Olu317:
Useremagbo was once the name the people of ife were called, where on earth did you think Yoruba's gbo, igbo, ugbo came out from if Obatala was the one addressed as oseremagbo. Having said, let's us now apply wisdom from the depth of yoruba's understanding, Oduduwa dislodged Obatala as the new leader, there after we were called different names until the adoption of the descendants of Oduduwa. If logic works then perhaps, the change in power of the leadership brought about the new name we are addressed presently . Then I gave a deep and deeper thought to understand the style and the name of Oduduwa, the name itself was coined because according to oral history, the ife spiritualist of IFA occult brought 'bout Odu-du-wa ( ODU-DA-UWA/IWA)which was a bit different from the way the man's name were told to be called, ranging from Adah or Aadu or Adua or Dua or Dan. In all of these logic application,one out these names may be synonym with the way his name was pronounced . However the people of IFE/UFE seemed to had loved him the because he was a good man and a great leader from all perspective. He was initiated into cult groups at ILE IFE,even mended fences with Obatala .So if we are now been addressed as children of Odu'a, then it is self explanatory. Then on Baba Yemi Elebuibon ,he knows deep about Yoruba history and very deep IFA priest, who will affirm to it as Yoruba being called Useremagbo and near East theory. Part of this theory is also enshrined ODU IFA.. Have we even check who ORUNMILA( ur-mu- ela)(Orun -mo -eni -ma-la )( the heavens know who shall succeed) Was?,.lastly equip yourself with books such as.... Johnson ( Yoruba history from earliest time), Hess(L ' â nègre) 1898:164-166, Oates (Fall of Assyrians)1991:168,170,174f,Dierk Lange (ancient kingdom of West Africa. Africa-centred and Canaanite -Israelites perspective, Origin of Yoruba and “the lost tribe of Israelites". Read these books and see if Yoruba is speaking the truth or not about their history relating to Middle East.

Could Oduduwa have been a title, rather than a name?

There are peculiar habits with the ancients and much of that is lost. For instance they will date an event by the season or a human catastrophy. Similarly promiment rulers were not called names . They were addressed by their titles.

Pharaoh
Nebuchadnezzar
Alaafin
Awujale
Ooni
Alake
Oba

Could Oduduwa be a title, and not a name?

As a matter of fact it can be argued to be a title given to him or DESCRIPTION of his PERSONALITY. IFA is at the height of description is called ODU IFA. what if IFA was the link to his name's description. My people ILE IFE is enshrined in secrecy and filled with all sort of groups involved in spiritualism. There is even a rumour about a crown worn ONCE every SEVEN years by the Ooni that it is believed that it so mystical that it beads walks ...But all these and more can't be revealed except you join the occult groups and once you join... then you will be told “ENU AWO MA NWO"(you can't talk or say what your eyes has seen) . There is more to The man called Oduduwa than what we can understand. But some ancient link remains to show where we come from at ILE IFE. Take for instance the mystical Aare crown and the years it has existed. perhaps it could tell us more about Odua

Olu317:
As a matter of fact it can be argued to be a title given to him or DESCRIPTION of his PERSONALITY. IFA is at the height of description is called ODU IFA. what if IFA was the link to his name's description. My people ILE IFE is enshrined in secrecy and filled with all sort of groups involved in spiritualism. There is even a rumour about a crown worn ONCE every SEVEN years by the Ooni that it is believed that it so mystical that it beads walks ...But all these and more can't be revealed except you join the occult groups and once you join... then you will be told “ENU AWO MA NWO"(you can't talk or say what your eyes has seen) . There is more to The man called Oduduwa than what we can understand. But some ancient link remains to show where we come from at ILE IFE. Take for instance the mystical Aare crown and the years it has existed. perhaps it could tell us more about Odua

When you watch this video, you will understand were Oduduwa came from and what the symbols written on the Oramiyan Staff in Ile Ife mean.
It simply means ISRAEL

Watch The Video



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W93OnjSgk5k

@Peterakabba, May almighty El that Yoruba calls Eledumare bless you...For supporting my point .Like I have said earlier the worship of SKULL of the heads of the dead king in ISREAL during OMRIDE dynasty is still worshipped today in ILE IFE under the worship of OBATALA cult .For those of us who are yet to believe YORUBA are jews should check out the inscription code on ORANMIYAN staff (sign on OPA oranmiyan ) via The link @peterAkabba above me gave .... even IFA is mentioned by the researcher who naturally isn't African....Being Jew is something else but a Yoruba man is much like it. Proudly Yoruba blood.

The whites were the one that were curious about Yorubas culture because seeing resemblance with ancient Israelites marvelled them as it is related to Yoruba traditional way of worship which mentioned ONLY GOD as Supreme being, our creation myth that mentioned about a white bird/hen and how earth was created through the sand being spread on earthly surface which looked almost like biblical creation of dove like from God. Some other questions we are yet to answer ourselves which researchers of Yoruba people need work on are the reasons, Yoruba prostrate as a mean of salutation to kings, parents and elderly ones which same way as ancient Israel, The reason why Yoruba has the highest twin birth in the world, why do Yoruba original word for Baba was and is still Ba/Abba re which mean the same as Ancient Hebrew/aramaic word abbah,?why they have outstanding spiritual leaders yet the men of God aren't noisy in the world? ,why Yoruba see themselves as sons of God and not children of slaves God (having nothing to do with Christianity), No part of Yoruba history don't differentiate Yoruba and slaves born which found in the ancient Yoruba's Lineage praise .Why are the Yoruba located in the most blessed region with a very good arable land?,Our history is beyond ILE IFE but we accept it as the new found ancient home of yoruba people.....Mo si nbo

Olu317:
@Peterakabba, May almighty El that Yoruba calls Eledumare bless you...For supporting my point .Like I have said earlier the worship of SKULL of the heads of the dead king in ISREAL during OMRIDE dynasty is still worshipped today in ILE IFE under the worship of OBATALA cult .For those of us who are yet to believe YORUBA are jews should check out the inscription code on ORANMIYAN staff (sign on OPA oranmiyan ) via The link @peterAkabba above me gave .... even IFA is mentioned by the researcher who naturally isn't African....Being Jew is something else but a Yoruba man is much like it. Proudly Yoruba blood.

