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Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:35am On Mar 20, 2016
We need to start having a clearer picture of who God truly is and how he reveals Himself to man


There are several references to the throne of God in the Bible. Jesus calls heaven “God’s throne” in Matthew 5:34, recalling God’s statement in Isaiah 66:1, “Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool.” Other references to God’s throne are found in 2 Chronicles 18:18; Psalm 11:4; Hebrews 8:1; 12:2; Revelation 1:4; 3:21; 4:2; and many other verses.

A throne is a special seat reserved for a monarch. When the Bible speaks of God’s “throne,” the emphasis is on God’s transcendence, dignity, and sovereign rule. The fact that His throne is in heaven further underscores the transcendent nature of God’s existence.

The throne of God need not be thought of as a literal throne. God the Father is incorporeal (John 4:24). Not having a physical body, God does not literally “sit.” References to a divine throne are akin to biblical allusions to God’s “hand” or “mouth” or “eyes”—they are anthropomorphisms, descriptions of God couched in human terms out of deference to our limited knowledge. God has to describe Himself in ways we can understand.

Isaiah sees the Lord “high and exalted, seated on a throne; and the train of his robe filled the temple” (Isaiah 6:1). At that time, the prophet was having an inspired vision. God’s throne (and His robe) are not to be taken as literal, physical objects. Rather, God was communicating to Isaiah the magnificence, splendor, and exaltation of His Being. Other descriptions of the throne of God are found in other prophetic visions, e.g., in those of Ezekiel and John.

God’s throne is a place of power and authority. In 2 Chronicles 18:18, the prophet Micaiah relates his vision of God’s throne room, in which spirit beings stand in attendance. Compare this to Job 1:6, where God demands answers from the angelic beings summoned there.

God’s throne is a place of majesty and honor. The Bible says that, when Jesus ascended to heaven, He “sat down at the right hand of the throne of God” (Hebrews 12:2). There is no higher place than heaven. God is the King of heaven, and Jesus holds the place of honor at God’s right hand.

God’s throne is a place of perfect justice. “He has prepared His throne for judgment” (Psalm 4:7; cf. 89:14). The final judgment, described in Revelation 21, is held before “a great white throne” (verse 11).

God’s throne is a place of sovereignty and holiness. “God reigns over the nations; God is seated on his holy throne” (Psalm 47:8; cf. 103:19). He does whatever He pleases, and all He does is good.

God’s throne is a place of praise. John’s vision of heaven includes a scene in which a “new song” is sung in praise to the One who occupies the throne (Revelation 14:3). Around the throne, the praise of God is surely “glorious” (Psalm 66:2).

God’s throne is a place of purity. Only the redeemed, those who have been granted the righteousness of Christ, will have the right to stand before His throne (Revelation 14:5).

God’s throne is a place of eternal life. God is the Source of life. In heaven, John sees “the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb” (Revelation 22:1).

God’s throne is a place of grace. Not only does the throne of God represent judgment for the unbeliever, but it also represents mercy and grace for His children. “Let us then approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need” (Hebrews 4:16). Inside the Jewish temple was the Ark of the Covenant, which was a “copy of the true” (Hebrews 9:24), and it had a “mercy seat” where God’s presence would appear (Leviticus 16:2, ESV).

One day, all creation will bow to the majesty of God’s throne (Philippians 2:9–11). The regal beings surrounding the throne of God will “lay their crowns before the throne and say: ‘You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power’” (Revelation 4:10–11).[/quote]

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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by orunto27: 3:50am On Mar 20, 2016
And I saw a Man burning Angels. I walked up to Him and asked whether He knew what He was doing. He said He was burning BAD ANGELS. That is His Throne of Judgement! He sat surrounded by 24 Elders, 4 living creasures, a Lamb that looked like He was slain. That is His Throne of Grace, of Righteousness, of Sovereignty and His T.O.(Table of Organisation) Revelation. Have you ever received something, a gift in your dream? That is from His Throne of Blessing and of Favours(His Store). Just to mention a few Thrones out of the many that are inside the all embracing, encompassing and composite Heaven, The Main Throne of the AlMighty. Thanks for your info. Happy Sunday!!!!
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by Nobody: 4:51am On Mar 20, 2016
You are right about the attributes of the throne. The difference here being that unlike earthly thrones made of wood and metal and ivory, the heavenly throne is made of spiritual things that are powers in their own right. Everything that comes close to God just lives. There is no death in whatever form with Him. There is no inanimate objects with God. They cannot stand before Him.

