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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 2:01pm On Jun 16, 2016
Fully expect nothing less than 13 points in our first 5 games!!

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisooblog: 2:18pm On Jun 16, 2016
egbon you still haven't answered the question why his royal 6thness couldn't score a single goal in a good 9 international senior football tournaments abi na jayjay dribble am wey he no sabi where net dey?

why does okocha need to impress in underage tournaments when he has done more than enough in senior football

psg na third rate abi?

all these top clubs went for kanu you keep mentioning was he ever a key player who led them to cups and league titles? at ajax litmenam, deboer brothers, finidi, overmars were the main men. at arsenal henry, bergkamp, viera were the reasons they were called invincibles. where was kanu in all this? as usual chopping popcorn on the bench please tell me how kanu is any different from nikky butt, ramires, wes brown etc bit part players who also won major trophies with their clubs

african footballer of the year african footballer of the year diouf wey win 2 african footballer of the year nobody puts him in the pantheon of african greats so why should kanus dodgy awards move me.

at least dangote is number one in africa


sleekdot:


Shebi Okocha sef played the same Under aged competition in 1996, How come Kanu was the player of the tournament, African footballer of the year and 6th in the whole world? while everyone forgot Okocha. Okocha was even older than Kanu in 96 yet he was so useless that no one even remembered him or his performance

Okocha even played U21 for Nigeria, how come he never won on the merit of his underage competition performance

Kanu was 6th in the whole world. How many African players have ever achieved that high level before. If any child finish 6th in the whole world of 6billion people then his name should be engraved in gold.

You say 6th in the whole world is nothing, then tell us Okochas ever highest in the world

If anyone would criticize Dangote for being 6th richest man in the world, It shouldnt be a man whose name didnt even make it to top 100

You didnt notice that Kanu played but FIFA noticed, CAF noticed, Inter Milan noticed. The Okocha you noticed who did he epp? No be 3rd rate clubs like Frankfurt, Fenerbahce and Bolton dey follow you dey notice am
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by JayKayMaybachz(m): 2:26pm On Jun 16, 2016
Meh una dhey argue


Meanwhile cry cry

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sleekdot(m): 2:44pm On Jun 16, 2016
chrisooblog:
egbon you still haven't answered the question why his royal 6thness couldn't score a single goal in a good 9 international senior football tournaments abi na jayjay dribble am wey he no sabi where net dey?

why does okocha need to impress in underage tournaments when he has done more than enough in senior football
psg na third rate abi?

all these top clubs went for kanu you keep mentioning was he ever a key player who led them to cups and league titles? at ajax litmenam, deboer brothers, finidi, overmars were the main men. at arsenal henry, bergkamp, viera were the reasons they were called invincibles. where was kanu in all this? as usual chopping popcorn on the bench please tell me how kanu is any different from nikky butt, ramires, wes brown etc bit part players who also won major trophies with their clubs

african footballer of the year african footballer of the year diouf wey win 2 african footballer of the year nobody puts him in the pantheon of african greats so why should kanus dodgy awards move me.

at least dangote is number one in africa

Okocha impressed so much at senior level that he couldnt win ordinary African footballer of the year which Diouf and Adebayor won for fun

As at when Okocha went to PSG they were 2nd rate in Europe usually finishing midtable in the french league.

Kanu didnt score in major tournament for Nigeria but he was a legend at his clubs which made him Africas best twice while Okocha cant even win once.

95/96 Kanu led Ajax attack and led them to the CL finals has Okocha ever played CL knockout before? Of course not, Serious clubs dont associate with unserious ball jugglers

Kanu was number 1 in Africa like Dangote, while Okocha is like the poor civil servant who claims he was more brlliant that Dangote in school but never recognized anywhere outside his village

If Okocha isnt playing in relegation threatened Hull, Bolton Frankfurt he is dancing azonto on the field while serious coaches are ignoring him and facing Kanu
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sleekdot(m): 2:48pm On Jun 16, 2016
Joke Hart
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 2:53pm On Jun 16, 2016
Joe Hart at fault now....but England have been really poor..slow passing,no intelligent runs,Rooney making senseless long passes that day Welsh defense use to re organise demselves,sterling a useless home sapien..lallanA has been their only light but too much touches..In fact England is a useless team
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 2:53pm On Jun 16, 2016
England the champions of friendlies grin