Yorubas cannot be Jews.

Israel is a sub-culture of Canaanite. Yoruba is a conglomeration of cultures in the Nilotic and Euphratic regions. They followed a single King-Priest, Oduduwa, in the manner Children of Israel followed Prophet Moses and Priest Aaron when they exited Egypt.

The mark left by Oranmiyan is what Greeks adopted as the trident, a symbolism of the seafaring Phoenicians. It is exactly the Staff seen with the current Ooni of Ife. The Staff of Oranmiyan, or the Trident.

Trident is also associated with Neptune, the sea god...or Olokun!

Could Oranmiyan's roots through his ancestral blood from Oduduwa be connected with the Phoenicians (also known as the Canaanites)?

Could the Aare crown in Ile-Ife have origin to Aaron, the Biblical High Priest?

The rest of the World and Greek were biased simply because, they found it impossible for the jews to be black and claimed that the code symbolises phonecians but it is Possible for jews to be black . It was Until recent past findings which kept the researchers to begin to understand factors that could lead the jews being black. Note, the jews married from ancient cush and ancient Egypt,so it was possible for their complexion to have become darker mixed race since 10,000BC of years existing before and after Jesus Christ came to planet earth 2000 years ago. The latest finding on the the oranmiyan staff has been translated by the historians looking out for the ten lost tribe of Israel. And this translation on Opa oranmiyan meant “ISREAL", which was the name Yoruba were once called USERE. The Isrealite were the only group of people that consult God through their seer/prophet to ask if they could win war against their ENEMIES. Exactly 2020 another report on the latest development of the lost tribe of Israel will be reviewed. It was last done in 2010. There are many unique things about Yoruba people,do we not see?, Take for instance, The jews are always accommodating, Yorubas are. The Jews are simple and peaceful in nature, Yorubas are . The Jews are conservatives in nature Yorubas are. The Jews obey authority, Yorubas does the same. The Jews don't fight but once they are attacked, they fight like bees, Yoruba does the same. Even when the Jews were in captivity their voice were heard the same with Yorubas( the only African group that made the South America white recognised them as Sango and IFA worshippers through their strong will mindsets ).Little were known of the other coloured people till date. The Jews are rebellious against injustice in nature Yorubas are too. The Jews believe a good name is better than soiled riches, the Yoruba do. The k
Jews believe in power of the tongue to command nothing into physical manifestation into reality (conjure) Yoruba do. The Jews have unique brains, Yoruba do( how can it be possible if not special brain from God for Reverend Samuel Ajayi crowther to had translated the English Bible to Yoruba language 1844 ?) ,the church in Britain first rejected it and delayed it till 1880s but it was fully accepted and published. Late Reverend Ajayi crowther while describing Yoruba Race to British CHURCH SAID YORUBA WERE COPTIC CHRISTIANS of the ancient times. This was because, he saw the traces of the Jewishness in our daily life outside Christianity. Mind you all, Jesus Christ did said in the Bible specifically that he hadn't come to destroy the book but to complete it. Which mean that some old jews traditions will give way while some will still st
ay(The ten commandments) compress to two by Jesus Christ.

IG:

No I'm not crazy, you just need to do some real reading. Actually Sultan Muhammad Bello also thinks you are from the middle east. I think the thing about Yorubas originating from Ife is incomplete history. Did they just appear in Ife out of thin air? Anyway I am just expressing my views based on what I know. Let's not start an argument.

Do you realise that the ancient Nile Valley (Egypt, Nubia) and parts of the middle east were populated by black Africans in antiquity?

That Yorubas migrated from northern Africa does not mean they were ''once Arabs''. They were as black as they are now.

You need a serious study of African history.

The Isrealite were the only group of people that consult God through their seer/prophet to ask if they could win war against their ENEMIES.

What you describe is their oracle of Ephod and was in posession of the Priest, not the Prophet.

Yorubas are blessed, in the sense that we have a mode of divine worship much more enriched and closer to God than any religion on Earth. We are innately spiritual, not religious. Thus when religion came into contact with us, the need to force its acceptance into us, as was done with many other people around the globe, did not arise at all because we were already intimate with the knowledge and practice they came with. Till today in Yorubaland we absorb all and any religion and synergise it with our spiritualism.

In our spiritualism, our Isedaiye, we were Muslims before Islam, we were Christians before Christianity and it should not at all be a surprise to us that Ajayi Crowther would know the Bible as intimately as he did.....but to the Christian society of England, who had a mode of worship subperior to our Isedaiye this was unheard of that a black negro was a scholar in divinity.

