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Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by fulanmafia: 9:00pm On Aug 13, 2016
somegirl1:



But he is still trained to kill. Training that can not be erased. Still on your analogy, a retired carpenter isn't automatically a mechanic.

The difference is that he is guided and limited by the constitution and the National Assembly unlike military regimes where governance is by decrees.
Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by somegirl1: 9:06pm On Aug 13, 2016
fulanmafia:


The difference is that he is guided and limited by the constitution and the National Assembly unlike military regimes where governance is by decrees.


Would you entrust your car repairs to a retired carpenter with a manual?
Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by Moheat(m): 9:08pm On Aug 13, 2016
fulanmafia:
Your lamentations have just begun.

While I do not support the Emirs admonition, and the trash you cobbled up there is not deserving of a response due to its sheer idiocy, it must be pointed out that it's completely absurd to ignore the 16 years of failed civilian leadership by the South and whine about the current economic situation which was ironically brought about by a core southerner while trying to heap blame on the North.

What makes your hypocrisy stink the most is the fact that you pretend to care for the Nigerian economy while supporting the scAvengers in their economic sabotage.

You can only wail.

This 16yrs rhetoric is becoming stale. How old is Nigeria and which region has ruled Nigeria the most?

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Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by fulanmafia: 9:22pm On Aug 13, 2016
somegirl1:


Would you entrust your car repairs to a retired carpenter with a manual?

If the carpenter is experienced with hammering, and the car's engine requires heavy hammering, and he is guided by dozens of mechanics as well as a strictly enforced repair manual....

I'd definitely give him to fix my car over a quack apprentice that only became a mechanic because his boss died.
Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by somegirl1: 9:29pm On Aug 13, 2016
fulanmafia:


If the carpenter is experienced with hammering, and the car's engine requires heavy hammering, and he is guided by dozens of mechanics as well as a strictly enforced repair manual....

I'd definitely give him to fix my car over a quack apprentice that only became a mechanic because his boss died.

What if the issue with the car is the engine or something else that can not be masked by panel beating?

Wouldn't the apprentice with some training and a manual be a safer choice than the retired carpenter with the same manual, in the absence of a professional?
Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by fulanmafia: 9:35pm On Aug 13, 2016
You're just running around in circles with my analogy. You cannot expect good governance from a military regime. QED.

somegirl1:


What if the issue with the car is the engine or something else that can not be masked by panel beating?

Wouldn't the apprentice with some training and a manual be a safer choice than the retired carpenter with the same manual, in the absence of a professional?


Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by somegirl1: 9:39pm On Aug 13, 2016
fulanmafia:
You're just running around in circles with my analogy. You cannot expect good governance from a military regime. QED.




I'm not running around circles. I'm trying to agree with your analogy. But you contradict yourself.
If one can't expect good governance from the military, how can it be expected of ex- military men?
Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by citizenY(m): 9:51pm On Aug 13, 2016
somegirl1:


Is the carpenter who overpowered the mechanic, knowing very well that he lacked the knowhow to do his job, to be absolved of blame?

Using your analogy, if a carpenter takes over repair of a car, leaves it a worse condition than when its owner sent it in for maintenance/ repair and then hands it over to a mechanic who is then unable to restore it, who is to blame for the condition of the car?


My friend, opinions are like an asssshole, everyone has it.

WE ALL KNOW THE FIRST CARPENTERS, WHERE THEY COME FROM AND THE MICHIEVOUSNESS BEHIND THEIR ACTIONS. WE KNOW WHO DIVRTED NIGERIA FROM THE PATH OF TRUE FEDERALISM THAT EVERYONE IS CLAMOURING FOR.

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Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by somegirl1: 9:56pm On Aug 13, 2016
citizenY:



My friend, opinions are like an asssshole, everyone has it.

WE ALL KNOW THE FIRST CARPENTERS, WHERE THEY COME FROM AND THE MICHIEVOUSNESS BEHIND THEIR ACTIONS. WE KNOW WHO DIVRTED NIGERIA FROM THE PATH OF TRUE FEDERALISM THAT EVERYONE IS CLAMOURING FOR.

Your stance is unclear.
Is it fool-ish or not to have expected good governance from the military alias carpenters?

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Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by fulanmafia: 10:08pm On Aug 13, 2016
Go and read up on the role and powers of the constitution, the principle of separation of powers, the role of the National Assembly and the difference between laws and decrees and you will be less confused.

If you still don't get the essence of the analogy despite spoon feeding the logic to you, then only yourself and the Almighty can help you.

somegirl1:


I'm not running around circles. I'm trying to agree with your analogy. But you contradict yourself.
If one can't expect good governance from the military, how can it be expected of ex- military men?
Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by ndcide(m): 10:29pm On Aug 13, 2016
Nothing new. The last election was all about having a president of northern extraction. Nothing more.

