chic2pimp:


One word my man "Consistency". If He was churning out 7/10 performances week in week out instead of His usual 9/10 one week 3/10 the following week, we won''t be having this debate. The Talent and Ability is clearly there

No great footballer except Messi or Ronaldo churns out good performance consistently. Even the great Zidane his first few months in Madrid he was underwhelming until late in the 02 cl before he started showing that a top class footballer is needed in key moments not against Charlton atletic

I'm ok with boatank reeling out 9 in world cup final and 3 vs Rostov compared to Terry who reels out 7 vs hull city but 4 in cl finals and 0 in big national team games

It was vs a young German team in South Africa

Terrys last world cup game

"John Terry 4
Culpable, like Upson, for the first goal. His full-blooded but increasingly static style was no match for the quick feet around him."

"Terry- 4: Completely misjudged the long ball that led to Klose's goal and after a brilliant display against Slovenia he ended his tournament as a flop along with several of his team-mates."

"John Terry: 4/10
Caught out of position and misjudged the ball for Germany’s opener. Shared Upson’s inability to shackle Klose. Time is catching up with him."

"John Terry
Was pulled apart by Germany's forwards and lightning counter attacks. It has been a turbulent World Cup for Terry and struggled to command his defence."

raumdeuter:


How many awards did those you mentioned who won the world cup for Germany win compared to Beckham gerrard Lampard Terry Cole Ferdinand and the other English national team fools

How many of those awards did hummels howedes schweinsteiger khedira Ozil Schurrle Kroos Gotze win compared to the English ones

What kind of rubbish post is this ? Neuer was inferior to who? A certain oboabona will get his azz covered with neuer keeping , just like he always covered for that useless boathand. Ajakaja was asking how boathand could win despite having inferior players playing with him. Anytime bayern and germany won major competition, there's a reason the likes of muller,kroos, lahm, neuer and co got individual awards while the calamitous alagolo got ignored. Sensible analysts knew those whose consistent good performances won the trophies. Neuer won the best keeper award, muller won double, second best scorer and second best player. kroos , hummels , muller, neuer were in team of the tournament. Only a f00l will be banking on single above average performance of a senseless defender.

A40:

You are ret@rded beyond belief Olorun. I know you were still hunting for okete in some bush in Saki without access to any internet facility when your EPL comrades openly boasted about Joe Hart being better than Neuer, Evra and Ashley Cole better than Lahm, Rooney better than Müller, Joe Cole better than Schweinsteiger amongst many erin ke ke l'agbole Baba Suwe comparisons. [s]No be for Chelsea thread them do all star XI btw Bayern and Chelsea with a lot of fans putting as many as 8 Chelsea players in the team. Unless you lowkey want to tell us they are insane
Phoolish data center olode. You didn't even know the antecedents of my statement. You just ran to quote. What an ewok!
It is oponus like you that wear sunglasses in the night. Your brain is as useless as a candle in the sun[/s]

Your referring to other people's opinions in years back shows how clueless you are. Those may even be moment-based opinions, and thats none of my business. When bayern and germany won ucl and world cup respectively, their main players like neuer, alaba/lahm, robben /muller churned out great performances consistently. They didnt wait for the final match before impressing. Let's assume neuer also decided to shine only in final matches, how would his team have got to the final? These guys ensure for every error committed by boathand, they rose up to cover his azz. But these days muller, ribery and co are tired of always rescuing a failure called boathand. Boathand is the most useless defender playing for a top club in europe. This last match is an evidence of what neuer has been suffering with boathand's horrible defending over the years.

I don't understand..Did the former Presdido just vacate the sit for him?

airmark:


What kind of rubbish post is this ? Neuer was inferior to who? A certain oboabona will get his azz covered with neuer keeping , just like he always covered for that useless boathand. Ajakaja was asking how boathand could win despite having inferior players playing with him. Anytime bayern and germany won major competition, there's a reason the likes of muller,kroos, lahm, neuer and co got individual awards while the calamitous alagolo got ignored. Sensible analysts knew those whose consistent good performances won the trophies. Neuer won the best keeper award, muller won double, second best scorer and second best player. kroos , hummels , muller, neuer were in team of the tournament. Only a f00l will be banking on single above average performance of a senseless defender.

