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Re: Why Do You Think Chibok Girls Is A Scam? by Marvel1206: 11:14am On Oct 21, 2016
obailala:
My opinion is what I had on the second paragraph. Chibok is not scam, young girls, women and children were kidnapped in large numbers by paedophile terrorists; the Chibok case just happened to be one of the many cases of abduction by bokoharam.

Chibok case gained prominence and popularity for different reasons, one of which is that they were all secondary school students picked up from their school dormitory. Chibok also got the attention of the world due to the loud outcry of activists who decried the lackadaisical attitude of the government then. No doubts when something like that happens and the leadership of the country responds coldly, it presents a beautiful opportunity for opposition politicians to capitalise on to further their own political game. The APC leveraged greatly on the Chibok incident to further dent GEJ's political image. And for this very reason, die-hard GEJ fans still believe anything Chibok is scam orchestrated to unseat their hero. Die-hard GEJ fans also will never forgive anyone (activist or not) who in any way, helped to popularise the Chibok incident.
yes, this is all true to me and anyone sincere to his or herself. Thumbs up
Re: Why Do You Think Chibok Girls Is A Scam? by ndcide(m): 11:27am On Oct 21, 2016
Marvel1206:

Yes, i know he was almost suffocated but i think he still had an option. It was when it was getting closer to the election that he started acting and he fell for a scam. I'm just doling out my thoughts, i'm not an advocate of Buhari

Are you saying that it was almost election time before the military was deployed against boko haram?

Are you saying it was close to election before partial state of emergency was declared?

Was it close to election when full state of emergency was declared?

Was it close to election when a special team armed with Tavor went on a raid at Adamawa hills?

Was it close to the election when GEJ visited bornu elders having had clear intelligence about how locals aid boko haram?

Was it close to election when the military came real hard on boko haram when it was discovered that the insurgents blend into the communities, and the state governors of the three states and the elders accused the military of genocide and the CAS should be dragged to ICC?

Was it close to election when Kabiru sokoto was arrested by the special squad and he disappeared on his way to Abuja even when he was with security men, and was later found in a senator's home?

Was it close to the election when a senator was discovered to have exchanges with top boko haram commanders?

Like I said just pray you don't find yourself in a similar situation.
Re: Why Do You Think Chibok Girls Is A Scam? by Marvel1206: 11:36am On Oct 21, 2016
ndcide:


Are you saying that it was almost election time before the military was deployed against boko haram?

Are you saying it was close to election before partial state of emergency was declared?



Was it close to election when full state of emergency was declared?



Was it close to election when a special team armed with Tavor went on a raid at Adamawa hills?


Was it close to the election when GEJ visited bornu elders having had clear intelligence about how locals aid boko haram?


Was it close to election when the military came real hard on boko haram when it was discovered that the insurgents blend into the communities, and the state governors of the three states and the elders accused the military of genocide and the CAS should be dragged to ICC?

Was it close to election when Kabiru sokoto was arrested by the special squad and he disappeared on his way to Abuja even when he was with security men, and was later found in a senator's home?

Was it close to the election when a senator was discovered to have exchanges with top boko haram commanders?

Like I said just pray you don't find yourself in a similar situation.
Well, you'd agree with me that GEJ intensified efforts when it was close to the election. What is the use of military actions when our soldiers were poorly equipped.. You can see that some soldiers were charged for mutiny, why? Cos they simply complained to their superiors over their inferior weapons against the highly sophisticated BH boys which led to their frustration. GEJ was lackadiasical in regards to BH. You know the case of dasuki right? I think corruption played a part in it
Re: Why Do You Think Chibok Girls Is A Scam? by ndcide(m): 12:00pm On Oct 21, 2016
Marvel1206:

Well, you'd agree with me that GEJ intensified efforts when it was close to the election. What is the use of military actions when our soldiers were poorly equipped.. You can see that some soldiers were charged for mutiny, why? Cos they simply complained to their superiors over their inferior weapons against the highly sophisticated BH boys which led to their frustration. GEJ was lackadiasical in regards to BH. You know the case of dasuki right? I think corruption played a part in it

I doubt if you are a project manager. You'd know what you said is too simplistic.

Secondly, thank God GEJ also equipped the military. Besides Buhari himself said, they prosecuted the civil war without taking loan to buy military equipment and the Nigeria military he knows, had all the equipment to defeat boko haram. That's paraphrasing buhari.

Who knows you may not agree with buhari on that abi?

That should tell you that equipment was not the issue but sabotage.

Besides the mutiny I know happen when a team of soldiers were ambushed and many killed when their commander insisted they should wait before returning to base and the next team failed to take over. They returned in anger and shot at the GOC.