All the corruption songs, the boko haram issues and the attack on GEJ was all about having a northern president. Now, they will do everything to support buhari. I've told people that even PDP is not interested in removing buhari.
They feel they can use the skewed election statistics to determine who becomes president.

Nigerians should know what to do. The 2015 election has an Implication that will that either a long time to turn around or a strong force to turn around.

If you like agree, if you like don't.
Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by citizenY(m): 10:31pm On Aug 13, 2016
somegirl1:


Your stance is unclear.
Is it fool-ish or not to have expected good governance from the military alias carpenters?

The issue of carpenter or mechanic is too pedestrian. I have taken you back to when the rain started beating us and if you cannot appreciate that, too bad.
Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by somegirl1: 10:34pm On Aug 13, 2016
fulanmafia:
Go and read up on the role and powers of the constitution, the principle of separation of powers, the role of the National Assembly and the difference between laws and decrees and you will be less confused.

If you still don't get the essence of the analogy despite spoon feeding the logic to you, then only yourself and the Almighty can help you.


Hun, you can't just abscond like that.
I don't need to read jack. You used an analogy to explain your point. You know very well I understood it and do not require "spoon feeding", hence your attempt to cover holes I uncovered.
You shouldn't speak from both sides of your mouth. End of.
Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by somegirl1: 10:42pm On Aug 13, 2016
citizenY:


The issue of carpenter or mechanic is too pedestrian. I have taken you back to when the rain started beating us and if you cannot appreciate that, too bad.

You jumped into a conversation, quoting my post and then proceeding to make an unrelated input. I had to understand where you were coming from.
My intention was to poke holes in that pedestrian analogy.
You may be right but that was not the issue under debate.

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Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by citizenY(m): 11:30pm On Aug 13, 2016
somegirl1:


You jumped into a conversation, quoting my post and then proceeding to make an unrelated input. I had to understand where you were coming from.
My intention was to poke holes in that pedestrian analogy.
You may be right but that was not the issue under debate.

Really??

The important thing is that you get my point and it is definitely related to the issue being discussed.

Anyway... I have made my point and that is what matters..

Here is wishing you a fruitful interface.
Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by somegirl1: 11:48pm On Aug 13, 2016
citizenY:


Really??

The important thing is that you get my point and it is definitely related to the issue being discussed.

Anyway... I have made my point and that is what matters..

Here is wishing you a fruitful interface.


It wasn't related to the conversation you butted into.
Bye.

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Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by Nobody: 11:55pm On Aug 13, 2016
somegirl1:


You jumped into a conversation, quoting my post and then proceeding to make an unrelated input. I had to understand where you were coming from.
My intention was to poke holes in that pedestrian analogy.
You may be right but that was not the issue under debate.

I read all your replies and I have this to say "u be your papa pikin". People make me believe that there is still hope for our youth.

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Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by forgiveness: 12:16am On Aug 14, 2016
Chai! grin What a debate? grin

Fela sing say 'animal go wear agbada... animal go shokoto....' hehehehe!


But dat girl take style use em analogy talk Finish am. Chai! grin

Na joke ooooo! grin
Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by Biafman: 12:22am On Aug 14, 2016
16 years of southern rule is evidently far much better than almost 40 years of northern almajiri, illiterate's rule. FACT! I blame Alimi slaves, the Afonjas for these association with good for nothing almajiris.

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Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by PresidentAtiku(m): 8:53am On Jan 28, 2017
Naijaboy, e be like say u don chop 6 years ban cheesy.
Na Buhari supporters get nairaland ni o!
Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by naijaboy756: 7:59am On Jan 14, 2018
lol
Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by guru03(m): 8:33am On Jan 14, 2018
blazhykowskyi:


you always come online to exhibit your Dan fodio's genetic hubris. you are never rational in your comments.

why do you want Nigeria to remain one by force, despite your reluctance to develop a progressive way of life, shelve religious bigotry and open to dialogue? you love Nigeria but doesn't want to take the rope to peace, prosperity and progress.

silly hypocrites!