You are foolish

Terry multiple FIFPro, Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard, Cashley Rio etc all multiple award winners before the world cup. How come the German team who has way fewer award winners FIFpro eleven inspired by Boatank won the world cup final, while Terry cannot inspire a group of FIFpro regulars to even make a semi final

That must mean that the FIFPro is worthless or Terry infected the good players with his cluelessness and made them lose

bykebyke:
I don't understand..Did the former Presdido just vacate the sit for him?

Ulli is Bayern, after his personal struggles we opened the way for him to be back to his former position.

Now Bayern is back Ulli is back

raumdeuter:


Ulli is Bayern, after his personal struggles we opened the way for him to be back to his former position.

Now Bayern is back Ulli is back

Okay o.

Just surprised at how the switch was done effortlessly.

raumdeuter:


You are foolish

[s]Terry multiple FIFPro, Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard, Cashley Rio etc all multiple award winners before the world cup. How come the German team who has way fewer award winners FIFpro eleven[/s] inspired by Boatank won the world cup final, [s]while Terry cannot inspire a group of FIFpro regulars to even make a semi final

That must mean that the FIFPro is worthless or Terry infected the good players with his cluelessness and made them lose[/s]

German team inspired by Boathand ?

bykebyke:
Okay o.
Just surprised at how the switch was done effortlessly.

Most of Bayern succcess is owed to Ulli Hoeness, who got injured at 28 and managed Bayern to being one of the top teams in EUrope

Mia San Ulli

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airmark:
German team inspired by Boathand ?

Yes you heard me right Inspired like the below. Not on polls or in ballot box. But on the field with verifiable action

Jérôme Boateng 9

Made a vital clearance after a surging run from Messi and was always quick to snuff out danger. Quick, calm and authoritative, his displays in Brazil have been a revelation and he was man of the match
Jérôme Boateng was man of the match, Lionel Messi menaced the German defence and Philipp Lahm ran riot
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/13/germany-argentina-brazil-2014-worlds-cup-final-player-ratings

for Germany there was Jérôme Boateng and Philipp Lahm – as they thwarted attack after attack
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10964539/World-Cup-2014-Bastian-Schweinsteiger-drives-Germany-to-victory-in-enthralling-final.html

Jerome Boateng (Defender) - 9

Jerome Boateng
Got better as the match progressed. Made a number of important tackles and clearances after initially being troubled by the pace of the Argentine counter-attacks. The Bayern centre-back was dominant and was Germany's star performer. Man of the match.

Rio Ferdinand's view: "Boateng was immense today."
http://www.bbc.com.b.tldw.me/sport/football/28286068

This is how to boss a world cup final

raumdeuter:


[s]Yes you heard me right Inspired like the below. Not on polls or in ballot box. But on the field with verifiable action

Jérôme Boateng 9

Made a vital clearance after a surging run from Messi and was always quick to snuff out danger. Quick, calm and authoritative, his displays in Brazil have been a revelation and he was man of the match
Jérôme Boateng was man of the match, Lionel Messi menaced the German defence and Philipp Lahm ran riot
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/13/germany-argentina-brazil-2014-worlds-cup-final-player-ratings

for Germany there was Jérôme Boateng and Philipp Lahm – as they thwarted attack after attack
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10964539/World-Cup-2014-Bastian-Schweinsteiger-drives-Germany-to-victory-in-enthralling-final.html

Jerome Boateng (Defender) - 9

Jerome Boateng
Got better as the match progressed. Made a number of important tackles and clearances after initially being troubled by the pace of the Argentine counter-attacks. The Bayern centre-back was dominant and was Germany's star performer. Man of the match.
[/s]
Rio Ferdinand's view: "Boateng was immense today."


This is how to boss a world cup final

Ferdinand saying boathand was immense today is loaded with meaning. Boathad is known as a useless defender and when he played slightly above average everyone was shocked. That's a minus for him . Great defenders like nesta, maldini, terry cannavaro and co didn't choose games to perform well in and those to make massive blunders to punish their teams. Experts knew boathands performance in the final was a fluke and only f00ls would fall for it and put him in team of the tournament. Legends give top-notch performaces over and over again. He didnt win a motm award in any match, fifa didnt recognise him as one of the best players in the competition. Who did alago inspire then ? Legendary defenders at 27 should be at their peaks and wouldnt have allowed an iranian rookie to sodomise them like that. Boathand's quality can be categorised with the likes of huth , smalling and co. He is in tier 3 of great defenders. The likes of umtiti, koulibaly, zouma, kocielny, kompany and co are technically better than him.

