literature. In Acts 19:19, they burned very expensive magic books after they met Christ.

Secondly, do not practice those exercises they teach there, transcendental meditation, Yoga,acupuncture and so forth.

Thirdly, you need to pray and fast and ask God to sever any ties you may have created through these books and exercises.

Finally, should such experiences visit upon you, you need to take your position as a believer. You have authority. Resist them in the mighty name of Jesus Christ

One thing that is clear to me is even in our sleep we are still Christians. So we should not participate in ungodly stuff just because it is in a dream. And if we do, the first thing after waking up is renouncing them.

Anas09,CHARLYG1 anything else to add?

Thank you vooks. I clearly agree with you.


People need to be warned about this out of body experience thing. No human is a superman or superwoman. Satan likes to make us believe we have power of our own which is false. We are nothing without Jesus.
And we have no power of our own.


People who expose themselves to astral projection will certainly have demons knowingly or unknowingly. It is 99% guaranteed. Then if it becomes a constant thing, it's 150% guaranteed.



Anything that makes you deliberately toy with your soul(mind) whereby you lose consciousness and float into the unknown is an open door for demons to come into that person's life.


Only the Holy Spirit can use the spirit of man based on how God wants.

If you astral project, or engage in mind reading, or whatever psychic spiritual act, then you have delved into witchcraft which must and is certainly associated with demons.



Lets not be deceived. Astral projection is evil and if anyone has practiced this before, the person would need to cut off ties with demons. Those ties need to be cut off even if the person has become born again or else there'll be serious problems.


God bless you vooks and everyone contributing on this.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by nnamdiosu(m): 11:28am On Jan 20, 2016
dazzle101:


Yes indeed.

The eye was apparently in the front of my head, say the fore head precisely. I believe that's what's referred to as the third eye which could only be open by some spiritual guidance and not something we have invoke @will. I used the expression big bright eye because my two physical eyes compared to it felt smaller and the vision it exuded was really clearer than the normal.


good. now i understand enough to give a little addition to what vooks said.
1. from your narration i suspect you have indulged with or read astral projections books or practises.

2. in as much as you are now a christain, right?........ i believe those issues are still lurking around for you to deal with.

3. unknown to some people, being a christain doesnt stop those demons from still being around (they are called power demons)

4. if no 1 and 2 above is correct, then you simply need a deliverance ession. note that you can carry it out yourself. dry fast and intensive prayer asking God to purge you, renouncing those powers and doing away with them materials. specifically ask the blood of Jesus to purge you. use the blood as a primarily weapon. God will see you through you hear?

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by analice107: 12:00pm On Jan 20, 2016
vooks:


Thank you beloved siz.
As Pentecostalism was hitting Western countries in the 20th century, Eastern Mysticism was also making inroads. From the West both of these came to Africa. So one does not need to study Asian and Indian books, we have far too many purveyors of Westernized Eastern religions like Lampa and Depak Chopra.

Eastern Mysticism is at its base antiChristian. See while in Christianity we have fallen man, weak man who needs God(Jesus) to condescend to his level to save him, Eastern mysticism is all about a strong man, it's about tapping into some latent power in man. In short, Eastern religions are inward looking while Christianity is outward looking.

A culture that has not encountered Christianity or Judaism is not going to turn to God. They are lost regardless of how innocent they practice their religion. This was Paul's encounter on Mar's Hill. It's why God drove away the inhabitants of Canaan. It's also why African religions are incompatible with Christianity.

Back to your experience. THIRD EYE is certainly not Christian. This rules out your experience as being of God. Secondly, even the instances we see in the scriptures what we may call out of body experiences, they are totally spiritual, they have a goal, usually to receive revelation from God. They are not just wild spiritual tourism.

What to do?
First, discard eastern mysticism and New Age literature. In Acts 19:19, they burned very expensive magic books after they met Christ.

Secondly, do not practice those exercises they teach there, transcendental meditation, Yoga,acupuncture and so forth.

Thirdly, you need to pray and fast and ask God to sever any ties you may have created through these books and exercises.

Finally, should such experiences visit upon you, you need to take your position as a believer. You have authority. Resist them in the mighty name of Jesus Christ

One thing that is clear to me is even in our sleep we are still Christians. So we should not participate in ungodly stuff just because it is in a dream. And if we do, the first thing after waking up is renouncing them.

Anas09,CHARLYG1 anything else to add?

Good morning and God Bless my Siblings here. Both senior and junior.

Hello Dearest vooks.
I laughed when you mentioned me. What do I know? Anyways, you mentioned me, so let me try giving my thought.
What happened to her was not a dream. Her experience is similar to what I read in 'The Doctor From Lama', also by Rampa. That's also because she has done a stint on that sphare. I think what happened there is a case of a force trying to establish a presence (howbeit, unsolicited) or confuse her into thinking this can also be a revelation from the Holy Spirit. And get her to seek to know more, then before long, she will be here preaching a message with a Christian nuance.
Like Eckhart Tolle's 'The Power of Now'. A confusing message. A New age, Eastern religious message, resembling the gospel of Christ, which indeed is not.