Well said Brother, that fanatical, idiotic bigot of a guy has clouded his brain with errors and so he would not accept your proposition.
Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by PresidentAtiku(m): 12:12am On Mar 31, 2018
guru03:


Well said Brother, that fanatical, idiotic bigot of a guy has clouded his brain with errors and so he would not accept your proposition.
lol
Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by Truthcat: 11:14am On Mar 31, 2018
Hmmm, the thread 2 glasses of cosmopolitan (abi na 3 sef, I no know again oo) couldn't let me read last night, that's how it turned to a parking space overnight. So let me feel it now.
Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by Truthcat: 11:59am On Mar 31, 2018
Friend, you still don't get it. North does not care about the south, emir of Katsina is doing what he feels is the right thing for his people because we in the south especially Yoruba allow it. The north does not have power other than the one we gave them, Hausa and fulani saw opportunity and took it, we have to put blame where it belongs. Hausa and fulani are not as educated, rich and sophisticated as Yoruba, yet they have produced more leaders, low quality ones at that. Hausa and fulani are the worst kind of filthy animals who shouldn't have been a part of a country Yoruba are in, let alone having any say, but because they are propped up by England, they feel like kingkong. The south especially Yoruba just doesn't know the power we have over this Afghanistan on steroids of a country in the making, these people contribute nothing except killings to Nigeria and they are still allowed in and you expect them to make sense to you? We in the south especially Yoruba need to sit up and at least accept outside help to help us take care of all the street almanjiris who they will arm with Ak47 to kill southerners, those will be like ants on flame once the river Niger bridge is blown and bombs dropped on strategic locations north of the bridge. We need to make sure we register our displeasure with UN that the man representing Nigeria at the un is only representing the north, and the need to make room for south's representation. We have a lot to do, talking back to maalu online won't yield much.

We need to stop ranting of social media and start getting things done because it's going to be bloody. We can't continue like this, let's just do it, we can't afford to pass this mess to the next generation.

naijaboy756:
Fellow Nigerians, this post might appear very controversial. Some will see some truths in it, others will see but instead, attack the message and the messanger. Others also,will see lies and an attempt to misinform. Today, the Emir of Katsina advised his co-northerners not to join other concerned Nigerians to criticize or insult Buhari. I had to take a deeper review of this advise and asked my self, what did the North come to this Nigerian table with? What is the contribution of the north to the Nigerian project? An emir with other traditional rulers are supposed to be the fathers of the nation. They are revered personalities controlling institutions that advice,correct,applaud,pray for and direct. They are meant to be just and not partial. They chastize when their sub-ordinates err. But the admonition by the emir leaves tears in my eyes. I am forced to ask. What has the north done for Nigeria? They gave us Abacha and IBB who will go down in history as the true definition of corruption. They stole without fear. The irony is that they are quickly trying to erase that part of our history by placing the corruption tag on GEJ. Currently, their son is taking Nigeria back 60years with his clueless-ness. Maitesine, Boko haram, several years of bloody riots. They have had the highest shots at the leadership spot yet they are the poorest,least educated and developed region. Quota system has been their saving grace. The south boasts of better facilities, living conditions, well educated people, less blood thirsty and above all, provides the resources feeding all. The huge mystery is then, why will the north with all the level of illiteracy and no resource be the region with right to leadership? They have had the larger share of both military and civilian rules with nothing to show for it. Imagine what Buhari is doing to Nigeria. It might end up as 4 wasted years in the history of our dear nation. Please don't get me wrong. I am not anti-north. Infact, I have many northern friends and lived with them some years back. But the Emir's comment today got me worried. He is supposed to father all. Correct any ill-child to the benefit of all. I feel the strength of the north comes from their quest to shed blood and the fact that they can marry plenty wives, give birth to plenty children who end up on the streets as tools for bloodshed. They also have very porous borders and because they share similar names and religion with most of our neighbours, foreigners enter Nigeria and claim to be Nigerians. No region/religion has monopoly of violence and bloodshed. A traditional ruler is supposed to be a fence-mender working in tandem with other traditional rulers to keep Nigeria one. Comments like this tear us apart more. I wish southerners will wake up. It is high time we restructured Nigeria. We can't continue like this. Pls note! I am not anti-north but the time has come.
Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by Truthcat: 12:14pm On Mar 31, 2018
Blame your visionless oloriburuku fathers who couldn't take the advantage of biafra to be on their own.
Biafman:
16 years of southern rule is evidently far much better than almost 40 years of northern almajiri, illiterate's rule. FACT! I blame Alimi slaves, the Afonjas for these association with good for nothing almajiris.
Re: Northern Nigeria: A Critical Look. A Deep X-ray by Truthcat: 12:22pm On Mar 31, 2018
And which constitution is that? The illegal constitution without representation hurriedly put together by the military dictator, you mean? The real constitution at the independence has been sidelined, so Nigeria is an illegal entity as it is.
fulanmafia:
Go and read up on the role and powers of the constitution, the principle of separation of powers, the role of the National Assembly and the difference between laws and decrees and you will be less confused.

If you still don't get the essence of the analogy despite spoon feeding the logic to you, then only yourself and the Almighty can help you.

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