Boathand beasting the ball senselessly out of the pitch in world cup final
[img]http:///media/11-17-2016/mgTImj.gif[/img]


Hummels rescuing the situation after a stvpid header by alago. One wonders if this kind of thing is inspiring to apri oloridota ramuzaki.
[img]http:///media/11-17-2016/-yHU1c.gif[/img]




Boathand looking clueless allowing messi lincence to kill neuer. Neuer must have been inspired by this defensive blunder

[img]http:///media/11-17-2016/5_KBpT.gif[/img]

airmark:


Ferdinand saying boathand was immense today is loaded with meaning. Boathad is known as a useless defender and when he played slightly above average everyone was shocked. That's a minus for him . Great defenders like nesta, maldini, terry cannavaro and co didn't choose games to perform well in and those to make massive blunders to punish their teams. Experts knew boathands performance in the final was a fluke and only f00ls would fall for it and put him in team of the tournament. Legends give top-notch performaces over and over again. He didnt win a motm award in any match, fifa didnt recognise him as one of the best players in the competition. Who did alago inspire then ? Legendary defenders at 27 should be at their peaks and wouldnt have allowed an iranian rookie to sodomise them like that. Boathand's quality can be categorised with the likes of huth , smalling and co. He is in tier 3 of great defenders. The likes of umtiti, koulibaly, zouma, kocielny, kompany and co are technically better than him.

Your lack of a proper formal education will always let you down. EVeryone watched Boatak at the world cup final and were full of praises for him

Your Koscielny shebi he was at the Uro cup, even made the final then whatbecame of him? shebi he was also at the world cup what became of him Same with Kompany all the others dont even deserve a mention

When any of the tools you have in mind either playing in your league or your club legend have rave reviews like the below in a world cup final. The greatest football match get back to me

Jérôme Boateng 9

Made a vital clearance after a surging run from Messi and was always quick to snuff out danger.[size=15pt] Quick, calm and authoritative, his displays in Brazil have been a revelation and he was man of the match[/size]
Jérôme Boateng was man of the match, Lionel Messi menaced the German defence and Philipp Lahm ran riot
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/13/germany-argentina-brazil-2014-worlds-cup-final-player-ratings

for Germany there was Jérôme Boateng and Philipp Lahm – as they thwarted attack after attack
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10964539/World-Cup-2014-Bastian-Schweinsteiger-drives-Germany-to-victory-in-enthralling-final.html

Jerome Boateng (Defender) - 9

Jerome Boateng
Got better as the match progressed. Made a number of important tackles and clearances after initially being troubled by the pace of the Argentine counter-attacks. The Bayern centre-back was dominant and was Germany's star performer. Man of the match.

Rio Ferdinand's view: "Boateng was immense today."
http://www.bbc.com.b.tldw.me/sport/football/28286068

After reading Boatanks last world cup game reviews lets now Rea Terry's last world cup game reviews

Terrys last world cup game

"John Terry 4
Culpable, like Upson, for the first goal. His full-blooded but increasingly static style was no match for the quick feet around him."

"Terry- 4: Completely misjudged the long ball that led to Klose's goal and after a brilliant display against Slovenia he ended his tournament as a flop along with several of his team-mates."

"John Terry: 4/10
Caught out of position and misjudged the ball for Germany’s opener. Shared Upson’s inability to shackle Klose. Time is catching up with him."

"John Terry
Was pulled apart by Germany's forwards and lightning counter attacks. It has been a turbulent World Cup for Terry and struggled to command his defence."

Summary, Terry was static, Terry ended the tournament as a flop, he was caught out of position, he struggled to command his defence

WHile Boatank was quick calm and authoritative, he was dominant, he was a star performer, he was immense

Now can you take this to anyone around you with a formal education and let them interprete those description to you

raumdeuter:


[s]Your lack of a proper formal education will always let you down. EVeryone watched Boatak at the world cup final and were full of praises for him

Your Koscielny shebi he was at the Uro cup, even made the final then whatbecame of him? shebi he was also at the world cup what became of him Same with Kompany all the others dont even deserve a mention

When any of the tools you have in mind either playing in your league or your club legend have rave reviews like the below in a world cup final. The greatest football match get back to me