If you look in one of my screenshots posted earlier another Christian Clergy on missionary work was dumbfounded that the Yorubas, a non-Christian society, had a knowledge and lexicon of higher divinity unknown amongst the laity of England and that even in the Clergy population in that predominantly Christian civilization perharps one in thousand will be found posessing anything close to a knowledge in higher religion.

This is testimony to our place in civilization and world order, that we knew far more of and closer to God than the knowledge brought to civilize us about God.

It would therefore be wrong to classify us as Jews. Jews are those who practice a religion called Judaism. Yorubas had no religion...we had spiritualism! Prior to Judaism, the Children of Israel also had spiritualism. In fact, what God gave to Aaron was spiritualism, not Judaism.

Our place in history would therefore predate Judaism.

Aaron was instructed in the art of divination using Urim and Thummim, the binary stones of Ephod. The Ephod was nothing but an oracle. This should give insight into tje roots and connections between Yoruba and Children of Israel.

Does anyone know or can share insight on the theory that the Aare Crown of Ife may be linked to Aaron, the High Priest?

I insist ,the Yoruba are JEWS descendants. The more studying of IFA will reveal the relationship between it and ancient Judaism being properly practice will be found in One day in the IFA mystery . Opa oranmiyan has also revealed it that we were not from EGYPT. It has also been revealed that part of psalms of David is enshrined in IFA. Yoruba were never MUSLIMS in the ancient times. In written account of Yorubaland, Yoruba Muslims came into existence in 19th century yet Muslims of other nations had lived amongst us when we hosted them during 14/15/16 centuries and during trade with them in the same periods . The over Zealousness of AFONJA of Ilorin and the short sightedness of ALAAFIN AOLE created the problems of Islamic JIHADIST. But they were stopped when God showed his strength in supporting Yoruba to stop them. Do you think it was the might of those that fought?, It is absolutely impossible to stop JIHADIST except through the finger of God else Yoruba history won't exist today because all would had been burnt DOWN. Note, AFONJA never accepted islam, do you know why?, he saw it as not superior to his Own Religion. The DEITIES that the Yoruba people worship today existed among them as human beings in ancient times and they were seen as the prophets to connect them to GOD .With more research, it will marvel you. The spiritualism is inseparable from Judaism Because they were the only one that had higher knowledge in the whole world in ancient times about ONE GOD. Absolutely impossible. Why did partly 10 tribes lost touch with 2 tribes that is left till today?, It is on record that the Northern Israelites refused to accept son of Solomon,Rehoboam the over all king according to the Bible (1king 12:1-20). Then Jorobam and these people made began to align themselves the daughters of idol worshippers whom God detest. There after God lay a cause on them that they will be captured as slaves and suffer for their rebellion action against him..From the days of Orunmila, Yoruba had always being religious and spiritual. Nothing do they do without consulting IFA Oracle. They celebrate different festivals at different times to acknowledge the Supreme Being even when they know not what they Worship (JESUS quote ) but their heart and ways knew they had lost Contact with God and kept looking for a way to Connect back to him.

Im going to try and simplify the essence of life and how to live it in fulfillment. I will tie the lesson into Ifa and Judaism for better separation between spiritualism and religion.

Humans have a duty to God and an obligation to one another.

Our duty to God are the following:
1. worship of the divine ONE
2. homage to his realm and the deities
3. honor to the elements of nature
4. respect to ancestry
5. acknowledgement of the animal nature

Our obligation to one another follows:
1. do not kill or take a life unjustly
2. do not steal the labor or property of another
3. do not lie against another
4. do not cause another to suffer unjustly
5. do not violate the virtues of the weak ones
6. ....and so on and so forth.


You can see that our duties correspond to things beyond our grasp, those things that cause us to fear. Things beyond our capability to explain or substantiate. They are out of alignment with our senses and strength and can result in blockage to our paths. It is impossible to exist without some life challenges but it is also possible, through certain practices and actions, to cause shift in alignments and mitigate effects of these challenges. This practice is what Spiritualism is. A devotion and commitment to observe our duties to God by giving offerings at the altar and sacrifices at shrines.

On the obligations, this is how we order society so that lives can evolve and humanity can grow and advance itself in the course of time. The use of restrictions and boundaries to organize mankind into sociable beings is why we have Religion. Religion is what we use to order mankind into distinct societies.


Spiritualism is expansion or benevolence, whereas religion is contraction and malevolence.
Spiritualism uplifts, religion damns!

I would like you to reflect upon this when you talk about Ifa being a religion. Does Ifa restrain? Is Ifa malevolent? Does Ifa discriminate? Does Ifa preach bloodshed? Judaism does all these and more. So Yoruba cannot be said to be founded on spiritualism and then categorized as a Judaic people. The two is a contradiction. We are either Judaic and non spiritual or spiritual and non judaic.

First,does IFA restrain?, yes, it does restrain people from engaging in some decisions taken that could harm . Second, is IFA a religion?, yes, IFA was the Yoruba religion in the ancient times.... verify little on this site on ELA (www.ayeakamara. . nl)(cubanyoruba. . com) . Third, Does IFA discriminate?, yes, IFA discriminate against other unequal religion. There was certain time IFA warned the (Orisas)strong and mighty Yoruba men to be weary of a religion that will want to take over their domain in a cunning way and forcefully and that the wise and the mighty men should not allow it to happen and IFA gave instruction on how to be victorious... Do you know that religion was ISLAM? Have you ever thought 100 of years Islam had been brought to Yoruba land through Malian Arabs (darker ones that Yoruba use to call Esin Awon Imale ),Malian Religion,yet Yoruba never accepted the faith in those times . You and I know how many strong and determined Yoruba believers saved died and saved us from Islamic Jihadist from destroying all the things God had in mind to show the world about Who we ARE and this can never be possible if almighty God had not SANCTIONED it . The Hausa history can't be traced anymore as enshrined in their old history because Uthman Dan Fodio destroyed it. My brother do you even think it was easy facing Jihadist who were crude and heartless?, I can't but continue to thank almighty God that Yoruba subdued them at Oshogo that ended such believe of islamization of Yoruba through the Yoruba's slave converts. Fourth, Does IFA preach bloodshed, IFA does not preach bloodshed because it says what he instructed to tell the seeker but preach self-defense and when to Go to war against enemies.

