honourhim:


I have told you that your spirit is exactly you but not in the physical. Asking me about tongue as if its not part of you makes no sense.

And may be you can explain to me how a spirit (God, angels etc.) can talk well without tongue.

MizJanet:


This fallacy is the reason I asked : " gnashing of Teeth" , is the TEETH not physical ?



So confuse set of people, soon they will say God is immaterial. Yet he is been presented as a man who needs a tongue to speak, what about vocal cord ? Sighs

Okay, basically your god is an humanoid, needs a fleshly tongue to speak . awesome

KingEbukasBlog:



https://www.nairaland.com/3286519/communist-leaders-killed-millions-because

This should claim you down .

Christianity is dangerous - absolutely outlandish and lubricious .

MizJanet:


This fallacy is the reason I asked : " gnashing of Teeth" , is the TEETH not physical ?



So confuse set of people, soon they will say God is immaterial. Yet he is been presented as a man who needs a tongue to speak, what about vocal cord ? Sighs

Okay, basically your god is an humanoid, needs a fleshly tongue to speak . awesome

MizJanet:


This fallacy is the reason I asked : " gnashing of Teeth" , is the TEETH not physical ?



So confuse set of people, soon they will say God is immaterial. Yet he is been presented as a man who needs a tongue to speak, what about vocal cord ? Sighs

Okay, basically your god is an humanoid, needs a fleshly tongue to speak . awesome

honourhim:


And the millions of people who have passed out of life and back and experienced the horrors of hell are not undeniable evidences for themselves and a confirmation of what we are preaching?

You are deceiving yourself. Moreover its not only christians that have experienced this. It includes people of various religious and cultural backgrounds who at the end of the day give their lives to Christ.

You turn blind eyes to such testimonies because you want to keep deceiving yourself that hell is not real.

O yeah kindly show me where God told you in the bible that he is an all loving God

and for that reason he cannot hate, he cannot be angry

and he cannot punish people for their sins. You just created what you think you can use as an excuse but you are deceiving yourself.

[s]if he did not state these things in the bible then you would ve scored a point by telling us that he is doing what he is not known to do in the bible[/s]

All knowing doesnt mean that if he has forseen that you will sin he wouldnt be angry when you commit the sin.

He has said he hates sin and frowns at it and he cannot change because of you. You dont want to change for God but you want him to change for you. How silly you reason.

A creator changing for his creature.

He is all knowing but there is still need for him to show us that he is angry when we sin. Or you want him to keep silence to sin because he is all knowing so that you will start feeling that he is very cool with us sinning?

And what stops you from rejecting the finite sin so as to escape the infinite consequences if not for your undying love for the infinite sin? If humans like you are rejecting sin why not you? stop deceiving yourself bro you have no excuse.

ifenes:


So you are trying to convince me that santa is real too? Too bad,an adult like yourself thinks hell is real. I cannot help you.

honourhim:


Oh so without the tonegue one SPEAK WELL? Speaking well was what i asked you so drop the vocal cord defence.
Explain to me how one can pronouce words clearly without the tonegue and stop blabbing.
And spirit being immaterial means they dont possess tongue? You are really confused.

MizJanet:


That makes them material. A spirit having a fleshly tongue. Lolzzzz , And if you are so sure provide proof from your bible where it ever say spirit have tongue !


Tongue remains a Body part!

honourhim:



This is not the issue. You are dodging my question. Here is it again-
Can one pronounce words well without the tongue?

How come the spirit pronounce words clearly since they dont have tongue? Kindly explain to me.

honourhim:



For God so love the WORLD that he gave his only begotten son that WHOSOEVER believeth in him will not perish but have everlasting life.
Does this statement say JEWS?

honourhim:



This is not the issue. You are dodging my question. Here is it again-
Can one pronounce words well without the tongue?
How come the spirit pronounce words clearly since they dont have tongue? Kindly explain to me.

I have told you that your spirit is same shape/form/appearance as you but the difference is that its not physical or mortal. You just want to be going round and confusing yourself.

MrMontella:

people who have gone to hell and back?..oh u mean the six year old boy who went to heaven and back and then 10-16 years later he admitted that he lied?
Millions? What a fallacy..

MrMontella:


muslims who have met allah nko?
Christians who have met allah nko?
What are u saying bruh?..
Gimme something to chew on..not these stuffs..ive dealt with it on nde's..

MrMontella:


serzly?
1 john 4:7,8,16...enjoy...
Even john 3:16 sef....?
What u saying ni?

?

MrMontella:


what does holy mean?(for a God)
can a holy god hate?
Dude...isaiah 27:4
...habakkuk 1:13...

MrMontella:
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he said his mercy has no limit...
do u know what eternal punishment means?
What does all merciful mean?

I created these bible verse abi?
Jer3:12...micah 7:18
1 chro 16:34...jer 33:11

funny!

