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Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by 247notire(m): 10:23am On Mar 22, 2016
NobleAngell:
And u think the guy doesn't have a mother? Be realistic pls. What if u are d guys father and u knw somehow that your son is being accused of something he isn't totally guilty of? U guys should open your eyes to reality. Nowadays, what a 14yr old child knows, u didn't knw at 27. Trust me.
My God! Are you for real? A fourteen year old is still a child before the law! How hard before this sinks into your obstinate cranium? Its only in the Moslem world that it is the other way round and Ese is not a muslim for crying out loud.

You deserve to be punched in the mouth for your callous statements.

Nawaa o, some people reason through their vagina sha undecided

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Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by Akinto70: 10:24am On Mar 22, 2016
They should allow the jury to do their work jor.
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by emamos: 10:31am On Mar 22, 2016
247notire:
Bla bla bla. Maybe I should say "may your daughter pass through Ese's ordeal and may people view it in the same light as you do hers"

Ozu rere ere angry
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by saintdennis(m): 10:31am On Mar 22, 2016
LadyExcellency:


There should be a clear difference between "the accused is presumed innocent until proven guilty" and "free until guilty verdict is pronounced by a competent court".

So, Yellow is not guilty yet while Nnamdi Kalu is guilty and is likely to commit the same crime if granted bail as pronounced by a Judge?

There is disparity in the these two decisions were pronounced and certainly one or both Judges are being tele-guilded.

Bail is a right to an extent until guilty verdict is pronounced by a competent court. However, the application should be universal without external influence.

Bro stop trivialising, tribalising and above all politicising matters.

Nnamdi kanu made terroristic threats to thus is a national security risk) after all he has proven his resourcefulness by having a working radio station spewing seperatists propaganda pls Google Rwanda and see how it all started.

The yinusa dude is just a dude mixed up with a girl he claims wilfully agreed to everything and in line with his culture and tradition he took her as a wife bla bla bla.

Now the prosecution and defence will try to prove their case. Bla bla bla

As per bail...is it bad if he gets to sleep comfortably whilst battling the case instead of in poor conditions? After all its not a murder case.

The bail conditions are fair, if he can c 3m, and the 2 sureties no p. He can't run away #fact.

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Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by heysquare(m): 10:40am On Mar 22, 2016
hypocritism is killing us in ds country. there r many Ese dat end up in baby factories no one fight for dat because its seen as d king's ram ate d king's yam but if its another region it becomes a crime. yes, if Yinusa go to jail, wud Ese child be calling child of holyman or ex convict? parent need to go back to our traditional school of disciplines (where it takes two to av a child and it take the whole community to raise d child) used in dose days til 90s before we fully adopted scientific discipline from oyinbos. not only girl child needs to be caution, d boy child needs double cautions cos their one strike is raise to power ten.

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Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by ODUBEZE: 10:44am On Mar 22, 2016
otokx:
The accused does not have any international passport to deposit. He may just take a stroll into Niger and from there enter Sudan. Our justice system needs to wake up from their slumber. The prosecution too should wake up.
in that case the sureties will be held accountable
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by BraniacX(m): 10:45am On Mar 22, 2016
NobleAngell:
And u think the guy doesn't have a mother? Be realistic pls. What if u are d guys father and u knw somehow that your son is being accused of something he isn't totally guilty of? U guys should open your eyes to reality. Nowadays, what a 14yr old child knows, u didn't knw at 27. Trust me.

that other guy totally figured you right, your thoughts are disturbing coming from a woman and the more you talk the more you disgust us, let's assume like you claim that esse chose to run away with yellow, yellow is 21, ease is 14, what does the Nigerian constitution say about this scenario? didn't it occur to you that by our "secular" laws esse doesn't have the right to make that decision for herself without her parents consent and since she doesn't have that right she can't be held accountable under the law but any adult who aids and abetts that decision by her without parental consent has commited a crime under our law and if that said adult is sexually involved with her the crime becomes paedophilia? if you claim you don't know that then consider yourself educated but if you know and say it doesn't matter, please when your daughter turns 13 or maybe 12 surrender her custody to the nearest illiterate imam run quaranic school so that she can freely express her love to any randy paedophile yinusa or yellow available and don't forget to encourage her, afterall, there's nothing wrong with it undecided
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by rusher14: 10:48am On Mar 22, 2016
MadCow1:



What circumstances?