The same postulation as you have found unbelievable, (was what the white skin told themselves was the same you said, It is impossible for these people to claim and be who they said they were even if they don't call themselves Jews/Isrealites) absolutely impossible for the white to believe . It is very important to emphasize your point about the truth on the Canaanite as a whole and the twelve tribe of Israel. The basis for this Intellectual discussion. There were many different people in Middle East during that period but the Jews were singled out as a people envied and feared by other tribes because of the great manifestation of the Presence of God among them. But they abuse the presence of God by fusing and marrying unclean women from other nations. Having said this the white researchers have chronicles of the event that led to the devastating destruction of Northern Israel and being in captivity for hundreds of years and eventual collapse of Assyrian empire. Let me emphasis here again one major characteristics of Jews, they were very homogeneous in nature and distinct themselves from others, feeling superior over other race. Have you not notice this about Yorubas. Other tribes may say it and beat their chest but they know within their hearts Yoruba are the STANDARD to measure up. Have you ever seen Yoruba trying to measure other race as their own standard?,That's the difference. Do you know why the new generation of IBOS hated Yoruba so much?, it's because we are unpredictable and made them lost BIAFRA's campaign in their first agitation for a nation between 1966/67-1970,despite the Yoruba men and women of that time that helped them secure their properties in all Yoruba land yet, they call us names of all sort . Permit my slight digression. Even the researchers that have understudy the oranmiyan obelisk have countered the German Professor that blundered on oranyan obelisk. ....The trident means an oceans also link it to an ancient gods posiedia. This was... potentate of the seas and oceans in Greece, Neptune for Roman, trishula in Hindi etc(Atlantis na P1).And among the Yoruba as Olokun was connected with posiedon of Greek by Professor LEO FROBENIOUS, a German scholar BUT NEWAFRICAN(2010) writes “This was definitely a mistake, but the artwork in the city of ILE IFE was sophisticated that it was easy to mistake it with GREEK CULTURE ".... So the obelisk has nothing to do with the phonecian or GREEK culture or whatsoever... I continue, the presence of this ancient symbol of trident on oranmiyan has no connection with all these ancient gods in EGYPT where the Oduduwa and his group Cam from (still doubted who we are because we are now dark skin but our history will stand for us), the trident is not a symbol of anything of their gods and none of these trident were identified was worshiped in Egypt. (www.litcaf.com)..Some biased historians kept restricting our history to Africa but want to find out where the most populated lost ten Jewish ttribes are and everything kept pointing to Yoruba nation. Believe, I am not interested being called a Jew. I cherish Yoruba ancestry name we are called. Irrespective of these we have to trace our history to where we are from.... Now that it has been established that IPad oranmiyan has nothing to do with Africa and Europe. I guess the Jewish Historians will begin to come to Yoruba land,even with the new discovery of EREDO KINGDOM. Many things God will unveil..... If you are conversant with Bible ,I would have referred you to places that God mentioned his children's remnant that they will even be calling themselves the names of God and they will worship him. Can you count pastors in Yorubaland?,They are in Hundreds of thousands, why? , many hidden mystery by God from Us but he began to let it out. It was the same white people now that are proclaiming Yoruba as ISREAL.
Yoruba blood forever.

