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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by Nobody: 9:45am On Nov 22, 2016
BlackMbakara1:
Mbok remove Akwa cross from that map sharp sharp! Why should i trade one dictator hundred miles away to another dictator 3 miles away?

Are we not in this country and have seen what our "beloved" brothers have been doing to us? Please which tribe have been going to China to bring in fake products? Which tribe has been predominant in drug related activities? Which tribe is noted for notoriety in the supposed "Biafra" land.

A tribe that couldn't give their supposed "hero" 1 million vote during the presidential election...

A tribe that is filled with hate and resentment towards Akwa cross...NO i won't pretend to join them.

It's best we get an "Ibibio Nation".
Too weak and childish. Come up with valid reasons, not those childish tantrum.

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by thedarkside: 9:45am On Nov 22, 2016
blues2022:

How can it be an eldorado when the killer of one innocent woman, and countless others, goes free; walking the street like heroes, because they are from a certain region and practice certain religion? Hogwash.... Dude, its not all about money, its about respect and value for life. Our value system is our driving force.

hmmm..here we go again..

na only igbos are killed ni??..

those that commited those crimes are criminals..simple..

its nothing personal against igbos...
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by pazienza(m): 9:49am On Nov 22, 2016
Got caught up by duty only to return to see 48 mentions.

I had taken time to read through arguments put forward by people especially my Igbo brothers in my absence, let me address some of the issues raised now.

1. I'm being emotional writing off Urhobos, Itsekiri, Ijaw, Edo from Biafran arrangement?
No. I'm only being pragmatic. Yes, I had visited some of those enclaves and I know the prevailing sentiments there.

Ask yourself this question, since Frathy started making Igbophobic comments here, including before now, how many times have you seen an Urhobo person come out here to criticize him for mis representing their stand? How many Ijaws have you seen criticize or antagonize Barcanista's Igbophobic stance on this forum? grin.
They all keep mute, you know why? Because those ones are reflecting their true stance on these issues.
So, in my honest opinion, the issue of impersonation or non impersonation is not the issue here. I'm also a member of Facebook pages of these groups were, I know what's obtainable there. And frathy and Barcanista mirrors them here to a T. It's not a co incidence.

2. I never insulted Urhobos, or any other minorities in my initial posts here, ( thank you Ikechukwu for pointing that out in my absence). I only pointed out that they are not part of Biafra( Which is exactly how these people see themselves) and that they are Igbophobic beings( which is also true). I did that because I know that the Igbophobia in these people take pleasure in being presented as desirable by naive Igbos, so that they could gleefully display their Igbohate, so I was quick to snuff that out, and as predicted, it bruised their fragile ego and made lots of them sad. You see, to these people, Igbo reaching out to them attracts hate, Igbo not reaching out to them, attracts even more hate.

3. Not knowing ones enemies is a very sure way to lose in life. These people are not neutrals, to be won over, no. These people are Igbophobic.
Not knowing our enemies was why Ojukwu saw a bitter rival like Awolowo as a neutral and was busy trying to win him over, when a better assessment could have revealed his Igbophobic nature and enabled Ojukwu to have a better assessment of issues.

4. I'm not against anyone trying to win these people over. I'm only saying that these people, for no known provocation or wrong doing on the part of Ndiigbo are extremely Igbophobic, and that there is no hiding of this big elephant in a room. Their Igbophobia must be established and every Igbo youth out there must know about them. We can't "come and go and" be repeating Ojukwu mistakes, mbanu! I guess Ojukwu considered himself a military strategist too.

How do you win over a group that hates you just because of your existence, for no wrong doing towards them on your part?

5. These people are all over the place expressing their Igbophobia, telling whoever cares to know, why they can't be part of Biafra. Yet here I am telling them that they are not in Biafran plans, one would expect them to be happy with the arrangement, but no, not these people, their innate Igbophobia dictates that they find fault in any thing the Igbo man does.
So, here they are crying over my posts, vomiting vitriolic Igbophobic posts everywhere, which I aptly responded in good measure, and then they turn around and say: " See! The Igbos are the hateful ones, they hate us all". grin

Special thanks to Nwasinachi, Ikechukwu, blue2020,hushuptimus,Omar12,Develpeast,Xtrose etc. I saw you guys contributions here, Ndi oma, Ndi oma.

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by thedarkside: 9:50am On Nov 22, 2016
BlackMbakara1:
Mbok remove Akwa cross from that map sharp sharp! Why should i trade one dictator hundred miles away to another dictator 3 miles away?