@elampiro, competition proper don start not those 100% friendlies and qualifiers you praise them for.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 2:55pm On Jun 16, 2016
sterling stock Don fall finish. maybe pep go save am.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:00pm On Jun 16, 2016
I fully expected England to flop lai dis after i saw their Euro squad. That Hodgson is just anoda useless manager
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:02pm On Jun 16, 2016
JayKayMaybachz:
Meh una dhey argue


Meanwhile cry cry
Lmao. Sometimes u just ve to wonder how some people were allowed to graduate from whatever school they attended.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisooblog: 3:04pm On Jun 16, 2016
okocha was atleast playing relegation threatened teams while kanu went a step further and relegated such teams (portsmouth)

it's not every great african player that has won footballer of the year, eg aboutrieka, essien, finidi etc so i can excuse okocha's own

exactly if football small weights like adebayor and diouf can win who is kanu to move me

psg as of that period was still one of the biggest teams in france so them signing jayjay was a big deal or you think psg is an acronym for salvation army wanting to dash fenebarche free money? like saying ac milan is a 2nd rate just because they are currently struggling

dangote is number one in africa based on facts and figures kanu's is based on judgments of sentimental journalists and armchair observers


sleekdot:


Okocha impressed so much at senior level that he couldnt win ordinary African footballer of the year which Diouf and Adebayor won for fun

As at when Okocha went to PSG they were 2nd rate in Europe usually finishing midtable in the french league.

Kanu didnt score in major tournament for Nigeria but he was a legend at his clubs which made him Africas best twice while Okocha cant even win once.

95/96 Kanu led Ajax attack and led them to the CL finals has Okocha ever played CL knockout before? Of course not, Serious clubs dont associate with unserious ball jugglers

Kanu was number 1 in Africa like Dangote, while Okocha is like the poor civil servant who claims he was more brlliant that Dangote in school but never recognized anywhere outside his village

If Okocha isnt playing in relegation threatened Hull, Bolton Frankfurt he is dancing azonto on the field while serious coaches are ignoring him and facing Kanu
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 3:08pm On Jun 16, 2016
chrisley024:
England the champions of friendlies grin



@elampiro, competition proper don start not those 100% friendlies and qualifiers you praise them for.

Hodgson is the problem. This just showed that experience matters. Ali and Kane who barely played qualifying matches are favoured as starters instead of Barkely and Sturridge who have been helping the team for years.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 3:13pm On Jun 16, 2016
elampiro:


Hodgson is the problem. This just showed that experience matters. Ali and Kane who barely played qualifying matches are favoured as starters instead of Barkely and Sturridge who have been helping the team for years.

kale is d best striker in England hence do golden boot..barkely would have started instead of Rooney...besides that 433 he started with won't favour any of d strikers
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 3:16pm On Jun 16, 2016
England?? Smh
Azzurri for life
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 3:17pm On Jun 16, 2016
varDy...looks like offside tho
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sleekdot(m): 3:20pm On Jun 16, 2016
chrisooblog:
okocha was atleast playing relegation threatened teams while kanu went a step further and relegated such teams (portsmouth)

it's not every great african player that has won footballer of the year, eg aboutrieka, essien, finidi etc so i can excuse okocha's own

exactly if football small weights like adebayor and diouf can win who is kanu to move me

psg as of that period was still one of the biggest teams in france so them signing jayjay was a big deal or you think psg is an acronym for salvation army wanting to dash fenebarche free money? like saying ac milan is a 2nd rate just because they are currently struggling

dangote is number one in africa based on facts and figures kanu's is based on judgments of sentimental journalists and armchair observers

Kanu played at league winners Arsenal, Ajax etc where was Okochas best team?