The Emir is not involved. He gave his ruling that the girl be released to her parents from the very first day that matter was brought to his attention so why are you insistent on dragging the Emir's name in the mud?

Every criminal granted bail has the ability to be a flight risk so why should Yinusa be treated any differently? angry


I hate the double standards you are advocating be used for this case.

Two men of the 6 involved in raping those teenagers in Ebonyi, one of whom later died in the hospital were granted bail, why should Yinusa be treated worse than them?


Because he is a northerner.

Some set of people now hate the northerners because:

They succeeded in ousting their favourite adopted son

They are Muslims and for them all Muslims are haram

They are APC whilst the bitter are PDP, APGA, KOWA, or even the defunct SDP. Maybe even a faction within APC

They are against the very essence of IPOB, MASSOB and I go disturb.

The hate in Nigeria has become endemic no thanks to dishonest politicians, half-baked education, immature use of social media. As well as the celebration of hate speech from Christian and Muslim clerics, Boko Haram and rogue radio networks such as that Nnamdi Kanu operates.

The fuse has been set and we are all waiting for the fallout . If we are lucky, the fuse was damp to begin with or the ordnance simply a dud.

We can only try to mitigate it with the right words and action right NOW.

We have to take action.

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Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by 4reala(m): 10:48am On Mar 22, 2016
And why is d girl still putting on the hijab or wat do dey call it?
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by ireneidiva(f): 10:49am On Mar 22, 2016
authority2006:
They don't want him to be bailed just for allowing a teenager to elope with him. Funny. Is it not a bailable offence again? Or just because Yunusa is Hausa, muslim and a Northerner, he should be treated differently? When you guys wake up to the reality of the damage that baby factories are are doing to your girl teenagers, let me know instead of wasting unnecessary energies on this one which is negligible compares to the large scale destruction of girl minors caused by flourishing baby factories.
Please how on earth is this negligible? What kind of human being are you?
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by LadyExcellency: 10:56am On Mar 22, 2016
Mike008:


From a Biafran point of view - Yes!

But thats not how bail works, moreover the facts in both cases are not the same. Even if they were, the court can still choose not to grant bail. It's a matter of discretion which should be exercised judicially and judiciously.

With your pro-biafran attributes, you already sound like its a bad move granting Nnambi Kalu bail.

From Islamic Fundamentist point of view, you're correct.

Poor you.

Anyway, my opinion still stand. Nnamdi Kanu never inflicted any harm on any Nigerian or to Nigeria hence all you assumptions are borne out of hate hence misguided.
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by 100Cents: 10:56am On Mar 22, 2016
ziccoit:
If Dasuki, Methu, Dokpesi etc could be granted bail how much more ordinary abductor? I won't be surprised if Yinusa eventually gets a slap on the wrist.

Ordinary abductor.

You have magnified money above human life.. The funds mismanaged by Dasuki cannot buy one human life.
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by todayguest(m): 11:05am On Mar 22, 2016
Do these parents have a thought for their unborn grandchild?
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by ziccoit: 11:06am On Mar 22, 2016
100Cents:


Ordinary abductor.

You have magnified money above human life.. The funds mismanaged by Dasuki cannot buy one human life.

skymaxnig:

May God forgive you for calling a crime as serious as Abduction ordinary.....

Guys, the girl in question illegally eloped with a stup1d adult who should have known better.