I consider it a kingly throne which Kings also act as judges. It's no different with God.

That's why am not in agreement that the throne is not literal. The spirit real is not without order and God is a King. Not just in name. He rules over the principalities. The Principalities HAVE Their Own thrones Too....


Ezekiel 26:16 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Then all the princes of the sea shall come down from their thrones, and lay away their robes, and put off their broidered garments: they shall clothe themselves with trembling; they shall sit upon the ground, and shall tremble at every moment, and be astonished at thee.


Daniel 7:9 |
I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

Remember when Moses was making the temple, he reportedly saw a similar temple in heaven. He was replicating what existed already. The throne of mercy covered with cherubim was a replica of something he had seen,

Hebrews 8:5 |
Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

The same temple John wrote about;

Revelation 11:19 |
And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament...,

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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by Flexherbal(m): 5:34am On Mar 20, 2016
God is everywhere.

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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by Nobody: 8:05am On Mar 20, 2016
@ kingebukasblog but the bible said jesus will sit on the right hand side of God the father.
Where exactly will he sit?

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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:11am On Mar 20, 2016
Muafrika2:
You are right about the attributes of the throne. The difference here being that unlike earthly thrones made of wood and metal and ivory, the heavenly throne is made of spiritual things that are powers in their own right. Everything that comes close to God just lives. There is no death in whatever form with Him. There is no inanimate objects with God. They cannot stand before Him.

I consider it a kingly throne which Kings also act as judges. It's no different with God.

That's why am not in agreement that the throne is not literal. The spirit real is not without order and God is a King. Not just in name. He rules over the principalities. The Principalities HAVE Their Own thrones Too....


Ezekiel 26:16 | View whole chapter | See verse in context
Then all the princes of the sea shall come down from their thrones, and lay away their robes, and put off their broidered garments: they shall clothe themselves with trembling; they shall sit upon the ground, and shall tremble at every moment, and be astonished at thee.


Daniel 7:9 |
I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

Remember when Moses was making the temple, he reportedly saw a similar temple in heaven. He was replicating what existed already. The throne of mercy covered with cherubim was a replica of something he had seen,

Hebrews 8:5 |
Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

The same temple John wrote about;

Revelation 11:19 |
And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament...,

Thank You brother for your good contribution . But you realise that God communicates and reveals Himself to man in ways he would understand . Plus sitting is for a physical being - comfort , rest , relief etc and God is a spirit being and he's abode is in the immaterial realm
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by plaetton: 8:19am On Mar 20, 2016
The Tooth fairy has a magical wand too, but I am not sure if it's a literal wand or a euphemism for his/her magical $1- giving power and authority.

Kingebukasblog, what do you think ?
grin

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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by Nobody: 8:21am On Mar 20, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Thank You brother for your good contribution . But you realise that God communicates and reveals Himself to man in ways he would understand . Plus sitting is for a physical being - comfort , rest , relief etc and God is a spirit being and he's abode is in the immaterial realm
I agree. There is that aspect of God being indefinite. And as the poster said above, He is every where. But out of that reality of God being inseparable from the Universe we are able to define Him as a being. We can even define him as one in a trinity, being part of it and inseparable at the same time.

The same with his throne. It's in my spirit, in His temple in the heavens and above all gods and principalities, and seen by many prophets. Let's remove from it the limitations of time and also the limitations of space, even of human possibilities and impossibilities. Both your perception and mine are on point.

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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by plaetton: 8:24am On Mar 20, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


But you realise that God communicates and reveals Himself to man in ways he would understand .

