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Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by Nobody: 9:31pm On Feb 02, 2016
dhsfbi:
I know that Sir, but it carries the most delegate throughout the country. No President wins the white house without iowa
Actually, the last two Republican nominees for President didn't win the Iowa caucus. Also, in 1992, Bill Clinton came 4th in the caucus.
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by Nobody: 9:41pm On Feb 02, 2016
Missy89:


That will probably happen! Rubio is the establishment's choice now
Kasich, Bush, Christie, and Fiorina would likely drop out after NH. The only obstacle to Rubio's path is the Super Tuesday. Most southern states hold thier primaries on that day, and Rubio isn't as popular as Ted Cruz or Trump in those states.
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by Miami11: 9:42pm On Feb 02, 2016
Hilary for president

I support a Cruz/ Hilary match
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by uniklinkum(m): 9:43pm On Feb 02, 2016
Missy89:
A coin toss victory is not convincing . She still got this thou

Fxxxk how can she win 6 coin tosses. F***k establishment politics, f***k wall street thugs, f***k financial speculators,f***k big pharmaceutical thieves and health insurance crooks. On the mission of saving the nation vote Sanders for potus...
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by uniklinkum(m): 9:46pm On Feb 02, 2016
The Iowa caucus was a big head up for team Sanders. A whopping plus 32 from figures at the beginning of the campaign trail. Come get your a55 whipped at NH madam.
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by uniklinkum(m): 9:46pm On Feb 02, 2016
Miami11:
Hilary for president

I support a Cruz/ Hilary match

Hilary gat too many stains on to beat em gop thugs. Team Sanders for life.

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Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by genuinechimere(m): 9:52pm On Feb 02, 2016
If US presidential elections were to be a movie, it would be a box office hit
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by Missy89(f): 10:09pm On Feb 02, 2016
uniklinkum:
The Iowa caucus was a big head up for team Sanders. A whopping plus 32 from figures at the beginning of the campaign trail. Come get your a55 whipped at NH madam.

A win in new NH wont help Sanders much. Demographics favors him in the Iowa, NH ,Vermont and maybe Massachusetts and Minnesota. That unfortunately is not enough to win the nomination. Hilary will start slaughtering him from the 20th and by the end of Super Tuesday, His momentum will be out of steam.
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by UPDISTIC7: 10:25pm On Feb 02, 2016
Before you declare Hillary winner, Remember she and Sen. Sanders her closest rival had close ties, The US system cannot just declare her winner. wait till the official result comes out. Anyway I know she will still win.
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by uniklinkum(m): 10:28pm On Feb 02, 2016
Missy89:


A win in new NH wont help Sanders much. Demographics favors him in the Iowa, NH ,Vermont and maybe Massachusetts and Minnesota. That unfortunately is not enough to win the nomination. Hilary will start slaughtering him from the 20th and by the end of Super Tuesday, His momentum will be out of steam.

But you won't deny the fact of a growing momentum. And popularity with liberals and first time voters. The socialism drive and the against establishment mantra will drive this campaign. We don't collect wall street money, we don't do super pac and the only candidate not going for attacks. Sensible plans on climate change. Hillary can keep attacking for all I care, the raising momentum will clear her off the polls.
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by muteeu(m): 10:31pm On Feb 02, 2016
when it end of the world, u will see females will become boss/ ruler
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by Nobody: 10:43pm On Feb 02, 2016
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Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by Missy89(f): 10:53pm On Feb 02, 2016
uniklinkum:


But you won't deny the fact of a growing momentum. And popularity with liberals and first time voters. The socialism drive and the against establishment mantra will drive this campaign. We don't collect wall street money, we don't do super pac and the only candidate not going for attacks. Sensible plans on climate change. Hillary can keep attacking for all I care, the raising momentum will clear her off the polls.

Militant Bernie supporters are living in virtual reality. First, His key base ( young voters) are very unreliable. Secondly, his plans are great but it is very unlikely to happen because he is unlikely to have the congress, even if he does, most democrats are not that far left. The revolution needs to start in the legislative not the executive branch of government if you want real reforms. Even if he becomes president which is highly unlikely, all his great ideas will be watered down. Obama who had few radical plans barely got 60% of his policies implemented.
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by uniklinkum(m): 11:03pm On Feb 02, 2016
Missy89:


Militant Bernie supporters are living in virtual reality. First, His key base ( young voters) are very unreliable. Secondly, his plans are great but it is very unlikely to happen because he is unlikely to have the congress, even if he does, most democrats are not that far left. The revolution needs to start in the legislative not the executive branch of government if you want real reforms. Even if he becomes president which is highly unlikely, all his great ideas will be watered down. Obama who had few radical plans barely got 60% of his policies implemented.