Dasuki, Methu, Dokpesi etc involved in embezzlement of money meant for security as a result of which thousands have died. With this fact, the court in the name of rule of law still found them worthy of being granted bail. How much more Yinusa whose crime hasn't led to the death of anyone.Remember the girl here is still alive and kicking!
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by mrphysics(m): 11:06am On Mar 22, 2016
247notire:
Lol. This man. How are profs CMI Okoye and AOE Animalu doing? What of Prof Chukwude? He was my project supervisor in those days. Hope Prof PN Okeke is still around too? Cheers smiley
Wow, they are all fine. PN Okeke is now an Emeritus Professor. Prof Chukwude is good. I left school last month after my convocation, how is life sir.
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by NobleAngell(f): 11:33am On Mar 22, 2016
BraniacX:


that other guy totally figured you right, your thoughts are disturbing coming from a woman and the more you talk the more you disgust us, let's assume like you claim that esse chose to run away with yellow, yellow is 21, ease is 14, what does the Nigerian constitution say about this scenario? didn't it occur to you that by our "secular" laws esse doesn't have the right to make that decision for herself without her parents consent and since she doesn't have that right she can't be held accountable under the law but any adult who aids and abetts that decision by her without parental consent has commited a crime under our law and if that said adult is sexually involved with her the crime becomes paedophilia? if you claim you don't know that then consider yourself educated but if you know and say it doesn't matter, please when your daughter turns 13 or maybe 12 surrender her custody to the nearest illiterate imam run quaranic school so that she can freely express her love to any randy paedophile yinusa or yellow available and don't forget to encourage her, afterall, there's nothing wrong with it undecided
My dear there's no need to get aggressive. Lets have a mature argument. So wait are u saying Ese was under a spell? Do u know what went on behind close doors? And u talk of constitution, how many people even knw what the constitution says? Did u know what the constitution says when u were 21? Is it Yunusa that will know that under the law, ESE is underage and whatever decision she takes is just out of childishness? Have u tot of d possibility that maybe and I repeat maybe he is just as ignorant as she is?
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by aishmuhd(f): 11:39am On Mar 22, 2016
Poverty is the causes of most evils. Mama Ese why are u pretending as if Yunusa was never known to u? from d story so far, u sell food & Yunusa a potential & very important customer. Ese helped in d shop, love started mayb Yunusa has bn forfeiting his some some change for her. mama Ese yur first story, u said Yunusa threatened to runway wit Ese why didn't u report him to police then........ make we dey fear God oooh.

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Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by 247notire(m): 11:50am On Mar 22, 2016
mrphysics:

Wow, they are all fine. PN Okeke is now an Emeritus Professor. Prof Chukwude is good. I left school last month after my convocation, how is life sir.
We thank God bro. Life is good by his grace.
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by BraniacX(m): 12:02pm On Mar 22, 2016
NobleAngell:
My dear there's no need to get aggressive. Lets have a mature argument. So wait are u saying Ese was under a spell? Do u know what went on behind close doors? And u talk of constitution, how many people even knw what the constitution says? Did u know what the constitution says when u were 21? Is it Yunusa that will know that under the law, ESE is underage and whatever decision she takes is just out of childishness? Have u tot of d possibility that maybe and I repeat maybe he is just as ignorant as she is?
am not being aggressive its just that your arguments are very disappointing given your gender and i assume, your maturity. since you now tacitly agree with me on what the law says and the only possible interpretation and outcome if the law is followed to the letter, let's talk about ignorance, when has that ever been an excuse in the eyes of the law? undecided yinusa's ignorance will prove too costly for him and an example to others, so you want him to be forgiven for being ignorant about our Nigerian laws while being conscious and knowledgeable of the parallel Islamic laws that permit the crime up north, Islamic laws whose protection he sought and fled to and had esse converted to to make it legal under that same Islamic law? right! undecided not gonna happen! why didn't he run away with esse to just his own residence within that locality since it was all about childish love? why all the way to kano? do you know what it feels like as a parent for your teenage daughter to disappear suddenly without trace or warning message? I pray you never find out. whether esse was hypnotized, placed under a spell or not is irrelevant here since she can not be held accountable for running away with her childhood crush under the law but yinusa being 21 is an adult and is culpable under the law period!
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by Mike008(m): 12:06pm On Mar 22, 2016
LadyExcellency:


From Islamic Fundamentist point of view, you're correct.

Poor you.