Yeah sure, like the Bible.
Yes indeed, we sure do understand the Bible, God's word.
We understand it sooo much so that we decided to have dozens of versions, and then argue, fight and kill ourselves over which version is the SIMPLER truer truth.

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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:26am On Mar 20, 2016
ShyNeptune:
@ kingebukasblog but the bible said jesus will sit on the right hand side of God the father.
Where exactly will he sit?

Good question bro . I wanted to include that too but somehow I let it pass .

Jesus is a member of the Godhead and so he came down to earth in human form , conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit - another member of the Godhead .

So Mark 16 : 19
19So then, when the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God

means that Jesus returned to His glory as God - equal position, honor, power and authority with God(Yahweh) because they are one . He has fulfilled his mission on earth and has returned to take his position of divinity

So "right hand of God" just means equal rank , position , glory , honour , majesty . And the fact that Christ is "sitting" refers to the fact that His work of redemption is done and when the fullness of the gentiles is brought in, Christ's enemies will be made His footstool as the end of the age comes, all prophecy is completed, and time is no more.

cc : lalasticlala

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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:30am On Mar 20, 2016
plaetton:


Yeah sure, like the Bible.
Yes indeed, we sure do understand the Bible, God's word.
We understand it sooo much so that we decided to have dozens of versions, and then argue, fight and kill ourselves over which version is the SIMPLER truer truth.

A part of a title is "dealing with misconceptions ..." - there are lots of things we believe that are not true as Christians and they need to be discussed so we can properly understand the truth that lies in the figurative words/statements in the bible .

A popular one is "Who created God " lipsrsealed When the bible says He is eternal - no beginning , no end cool

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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:31am On Mar 20, 2016
plaetton:
The Tooth fairy has a magical wand too, but I am not sure if it's a literal wand or a euphemism for his/her magical $1- giving power and authority.

Kingebukasblog, what do you think ?
grin

Well who believes magic tricks and performances happen without a magician cool

wink

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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by Nobody: 8:32am On Mar 20, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Good question bro . I wanted to include that too but somehow I let it pass .

Jesus is a member of the Godhead and so he came down to earth in human form , conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit - another member of the Godhead .

So Mark 16 : 19


means that Jesus returned to His glory as God - equal position, honor, power and authority with God(Yahweh) because they are one . He has fulfilled his mission on earth and has returned to take his position of divinity

So "right hand of God" just means equal rank , position , glory , honour , majesty . And the fact that Christ is "sitting" refers to the fact that His work of redemption is done and when the fullness of the gentiles is brought in, Christ's enemies will be made His footstool as the end of the age comes, all prophecy is completed, and time is no more.

cc : lalasticlal.a
So it wasn't literal? Cool smiley
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by plaetton: 8:36am On Mar 20, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


A part of a title is "dealing with misconceptions ..." - there are lots of things we believe that are not true as Christians and they need to be discussed so we can properly understand the truth that lies in the figurative words/statements in the bible .

A popular one is "Who created God " lipsrsealed When the bible says He is eternal - no beginning , no end cool

My point is this, if for example, you substituted Toothfairy for God in your posts, and then keep repeating it, would it change the universe, would it change you or would it change your perceptions about the universe?

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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:45am On Mar 20, 2016
plaetton:


My point is this, if for example, you substituted Toothfairy for God in your posts, and then keep repeating it, would it change the universe, would it change you or would it change your perceptions about the universe?

Well I wouldn't do that in the first place .
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by Nobody: 9:15am On Mar 20, 2016
yeah, he has a throne. our hearts. That's his throne.
after all the Bible states that heaven is within us.
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by plaetton: 9:18am On Mar 20, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Well I wouldn't do that in the first place .

Again , that's part of my point.

For fear of what ?

For fear that it might alter the universe, alter your God's nature, alter you or alter your perceptions of the universe ?
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:25am On Mar 20, 2016
plaetton:


Again , that's part of my point.

For fear of what ?

For fear that it might alter the universe, alter your God's nature, alter you or alter your perceptions of the universe ?

grin

Afraid of what ?