Olu317:
The same postulation as you have found unbelievable, (was what the white skin told themselves was the same you said, It is impossible for these people to claim and be who they said they were even if they don't call themselves Jews/Isrealites) absolutely impossible for the white to believe . It is very important to emphasize your point about the truth on the Canaanite as a whole and the twelve tribe of Israel. The basis for this Intellectual discussion. There were many different people in Middle East during that period but the Jews were singled out as a people envied and feared by other tribes because of the great manifestation of the Presence of God among them. But they abuse the presence of God by fusing and marrying unclean women from other nations. Having said this the white researchers have chronicles of the event that led to the devastating destruction of Northern Israel and being in captivity for hundreds of years and eventual collapse of Assyrian empire. Let me emphasis here again one major characteristics of Jews, they were very homogeneous in nature and distinct themselves from others, feeling superior over other race. Have you not notice this about Yorubas. Other tribes may say it and beat their chest but they know within their hearts Yoruba are the STANDARD to measure up. Have you ever seen Yoruba trying to measure other race as their own standard?,That's the difference. Do you know why the new generation of IBOS hated Yoruba so much?, it's because we are unpredictable and made them lost BIAFRA's campaign in their first agitation for a nation between 1966/67-1970,despite the Yoruba men and women of that time that helped them secure their properties in all Yoruba land yet, they call us names of all sort . Permit my slight digression. Even the researchers that have understudy the oranmiyan obelisk have countered the German Professor that blundered on oranyan obelisk. ....The trident means an oceans also link it to an ancient gods posiedia. This was... potentate of the seas and oceans in Greece, Neptune for Roman, trishula in Hindi etc(Atlantis na P1).And among the Yoruba as Olokun was connected with posiedon of Greek by Professor LEO FROBENIOUS, a German scholar BUT NEWAFRICAN(2010) writes “This was definitely a mistake, but the artwork in the city of ILE IFE was sophisticated that it was easy to mistake it with GREEK CULTURE ".... So the obelisk has nothing to do with the phonecian or GREEK culture or whatsoever... I continue, the presence of this ancient symbol of trident on oranmiyan has no connection with all these ancient gods in EGYPT where the Oduduwa and his group Cam from (still doubted who we are because we are now dark skin but our history will stand for us), the trident is not a symbol of anything of their gods and none of these trident were identified was worshiped in Egypt. (www.litcaf.com)..Some biased historians kept restricting our history to Africa but want to find out where the most populated lost ten Jewish ttribes are and everything kept pointing to Yoruba nation. Believe, I am not interested being called a Jew. I cherish Yoruba ancestry name we are called. Irrespective of these we have to trace our history to where we are from.... Now that it has been established that IPad oranmiyan has nothing to do with Africa and Europe. I guess the Jewish Historians will begin to come to Yoruba land,even with the new discovery of EREDO KINGDOM. Many things God will unveil..... If you are conversant with Bible ,I would have referred you to places that God mentioned his children's remnant that they will even be calling themselves the names of God and they will worship him. Can you count pastors in Yorubaland?,They are in Hundreds of thousands, why? , many hidden mystery by God from Us but he began to let it out. It was the same white people now that are proclaiming Yoruba as ISREAL.
Yoruba blood forever.

One thing that surprises me more, is the way the Yorubas worship God. listen to her praises and worship songs, its spectacular, hence I agreed with that special level of spiritualism of the Yorubas. Its 2nd to none. Even the White people who have attended some of their worship programs attest to this and they try to learn one way or the other. their Video is all over the internet. Look at the great men of God, well known over the world? they are mostly of Yoruba extractions. Have you ever wonder why?

Something about Yoruba is exceptional. They excel yet they don't make noise. They are insuppressible ,their voice will be heard. They are slow to fight yet they never lost battle. They are a unique people. They never in their history claim JEWS yet their traditions show it. The missionary church in England saw what PA Johnson wrote about our(yoruba history) history in 1840s-1880s, they burnt the book or destroyed it and told the Oldman that they couldn't find it when they gave it to publisher to print .The man PA Johnson died in 1901. An incomplete new and edited copy was released yet God never forsook us. The unbiased white researchers begun to check our history, they saw the Yoruba way of tradition as same with ancient deeper traditions of Israelites.They were desperate because God want to know that the Jewish blood lineage are in west Africa and the researchers from 19th century begun to dig from one place to other to counter our history from being migrants from Asia because we are darker presently. After series of research they are the one that told us now that the way the traditional worshipping was sustain at ILE IFE of seven (7) skull of ancient king in Israel has been found in ILE IFE as being worship under the name of Obatala which had lasted thousand of years in Yoruba land . More and more studying kept on amazing the historians that the way we worship in Yoruba traditions is the same the Israelites did in ancient of biblical history and this can even be found in LEVITICUS in the Bible. Yoruba traditional worshippers had always been secretive about it but I believe God is the one showing us to the world now about his remnant that were sent to slavery because of our fathers stiff necked generations .It is unbelievable to be lost and found. in 2016,the white historians have interpreted the Obelisk artistic engrave on the Opa Oranmiyan to mean lSREAL They Proclaim (YORUBA) us Jews. The most interesting aspect is that our own traditions is the oldest that exist as of today linking it to ISREAL. Although I love the connection but I do prefer my Yoruba identity and will appreciate it always

Interesting contributions. Have you guys seen this?

http://inmyfatherhouseisrael.com/2015/02/who-are-the-aka-yoruba-series-13/

@ OPCNAIRALAND, thanks for your information on the great search for Yoruba identity from the ancestral home of Israel. I want @ImperialYoruba to check the site @OPCNAIRALAND paste on here. I have asked myself many questions why does Yoruba way of practice is like the ISREALITES? if we aren't Them. The shocking aspect of it to the world is that they have never in their life imagine such a great population of the Israelites will ever be found in the hidden Savannah region of mangrove of West Africa, yet we don't claim it. They have kept on researching and still researching before they came up with this theory that is beyond their comprehension. Do you know why we are so proud of who we are?, Israel don't claim to anything because they know naturally they are the blessed people of God. Just imagine the young lad,
Dr. Victor Olalusi that broke a whole Russian Academic record,not him alone but scattered all over the whole world yet they hardly blow their trumpet. The exact humane way of the typical jews.How on earth did that boy do it?, was really his brain?,I beg to disagree with my flesh because nothing happens in Yoruba world without the touch of God in it. Gradually God is revealing the Yoruba as the original Isrealis here with the ancient custom still largely intact. You all will be amazed when the Israel historians will start to troop down to study more on how we survived...

macof:


it is only a fellow mad person that will take all the posts above seriously. . things like yoruba is proto-semitic, descended from Arabs, migrated from Canaan etc are all false... inconsistencies will only raise from any work trying to portray yoruba as such
from language - Yoruba being a Niger-Congo language only similar to the languages spoken by its neighbors Igala, Edoid sub groups, Igbo, Nupe, Fon...Yoruba is most similar to igala then comes the Edoid dialects
Culture - our music, art, fashion all very typical of a sub Saharan people...we also have many similarities with our neighbors