Are we not in this country and have seen what our "beloved" brothers have been doing to us? Please which tribe have been going to China to bring in fake products? Which tribe has been predominant in drug related activities? Which tribe is noted for notoriety in the supposed "Biafra" land.

A tribe that couldn't give their supposed "hero" 1 million vote during the presidential election...

A tribe that is filled with hate and resentment towards Akwa cross...NO i won't pretend to join them.

It's best we get an "Ibibio Nation".

haha.. grin

their own palaver have just start..

they never see chum chin yet.. grin
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by Nobody: 9:50am On Nov 22, 2016
thedarkside:


hmmm..here we go again..

na only igbos are killed ni??..

those that commited those crimes are criminals..simple..

its nothing personal against igbos...
Hey niga, don't do that shit. Don't be a woman on this case. Testimony abound on the motivation of the killing; and yes, Igbos are the most target group on Northern bullshit.... Igbos are the more vocals but other Southern group keep acting like them sissy.

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by IkpuMmadu: 9:51am On Nov 22, 2016
You guys are making his look as if you are important...we are looking at a Biafra country that is all Igbo speaking be it the Igbo tribes in Kogi, Benue, cross river or delta, akwaibom or Rivers...what we want and what will need is just strictly Igbo speaking people and they are in 40 million strong so ,I don't u dear and why these minorities are feeling funky

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by thedarkside: 9:53am On Nov 22, 2016
blues2022:

Too weak and childish. Come up with valid reasons, not those childish tantrum.

he is telling you,he dont want..

whats the problem??..

force him and the nigerian army will decend on you..

Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by thedarkside: 9:58am On Nov 22, 2016
blues2022:

Hey niga, don't do that shit. Don't be a woman on this case. Testimony abound on the motivation of the killing; and yes, Igbos are the most target group on Northern bullshit.... Igbos are the more vocals but other Southern group keep acting like them sissy.

tahhh....how many yorubas,hausas are killed yearly..?

you only see your own pain not the pains of others..

egoistic...
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by gidgiddy: 9:58am On Nov 22, 2016
thedarkside:


una still dey dream of referendums..

you are forgeting that this is africa not europe..

the fg will never approve it..

although i know many igbos would vote against biafra..

nigeria is a el dorado for igbos..

i dont think they will give the cash cow up just like that..

Every Government can approve referendum by executive order, it just depends on the pressure put on the Government to do so. Referendum has been conducted in Nigeria before, it is not new. Even if the Nigerian Government does not approve a referendum, it can still be conducted in the SE/SS using NGO's, the clergy and other civil rights organisation. The ethnic groups who then vote to leave can then agree amongst themselves that in the event of anything should causing the disintegration of Nigeria, to leave together as a separate country. This is what happend in Ukrain in 2014 when the Crimea Region conducted its own referendum without permission of Government. When Ukrain had a serious problem with Russia, they left.

Many Igbos wont vote for Biafra? maybe, but a referendum is about how the majority voted. Millions voted for Britain to stay in the EU but at the end of the day, it came down to what the majority wanted.

I dont know about Nigeria being an El dorado for Igbos. Nigeria is a small dot on the planet and the world is a big place. Its time for Igbos to be self govering in their own country outside Nigeria so that they can turn it into an El dorado for others

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by BlackMbakara1(m): 9:59am On Nov 22, 2016
blues2022:

Too weak and childish. Come up with valid reasons, not those childish tantrum.

Debunk what i've written, then i'll take you serious...
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by BlackMbakara1(m): 10:00am On Nov 22, 2016
thedarkside:


haha.. grin

their own palaver have just start..

they never see chum chin yet.. grin

No mind the hypocrites, they think everybody will fall for their grandstanding.
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by thedarkside: 10:04am On Nov 22, 2016
gidgiddy:


Every Government can approve referendum by executive order, it just depends on the pressure put on the Government to do so. Referendum has been conducted in Nigeria before, it is not new. Even if the Nigerian Government does not approve a referendum, it can still be conducted in the SE/SS using NGO's, the clergy and other civil rights organisation. The ethnic groups who then vote to leave can then agree amongst themselves that in the event of anything should causing the disintegration of Nigeria, to leave together as a separate country. This is what happend in Ukrain in 2014 when the Crimea Region conducted its own referendum without permission of Government. When Ukrain had a serious problem with Russia, they left.

Many Igbos wont vote for Biafra, maybe, but a referendum is about how the majority voted. Millions voted for Britain to stay in the EU but at the end of the day, it came down to what the majority wanted.