If my sister's spirit was not in tune with the Holy Spirit, She would have believed something, and the birth of something new to would have been born. Because it was an experience like this which gave birth to Eckhart Tolle's teachings.
Unfortunately for the force, her subconciuosness is already hintched on another force which is the Holy Spirit. If she was without the knowledge of how the Holy Spirit operates, she would have woken up believing she had a revelation from God, from which a new teaching will be born.

I remember one time, I met a Christian Scientist. Mehn,these guys can be intelligent. That guy was smart. I was drawn to him because of that. He thought he had seen a convert, so, he started this vague talk that was Christian but not really clear. And I tried to lay what he kept saying with what the gospel teaches, everything was just bouncing around.
Ah, Satan is smart, but God is smarter.
There are so many youths who are fascinated by this writings, and the result is what we see today in the case of the NairaLand Atheists. Teenagers running around without any real understanding, shouting there's no God, because there have read a book like "The Power of Now" .
I read the 'Cave of the Ancient' as a child, I didn't understand it much. Then I Read "The Third Eye" that was when I almost delved into Ocultism. I followed the instructions on Astral projections. I don't know what happened, but I stopped half way, stoned the book on the wall, and ran out of the house screaming. Thank God I was alone, as instructed, if not, someone would thought, I had gone insane.
Then I read 'The Doctor From Lama', as an adult.
Hahahahahahahaha, those guys are subtle, and satanically smart. They teach their stuff, but subtly throw in stuff which should make you doubt the Christian God. And if you don't know the scriptures, all you'll have is what they teach you. At this point, all you'll have is questions, and no matter what anyone says, your mind is made up. It was very fascinating how you by yourself can get everything done. They have answers to everything or so it seems. Lol. Satan. Only there's no Satan there, nierher is there God as we know them.

I was curious about Astral projections. Then someone asked a question, in the book, if anything could be taken from that realm to this realm, the answer was No. At that point I lost interest. What's the point of it then, if I can't bring anything from there to here? It was later on, I discovered they borrowed their meditation tricks from the Bible, but threw in some lies for good measure.

Satan saw that, she is tilting more towards godliness, he came in with a lie.

Like you said, my dear vooks. It is dangerous for Christians, especially young and growing Christians to keep taps with these things.
Discard all information linking to these teachings. If not, the ephesians would ve kept their crafts, and arts, but they burnt all up.
God is on our side.

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 2:51pm On Jan 20, 2016
nnamdiosu:



good. now i understand enough to give a little addition to what vooks said.
1. from your narration i suspect you have indulged with or read astral projections books or practises.

2. in as much as you are now a christain, right?........ i believe those issues are still lurking around for you to deal with.

3. unknown to some people, being a christain doesnt stop those demons from still being around (they are called power demons)

4. if no 1 and 2 above is correct, then you simply need a deliverance ession. note that you can carry it out yourself. dry fast and intensive prayer asking God to purge you, renouncing those powers and doing away with them materials. specifically ask the blood of Jesus to purge you. use the blood as a primarily weapon. God will see you through you hear?


Thanks a lot sir. I appreciate the time n contribution.

However I do remember having such a session for myself sometime back in 2013 during my youth service days.

There was a particular book of Rebecca Brown's that talked about how contact with these books could open one up for demon possession to which she said the solution was a deliverance session. Which of course I took seriously and did.

However I do believe a concious or unconscious act of coming in contact with any such literature could eventually make a door way for repossession. In the interim I'm tryna think it's my curiosity to reading one or two funny posts of these funny atheists on here NL that might have contributed somewhat, to which I vowed eventually not reading any of such threads if the title has nothing to do with teaching more abt spirituality and how to become better involved with God.

To this end, now I know what should be done I would do the needful.

Thanks so much again for your insightful additon.


Between thanks for mentioning self deliverance cos I don't like any such deliverance session where someone has to put their hands on another. As we cannot really tell the spirit moving whoever the deliverer. Infact it's been advised to as much as possible prevent anyone frm laying hands on us carelessly as it's another means to input demons straight into the unsuspecting victim. Hence I frown @d practise. I have had one such experience where I went for a supposed deliverance session and the result was a very wicked fearful dream that somewhat spelled a kinda funny setting I was so upset when I woke up and linked the cause directly to that hand laid on me the day before. Got really angry in my spirit n prayed n fasted to rid myself of any impurities.

Anyways that's my reason and my question is it right or wrong for hands to be laid on a person's head for deliverance, bearing in mind it could either liberate or enrope further.


Bro Charles, sis analice, kindly step in here.

Thanks

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Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 2:58pm On Jan 20, 2016
No I haven't wilfully tried the astral projection, it was never a point of call.

To me was only reading to gain knowledge of the mystic supposedly(not knowing it wasn't worth it) am a very curious creature of God, ask too many questions cos I want to know too much for my own good. When I realised the truth behind these things I stopped reading those texts n asked the Holy Spirit to take over. Have totally forgotten abt any such thing cos I know it's part of satan's ploy to expose the inexperienced man to deceit just like with the case of Adam n Eve.