Its like asking me to see or susbstitue the name "silver" for gold or ruby for diamond . Why should I do that ?

Or wait ... are you now afraid that magic needs a magician and you have been illogical all these while

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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:30pm On Mar 20, 2016
Truth be told

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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by paschu: 1:14pm On Mar 20, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Thank You brother for your good contribution . But you realise that God communicates and reveals Himself to man in ways he would understand . Plus sitting is for a physical being - comfort , rest , relief etc and God is a spirit being and he's abode is in the immaterial realm

Seriously, I think it's noble for humans to seek to know God. Yet I'm sure it's futile for us to want to have a perfect understanding of Him. Why? Because it's perfectly normal for humans not to have a perfect understanding of God. And even at the perfection of human nature we will still NEED an eternal dose of FAITH to relate with the Soverign God. So let's stop this generalization and human-driven interpretaions of the nature and attributes of God. That's why Paul warns about the danger of going beyond what is written. Let's allow the Holy Spirit do His job at INDIVIDUAL LEVEL not all these canned inertpretations trying to impose mass acceptance. God the Father is the One who is the SOURCE and SUSTAINER of ALL shades of eternity and dynamism. So, since He lives outside eternity and dynamisn how do we ever hope to interprete Him accurately with our finite and calculable intelligence?

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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:37pm On Mar 20, 2016
paschu:


Seriously, I think it's noble for humans to seek to know God. Yet I'm sure it's futile for us to want to have a perfect understanding of Him. Why? Because it's perfectly normal for humans not to have a perfect understanding of God. And even at the perfection of human nature we will still NEED an eternal dose of FAITH to relate with the Soverign God. So let's stop this generalization and human-driven interpretaions of the nature and attributes of God. That's why Paul warns about the danger of going beyond what is written. Let's allow the Holy Spirit do His job at INDIVIDUAL LEVEL not all these canned inertpretations trying to impose mass acceptance. God the Father is the One who is the SOURCE and SUSTAINER of ALL shades of eternity and dynamism. So, since He lives outside eternity and dynamisn how do we ever hope to interprete Him accurately with our finite and calculable intelligence?

You mean stating clearly what is written in the bible for all to see is wrong
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by paschu: 1:46pm On Mar 20, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Good question bro . I wanted to include that too but somehow I let it pass .

Jesus is a member of the Godhead and so he came down to earth in human form , conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit - another member of the Godhead .

So Mark 16 : 19


means that Jesus returned to His glory as God - equal position, honor, power and authority with God(Yahweh) because they are one . He has fulfilled his mission on earth and has returned to take his position of divinity

So "right hand of God" just means equal rank , position , glory , honour , majesty . And the fact that Christ is "sitting" refers to the fact that His work of redemption is done and when the fullness of the gentiles is brought in, Christ's enemies will be made His footstool as the end of the age comes, all prophecy is completed, and time is no more.

cc : lalasticlala


You see this is what I'm talking about. No matter how hard we try we CANNOT both scripturally and reasonably prove the Godhead is made up of eqaul and separate entities at the same time.

You know what makes sense to ME? It's the ASSUMPTION that God is NOT eqaul to single personality identifier. The word GOD (to me) is an attribute that describes the NATURE of an entity and IS NOT the actual name of that entity.

For example, the word "man" descrbes the maleness of both a father and his son. In other words, a fully grown son is "equally" a man just as his father is. But their equality in manhood does not make a son EQUAL to his father in the family ranks.