Anyway, my opinion still stand. Nnamdi Kanu never inflicted any harm on any Nigerian or to Nigeria hence all you assumptions are borne out of hate hence misguided.

"Muslim Fundamentalist".
You are funny. Which Muslim bears Mike?
That only proves your opinion smacks of sentiments and any dissenting opinion no matter how objective pitches me in the other tent.
I don't argue with people like you whose mentality has been impoverished by tribal or religious sentiments. You can be unteachable.

What I said was a matter of law, and wasn't borne out of any affiliation with group, tribe or body, unlike you.

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Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by 247notire(m): 12:15pm On Mar 22, 2016
mrphysics:

Wow, they are all fine. PN Okeke is now an Emeritus Professor. Prof Chukwude is good. I left school last month after my convocation, how is life sir.
My email here isn't functional bro. You can quote one of my many obscure posts let's talk there.
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by 247notire(m): 12:17pm On Mar 22, 2016
BraniacX:

am not being aggressive its just that your arguments are very disappointing given your gender and i assume, your maturity. since you now tacitly agree with me on what the law says and the only possible interpretation and outcome if the law is followed to the letter, let's talk about ignorance, when has that ever been an excuse in the eyes of the law? undecided yinusa's ignorance will prove too costly for him and an example to others, so you want him to be forgiven for being ignorant about our Nigerian laws while being conscious and knowledgeable of the parallel Islamic laws that permit the crime up north, Islamic laws whose protection he sought and fled to and had esse converted to to make it legal under that same Islamic law? right! undecided not gonna happen! why didn't he run away with esse to just his own residence within that locality since it was all about childish love? why all the way to kano? do you know what it feels like as a parent for your teenage daughter to disappear suddenly without trace or warning message? I pray you never find out. whether esse was hypnotized, placed under a spell or not is irrelevant here since she can not be held accountable for running away with her childhood crush under the law but yinusa being 21 is an adult and is culpable under the law period!
Guy, leave that girl. She must have issues with her medulla oblongata. Look at my posts with her quoted. She's terribly demented as evidenced by her assertions.

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Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by LadyExcellency: 12:18pm On Mar 22, 2016
Mike008:


"Muslim Fundamentalist".
You are funny. Which Muslim bears Mike?
That only proves your opinion smacks of sentiments and any dissenting opinion no matter how objective pitches me in the other tent.
I don't argue with people like you whose mentality has been impoverished by tribal or religious sentiments. You can be unteachable.

What I said was a matter of law, and wasn't borne out of any affiliation with group, tribe or body, unlike you.


It's enough. Don't quote my comments again, mind your rabid business.

Bye
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by 100Cents: 12:29pm On Mar 22, 2016
ziccoit:




Guys, the girl in question illegally eloped with a stup1d adult who should have known better.

Dasuki, Methu, Dokpesi etc involved in embezzlement of money meant for security as a result of which thousands have died. With this fact, the court in the name of rule of law still found them worthy of being granted bail. How much more Yinusa whose crime hasn't led to the death of anyone.Remember the girl here is still alive and kicking!

Has Dasuki been granted bail ?
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by ziggy1702(m): 12:42pm On Mar 22, 2016
i really dont see why the accuse cannot be granted bail people are just trying to over sensationalise the court ruling........ and by the way does anybody notice ese still wearing hibab its like this girl is still in love with the islamic culture o
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by Nnabugwu8590: 12:47pm On Mar 22, 2016
Hmmm
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by Nnabugwu8590: 1:04pm On Mar 22, 2016
ziccoit:
If Dasuki, Methu, Dokpesi etc could be granted bail how much more ordinary abductor? I won't be surprised if Yinusa eventually gets a slap on the wrist.

