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Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by truthmans2012: 9:22pm On Jul 29, 2016
The Jews practice Judaism in the Old Testament. When Jesus came he never condemned the OT because it is a Scripture approved of God, in fact, on many occasions he referred to it in his teachings, despite Jeremiah 8:8, which muslims wrongly interpret. Jesus despite his critism on how the Jewish leaders handled the word of God, he never said their Scripture had been adulterated. He confirmed the genuineness. Till date the Christians make use of the OT because it is the word of God.

After his (Jesus) ascension to heaven, the Disciples took up the Gospel, which was approved by Jesus and rebuked and corrected the Churches where they erred in the Book of Revelations. Till today, Jesus is still communicating with the true Church.

But why is the quran a total departure from the Scriptures before it if it was from the same God of the earlier Scriptures?I know muslims will hide under the slogan "the Bible is corrupted" when in actual fact they have not been able to point out what was corrupted in it and what the original is.

That the Bible is corrupted is an indictment on islamic allaah for making references to it and recommending it to Muhammad:

Quran 10:94
And if thou art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers.

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by F00028: 10:12pm On Jul 29, 2016
truthmans2012:
I know muslims will hide under the slogan "the Bible is corrupted" when in actual fact they have not been able to point out what was corrupted in it and what the original is...
the Roman Catholics bible has 73 books, the protestants' bible has 66 books. the clearest evidence even a child can understand..

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by Plappvillemoi(f): 11:13pm On Jul 29, 2016
F00028:

the Roman Catholics bible has 73 books, the protestants' bible has 66 books. the clearest evidence even a child can understand..

How does this sound corrupted to you. A corrupt book is that whose texts are modified. Like the quran. Do you know about the SA.TANIC VER.SE that was deleted from the qu.ran? This is pure a proof of a corrupted book. wink

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by truthmans2012: 7:49am On Jul 30, 2016
F00028:

the Roman Catholics bible has 73 books, the protestants' bible has 66 books. the clearest evidence even a child can understand..

With your allegation, allaah still approved and recommended it to Muhammad for consultation.

Read about the corruption of the Quran here:

www.nairaland.com/3073085/missing-verses-quran-proofs

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by F00028: 11:08am On Jul 30, 2016
Plappvillemoi:


How does this sound corrupted to you. A corrupt book is that whose texts are modified. Like the quran. Do you know about the SA.TANIC VER.SE that was deleted from the qu.ran? This is pure a proof of a corrupted book. wink
I thought it was plain to see. no? ok.
it's either:
1- the real bible has 73 books which means the protestants have thrown 6 whole books of God's word thereby corrupting it or;
2- the catholics have corrupted it by adding 6 fake books to 66 books to arrive a t 73 books.

you can't have it both ways . so which is it? 6 books more or 6 books less?

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by F00028: 11:11am On Jul 30, 2016
truthmans2012:


With your allegation, allaah still approved and recommended it to Muhammad for consultation.

Read about the corruption of the Quran here:

www.nairaland.com/3073085/missing-verses-quran-proofs

God has never recommended the "bible" to Muhammad (pbuh)

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by truthmans2012: 11:39am On Jul 30, 2016
F00028:


God has never recommended the "bible" to Muhammad (pbuh)

So allaah was lying?
Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by orisa37: 12:02pm On Jul 30, 2016
Judaism is aLight, a Goodness, a Life, a Faith and a Hope. Islam is a Light, a Goodness, a Life, a Faith, a Hope and Peace not realised. Christianity is The Light of God, a Good Image of God, God's Life, The Faith, The Hope, Peace of God and God in Love.

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by F00028: 7:35pm On Jul 30, 2016
truthmans2012:


So allaah was lying?

you're confused. God doesn't lie.

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by Presbulg(m): 8:01pm On Jul 30, 2016
Islam(Total submission to the will of the one and only God) is the only religion God will accept. It's been since the time of Adam(AS:PBUH) up till now.

"Verily the only acceptable
religion to Allah is Islam."
[Quran
3:19]

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by truthmans2012: 8:28pm On Jul 30, 2016
F00028:

you're confused. God doesn't lie.

Allaah in Quran 10:94 recommended the earlier Scripture to Muhammad and you are saying he didn't . If he didn't lie it means you are the liar.
Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by truthmans2012: 8:31pm On Jul 30, 2016
Presbulg:
Islam(Total submission to the will of the one and only God) is the only religion God will accept. It's been since the time of Adam(AS:PBUH) up till now.