I dont know about Nigeria being an El dorado for Igbos. Nigeria is a small dot on the planet and the world is a big place. Its time for Igbos to be self govering in their own country outside Nigeria so that they can turn it into an El dorado for others

thats the point..

the fg will never approve a referendum in nigeria..

and nobody can force us to that...

we could hold it,but you will loose..

i dont see any igbo that has success in life voting for biafra...you will loose..

do you igbos even talk with each others sef?..

what the hell do you discuss in igbo the ol time?..

how come a urhobo can say for sure that the referendum will not end in your favour??..
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by thedarkside: 10:10am On Nov 22, 2016
BlackMbakara1:


No mind the hypocrites, they think everybody will fall for their grandstanding.

i dont know too..

the worst thing that could happen is,they get too bold and challenge the nigerian army..

that,we must prevent at all cost...
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by BlackMbakara1(m): 10:13am On Nov 22, 2016
thedarkside:


i dont know too..

the worst thing that could happen is,they get too bold and challenge the nigerian army..

that,we must prevent at all cost...

I wish them good luck on that...who wan fight? Ask the civil war heroes.
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by thedarkside: 10:14am On Nov 22, 2016
BlackMbakara1:


I wish them good luck on that...who wan fight? Ask the civil war heroes.

ohhh my... undecided
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by Nobody: 10:22am On Nov 22, 2016
BlackMbakara1:


Debunk what i've written, then i'll take you serious...
Your post reeks of excessive emotion.... come up with mature post, and get a mature reply. Inugo. cool

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by thedarkside: 10:22am On Nov 22, 2016
okay..

let me make something very clear to ipobians:

a war,you can not win (do you realy want to become like boko-haram,hiding day and night moving from one place to the other like nomads,its not even in your nature!)

a referendum you can not win..

putting your trust in western nations (didnt they colonized you too?)..



this is ridicoulous...stop it!..
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by OILSOUP: 10:31am On Nov 22, 2016
Develpeast:


An illiterate Yoruba man or Hausa man thinks you Igbo except you educate him and he'll say " you all are the same".

Who has treated you more like a brother, Yoruba's or Hausa's?

Yoruba man bombed your communities and a Hausa man took your resources and are going to kill your brothers again.

Now, what has the Igbo man done?
Except supporting every bill you propose in the senate, supporting your brother to be president. Voting your brothers as governor in delta state.

Now, what do you have to lose that you haven't lost?

Who have you lost them to?



So on point, i have nothing more to add.
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by OILSOUP: 10:34am On Nov 22, 2016
Wait the world is on the verge of finding an alternative resources to oil.


Some of them fail to understand that the Biafra struggle is to save them.
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by BlackMbakara1(m): 10:38am On Nov 22, 2016
blues2022:

Your post reeks of excessive emotion.... come up with mature post, and get a mature reply. Inugo. cool

Just what i wanted and he reacted, the tribe has been spoted...cry me a river.

Sorry Mr. Mature, there's a word called "waka-pass" if you felt my comment reeks with excessive emotion; that is what i call maturity.
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by pazienza(m): 10:46am On Nov 22, 2016
OILSOUP:
Wait the world is on the verge of finding an alternative resources to oil.


Some of them fail to understand that the Biafra struggle is to save them.

Why should the world find alternative to oil. Igboland ( Biafra)has our own oil to exploit too.
If well managed, in addition to our humongous natural gas reserves and coal, will set us up on the path of real industrialization.

The dormant industrial potentials of Aba, Nnewi and Onitsha can then be exploited to the fullest with guaranteed constant power supply and progressively innovative and aggressive government polices matching the people's potentials.

Think of how much we can make from food exports once agriculture is fully commercialized and industrialized in fertile lands of Ebonyi, Southern Imo,?Enu ani, Anambra North and other parts of Igboland, driven by cheap constant electricity.https://www.nairaland.com/3411643/man-harvests-30kg-cassava-ohaji

The possibilities are endless. Which is why I get pissed off when I see Ndiigbo lumping these Igbophobic elements with us.
How can they be this blind.
I mean, look at what one Igbo man is doing in rural Umuchukwu village. Think of what we can achieve together as a people, under an Igbo national progressive agenda.
Please, we don't need to save anyone, we need to save ourselves first. We need re orientation as a people.

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by thedarkside: 10:50am On Nov 22, 2016
OILSOUP:
Wait the world is on the verge of finding an alternative resources to oil.