Yoruba origin is the exact same thing with the origin of the Igbo and Edo

Prior to Oduduwa's time, There were major eras of Yoruba history, the first was Ife Owodaye, which was most likely at the banks of the Niger River, it's flooding caused the migration of the yorubic people southwards and became known as Ooyelagbo which means "Survivors" ...they set up another Ife in its present location

I personally believe "Ooye" is cognate of "Onye" in Igbo


This Ife was a confederacy of 13 small communities, other small settlements would have existed all over Yorubaland, founded partly by people who came from Ife initially and other survivors. I have heard of Idoko people who settled in parts of modern Ijebu stretching to Ondo. In Ekiti and Ijesa there was Oisinkin, the Isolo people are also a pre-oduduwa group... some scholars believe the Okun people are pre-oduduwa groups too

Then the appearance of Ijebu, Ekiti, Oyo, Ilaje etc post oduduwa creations founded mostly by sons of Oduduwa

The variations in dialect and how ancient one dialect seems from another will have to do with the pre-oduduwa influence, the sub - ethnic group's interaction with each other and non yorubic people

Storyteller.

According to Yoruba proverb, oun to joun laafi weun. Oko kii je ti baba t'omo, koma laala. I can only pray you are able to interpret that. Our familiarity with everyone else does not abrogate our history.

The work of the antiquarian is to find out the reason behind the harmony of cultures separated by time and space. It doesn't take a great science to understand that the moon influence the tide of the sea.

But a fool will still tell you that there is no connection between, to make that possible. "If so", the fool will say, "show me the proof." How do you proof what you can see? Well its a question of time.

Its a question of time.

Now, there is a mystery i'm longing to unravel, the ancient Hebrew have the many act of stoning people to death, its Mosaic practice to execute social offenders with stone. Now how does that find expression in Yorubaland?

"Suffer not a witch to live" was a divine commandment given through Moses (Olokun), as found in Exodus22:7.

When an Aje "Ka" in Yoruba, the next thing people do is to stone such a woman to death. Where or how did the practice come to be? Are we like Hebrew that we should stone people to death on such ground as witchcraft?

It takes wisdom to sense an intellectual issue and proceed to find out fact. However, it takes arrogance to hide ignorance. Everybody can tell how we are related to our neighbors, but beyond that is deeper knowledge.

I am doing heavy research beyond west Africa because many historians in the past acknowledge Yoruba as having ancient Israeli tradition in our tradition but the Yoruba researchers and Yoruba historians are too lazy to do greater research about Yoruba history and have never thought or understood the make of Yoruba except the white researchers and I kept weeping in my heart for a great people corrupted by few tradition because the Israelites easily accommodate other people yet they never forget for once forgot they have only one Supreme God called Eledumare /Eleda /Eledua (El is an Israeli word for God). To my greatest surprise on my research Ooni is a JEWISH/ISREALI word for priest. Another is that IFE had 13 community originally, the same with Ancient Israel (Twelve tribe were given landed property and share it among themselves while the thirteenth was Not given anything but to serve as the house of the Prophets(LEVITE'S)

ImperialYoruba:


Could Oduduwa have been a title, rather than a name?

There are peculiar habits with the ancients and much of that is lost. For instance they will date an event by the season or a human catastrophy. Similarly promiment rulers were not called names . They were addressed by their titles.

Pharaoh
Nebuchadnezzar
Alaafin
Awujale
Ooni
Alake
Oba

Could Oduduwa be a title, and not a name?

Yes; even Oranmiyan, sango, etc.
Though not really titles but several others had these names after the original bearers.

alablec:



Yes; even Oranmiyan, sango, etc.
Though not really titles but several others had these names after the original bearers.

.....Oni is priest title in the ancient Israelites traditions.

alablec:



Yes; even Oranmiyan, sango, etc.
Though not really titles but several others had these names after the original bearers.

..... The title of Oni is priest title in the ancient Israelites traditions.

You need a serious study of African history.[/quote]...Have you seen lately the Yoruba of South America whom are of Hispanic look are coming back to Yoruba land to seek reconnection. Are we not like these people in the ancient time before we began to marry Cushite and other darker skin people? ,I am curious about this. It seem God is telling us something, that I believe so much . This people are just more than 150years old or less in the land of captivity and you can hardly call them Yoruba again except if they tell you whom they are. They refused to forgo their tradition. How is it possible? monotheism God is always enshrined in our blood because it has been part of us immemorial.

Olu317:


You need a serious study of African history....Have you seen lately the Yoruba of South America whom are of Hispanic look are coming back to Yoruba land to seek reconnection. Are we not like these people in the ancient time before we began to marry Cushite and other darker skin people? ,I am curious about this. It seem God is telling us something, that I believe so much . This people are just more than 150years old or less in the land of captivity and you can hardly call them Yoruba again except if they tell you whom they are. They refused to forgo their tradition. How is it possible? monotheism God is always enshrined in our blood because it has been part of us immemorial.

Its none of my business but you sound really ignorant. Have you heard of slavery?

These yorubas in south america obviously mixed with hispanics. Theyre the odd ones out not you.

If you originally looked like them it doesnt matter how much intermixing you do these features would still reflect.

Thats besides genetic studies that prove your genes, language and everything else to be purely subsaharan and similar to that of others like igbos.