PSG was a midtable club when they signed Okocha at the moment AC Milan is a mid table Italian club just like at the moment Liverpool is a mid table English club

If you've not won the best in your continent how can you call yourself the best, Okocha would be mates with the like of Lua Lua in players who cant win the African player of the year

Kanu was number in Africa two times and 6th in the whole world

A level too high for Okocha to attain

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 3:25pm On Jun 16, 2016
dubylhover:
varDy...looks like offside tho
The ball came off the head of the welsh defender
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 3:33pm On Jun 16, 2016
sleekdot:

If you've not won the best in your continent how can you call yourself the best, Okocha would be mates with the like of Lua Lua in players who cant win the African player of the year

Not getting involved in this debate however two quick questions. What about Essien? Would you put him in the same league as Lua lua since He never won the African player of the year? Also was Kanu greater than Essien since He won the award twice and Essien never did?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sleekdot(m): 3:40pm On Jun 16, 2016
chic2pimp:
Not getting involved in this debate however two quick questions. What about Essien? Would you put him in the same league as Lua lua since He never won the African player of the year? Also was Kanu greater than Essien since He won the award twice and Essien never did?

Essien played for a top club that was featuring in CL semi and finals and was sought by top clubs while Okocha like Lua Lua their level were lower level clubs and in Turkey

Kanu was greater than Essien. Kanu was once the 6th best player in the world I doubt Essien ever made top 10.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisooblog: 3:42pm On Jun 16, 2016
correction bench warmer at league winners arsenal, ajax etc

historically ac milan is a great club historically liverpool is a great club. today today if napoli and ac milan bid for the same player the guy would choose ac milan. if champions league football wasn't involved mahrez would take a pay cut to join liverpool

great players get recognized even despite the awards pele recognized jayjay so who cares about some no name caf selectors no living soul has ever thought it wise to include kanu in any best ever 11 list omo she o a whole world number 6 for that matter


if that level means being a bench warmer and failing to score a single goal in 9 major senior international tournaments then you right that is not his level

sleekdot:


Kanu played at league winners Arsenal, Ajax etc where was Okochas best team?

PSG was a midtable club when they signed Okocha at the moment AC Milan is a mid table Italian club just like at the moment Liverpool is a mid table English club

If you've not won the best in your continent how can you call yourself the best, Okocha would be mates with the like of Lua Lua in players who cant win the African player of the year

Kanu was number in Africa two times and 6th in the whole world

A level too high for Okocha to attain
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 3:50pm On Jun 16, 2016
sleekdot:


Essien played for a top club that was featuring in CL semi and finals and was sought by top clubs while Okocha like Lua Lua their level were lower level clubs and in Turkey

Kanu was greater than Essien. Kanu was once the 6th best player in the world I doubt Essien ever made top 10.

Can I also say Owen was greater than the likes of Pirlo,Xavi?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sleekdot(m): 3:54pm On Jun 16, 2016
chrisooblog:
correction bench warmer at league winners arsenal, ajax etc

historically ac milan is a great club historically liverpool is a great club. today today if napoli and ac milan bid for the same player the guy would choose ac milan. if champions league football wasn't involved mahrez would take a pay cut to join liverpool

great players get recognized even despite the awards pele recognized jayjay so who cares about some no name caf selectors no living soul has ever thought it wise to include him in any best ever 11 list omo she o a whole world number 6 for that matter

if that level means being a bench warmer and failing to score a single goal in 9 major senior international tournaments then you right that is not his level

Kanu played over 30 games in 95/96 for Ajax same in Arsenal 99/2000 season

Let me ask if City and liverpool bid for the same player who would the player choose?

Pele also recognized Godwin Okpara we know how he ended, He recognized Lamptey we knew how he ended

Kanu #6 in the world at his best Okocha did he even make top 100

Kanu chosen by big clubs and coaches, Okocha chosen by the likes of Frankfurt, Bolton Fenerbahce and Hull The best comparison to Okocha would be Lua Lua he is also known for his senseless stepovers and dribbles wey no epp anyone
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sleekdot(m): 3:55pm On Jun 16, 2016
chic2pimp:
Can I also say Owen was greater than the likes of Pirlo,Xavi?

Pirlo and Xavi led their teams to multiple CL wins, World cup wins. How many times did Owen lead his team to CL and world cup wins?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 3:59pm On Jun 16, 2016
England wins it. Good Roy learned from his last match mistake. A team with 3 strikers on the bench and you leave them on the bench while looking for a win. Who does that?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chic2pimp(m): 4:04pm On Jun 16, 2016
sleekdot:


Pirlo and Xavi led their teams to multiple CL wins, World cup wins. How many times did Owen lead his team to CL and world cup wins?