Some of them fail to understand that the Biafra struggle is to save them.

save yourself...
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by waternogetenemy: 10:51am On Nov 22, 2016
Tiffbuxas:
take what speaks igbo and bloody leave what doesn't.... No urhoboman or itsekiri will let u rule them... Neither will the ijaws let u
Are u stupid? If igbo decide that u re Biafrans, u go fit fight Biafra Army. Thunder fire u there.

Ijaws are even more Biafra than igbos. It is highly likily they will reach a constitutional agreement on resource control, power sharing and various other modalities and form Biafra.


Read any history book, whereevr u hear igbo, ijaw and ibibio are not far off. fool
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by somegirl1: 10:52am On Nov 22, 2016
thedarkside:


the problem i have with biafra is that,if we deceide to realy push on with the biafra plans,our buy and sell power would be much less..

it will not be enough to compete with global-powers...

we will just be another powerless nation...and be toys for others...

in nigeria we have much more power with a fierce army that western nations fear...

Lol

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by waternogetenemy: 10:53am On Nov 22, 2016
Godgay:
are u a F**l what has Benin got to do with this why are insulting people that are living their lives are do care about yours,na Bini man be president,na we go give una Biafra,so binis are now coward I would love to see make this statement outside the British empire

Stay off my mention mumu Bini man grin.

Now i have insulted u and if u go further, i will insult the entire Bini nation. I will finish u people here.

Look at the attention seeker, quoting my comment that was not directed at Bini and neither an insult to Bini as an insullt.

U are a buffoon! cool
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by thedarkside: 10:54am On Nov 22, 2016
somegirl1:


Lol

ohh yes..we are the only black-nation that white people fear...

dont forget..

nigeria is called "the grave of the white-man"...
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by somegirl1: 10:55am On Nov 22, 2016
thedarkside:


ohh yes..we are the only black-nation that white people fear...

Lol

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by ak47mann(m): 10:55am On Nov 22, 2016
pazienza:
Got caught up by duty only to return to see 48 mentions.

I had taken time to read through arguments put forward by people especially my Igbo brothers in my absence, let me address some of the issues raised now.

1. I'm being emotional writing off Urhobos, Itsekiri, Ijaw, Edo from Biafran arrangement?
No. I'm only being pragmatic. Yes, I had visited some of those enclaves and I know the prevailing sentiments there.

Ask yourself this question, since Frathy started making Igbophobic comments here, including before now, how many times have you seen an Urhobo person come out here to criticize him for mis representing their stand? How many Ijaws have you seen criticize or antagonize Barcanista's Igbophobic stance on this forum? grin.
They all keep mute, you know why? Because those ones are reflecting their true stance on these issues.
So, in my honest opinion, the issue of impersonation or non impersonation is not the issue here. I'm also a member of Facebook pages of these groups were, I know what's obtainable there. And frathy and Barcanista mirrors them here to a T. It's not a co incidence.

2. I never insulted Urhobos, or any other minorities in my initial posts here, ( thank you Ikechukwu for pointing that out in my absence). I only pointed out that they are not part of Biafra( Which is exactly how these people see themselves) and that they are Igbophobic beings( which is also true). I did that because I know that the Igbophobia in these people take pleasure in being presented as desirable by naive Igbos, so that they could gleefully display their Igbohate, so I was quick to snuff that out, and as predicted, it bruised their fragile ego and made lots of them sad. You see, to these people, Igbo reaching out to them attracts hate, Igbo not reaching out to them, attracts even more hate.

3. Not knowing ones enemies is a very sure way to lose in life. These people are not neutrals, to be won over, no. These people are Igbophobic.
Not knowing our enemies was why Ojukwu saw a bitter rival like Awolowo as a neutral and was busy trying to win him over, when a better assessment could have revealed his Igbophobic nature and enabled Ojukwu to have a better assessment of issues.

4. I'm not against anyone trying to win these people over. I'm only saying that these people, for no known provocation or wrong doing on the part of Ndiigbo are extremely Igbophobic, and that there is no hiding of this big elephant in a room. Their Igbophobia must be establishing and every Igbo youth out there must know about them. We can't "come and go and" be repeating Ojukwu mistakes, mbanu! I guess Ojukwu considered himself a military strategist too.

How do you win over a group that hates you just because of your existence, for no wrong doing towards them on your part?