"Verily the only acceptable
religion to Allah is Islam."
[Quran
3:19]

Stop deceiving yourself. There was no islam before Muhammad. Moses didn't talk about Kaaba. Jesus didn't talk about it. None of the Bible prophets visited Kaaba or performed Islamic rituals, which was the custom of pagans.

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by truthmans2012: 8:38pm On Jul 30, 2016
Presbulg:
Islam(Total submission to the will of the one and only God) is the only religion God will accept. It's been since the time of Adam(AS:PBUH) up till now.

"Verily the only acceptable
religion to Allah is Islam."
[Quran
3:19]

Is it not the same Quran that says the Jews and Christians are going to heaven as well? You have been deceived:

[Quran 5:69] Lo! those who believe, and those who are Jews, and Sabaeans, and Christians - Whosoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.

Stop deceiving yourself. There was no islam before Muhammad. Moses didn't talk about Kaaba. Jesus didn't talk about it. None of the Bible prophets visited Kaaba or performed Islamic rituals, which was the custom of pagans.

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by Anas09: 8:43pm On Jul 30, 2016
F00028:

the Roman Catholics bible has 73 books, the protestants' bible has 66 books. the clearest evidence even a child can understand..
Hello, do you have these other books? Have you read them? Do they say what aligns With other scriptures? Have you read the old testament and New Testament well? They compliment each other. Those books are a total deviation from the others. I have the complete so called Catholic Bible you are talking about. I have tried to read and make any sense out of it. I can't.
Pls read it and share the revelations you got from it.
Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by Anas09: 8:47pm On Jul 30, 2016
F00028:

I thought it was plain to see. no? ok.
it's either:
1- the real bible has 73 books which means the protestants have thrown 6 whole books of God's word thereby corrupting it or;
2- the catholics have corrupted it by adding 6 fake books to 66 books to arrive a t 73 books.

you can't have it both ways . so which is it? 6 books more or 6 books less?
Oh he is a Muslim. LOlzzz. Gerrarahia
Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by Anas09: 8:49pm On Jul 30, 2016
F00028:

you're confused. God doesn't lie.
Do you think by you insisting on calling him God, will make him God? Allah is Satan and Muhammed was his Messenger

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by Presbulg(m): 8:49pm On Jul 30, 2016
truthmans2012:


Is it not the same Quran that says the Jews and Christians are going to heaven as well? You have been deceived:

[Quran 5:69] Lo! those who believe, and those who are Jews, and Sabaeans, and Christians - Whosoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.

Stop deceiving yourself. There was no islam before Muhammad. Moses didn't talk about Kaaba. Jesus didn't talk about it. None of the Bible prophets visited Kaaba or performed Islamic rituals, which was the custom of pagans.

You should open eyes and read the bold words.
Do you believe that God is one without the trinity crap ?

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by F00028: 9:24pm On Jul 30, 2016
truthmans2012:


Allaah in Quran 10:94 recommended the earlier Scripture to Muhammad and you are saying he didn't . If he didn't lie it means you are the liar.
there is no "bible" in the verse!
look it's clear the bible has been corrupted. deal with it angry

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by truthmans2012: 9:32pm On Jul 30, 2016
Presbulg:


You should open eyes and read the bold words.
Do you believe that God is one without the trinity crap ?

Nonsense, typical of the way muslims reason.

Why did allaah mention Christian since they didn't believe in him?

Quran 9:29 says the people of the Book (Jews and Christians didn't believe in allaah, why did he say they were still going to heaven? Human beings are wiser than islamic allaah considering the way he spoke.

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by Weah96: 9:42pm On Jul 30, 2016
Anas09:

Do you think by you insisting on calling him God, will make him God?

This is exactly how I feel about your own god. You keep calling him God when he was only the product of hallucinogenic drug use.
Native doctors eat mushrooms too just like Chief Priests/Oracles from ancient Israel.
Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by truthmans2012: 9:45pm On Jul 30, 2016
F00028:

there is no "bible" in the verse!
look it's clear the bible has been corrupted. deal with it angry

Funny grin grin grin

What has been actually corrupted in the Bible?

What Scripture was allaah recommending to Muhammad?