Some of us who asked some of our people who know what was happening are aware of the truth devoid of media twist and embellishments aim absolutely at GEJ.

Okay the military grand troops no longer use AK47? or they now put on a different clothing? Maybe we should stick with Lai Mohammed, that GEJ never bought any equipment of the Guns he bought Crack in their barrel as he said that other time.

We can all hold on to our perspective and let God be the judge. GEJ is out. He wasn't going to be there for ever. He wasn't the best neither is Buhari the best. We can suppress the truth. We can ignore important questions of why all these? We can shout down anyone with "corruption" it's okay but let's live it to God.

Like I said, this thread is not to convince your made up mind. So let's just let it be.

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Re: Why Do You Think Chibok Girls Is A Scam? by Marvel1206: 12:14pm On Oct 21, 2016
ndcide:


I doubt if you are a project manager. You'd know what you said is too simplistic.

Secondly, thank God GEJ also equipped the military. Besides Buhari himself said, they prosecuted the civil war without taking loan to buy military equipment and the Nigeria military he knows, had all the equipment to defeat boko haram. That's paraphrasing buhari.

Who knows you may not agree with buhari on that abi?

That should tell you that equipment was not the issue but sabotage.

Besides the mutiny I know happen when a team of soldiers were ambushed and many killed when their commander insisted they should wait before returning to base and the next team failed to take over. They returned in anger and shot at the GOC.

Some of us who asked some of our people who know what was happening are aware of the truth devoid of media twist and embellishments aim absolutely at GEJ.

Okay the military grand troops no longer use AK47? or they now put on a different clothing? Maybe we should stick with Lai Mohammed, that GEJ never bought any equipment of the Guns he bought Crack in their barrel as he said that other time.

We can all hold on to our perspective and let God be the judge. GEJ is out. He wasn't going to be there for ever. He wasn't the best neither is Buhari the best. We can suppress the truth. We can ignore important questions of why all these? We can shout down anyone with "corruption" it's okay but let's live it to God.

Like I said, this thread is not to convince your made up mind. So let's just let it be.


bro, don't get me wrong.. You think am a Zombie or an advocate of Buhari?

I was only stating the obvious

GEJ failed in that aspect and i give it to PMB.. But aside that PMB is below average in other areas.

We are good are we not?

My Made up mind? According to me, Chibok is not a scam but it was used by the opposition to undermine GEJ which made many folks think it was a scam. Truth be told, he really ddn't do well.
I personally like GEJ but that does not mean i should feign oblivious to the truth
Re: Why Do You Think Chibok Girls Is A Scam? by ndcide(m): 12:47pm On Oct 21, 2016
Marvel1206:


bro, don't get me wrong.. You think am a Zombie or an advocate of Buhari?

I was only stating the obvious

GEJ failed in that aspect and i give it to PMB.. But aside that PMB is below average in other areas.

We are good are we not?

My Made up mind? According to me, Chibok is not a scam but it was used by the opposition to undermine GEJ which made many folks think it was a scam. Truth be told, he really ddn't do well.
I personally like GEJ but that does not mean i should feign oblivious to the truth

I've stated the truth for you. And I've added that you pray never to be in such situation. also It depends on how you define the word Scam. We've told you that the girls were taken. I'm really tired of explaining. Have you asked yourself why people close to GEJ didn't believe the issue.

There was a special team working for GEJ after he knew that state apparatus was greatly sabotaged even to Aso rock and for political reasons shaking it will blow things out of proportion and affect the election.

The president ordered a scan across the region and they gave him word that the girls were not in the bush. And if any of such happened, the girls were within... What I just told you now is fact... It's not about you supporting buhari or GEJ. What is the military doing differently. Even if Atiku or Kwankwaso was made president, this same thing would have happened like this.
Again, it depends on how you define scam. It doesn't mean the girls weren't taken.
Re: Why Do You Think Chibok Girls Is A Scam? by Goke7: 12:58pm On Oct 21, 2016
obailala:
My opinion is what I had on the second paragraph. Chibok is not scam, young girls, women and children were kidnapped in large numbers by paedophile terrorists; the Chibok case just happened to be one of the many cases of abduction by bokoharam.