Yeah but the young voters did it for Obama years ago.. his plans are so realistic cos he won't be detered by establishment people and lobbyists organization, they have no impact in his making. What happened to veto power in shaping the legislative into shape. Funny enough most developing countries have been able to implement most of Sanders ideas with no ish.. Germany and Finland on free tuition, Holland on decriminalization of marijuana and smaller prisons. Let watch and see as the roller coaster goes. This is about the middle class and the real people standing up against those blackmailing them with lower wages and threatening them on moving operations to China and India.
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by nairamaniac: 11:04pm On Feb 02, 2016
I'm a big fan of the entire Clinton family. Bill was my best President ever. I even had a crush on their daughter called Chelsea.
but I HV my reservations towards a woman handling the most powerful office in the world.
women allow their emotions affect their decisions.
a female president Clinton can decide to throw bombs into Iraq cause she's seeing her period.
she could sentence a convict to electric chair because her husband didn't give her a good f**k that morning.
she could declare war on Isis because bill Clinton had a fling with Monica Lewinsky.

Men are not like that. women are more emotionally-erratic.
Well, I hope she wins, but we should all prepare to be afraid while she occupies the OVAL OFFICE.
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by gokuu(m): 11:05pm On Feb 02, 2016
Missy89:

Militant Bernie supporters are living in virtual reality. First, His key base ( young voters) are very unreliable. Secondly, his plans are great but it is very unlikely to happen because he is unlikely to have the congress, even if he does, most democrats are not that far left. The revolution needs to start in the legislative not the executive branch of government if you want real reforms. Even if he becomes president which is highly unlikely, all his great ideas will be watered down. Obama who had few radical plans barely got 60% of his policies implemented.
Absolutely, Hillary remains the top choice. Sanders could not even deliver a victory in a state that is so strongly tailored to his strengths. Iowa democrats are 91% white, 43% identify as pure socialists (not just liberals) and the small size of the state allowed him campaign with ease in the urban centres. These stats should look great on paper for a lefty like Sanders, yet he lost it. He will likely win extremely white-NH but as the race goes down south, Hillary will deliver the KO punch.
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by raayah(f): 11:06pm On Feb 02, 2016
uniklinkum:


Fxxxk how can she win 6 coin tosses. F***k establishment politics, f***k wall street thugs, f***k financial speculators,f***k big pharmaceutical thieves and health insurance crooks. On the mission of saving the nation vote Sanders for potus...

Bernie Also won coin tosses, I guess we only see what we want to see
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by uniklinkum(m): 11:07pm On Feb 02, 2016
raayah:


Bernie Also won coin tosses, I guess we only see what we want to see

How and which Bitte frau raayah....
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by raayah(f): 11:08pm On Feb 02, 2016
uniklinkum:


Yeah but the young voters did it for Obama years ago.. his plans are so realistic cos he won't be detered by establishment people and lobbyists organization, they have no impact in his making. What happened to veto power in shaping the legislative into shape. Funny enough most developing countries have been able to implement most of Sanders ideas with no ish.. Germany and Finland on free tuition, Holland on decriminalization of marijuana and smaller prisons. Let watch and see as the roller coaster goes. This is about the middle class and the real people standing up against those blackmailing them with lower wages and threatening them on moving operations to China and India.

Obama also had 95% of the black vote
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by raayah(f): 11:09pm On Feb 02, 2016
uniklinkum:


How and which Bitte frau raayah....
.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmkFYuUf6kY
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by uniklinkum(m): 11:10pm On Feb 02, 2016
raayah:


Obama also had 95% of the black vote

And have you factored in the narratives appealing to labor unions and middle class peeps...
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by Nobody: 11:12pm On Feb 02, 2016
uniklinkum:
The Iowa caucus was a big head up for team Sanders. A whopping plus 32 from figures at the beginning of the campaign trail. Come get your a55 whipped at NH madam.
Unfortunately for Sanders, NH will be his last will be his last major victory in the primaries. Clinton will win 47 other states, and garner a majority of the delegates from those states, while uncle Bernie's only other win will be in Vermont.
Bernie's low polling numbers amongst women and ethnic minorities will be his undoing.
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by gokuu(m): 11:12pm On Feb 02, 2016
uniklinkum:

Yeah but the young voters did it for Obama years ago.. his plans are so realistic cos he won't be detered by establishment people and lobbyists organization, they have no impact in his making. What happened to veto power in shaping the legislative into shape. Funny enough most developing countries have been able to implement most of Sanders ideas with no ish.. Germany and Finland on free tuition, Holland on decriminalization of marijuana and smaller prisons. Let watch and see as the roller coaster goes. This is about the middle class and the real people standing up against those blackmailing them with lower wages and threatening them on moving operations to China and India.
Sanders is selling the impossible. Republicans control the house by more than 50 seats. Congressional districts are so gerrymandered that it's almost impossible for democrats to win control anytime soon. The senate is also republican, even if democrats reclaim some liberal senate seats, they won't have the 60 votes needed to get anything done in the US senate. The last time democrats had 60 senate seats was when Obamacare was passed and even that was contentious. Most of those senators have been wiped out as well.
Sanders is not a brave truth-teller. Hillary can deliver in reality.
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by gokuu(m): 11:16pm On Feb 02, 2016
CFCman:

Unfortunately for Sanders, NH will be his last will be his last major victory in the primaries. Clinton will win 47 other states, and garner a majority of the delegates from those states, while uncle Bernie's only other win will be in Vermont.
Bernie's low polling numbers amongst women and ethnic minorities will be his undoing.
Not necessarily. Sanders will be viable in states like Rhode Island, Delaware, Maine, Vermont and a host of others. They just won't be enough.
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by uniklinkum(m): 11:19pm On Feb 02, 2016
CFCman:

Unfortunately for Sanders, NH will be his last will be his last major victory in the primaries. Clinton will win 47 other states, and garner a majority of the delegates from those states, while uncle Bernie's only other win will be in Vermont.
Bernie's low polling numbers amongst women and ethnic minorities will be his undoing.

Yadas brov... Most of y'all ain't telling the simply truth.. and forget how an underdog from virtual on double digit loss polling records before the caucus manage to brave up a technical draw. How about your media establishment and pro nuts guys calling on a shrinking of Clinton figures. It will only stun y'all like sci-fi movie.
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by uniklinkum(m): 11:21pm On Feb 02, 2016
gokuu:

Sanders is selling the impossible. Republicans control the house by more than 50 seats. Congressional districts are so gerrymandered that it's almost impossible for democrats to win control anytime soon. The senate is also republican, even if democrats reclaim some liberal senate seats, they won't have the 60 votes needed to get anything done in the US senate. The last time democrats had 60 senate seats was when Obamacare was passed and even that was contentious. Most of those senators have been wiped out as well.
Sanders is not a brave truth-teller. Hillary can deliver in reality.

How is impossible to make things work in a nation that boast to be the most powerful in the world. How is it hard to tell the 1% holding everyone to ransom for there unjustified greed. I thought the Senate were not in agreement with the Iranian deal too but it's all story today...feelthebern brother...
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by Nobody: 11:23pm On Feb 02, 2016
gokuu:

Not necessarily. Sanders will be viable in states like Rhode Island, Delaware, Maine, Vermont and a host of others. They just won't be enough.
He will pick up delegates in those and other states, but Secretary Clinton will wrap up the nomination before June.
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by Nobody: 11:26pm On Feb 02, 2016
uniklinkum:


Yadas brov... Most of y'all ain't telling the simply truth.. and forget how an underdog from virtual on double digit loss polling records before the caucus manage to brave up a technical draw. How about your media establishment and pro nuts guys calling on a shrinking of Clinton figures. It will only stun y'all like sci-fi movie.
I salute Sander's effort in Iowa, but unless his polling numbers improve in the southern states and other big cosmopolitan states, I see Hillary clinching the nomination. Even if both candidates are tied, with respect to pledged delegates, the super-delegates are overwhelming endorsing Hillary.
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by uniklinkum(m): 11:28pm On Feb 02, 2016
CFCman:

I salute Sander's effort in Iowa, but unless his polling numbers improve in the southern states and other big cosmopolitan states, I see Hillary clinching the nomination. Even if both candidates are tied, with respect to pledged delegates, the super-delegates are overwhelming endorsing Hillary.

Let watch the drama unfolds it was worst for Obama in the run up to the 08 polls.

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Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by Nobody: 11:31pm On Feb 02, 2016
Hillary is also the first woman in history to win the Iowa caucus in either major party!
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by Nobody: 11:34pm On Feb 02, 2016
uniklinkum:


Let watch the drama unfolds it was worst for Obama in the run up to the 08 polls.
I'll be watching keenly.
One thing I know is that the establishment in both parties will eventually decide who the nominees would be. All these noise from the Tea Party and Liberals is just initial gra-gra. The TP made the same noise in 2011/12, but the moderate Romney emerged as the Repub nominee.
Clinton winning SIX coin-tosses yesterday isn't totally a coincidence. I smell some rigging..
Re: Hillary Clinton Declared Victory In Iowa Caucus by gokuu(m): 11:35pm On Feb 02, 2016
uniklinkum:

How is impossible to make things work in a nation that boast to be the most powerful in the world. How is it hard to tell the 1% holding everyone to ransom for there unjustified greed. I thought the Senate were not in agreement with the Iranian deal too but it's all story today...feelthebern brother...
Conduct of foreign policy is usually an executive thing. There was no bill regarding lifting of sanctions that went through congress. Republicans would have blocked it. You seem to think there's a consensus in America. There isn't one. Obama won huge victories in 2008 yet republicans blocked everything they could block. Sanders "political revolution" where he has everyone falling in line with his agenda is a pipe dream.

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