Jérôme Boateng 9

Made a vital clearance after a surging run from Messi and was always quick to snuff out danger.[size=15pt] Quick, calm and authoritative, his displays in Brazil have been a revelation and he was man of the match[/size]
Jérôme Boateng was man of the match, Lionel Messi menaced the German defence and Philipp Lahm ran riot
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/13/germany-argentina-brazil-2014-worlds-cup-final-player-ratings

for Germany there was Jérôme Boateng and Philipp Lahm – as they thwarted attack after attack
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10964539/World-Cup-2014-Bastian-Schweinsteiger-drives-Germany-to-victory-in-enthralling-final.html

Jerome Boateng (Defender) - 9

Jerome Boateng
Got better as the match progressed. Made a number of important tackles and clearances after initially being troubled by the pace of the Argentine counter-attacks. The Bayern centre-back was dominant and was Germany's star performer. Man of the match.

Rio Ferdinand's view: "Boateng was immense today."
http://www.bbc.com.b.tldw.me/sport/football/28286068[/s]

[img]http:///media/11-24-2016/u1Y47i.gif[/img]


Disgraced Boathand, breaking records for bayern with ease. No wonder everyone was angry with him after the match.

airmark:
Disgraced Boathand, breaking records for bayern with ease. No wonder everyone was angry with him after the match.

After reading Boatanks last world cup game reviews lets now Rea Terry's last world cup game reviews
Terrys last world cup game
"John Terry 4
Culpable, like Upson, for the first goal. His full-blooded but increasingly static style was no match for the quick feet around him."
"Terry- 4: Completely misjudged the long ball that led to Klose's goal and after a brilliant display against Slovenia he ended his tournament as a flop along with several of his team-mates."
"John Terry: 4/10
Caught out of position and misjudged the ball for Germany’s opener. Shared Upson’s inability to shackle Klose. Time is catching up with him."
"John Terry
Was pulled apart by Germany's forwards and lightning counter attacks. It has been a turbulent World Cup for Terry and struggled to command his defence."
Summary, Terry was static, Terry ended the tournament as a flop, he was caught out of position, he struggled to command his defence
WHile Boatank was quick calm and authoritative, he was dominant, he was a star performer, he was immense
Now can you take this to anyone around you with a formal education and let them interprete those description to you

raumdeuter:


No great footballer except Messi or Ronaldo churns out good performance consistently. Even the great Zidane his first few months in Madrid he was underwhelming until late in the 02 cl before he started showing that a top class footballer is needed in key moments not against Charlton atletic

I'm ok with boatank reeling out 9 in world cup final and 3 vs Rostov compared to Terry who reels out 7 vs hull city but 4 in cl finals and 0 in big national team games

It was vs a young German team in South Africa

Terrys last world cup game

"John Terry 4
Culpable, like Upson, for the first goal. His full-blooded but increasingly static style was no match for the quick feet around him."

"Terry- 4: Completely misjudged the long ball that led to Klose's goal and after a brilliant display against Slovenia he ended his tournament as a flop along with several of his team-mates."

"John Terry: 4/10
Caught out of position and misjudged the ball for Germany’s opener. Shared Upson’s inability to shackle Klose. Time is catching up with him."

"John Terry
Was pulled apart by Germany's forwards and lightning counter attacks. It has been a turbulent World Cup for Terry and struggled to command his defence."

I have a feeling this is develop into a never ending back and forth roundabout however I don't have Airmark kind of energy. One quick question though. Where would you rate the likes of Lucio, Ramos and Pique in comparison to Jerome and John? They all also have CL and Worldcup Medals in their trophy room.

chic2pimp:


I have a feeling this is develop into a never ending back and forth roundabout however I don't have Airmark kind of energy. One quick question though. Where would you rate the likes of Lucio, Ramos and Pique in comparison to Jerome and John? They all also have CL and Worldcup Medals in their trophy room.

They are all way better than John Terry and can be compared to Boatank. Terry is in the lower rung of defendersthe only thing he has going for him is that he is English and gets criminally overrated

What Lucio did in that 2010 CL or in the 2002 Wrld cup Terry cannot even come close

Una suppose deh post formation for this thread o.

raumdeuter:


They are all way better than John Terry and can be compared to Boatank. Terry is in the lower rung of defendersthe only thing he has going for him is that he is English and gets criminally overrated

What Lucio did in that 2010 CL or in the 2002 Wrld cup Terry cannot even come close

You still haven't answered my question. Are they individually better than Boateng or not? Overrated by whom? Uefa?Fifa? Or Dayo?