Bringing it back to the topic, I think the Lord Jesus Christ is "equally" God in nature just as YAWH is. But still My Lord Jesus Himself is NOT equal to the Soverign Father. In fact speaking in the Gospel of John, the Lord Jesus himself said this: (Joh 14:28) "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I"

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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by oyeludef(m): 1:47pm On Mar 20, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Thank You brother for your good contribution . But you realise that God communicates and reveals Himself to man in ways he would understand . Plus sitting is for a physical being - comfort , rest , relief etc and God is a spirit being and he's abode is in the immaterial realm
bro, muafrica answered you very well im his initial post. God expressly warned moses to make sure he replicated the pattern of what he showed him. In d ark of covenant, there was a mercy seat signifying the throne of God and Cherubims signifying the Cherubims around the throne which was exactly what ezekiel saw in ezekiel chapter 1. In dat same chapter, ezekiel saw God sitting on a throne and from d next chapter, God began to speak to him.
Do not forget that there is also going to b a great white throne judgment

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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by paschu: 1:51pm On Mar 20, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


You mean stating clearly what is written in the bible for all to see is wrong

Okay, if I get you correctly, you meant to say that YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL does NOT have confidence in the Bible. Is that right?
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:54pm On Mar 20, 2016
paschu:



You see this is what I'm talking about. No matter how hard we try we CANNOT both scripturally and reasonably prove the Godhead is made up of eqaul and separate entities at the same time.

You know what makes sense to ME? It's the ASSUMPTION that God is NOT eqaul to single personality identifier. The word GOD (to me) is an attribute that describes the NATURE of an entity and IS NOT the actual name of that entity.

For example, the word "man" descrbes the maleness of both a father and his son. In other words, a fully grown son is "equally" a man just as his father is. But that does not make a son EQUAL to his father.

Bringing it back to the topic, I think the Lord Jesus Christ is "equally" God in nature just as YAWH is. But still My Lord Jesus Himself is NOT equal to the Soverign Father. In fact speaking in the Gospel of John, the Lord Jesus himself said this: (Joh 14:28) "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father:for my Father is greater than I"


This is a blatant show of Arianism ! Jesus was talking of his dual nature - being human and divinity . So that explains why Jesus said the father is greater than he is

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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:56pm On Mar 20, 2016
paschu:


Okay, if I get you correctly, you meant to say that YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL does NOT have confidence in the Bible. Is that right?

No , Im simply dispelling misconceptions most Christians have . Though the thread is open for discussions , I am yet to see cogent reasons why I am holding an erroneous stance on this matter
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:59pm On Mar 20, 2016
oyeludef:
bro, muafrica answered you very well im his initial post. God expressly warned moses to make sure he replicated the pattern of what he showed him. In d ark of covenant, there was a mercy seat signifying the throne of God and Cherubims signifying the Cherubims around the throne which was exactly what ezekiel saw in ezekiel chapter 1. In dat same chapter, ezekiel saw God sitting on a throne and from d next chapter, God began to speak to him.
Do not forget that there is also going to b a great white throne judgment

http://www.gotquestions.org/great-white-throne-judgment.html
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by paschu: 2:04pm On Mar 20, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


This is a blatant show of Arianism ! Jesus was talking of his dual nature - being human and divinity . So that explains why Jesus said the father is greater than he is


I am not denying the divinity of Christ. I am only saying what the Bible teaches, which is the fact that even in divinity, there is what you may reffer to as heiarachy or ranks. And if you still want to insist that the Son is equal to the Father, how then would you explain the following scripture:

1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by Charlesdock(m): 2:09pm On Mar 20, 2016
Registered cool
Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:38pm On Mar 20, 2016
paschu:


I am not denying the divinity of Christ. I am only saying what the Bible teaches, which is the fact that even in divinity, there is what you may reffer to as heiarachy or ranks. And if you still want to insist that the Son is equal to the Father, how then would you explain the following scripture:

1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

You are making an error here bro . If you see Yahweh as higher in rank then you have three different gods each having different ranks - that's heretical . Remember to uphold the truth of the trinity , you have to understand that they are one in every aspect - divinity , rank , glory , honour , supremacy etc .

This excerpt offered the best explanation

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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by orisa37: 2:43pm On Mar 20, 2016
Literally? Yes. As in Isaiah and Revelation.

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Re: Dealing With Misconceptions : Does God Literally Have A Throne ? Find Out Here by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:56pm On Mar 20, 2016
orisa37:
Literally? Yes. As in Isaiah and Revelation.

No bro

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