Muhammad Bello though knowledgeable on other issues, his "theories" on athropology are mostly based on myths and hearsay and are extremely unreliable. He did specify "according to what we are told"

VomeSchakleton:


Its none of my business but you sound really ignorant. Have you heard of slavery?

These yorubas in south america obviously mixed with hispanics. Theyre the odd ones out not you.

If you originally looked like them it doesnt matter how much intermixing you do these features would still reflect.

Thats besides genetic studies that prove your genes, language and everything else to be purely subsaharan and similar to that of others like igbos.

Muhammad Bello though knowledgeable on other issues, his "theories" on athropology are mostly based on myths and hearsay and are extremely unreliable. He did specify "according to what we are told"

...Someone like need to be told that the same truth the colonialist told the savage Africans that refuses to know the difference between God and god I don't expect you to be knowledgeable about things beyond your comprehension because your society and people were ruled by Yoruba. Oba Eweka (Owoka) and some of his people were even one of your patrilineal ancestors because till date his name (EWeka) is still a force to reckon with. Onitsha is from Binin, so we know, you people are from Africans Savage when my own ancient society was already flourishing. As you seems to be clouded with hatred, little did you know that my personal research on my race, my ethnic has nothing to do with Sultan Bello .And if gene has a link with other group, does it mean, they are the same,?, was that what your scientists told?,you are absolutely a lazy and not widely read. Did the DNA carried out doesn't confirm difference?, of what percentage do you think, a gene of two different group can be said to be from same patrilineal?,I am so sorry for your non studious attitude but based your opinion on Bello perception and opinions. Apart from the Mohammedan candid view, why have the white historians, find Yoruba culture as having practically same with ancient Israelites culture. Where is the culture of Ibo having similarities with ancient Israelites? mention ten of it. Yoruba had dominated Ibos during the iron age period. So it explainable if Yoruba had married many ancient Ibo women, which we still do till date. Please, go and study beyond eighteenth century history of Sultan Bello. In fact if Sultan Bello could identify Yoruba Race,don't you know it was because he had studied Yoruba people and with information from some people in the course of his study?,So stop wailing like a puppy and study about your Bantu Ibo history ,do you even have where you come from outside Africa?, 0 Israelites don't claim to be Israelites, it is the other tribes that called them people of the LEVITE'S. I have studied beyond Nigeria ,West Africa and still studying Yoruba history. Lastly, why are the Ibos generation slave not returning?, because they are Israelites. You can not assimilate Israelites, no matter how much you try but you people are of Bantu family grouping. I hold my Yoruba identity in high esteem because I AM PROUDLY YORUBAN. .

Olu317:
...Someone like need to be told that the same truth the colonialist told the savage Africans that refuses to know the difference between God and god I don't expect you to be knowledgeable about things beyond your comprehension because your society and people were ruled by Yoruba. Oba Eweka (Owoka) and some of his people were even one of your patrilineal ancestors because till date his name (EWeka) is still a force to reckon with. Onitsha is from Binin, so we know, you people are from Africans Savage when my own ancient society was already flourishing. As you seems to be clouded with hatred, little did you know that my personal research on my race, my ethnic has nothing to do with Sultan Bello .And if gene has a link with other group, does it mean, they are the same,?, was that what your scientists told?,you are absolutely a lazy and not widely read. Did the DNA carried out doesn't confirm difference?, of what percentage do you think, a gene of two different group can be said to be from same patrilineal?,I am so sorry for your non studious attitude but based your opinion on Bello perception and opinions. Apart from the Mohammedan candid view, why have the white historians, find Yoruba culture as having practically same with ancient Israelites culture. Where is the culture of Ibo having similarities with ancient Israelites? mention ten of it. Yoruba had dominated Ibos during the iron age period. So it explainable if Yoruba had married many ancient Ibo women, which we still do till date. Please, go and study beyond eighteenth century history of Sultan Bello. In fact if Sultan Bello could identify Yoruba Race,don't you know it was because he had studied Yoruba people and with information from some people in the course of his study?,So stop wailing like a puppy and study about your Bantu Ibo history ,do you even have where you come from outside Africa?, 0 Israelites don't claim to be Israelites, it is the other tribes that called them people of the LEVITE'S. I have studied beyond Nigeria ,West Africa and still studying Yoruba history. Lastly, why are the Ibos generation slave not returning?, because they are Israelites. You can not assimilate Israelites, no matter how much you try but you people are of Bantu family grouping. I hold my Yoruba identity in high esteem because I AM PROUDLY YORUBAN. .

Frankly i read your first sentence and i realised how far off you are so i didnt read the rest.


Maybe your whole comment is better directed at an igbo person yeah?

And please dont get me wrong, i have great respect for the yoruba culture and people. But we need to rid ourselves of this stuupid inferiority complex of having to trace our origin to somewhere else its ridiculous.

VomeSchakleton:


Its none of my business but you sound really ignorant. Have you heard of slavery?

These yorubas in south america obviously mixed with hispanics. Theyre the odd ones out not you.

If you originally looked like them it doesnt matter how much intermixing you do these features would still reflect.

Thats besides genetic studies that prove your genes, language and everything else to be purely subsaharan and similar to that of others like igbos.