So the likes of Pique Is better than JT? How so? Because He had the luxury of playing in the Spain's and Barca's golden era?

chic2pimp:
You still haven't answered my question. Are they individually better than Boateng or not? Overrated by whom? Uefa?Fifa? Or Dayo?

So the likes of Pique Is better than JT? How so? Because He had the luxury of playing in the Spain's and Barca's golden era?

Pique and Ramos are all better than Terry and are on the same level with Boatank. The choice of who is better will just be personal preference

Pique wasnt lucky to be there he was one of the core of the team

The 08 treble, 2010 world cup, 2012 Euro 2015 treble Pique Busquets and Iniesta were the only thing constant there. So Pique was lucky to be there, Busquets was lucky to be there, who were the ones who made the team? After puyol left he stepped up his game and has been better than Terry ever was in his entire career

Terry is a poor defender who only lived on hype when we ask for Terrys performances in big game its like asking for what doesnt exist. They will tell us he has this award that award yet when we check the game we see a litany of errors

raumdeuter:


Pique and Ramos are all better than Terry and are on the same level with Boatank. The choice of who is better will just be personal preference

Pique wasnt lucky to be there he was one of the core of the team

The 08 treble, 2010 world cup, 2012 Euro 2015 treble Pique Busquets and Iniesta were the only thing constant there. So Pique was lucky to be there, Busquets was lucky to be there, who were the ones who made the team? After puyol left he stepped up his game and has been better than Terry ever was in his entire career

Terry is a poor defender who only lived on hype when we ask for Terrys performances in big game its like asking for what doesnt exist. They will tell us he has this award that award yet when we check the game we see a litany of errors

May be Pique is better on NL Bayern forum but Fifa and Uefa seem to disagree. Also it is not the same Lucio you used to knock all the time for His frequent lapses in concentration?

If we are talking about key players in that Era of dominance, Puyol would be the first defender to spring to mind not Pique. Even Mascherano a Midfielder heck even Toure looked like a beast when asked to play Centre Defence in that team. Apart from one Dayo on NL, no one considers Pique the better player.

People bring up individual awards to back up their arguments because as it is states on the tin, it's down to your own individual performances not some team effort of some sort.

chic2pimp:


May be Pique is better on NL Bayern forum but Fifa and Uefa seem to disagree. Also it is not the same Lucio you used to knock all the time for His frequent lapses in concentration?

If we are talking about key players in that Era of dominance,Puyol would be the first defender to spring to mind not Pique. Even Mascherano a Midfielder heck even Toure looked like a beast when asked to play Centre Defence in that team. Apart from one Dayo on NL, no one considers Pique the better player.

People bring up individual awards to back up their arguments because as it is states on the tin, it's down to your own individual performances not some team effort of some sort.

*whistles*

airmark:

Your referring to other people's opinions in years back shows how clueless you are. Those may even be moment-based opinions, and thats none of my business. When bayern and germany won ucl and world cup respectively, their main players like neuer, alaba/lahm, robben /muller churned out great performances consistently. They didnt wait for the final match before impressing. Let's assume neuer also decided to shine only in final matches, how would his team have got to the final? These guys ensure for every error committed by boathand, they rose up to cover his azz. But these days muller, ribery and co are tired of always rescuing a failure called boathand. Boathand is the most useless defender playing for a top club in europe. This last match is an evidence of what neuer has been suffering with boathand's horrible defending over the years.

You need electro compulsive therapy. Stewpid ewu gambia. Boateng's teammates were perceived to be inferior to Terry's even after Bayern won a treble. Are you trying to tell us your fellow Chelsea fans were insane.

Secondly anyone with a functional brain knows individual awards don't tell the entire story. Did you expect the entire World Cup XI to consist of German players? So a backline that already had Neuer, Lahm, Hummels you expect them to add Boateng to the list? Shey na only Germany participate for the World Cup? When Italy and Spain won the WC did the entire winning team make the all star list. Does it mean the other players did not perform

Ozuo! At the Euros only Boateng and Kimmich made the all star team. Where were Hummels and Neuer? This must mean they were trash or what is this beast of burden on about

chic2pimp:


You still haven't answered my question. Are they individually better than Boateng or not? Overrated by whom? Uefa?Fifa? Or Dayo?