Football is a team game. However as an Individual, He has achieved more..He was once voted Europe's best
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisooblog: 4:12pm On Jun 16, 2016
ajax inspite of kanu would always have won the dutch league then they were that dominant. that season wetin arsenal win? when wenger came to his senses and benched his azz arsenal started winning trophies

liverpool, ac milan and psg (in the 90s) whatever ever their status are pedigree teams

did godwin okpara or lamptey ever do much for their national teams?

chosen by big clubs and coaches to warm bench pray tell how's kanu any different from bosingwa, shaqiri and danilo?

sleekdot:


Kanu played over 30 games in 95/96 for Ajax same in Arsenal 99/2000 season

Let me ask if City and liverpool bid for the same player who would the player choose?

Pele also recognized Godwin Okpara we know how he ended, He recognized Lamptey we knew how he ended

Kanu #6 in the world at his best Okocha did he even make top 100

Kanu chosen by big clubs and coaches, Okocha chosen by the likes of Frankfurt, Bolton Fenerbahce and Hull The best comparison to Okocha would be Lua Lua he is also known for his senseless stepovers and dribbles wey no epp anyone
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:12pm On Jun 16, 2016
dubylhover:


kale is d best striker in England hence do golden boot..barkely would have started instead of Rooney...besides that 433 he started with won't favour any of d strikers

Kane, Ali and Lallana have no business being in the first team.

Rooney is playing CM and that is not Barkely's position. Hodgson should persist with the guys who have been getting the job done. Sturridge, Rooney, Barkely. Sterling will play well if these guys are in attack.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sleekdot(m): 4:13pm On Jun 16, 2016
chic2pimp:
Football is a team game. However as an Individual, He has achieved more..He was once voted Europe's best

People like Pirlo and Xavi were the key players in their team as they won the world cup and multiple CL, Does Owen even come close on that?

The purpose of football is to contribute to win the biggest trophy. See my Boateng vs Terry argument. Only whe you can be one of the best player of your generation(Messi, Ronaldo) then can individual award replace winning trophies
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 4:25pm On Jun 16, 2016
With that unproductive midfield, the least England can do is have a pacy attack to compensate for their lack of creativity.
That was how we managed under Van gaal.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 4:31pm On Jun 16, 2016
elampiro:


Kane, Ali and Lallana have no business being in the first team.

Rooney is playing CM and that is not Barkely's position. Hodgson should persist with the guys who have been getting the job done. Sturridge, Rooney, Barkely. Sterling will play well if these guys are in attack.
Barkley getting the job done?
Nah. He was inconsequential throughout England qualifiers. He was often used either as a sub or didn't get to play at all.
He and Alli has the same level of experience for England and plays the same way as well.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dubylhover(m): 4:56pm On Jun 16, 2016
elampiro:


Kane, Ali and Lallana have no business being in the first team.

Rooney is playing CM and that is not Barkely's position. Hodgson should persist with the guys who have been getting the job done. Sturridge, Rooney, Barkely. Sterling will play well if these guys are in attack.

as a human being,is it logical to bench a striker who had 25 league goals and won d EPL golden boot? hodson is playing a flat 433 WHR else wud barkely have played if not cm....and to think you justify sterling starting is just appauling
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sleekdot(m): 4:59pm On Jun 16, 2016
chrisooblog:
ajax inspite of kanu would always have won the dutch league then they were that dominant. that season wetin arsenal win? when wenger came to his senses and benched his azz arsenal started winning trophies

liverpool, ac milan and psg (in the 90s) whatever ever their status are pedigree teams

did godwin okpara or lamptey ever do much for their national teams?

chosen by big clubs and coaches to warm bench pray tell how's kanu any different from bosingwa, shaqiri and danilo?


When Okocha joined PSG they were midtable and nobody in Europe

See the teams you are mixing with PSG, Liverpool 5 CL, AC Milan - 7 CL, PSG never played a final yet they are pedigree team which pedigree?

What trophy did Okocha win for National team? 94 we won when he was a bench warmer, Olympics he was a mascot No wonder top clubs avoided him like a leper , FIFA and CAF too avoided him

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