Then, you have also to deal with the corruption of the quran:

www.nairaland.com/3073085/missing-verses-quran-proofs
Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by Presbulg(m): 9:47pm On Jul 30, 2016
Anas09:

Hello, do you have these other books? Have you read them? Do they say what aligns With other scriptures? Have you read the old testament and New Testament well? They compliment each other. Those books are a total deviation from the others. I have the complete so called Catholic Bible you are talking about. I have tried to read and make any sense out of it. I can't.
Pls read it and share the revelations you got from it.

Be honest with yourself and think deep, why does one bible has 77 book and one has 66 ?

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by Anas09: 9:50pm On Jul 30, 2016
Presbulg:


Be honest with yourself and think deep, why does one bible has 77 book and one has 66 ?
Did you read what I posted or your Islamic brain won't let you reason?
Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by Anas09: 9:54pm On Jul 30, 2016
Weah96:


This is exactly how I feel about your own god. You keep calling him God when he was only the product of hallucinogenic drug use.
Native doctors eat mushrooms too just like Chief Priests/Oracles from ancient Israel.
Hahahahahahahaha. Weah. Has it gotten to this? I think you should see a doctor. What has mushrooms got to do any thing. Take it easy man. We know times are hard, but pls don't let it get into you too much.

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by Weah96: 10:20pm On Jul 30, 2016
Anas09:

Hahahahahahahaha. Weah. Has it gotten to this? I think you should see a doctor. What has mushrooms got to do any thing. Take it easy man. We know times are hard, but pls don't let it get into you too much.

Ignorance is bliss. I won't tell you what mushrooms have to do with the bible. Do your own research.
"Entheogens and the bible." Look it up.

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by truthmans2012: 10:22pm On Jul 30, 2016
Presbulg:


Be honest with yourself and think deep, why does one bible has 77 book and one has 66 ?

The extra 11 are unnecessary because they are mere repetitions.
Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by Presbulg(m): 10:26pm On Jul 30, 2016
truthmans2012:


Nonsense, typical of the way muslims reason.

Why did allaah mention Christian since they didn't believe in him?

Quran 9:29 says the people of the Book (Jews and Christians didn't believe in allaah, why did he say they were still going to heaven? Human beings are wiser than islamic allaah considering the way he spoke.

That's not what Qu'ran 9:29 says

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by truthmans2012: 10:35pm On Jul 30, 2016
Presbulg:


That's not what Qu'ran 9:29 says

[Quran 9:29 Pickthal] Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.

As allaah knew Christians didn't believe in him, why did he still say they were going to heaven?

Now, how intelligent is allaah's statement.

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by Presbulg(m): 10:52pm On Jul 30, 2016
truthmans2012:


The extra 11 are unnecessary because they are mere repetitions.


unnecessary ? The so called 'words of God' as christians claim is unnecessary ? Who decided it ? Was God or man ? And
pls can you show me the proofs for your claim ?

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by Presbulg(m): 10:57pm On Jul 30, 2016
truthmans2012:


[Quran 9:29 Pickthal] Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.

Yes, the people who believe that Jesus came as the messiah called themselves 'Christians' that's why they're mentioned separately from the Jews who didn't believe Jesus was the messiah. But I still don't see in that verse where it says christians are going to heaven.

As Allah knew Christians didn't believe in him, why did he still say they were going to heaven?
[Quran 5:69] Lo! those who believe, and those
who are Jews, and Sabaeans, and Christians -Whosoever believeth in Allah and the Last
Day and doeth right - there shall no fear come
upon them neither shall they grieve.

That's the key statement there. Do you believe that God is one and not 3 in 1?

Now, how intelligent is Allah's statement.

You're the one who's not intelligent here. No offence

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by Presbulg(m): 11:03pm On Jul 30, 2016
Anas09:

Did you read what I posted or your Islamic brain won't let you reason?

Ok just went through it again. So you're trying to say Catholic ain't christians or what ? and how are you sure you are the one and not the catholics are the true followers of christ ?

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Re: Why Is Islam A Total Departure From Judaism And Christianity? by Presbulg(m): 11:20pm On Jul 30, 2016
truthmans2012:


Stop deceiving yourself. There was no islam before Muhammad. Moses didn't talk about Kaaba. Jesus didn't talk about it. None of the Bible prophets visited Kaaba or performed Islamic rituals, which was the custom of pagans.

You still haven't learned anything with all arguments you've been engaged in ?

Do you actually know what the word 'Islam and muslim means ?

When you get it lemme know okay. I'll try and explain the rest to you.

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