5. These people are all over the place expressing their Igbophobia, telling whoever cares to know, why they can't be part of Biafra. Yet here I am telling them that they are not in Biafran plans, one would expect them to be happy with the arrangement, but no, not these people, their innate Igbophobia dictates that they find fault in any thing the Igbo man does.
So, here they are crying over my posts, vomiting vitriolic Igbophobic posts everywhere, which I aptly responded in good measure, and then they turn around and say: " See! The Igbos are the hateful ones, they hate us all". grin

Special thanks to Nwasinachi, Ikechukwu, blue2020,hushuptimus,Omar12,Develpeast,Xtrose etc. I saw you guys contributions here, Ndi oma, Ndi oma.
you are right but we can't throw baby and the bath water away yet only time will tell cool
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by thedarkside: 10:59am On Nov 22, 2016
somegirl1:


Lol

you are sweet... smiley
Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by somegirl1: 11:01am On Nov 22, 2016
thedarkside:


you are sweet... smiley

Thanks hun smiley

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by nwasinachi(f): 11:01am On Nov 22, 2016
pazienza:
Got caught up by duty only to return to see 48 mentions.

I had taken time to read through arguments put forward by people especially my Igbo brothers in my absence, let me address some of the issues raised now.

1. I'm being emotional writing off Urhobos, Itsekiri, Ijaw, Edo from Biafran arrangement?
No. I'm only being pragmatic. Yes, I had visited some of those enclaves and I know the prevailing sentiments there.

Ask yourself this question, since Frathy started making Igbophobic comments here, including before now, how many times have you seen an Urhobo person come out here to criticize him for mis representing their stand? How many Ijaws have you seen criticize or antagonize Barcanista's Igbophobic stance on this forum? grin.
They all keep mute, you know why? Because those ones are reflecting their true stance on these issues.
So, in my honest opinion, the issue of impersonation or non impersonation is not the issue here. I'm also a member of Facebook pages of these groups were, I know what's obtainable there. And frathy and Barcanista mirrors them here to a T. It's not a co incidence.

2. I never insulted Urhobos, or any other minorities in my initial posts here, ( thank you Ikechukwu for pointing that out in my absence). I only pointed out that they are not part of Biafra( Which is exactly how these people see themselves) and that they are Igbophobic beings( which is also true). I did that because I know that the Igbophobia in these people take pleasure in being presented as desirable by naive Igbos, so that they could gleefully display their Igbohate, so I was quick to snuff that out, and as predicted, it bruised their fragile ego and made lots of them sad. You see, to these people, Igbo reaching out to them attracts hate, Igbo not reaching out to them, attracts even more hate.

3. Not knowing ones enemies is a very sure way to lose in life. These people are not neutrals, to be won over, no. These people are Igbophobic.
Not knowing our enemies was why Ojukwu saw a bitter rival like Awolowo as a neutral and was busy trying to win him over, when a better assessment could have revealed his Igbophobic nature and enabled Ojukwu to have a better assessment of issues.

4. I'm not against anyone trying to win these people over. I'm only saying that these people, for no known provocation or wrong doing on the part of Ndiigbo are extremely Igbophobic, and that there is no hiding of this big elephant in a room. Their Igbophobia must be establishing and every Igbo youth out there must know about them. We can't "come and go and" be repeating Ojukwu mistakes, mbanu! I guess Ojukwu considered himself a military strategist too.

How do you win over a group that hates you just because of your existence, for no wrong doing towards them on your part?

5. These people are all over the place expressing their Igbophobia, telling whoever cares to know, why they can't be part of Biafra. Yet here I am telling them that they are not in Biafran plans, one would expect them to be happy with the arrangement, but no, not these people, their innate Igbophobia dictates that they find fault in any thing the Igbo man does.
So, here they are crying over my posts, vomiting vitriolic Igbophobic posts everywhere, which I aptly responded in good measure, and then they turn around and say: " See! The Igbos are the hateful ones, they hate us all". grin

Special thanks to Nwasinachi, Ikechukwu, blue2020,hushuptimus,Omar12,Develpeast,Xtrose etc. I saw you guys contributions here, Ndi oma, Ndi oma.
nwa, igbu go m, dalu ri nne

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Re: Why Niger Deltans Won't Subscribe To The Biafran Movement by pazienza(m): 11:03am On Nov 22, 2016
ak47mann:
you are right but we can't throw baby and the bath water away yet only time will tell cool

Unfortunately, a baby is innocent and harmless, hence redeemable.

These people are not babies, are Igbophobic, and indeed very dangerous. They are irredeemable.

Permit my literal interpretations of your proverb.

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