MrMontella:


.
1 john 3:20
its like u dont understand the word everything...
U experience emotions as a result of new information gained...fact...

ur bible said god changes his mind though..lol...and he even sinned in the bible...a lot..so?


The biblical god didnt create me...

MrMontella:


eternal punishment contrasts all merciful...get it..

keep on deceiving urself that i am going to give account to your imaginary friend...
Sin is jst a name for negative survival traits..

americanigga:


That is not true the spirit inside man does not have the shape of man. The spirit inside man does not have form, it is like a force. You can imagine it like a smoke, or air or electricity(current) with energy. To be more specific, let me quote the bible: the bible said God breath into man and man became a living soul. It is the breath that we refer to as spirit. Does breath have form? Can breath talk or walk.

americanigga:


If truly he gave His son to the whole world why did the son live and die in a small town called Israel why did the son not travel to the whole world to present himself to them. Is Israel the whole world?

Before the coming of Jesus how was Jehova relating to africans to show we were his children?
Why is it that there was no record of any relationship between Jehova and Africans, Europe etc but only the Jews. Does that not tell you that the bible is simply an history of a nation and their relationship with their God. We Africans believe that anything that comes from the white man is superior why?

The yorubas have their history how they were created by Oduduwa, the Benin people have their own, so also people in Asia.
So my brother the issue of hell fire has nothing to do with me and you but the people of Israel.

MizJanet:


As human , you can't . but for an immaterial being its not needed, is your God human ?



You believe in this things so you should explain, and spirit according to Christianity is immaterial, that's why they ain't believed to have vagin*a or pen*is , talkless. Of tongue which your bible identifies as a Body part.

" the tongue is a small [size=28] part of the body, [/size] " says the Bible .

Going by this analogy of spirit as immaterial, that rules, out the tongue option

Unless , you want to tell me your god is a material being that will be interesting, then we can start from there

honourhim:



God is a spirit.So you mean God is a smoke that cannot talk?
Angels are spirits. So you mean angels are smokes that cannot talk?
Satan and demons are spirits so you mean they are smokes and cant talk?
Stop deceiving yourself.

honourhim:


God is a spirit, he talks to people, he hears prayers, he sees and moves.
Angels are spirit, they talk, hear, sees and moves.
Satan and demons are spirits, they talk, hear, see, move and they can be tormented.

Then when it comes to man and his spirit you start playing games with what a material should possess and what an immaterial should not possess. keep deceiving yourself.

you have failed woefully to tell me how the spirits mentioned above can pronounce words clearly without having a tongue. Why are you dodging this question?

This is the most irrational and illogical post have ever read . I can as well ask you, CAN SOMEONE BE REFFERED TO AS " HE" IF THEY DONT HAVE THE MALE SEX ORGAN ?
Don't dodge it, I just want you to see how sensible you are.

the bolded statement disqualify your god from having tongue. And somewhere in the bible someone said spirit don't have flesh ~ Tongue is pure flesh man . and this same tongue mentioned in that story can taste water . lol god drink water. Very soon you will tell me God eat food

Proof from the bible that god have tongue ? U no get na to dey assume. basically, the pictures in your head about the god u serve must be so humanoid having every part of man including sex organs ( aftrall he is used for him, denoting a male ) god have teeth too , hahahaha am trying to imagine the kind of picture in your head about how god looked like . so pathetic that rational thinking is exchanged when your indoctrination is scrutinized

honourhim:


Which six year old boy? And that supersedes the million others across the globe who stood by their testimonies? The atheists who had the experience and gave their life to Christ. The muslims, the hindus, the traditional worshippers, the occcultic men and others who have experienced this and gave their lives to Christ?

These testimonies have been happening over the years. You are joking by using your so called six year old boy to cancel the overwhelming testimonies. See how you easily believed your six year old boy but find it hard to believe the millions of others who not only testified to this experience but also gave their lives to Christ. You are a hypocrite indeed.

I have never seen a christian who have had an out of life experience and converted to Islam based on what he saw. What you see is christians converting to muslim due to marriage or money or politics etc. Not based on an out of life experience they had biko.

Give me a link to such testimonies and i will provide you more to mine.

Again you failed. The place you quoted does not show what i asked you to show me. I asked you to show me where it is written that God iis an all loving God who cannot punish people. Kindly show it to me and stop going round.

Pls stop deceiving yourself. Read what led to that statement in verse 4. Start from Isaiah 25 and follow the writing and you will see the bible was describing of a particular time and event. Notice it kept saying- on that day.
I dont do cut and join in the bible. you dont just cut a statement and portray it wrongly.

Pls be sincere in reading the bible. The place you quoted in Jeremiah God told them to return from their backslidden state so that he will not cause his anger upon them. As long as they return he will show them his mercy and not keep his anger forever.
God's anger upon a sinner ceases when the sinner repents. As long as you refused to repent his anger stays there and once you leave this life unrepented, then there is no more repentance room for you. The door of repentance closes.