Muhammad Bello though knowledgeable on other issues, his "theories" on athropology are mostly based on myths and hearsay and are extremely unreliable. He did specify "according to what we are told"

....as myopic and uncultured as you are for you to even have a notion that educated person of my status won't have knowledge on slavery. This show your cheetah like nature without aim. This is my problem with half baked educated personality that will come on the internet to show pseudo writing/typing skills with non brainy information. Even the children or pupils in the primary/grade/elementary schools know about slavery about Israelites under Egyptians if nothing at all. So stop wasting precious time of Yoruba people if you have nothing to add to our value. I was practically was referring to spiritual connection that have made to come seeking reunification with their kith and kin in Yoruba land. After all, Yoruba Race were not the only group captured as slaves and not the highest number of slaves transported to the foreign lands but they kept finding their way back because God gave them direction. As a spiritual being, NOTHING HAPPENS IN THE PHYSICAL WITHOUT SPIRITUAL manifesting it first Bible : As it is done on earth, so as it is in heaven).Lazy chap go and study....

VomeSchakleton:


Frankly i read your first sentence and i realised how far off you are so i didnt read the rest.


Maybe your whole comment is better directed at an igbo person yeah?

And please dont get me wrong, i have great respect for the yoruba culture and people. But we need to rid ourselves of this stuupid inferiority complex of having to trace our origin to somewhere else its ridiculous.

... You are not Yoruba. Yoruba don't firstly use negative word such as “ignorant",we are called Omoluabi,people well trained. Yoruba are extremely spiritual irrespective your religion. Yoruba are open-minded and not stereotype..whats is your oriki? What's your family oriki? , be bold to identify who you are. You are a big LIAR.

Omoluabi don't say "ignorant", but they will say "uncultured", "lazy", etc?

Olu317:
... You are not Yoruba. Yoruba don't firstly use negative word such as “ignorant",we are called Omoluabi,people well trained. Yoruba are extremely spiritual irrespective your religion. Yoruba are open-minded and not stereotype..whats is your oriki? What's your family oriki? , be bold to identify who you are. You are a big LIAR.

Maybe your questions are best directed at a yoruba person which i never claimed to be.


I dont have to be yoruba to respect yoruba culture small fry. So think again.

VomeSchakleton:


Maybe your questions are best directed at a yoruba person which i never claimed to be.


I dont have to be yoruba to respect yoruba culture small fry. So think again.

....Better. However for the record, I don't sit and fold hands on past glory. If someone mentioned Yoruba being Canaanite and information today has it that the the two kings of southern and northern Israel who were killed through JEHU around 5BC-6BC in which after their death the seven skull of divine kings of ancient Israel are being worshiped in Yoruba kingdom under the name of Obatala with the skull . No part of the world is that happening who claim Israelites. How come Yoruba has the highest twins born in the world? Jacob and Esau were the first record in the Bible whose grandparents parents were Abraham . And Israelites are the ones whom were synonyms with twins. So,if we don't remember anything at all, our ancestors transfer it orally that we came from the East. Yoruba didn't tell the white researchers that they want to tell the world that they are Israelite nor do I but the white researchers were the ones saying it because of heavy research on the lost tribes of the largest group of ancient Israelites. Even you can testify to it yourself, where is the largest place of worshipping almighty God in the world? who are the major pastors? Things don't happen by chance, study the Bible and you will understand what God said about his Israelites children when he will give them a soft heart. Read Leviticus very well on how ancient Israelites do sacrifice ,is exactly how Yoruba does sacrifices in the IFA way, Isaiah also has a lot of this information concerning the children of God, so study it if you are interested and if not, am not perturbed but truth stand eternally. And someone like me that has been doing more research independently have even more information to be added on Yoruba history. And once am ready, it shall be published.

Olu317:
I insist ,the Yoruba are JEWS descendants. The more studying of IFA will reveal the relationship between it and ancient Judaism being properly practice will be found in One day in the IFA mystery . Opa oranmiyan has also revealed it that we were not from EGYPT. It has also been revealed that part of psalms of David is enshrined in IFA. Yoruba were never MUSLIMS in the ancient times. In written account of Yorubaland, Yoruba Muslims came into existence in 19th century yet Muslims of other nations had lived amongst us when we hosted them during 14/15/16 centuries and during trade with them in the same periods . The over Zealousness of AFONJA of Ilorin and the short sightedness of ALAAFIN AOLE created the problems of Islamic JIHADIST. But they were stopped when God showed his strength in supporting Yoruba to stop them. Do you think it was the might of those that fought?, It is absolutely impossible to stop JIHADIST except through the finger of God else Yoruba history won't exist today because all would had been burnt DOWN. Note, AFONJA never accepted islam, do you know why?, he saw it as not superior to his Own Religion. The DEITIES that the Yoruba people worship today existed among them as human beings in ancient times and they were seen as the prophets to connect them to GOD .With more research, it will marvel you. The spiritualism is inseparable from Judaism Because they were the only one that had higher knowledge in the whole world in ancient times about ONE GOD. Absolutely impossible. Why did partly 10 tribes lost touch with 2 tribes that is left till today?, It is on record that the Northern Israelites refused to accept son of Solomon,Rehoboam the over all king according to the Bible (1king 12:1-20). Then Jorobam and these people made began to align themselves the daughters of idol worshippers whom God detest. There after God lay a cause on them that they will be captured as slaves and suffer for their rebellion action against him..From the days of Orunmila, Yoruba had always being religious and spiritual. Nothing do they do without consulting IFA Oracle. They celebrate different festivals at different times to acknowledge the Supreme Being even when they know not what they Worship (JESUS quote ) but their heart and ways knew they had lost Contact with God and kept looking for a way to Connect back to him.

SHARRAP THERE WITH YOUR CHRISTIAN BIAS