Hence please I stand to correct the impression I astral travelled. Never have n never will save God defined and initiated.
I just decided to seek other opinions as I already asked Analice and she gave her opinion which perfectly tallies with all I'm reading from you all currently.

Loooool those crazy books can make u believe stuff shaaaa

Thanks again everyone for contributing.

I'm not the type to really detail my experiences on social media, known for a fact cos I hardly make any much comments on here, doesn't mean I don't have questions or nothing to add, especially prefer to pm someone or don't @all but I'm thankful @the level of response I'm getting, bless you guys a mil. Now I feel I have a duty to share experiences whenever I can n contribute substantially should the need arise

Shallom to all
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by nnamdiosu(m): 6:03pm On Jan 20, 2016
dazzle101:



Thanks a lot sir. I appreciate the time n contribution.

However I do remember having such a session for myself sometime back in 2013 during my youth service days.

There was a particular book of Rebecca Brown's that talked about how contact with these books could open one up for demon possession to which she said the solution was a deliverance session. Which of course I took seriously and did.

However I do believe a concious or unconscious act of coming in contact with any such literature could eventually make a door way for repossession. In the interim I'm tryna think it's my curiosity to reading one or two funny posts of these funny atheists on here NL that might have contributed somewhat, to which I vowed eventually not reading any of such threads if the title has nothing to do with teaching more abt spirituality and how to become better involved with God.

To this end, now I know what should be done I would do the needful.

Thanks so much again for your insightful additon.


Between thanks for mentioning self deliverance cos I don't like any such deliverance session where someone has to put their hands on another. As we cannot really tell the spirit moving whoever the deliverer. Infact it's been advised to as much as possible prevent anyone frm laying hands on us carelessly as it's another means to input demons straight into the unsuspecting victim. Hence I frown @d practise. I have had one such experience where I went for a supposed deliverance session and the result was a very wicked fearful dream that somewhat spelled a kinda funny setting I was so upset when I woke up and linked the cause directly to that hand laid on me the day before. Got really angry in my spirit n prayed n fasted to rid myself of any impurities.

Anyways that's my reason and my question is it right or wrong for hands to be laid on a person's head for deliverance, bearing in mind it could either liberate or enrope further.


Bro Charles, sis analice, kindly step in here.

Thanks


sweet heart there is nothing wrong with the laying of hands on believers. the bible says in 1st Tim that Paul told timothy to be mindful of the spiritual gifts that were deposited in him through THE LAYING OF HANDS BY THE elders. what one has to be MINDFUL of is WHO IS DOING THE LAYING OF HANDS. God bless you.
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by Nobody: 6:07pm On Jan 20, 2016
nnamdiosu:



sweet heart there is nothing wrong with the laying of hands on believers. the bible says in 1st Tim that Paul told timothy to be mindful of the spiritual gifts that were deposited in him through THE LAYING OF HANDS BY THE elders. what one has to be MINDFUL of is WHO IS DOING THE LAYING OF HANDS. God bless you.


Looooooooool okay.

The individual conducting is the determining factor.

Thanks a mil nnam
Re: Seeing Demons, Angels, Fallen Angels, Spirits.. - Hsp's by analice107: 6:31pm On Jan 20, 2016
vooks:


Thank you beloved siz.
As Pentecostalism was hitting Western countries in the 20th century, Eastern Mysticism was also making inroads. From the West both of these came to Africa. So one does not need to study Asian and Indian books, we have far too many purveyors of Westernized Eastern religions like Lampa and Depak Chopra.

Eastern Mysticism is at its base antiChristian. See while in Christianity we have fallen man, weak man who needs God(Jesus) to condescend to his level to save him, Eastern mysticism is all about a strong man, it's about tapping into some latent power in man. In short, Eastern religions are inward looking while Christianity is outward looking.

A culture that has not encountered Christianity or Judaism is not going to turn to God. They are lost regardless of how innocent they practice their religion. This was Paul's encounter on Mar's Hill. It's why God drove away the inhabitants of Canaan. It's also why African religions are incompatible with Christianity.

Back to your experience. THIRD EYE is certainly not Christian. This rules out your experience as being of God. Secondly, even the instances we see in the scriptures what we may call out of body experiences, they are totally spiritual, they have a goal, usually to receive revelation from God. They are not just wild spiritual tourism.

What to do?
First, discard eastern mysticism and New Age literature. In Acts 19:19, they burned very expensive magic books after they met Christ.

Secondly, do not practice those exercises they teach there, transcendental meditation, Yoga,acupuncture and so forth.

Thirdly, you need to pray and fast and ask God to sever any ties you may have created through these books and exercises.

Finally, should such experiences visit upon you, you need to take your position as a believer. You have authority. Resist them in the mighty name of Jesus Christ

One thing that is clear to me is even in our sleep we are still Christians. So we should not participate in ungodly stuff just because it is in a dream. And if we do, the first thing after waking up is renouncing them.

Anas09,CHARLYG1 anything else to add?

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