1. I have told you that the fact that God knoweth everything doesnt mean he wont still show us that he is angry when we sin.

He is dealing with human that is not all knowing and if he says he hates sin, he must show it to man when man sins.

Its a simple thing to understand but your evil mind towards God will pretend not to understand.

[s]2. when a sinner repents God changes his mind towards him. God cannot change his mind to youjust because you are angry with him. You can be angry and thats your business, he will still do what he wants to do.[/s]

3. You have no say in your creation. You didnt even ask to be created so you can continue to make the empty noise that God didnt create you.

[s]What you are saying would ve made sense if you had say in you creation[/s]

If you had say in how your life will run

and when you will die.

For now remain a noise maker that you are.

honourhim:


You think your soul is just one shapeless thing different from you? Then you are missing it bigtime. Its exactly you as you are but not in the physical body. Thats just the difference.

MizJanet:


Mtchew, Teeth is not physical ?

honourhim:


Oh so in your belief a spirit is not supposed to have a tongue. How come the angels speak? They are spirits. God is a spirit, how come he speaks? Satan is a spirit how come he talks and will be tormented with his angels at last in the lake of fire? The demons that Jesus cast out in one the mad men he encountered screamed and asked Jesus why he has come to torment them. But demons are spirits. How come that some people that Jesus cast out demons from them when the demons were leaving they tore the persons garment and pushed him down. But they are spirits.

honourhim:


I have told you that your spirit is exactly you but not in the physical. Asking me about tongue as if its not part of you makes no sense.


And may be you can explain to me how a spirit (God, angels etc.) can talk well without tongue.

americanigga:


you are mixing things up.
God,angels and satan are spirits. They can talk, walk, they have form like human beings. But man does not have a spirit inside him that has form like a man. What man has is a flesh made from dust and a breath that made him a living soul. Man is a a living soul. What is a living soul? A living soul is flesh and breath from God. The bible did not say God created spirit and put it inside flesh to make man.
It is because you have been hearing such things for long that is why you think it is so. Take your time to sudy things.

That is the reason God said when the trumpet sounds the grave shall give up the dead. If man actually has spirit what happens to the spirit when a man dies. Where will the spirit go to? You know spirit cannot die. Will the spirit go to heaven or hell, then when the trumpet sound the dead body will now resurate again to go and join him(the spirit) in heaven or hell?

When Adam sinned against God. God said dust you are and dust shall you return.

frank317:


Loooooool!!! So without tongue, spirit and even your God cannot talk? Do spirits also have intestine to digest their food? Sorry, do spirits go to toilet?

I can't stop laughing here... See tears for my eyes. Sir, abeg does spirit like Amala and goat meat too? Lol

MizJanet:




This is the most irrational and illogical post have ever read . I can as well ask you, CAN SOMEONE BE REFFERED TO AS " HE" IF THEY DONT HAVE THE MALE SEX ORGAN ?
Don't dodge it, I just want you to see how sensible you are.

the bolded statement disqualify your god from having tongue. And somewhere in the bible someone said spirit don't have flesh ~ Tongue is pure flesh man . and this same tongue mentioned in that story can taste water . lol god drink water. Very soon you will tell me God eat food

Proof from the bible that god have tongue ? U no get na to dey assume. basically, the pictures in your head about the god u serve must be so humanoid having every part of man including sex organs ( aftrall he is used for him, denoting a male ) god have teeth too , hahahaha am trying to imagine the kind of picture in your head about how god looked like . so pathetic that rational thinking is exchanged when your indoctrination is scrutinized

honourhim:



God is a spirit.So you mean God is a smoke that cannot talk?
Angels are spirits. So you mean angels are smokes that cannot talk?
Satan and demons are spirits so you mean they are smokes and cant talk?
Stop deceiving yourself.

honourhim:


The same you that does not believe in anything outside the physical is the one telling me how a spirit should be. Shows the hypocricy in your claim of atheism. You dont believe in God, you dont believe in spirits and spiritual realm yet here you are telling me how spirits should be? Hypocrisy.

frank317:


Lol... Telling u what? I am asking u questions to show u how foolish u sound... I think u saw ur stupidity that why you are trying to assume u know not what I am talking about. Does spirit shyte?

honourhim:


You pretend not to know that God created man in his image. While we have his image but in the flesh, He is a spirit. Keep pretending.

Genesis 1

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.


You dont believe in God, you dont believe in spirits yet you re here arguing with me how a spirit should or should not be. Hypocrisy of Naija atheists.

frank317:


Loooooool!!! So without tongue, spirit and even your God cannot talk? Do spirits also have intestine to digest their food? Sorry, do spirits go to toilet?

I can't stop laughing here... See tears for my eyes. Sir, abeg does spirit like Amala and goat meat too? Lol