Let me add this, since some guys seem not to understand my line of reasoning:
****Dasuki, Methu, Dokpesi etc involved in embezzlement of money meant for security as a result of which thousands have died. With this fact, the court in the name of rule of law still found them worthy of being granted bail. How much more Yinusa whose crime hasn't led to the death of anyone.Remember the girl here is still alive and kicking!*****
My dear, don't you think that you are partial in your above statement.
Why didn't you include Nnamdi Kanu? Or is his case not bailable?
Why didn't you include Ibrahim El-Zakzaky
(the shitee leader)? or is his case not bailable?
Note: My argument with you is based on the angle of rule of justice.
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by Otapipia: 1:12pm On Mar 22, 2016
amtaken:
Truly the crime in the instant case is a bailable offence, however, the circumstances of the case warrants that the accused be remanded in custody while the trial lasts. The case is very sensitive in nature and many Muslim big wigs eg the Emir of Kano are indirectly involved. They may attempt to shield the accused from attending the court for his trial. The accused can even travel out of the country with a new passport and new identity. He can even choose to trek through the border and Sahara Desert as most of them do.

The judge acted as if he's been compromised.

We are watching....
I quite disagree with you. The first question which is wether the offence is bailable is no doubt a very emphatic yes. To say the judge was compromised is not fair. You are not privy to the contents of the affidavits accompanying both the bail application and the response file by the prosecution.

The court will only act on facts and material presented by parties. If you're a lawyer, you should know that an accused remains innocent until proven guilty. Denying an accused bail while standing trial for a bailable offence is not justice, it's punitive.

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Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by Nnabugwu8590: 1:27pm On Mar 22, 2016
Otapipia:

I quite disagree with you. The first question which is wether the offence is bailable is no doubt a very emphatic yes. To say the judge was compromised is not fair. You are not privy to the contents of the affidavits accompanying both the bail application and the response file by the prosecution.

The court will only act on facts and material presented by parties. If you're a lawyer, you should know that an accused remains innocent until proven guilty. Denying an accused bail while standing trial for a bailable offence is not justice, it's punitive.
I love your argument.
However, why is it that rule of law in Nigeria is not functional to everybody?
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by mrphysics(m): 1:29pm On Mar 22, 2016
247notire:
My email here isn't functional bro. You can quote one of my many obscure posts let's talk there.
okay sir
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by amtaken(f): 1:34pm On Mar 22, 2016
In deciding whether or not to grant bail, the court will consider a number of factors, including: 


1.The nature and seriousness of the crime.

2.The character of the defendant, his past criminal record, associations and ties with the community
3.The defendants recorded in regard to his previous commitments to bail conditions
4.The strength of the evidence against the defendant 
. I refer to Bail Act 1976.

Factor 1 talks about the nature and seriousness of the offence. In the instant case, the offence for which the accused is charged for is such a heinous offence, the type that is rapidly gaining ground in our society and if not curbed will lead to a lot of disaster in our nation as a whole.

We are talking about abduction, rape, illicit sexual intercourse with a minor. It is a very serious offence not only against the victims but also against her family especially her parents and the society at large.

Imagine a situation whereby minors who should be in school and under parental care are exposed to sexual slavery.
Every reasonable man on the street ought to know that perpetrators of such offences are are dangerous to their victims and the society at large.



Factor 4 talks about the strength of the evidence against the defendant:
The defendant has confess to the offences he was charged for and the circumstantial evidence and the eye witnesses evidence tendered in court show that indeed the accused committed the offences. The minor whom he raped is even pregnant and he admitted that he's responsible for the pregnancy.

From the factors 1 and 4 above, it is my considered legal opinion that the accused should be remanded in prison custody during his trial.

Thank you.


Otapipia:

I quite disagree with you. The first question which is wether the offence is bailable is no doubt a very emphatic yes. To say the judge was compromised is not fair. You are not privy to the contents of the affidavits accompanying both the bail application and the response file by the prosecution.

The court will only act on facts and material presented by parties. If you're a lawyer, you should know that an accused remains innocent until proven guilty. Denying an accused bail while standing trial for a bailable offence is not justice, it's punitive.
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by adebayoggt(m): 1:56pm On Mar 22, 2016
sentiment is been added to all this matter. the offense is bailable if the conditions set by d court could be met.
Ese's issue is more of bad parenting and teenage flares.the mother knew d guy and gave too much room for their interactions.
the mother feign ignorance because d matter gets our of hand.the father is only playing his fatherly role.

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