Chibok case gained prominence and popularity for different reasons, one of which is that they were all secondary school students picked up from their school dormitory. Chibok also got the attention of the world due to the loud outcry of activists who decried the lackadaisical attitude of the government then. No doubts when something like that happens and the leadership of the country responds coldly, it presents a beautiful opportunity for opposition politicians to capitalise on to further their own political game. The APC leveraged greatly on the Chibok incident to further dent GEJ's political image. And for this very reason, die-hard GEJ fans still believe anything Chibok is scam orchestrated to unseat their hero. Die-hard GEJ fans also will never forgive anyone (activist or not) who in any way, helped to popularise the Chibok incident.

reason they are so bitter with oby ezekwesili, in fact they can never forgive that woman grin
Re: Why Do You Think Chibok Girls Is A Scam? by Marvel1206: 1:26pm On Oct 21, 2016
ndcide:


I've stated the truth for you. And I've added that you pray never to be in such situation. also It depends on how you define the word Scam. We've told you that the girls were taken. I'm really tired of explaining. Have you asked yourself why people close to GEJ didn't believe the issue.

There was a special team working for GEJ after he knew that state apparatus was greatly sabotaged even to Aso rock and for political reasons shaking it will blow things out of proportion and affect the election.

The president ordered a scan across the region and they gave him word that the girls were not in the bush. And if any of such happened, the girls were within... What I just told you now is fact... It's not about you supporting buhari or GEJ. What is the military doing differently. Even if Atiku or Kwankwaso was made president, this same thing would have happened like this.
Again, it depends on how you define scam. It doesn't mean the girls weren't taken.

ok bro, stay blessed
Re: Why Do You Think Chibok Girls Is A Scam? by kanirip: 1:50pm On Oct 21, 2016
ndcide:


I've stated the truth for you. And I've added that you pray never to be in such situation. also It depends on how you define the word Scam. We've told you that the girls were taken. I'm really tired of explaining. Have you asked yourself why people close to GEJ didn't believe the issue.

There was a special team working for GEJ after he knew that state apparatus was greatly sabotaged even to Aso rock and for political reasons shaking it will blow things out of proportion and affect the election.

The president ordered a scan across the region and they gave him word that the girls were not in the bush. And if any of such happened, the girls were within... What I just told you now is fact... It's not about you supporting buhari or GEJ. What is the military doing differently. Even if Atiku or Kwankwaso was made president, this same thing would have happened like this.
Again, it depends on how you define scam. It doesn't mean the girls weren't taken.

You have a fan in me! Its very rare that you see a Nigerian employ critical reasoning in the manner you have displayed.
I know that the Chibok girls were taken. They were kidnapped and abducted from their School. This is/was a tragedy. A week before the Chibok girls were taken, some male students had been executed by the same group. This is/was also a tragedy. Who is going to 'Bring Back our Boys'?
My view on the Boko Haram and Chibok Girls saga is one of Societal and moral decadence and every single one of ndcides questions remain unanswered.
If you demand for answers, they will say that you 'are pained by your heros' loss' and I just laugh.
When the US went after ISIL, the 1st thing they did was inform the World that they knew which nations were funding the group. I have been told that the Army has decimated Boko Haram, but we still don't know who funded Boko Haram.
How can you confidently state you have defeated a terrorist group if you don't know how the group was funded?
Its sad to see how Nigerians have belittled the value of human life

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Re: Why Do You Think Chibok Girls Is A Scam? by Nobody: 2:15pm On Oct 21, 2016
BossKratos:



Because they are pained!
It is simple painment on the side of supporters of the Jonathan regime because they realize that their incompetent hero's inability to take charge of the kidnap during his time in office, is one of the major reasons why he was booted out of office. We shouldn't give two figs whether or not they choose to accept the unfortunate kidnapping as fact. All we give a damn about is the people with influence and power to get the girls back do. Im talking about world leaders, International NGOs and most importantly the UN., not some frustrated, miscreant IPOB yoot
Re: Why Do You Think Chibok Girls Is A Scam? by adekolaelect(m): 3:31pm On Oct 21, 2016
They will say it is a scam bcs they hate the present Govmt & their children's not among those kidnapped
Re: Why Do You Think Chibok Girls Is A Scam? by olisasegun(m): 3:46pm On Oct 21, 2016
obailala:
My opinion is what I had on the second paragraph. Chibok is not scam, young girls, women and children were kidnapped in large numbers by paedophile terrorists; the Chibok case just happened to be one of the many cases of abduction by bokoharam.

Chibok case gained prominence and popularity for different reasons, one of which is that they were all secondary school students picked up from their school dormitory. Chibok also got the attention of the world due to the loud outcry of activists who decried the lackadaisical attitude of the government then. No doubts when something like that happens and the leadership of the country responds coldly, it presents a beautiful opportunity for opposition politicians to capitalise on to further their own political game. The APC leveraged greatly on the Chibok incident to further dent GEJ's political image. And for this very reason, die-hard GEJ fans still believe anything Chibok is scam orchestrated to unseat their hero. Die-hard GEJ fans also will never forgive anyone (activist or not) who in any way, helped to popularise the Chibok incident.


well said

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