So the likes of Pique Is better than JT? How so? Because He had the luxury of playing in the Spain's and Barca's golden era?

Baba abeg wetin make John Racist better pass Pique? People throw that Barca line all the time but Pique also performs for Spain. John Racist is arguably the most overrated player in Association football history

Hummels ball watching as usual

chic2pimp:
May be Pique is better on NL Bayern forum but Fifa and Uefa seem to disagree. Also it is not the same Lucio you used to knock all the time for His frequent lapses in concentration?

If we are talking about key players in that Era of dominance, Puyol would be the first defender to spring to mind not Pique. Even Mascherano a Midfielder heck even Toure looked like a beast when asked to play Centre Defence in that team. Apart from one Dayo on NL, no one considers Pique the better player.

People bring up individual awards to back up their arguments because as it is states on the tin, it's down to your own individual performances not some team effort of some sort.

According to FIFA and UEFA England is a better team than Germany since they had better players than Germany. Beckham Gerrard, Lampard, Terry Scholes Cashley were winning these individual awards regularly while the German side of Schweini, Hummels, Boatank, Howedes, Kroos, Khedira, Schurrle Gotze werent

So according to FIFA and UEFA, England is better only one Dayo on NL doesnt agree with FIFA

Thats the thing, Terry doesnt have on the field performance to point to its always awards. Great players always point to their great plays in big games, Only the useless ones like Terry only have awards as evidence they were ever footballers

Not only Dayo however trophies won on the field disagree, Terry is the great players in polls and ballot, but on the field disappears as usual

Show us a great game from Terry in a CL final, Euro final or world cup final. Mba the only evidence is to go check awards

A40:

Baba abeg wetin make John Racist better pass Pique? People throw that Barca line all the time but Pique also performs for Spain. John Racist is arguably the most overrated player in Association football history

Ask them who are these Spain and Barca golden era?

The only constant players in the success from 2009 till date are Puyol, Busquets and Iniesta yet they tell us Pique and Busquets are not good enough is it the ghosts thats doing the playing

Who is that dude downgrading Legend Pique?

Do I need to tell you how he has singlehandedly upheld our defense against strong oppositions? Against Arsenal where Puyol got a red card, Arsenal never scored a goal after that. Against Sevilla kor in Copa del Rey FINAL?

How he carried make shift midfielders com defenders in Toure and Mash?

Anyone that pitches Pique and Terry in the same sentence again need to be kissed by lightening.

Nonsense

bykebyke:

*whistles*

My point still stands. Puyol was the KEY performer in that defensive lineup with Ramos the next best.

A40:

Baba abeg wetin make John Racist better pass Pique? People throw that Barca line all the time but Pique also performs for Spain. John Racist is arguably the most overrated player in Association football history

Better Defender and Leader. Uefa and Fifa seem to agree with too. The only place where there is even an argument of some sort is on NL.

Debroslink:
Who is that dude downgrading Legend Pique?

Do I need to tell you how he has singlehandedly upheld our defense against strong oppositions? Against Arsenal where Puyol got a red card, Arsenal never scored a goal after that. Against Sevilla kor in Copa del Rey FINAL?

How he carried make shift midfielders com defenders in Toure and Mash?

Anyone that pitches Pique and Terry in the same sentence again need to be kissed by lightening.

Nonsense

He did not carry Nada. Your midfield and Striking Force did most of the carrying.

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According to FIFA and UEFA England is a better team than Germany since they had better players than Germany. Beckham Gerrard, Lampard, Terry Scholes Cashley were winning these individual awards regularly while the German side of Schweini, Hummels, Boatank, Howedes, Kroos, Khedira, Schurrle Gotze werent

So according to FIFA and UEFA, England is better only one Dayo on NL doesnt agree with FIFA

Thats the thing, Terry doesnt have on the field performance to point to its always awards. Great players always point to their great plays in big games, Only the useless ones like Terry only have awards as evidence they were ever footballers

Not only Dayo however trophies won on the field disagree, Terry is the great players in polls and ballot, but on the field disappears as usual

Show us a great game from Terry in a CL final, Euro final or world cup final. Mba the only evidence is to go check awards

The portugese team that won the Euros were pretty much uninspiring. How comes the more talented Germans, Spanish and Belgians did not win it all eh? That's why we love the beautiful game.

Some dudes on NL believe Boa/Pique to be the better player whilst Seasoned Journalist at Uefa and Fifa wholly disagree