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Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by frisky2good(m): 10:46am On Dec 02, 2016
You need to broaden your knowledge if you are not aware that the last government amended personal income tax laws. Anyone that has been paying taxes regularly should know that.


seunmsg:


To be best of my knowledge, the PITA has not been amended, government is only enforcing full compliance.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by dustydee: 10:48am On Dec 02, 2016
jusRadical:



Read Seummsg's message again. Civil servants do not have a choice on whether to pay taxes or not. Their taxes are deducted at source. This means that telling them to pay their taxes is missinformation because they do not have control over tax deductions. Moreover, is there any upward review of personal income tax?

Please go and verify, many fg workers including lecturers are paid not full salaries presently. Rather, they are paid a certain percentage of the remuneration and this percentage varies.

Investigate my friend, move around, ask questions please.
Being paid half salary is different from reduced salary due to application of correct tax rate. I used to work for the FG and my PAYE was quite low compared to my colleagues in Lagos on the same pay in the same company. This was identified a few years ago and for the past 2 or so years, my former colleagues have seen their taxes increased every year until they reach the require tax level. The phased increase was done in order to reduce the "shock" it will have on people's take home if it was removed at once. That there's no change in our existing tax laws does not mean that people have been paying the correct tax rate.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by Kamnelly(f): 10:51am On Dec 02, 2016
9jakohai:


1.You did not have to insult me.

2.Well, our economy is dependent on oil, so once oil prices fall, our economy falls with it. We have been there before....in the 1980's.

3.As for electricity...

a) A large percentage of Nigerians and government agencies do not pay light bills....hampering funding of the sector.(We need meters, really....)

b) What makes things worse is that we actually need trillions to get light working 24/7. (That is part of the reason why GEJ privatized power...because he felt the private sector had a better chance of raising the funds.)

4.Thing is, I am not particularly fond of this govt's economic polices. They seem to be more fixated on getting the oil prices up....which won't happen again (because everyone now produces oil....OPEC is not as powerful as they used to be )...than getting Nigeria diversified.

But even then, diversification is going to take ages.It isn't a one year thing.

And anyway, our budget since 2015...has been lean because...oil has been falling (GEJ's minister of Finance Okonjo-Iweala warned Nigerians in 2015 to expect hard times due to the falling oil price...whoever was in charge.).

5.I guess that one way out of the recession is to actually reduce taxes, and increase government spending. Won't work in Nigeria for two reasons

i) Many Nigerians would save, rather than spend...thus negating any attempt to stimulate the economy.

ii) And anyway, where are we going to get the extra money from? Our budget is tied to the oil price....and with oil prices falling PLUS the fact that we are paying off loans from the past, and taking new ones now....where is the money going to come from? (Answer...another loan...which means more burdens for our grandchildren).

It is a tough road yet...whoever is in charge.
Sorry I insulted you.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by Nobody: 10:55am On Dec 02, 2016
Rad1cal:


Stop saying nonsense. Aren't you aware that Nigerian Universities have been having salary shortfalls from the FG throughout the year ? Some are even on 50% salaries for a while now.



Do not mind some people. They sit back a home and type rubbish. Many fg workers are presently being paid a certain percentage of their salaries.

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Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by Rad1cal: 11:02am On Dec 02, 2016
jusRadical:




Do not mind some people. They sit back a home and type rubbish. Many fg workers are presently being paid a certain percentage of their salaries.

They are just here to defend the govt. of the day no matter how silly they sound,
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by adedayoa2(f): 11:13am On Dec 02, 2016
seunmsg:


In the implementation of PAYE under PITA, the responsibility to deduct and remit is that of the employer, whether private or public. However, FIRS and other relevant state internal revenue services have the powers to review and audit the remittance to ensure the deduction is in line with the provisions of the PITA. If it was found that the taxes were been under deducted, they can order and enforce full deduction in compliance with the law. So, to answer your question, the various MDA's that under deducted staff taxes should be blamed.
now withdrawing without informing the owner of the money, what do we call that? Who is their employer? Then the employer should pay because it is negligence on the employers part.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by mgumm: 11:14am On Dec 02, 2016
SirJeffry:
Wicked religious bigotry. Why didn't buhari slash salaries during preparations to sa11ah celebrations
nd u knw what?? its only d christians salary dat he slashed.......nonsense wailer, may God purnish u
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by adedayoa2(f): 11:17am On Dec 02, 2016
seunmsg:


Which part of the PITA provides that your call duty allowance is exempted from taxation?
lolz, teach her taxation
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by Nobody: 11:19am On Dec 02, 2016
dustydee:

Being paid half salary is different from reduced salary due to application of correct tax rate. I used to work for the FG and my PAYE was quite low compared to my colleagues in Lagos on the same pay in the same company. This was identified a few years ago and for the past 2 or so years, my former colleagues have seen their taxes increased every year until they reach the require tax level. The phased increase was done in order to reduce the "shock" it will have on people's take home if it was removed at once. That there's no change in our existing tax laws does not mean that people have been paying the correct tax rate.



Please read my comment well before replying. The summary of my comment is:

1) Govt workers do not pay their taxes personally but their taxes are deducted at source, so the issue of they should pay their taxes is misleading: they do not pay it themselves but deducted directly by their employer.

2) Many fg workers are presently on a certain percentage of their salaries and this percentage varies.

Ok?

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Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by ochubaebube(m): 11:20am On Dec 02, 2016
There is no salary reduction here. All these misinformed reporters and bloggers sef. This is a simple tax reduction from Income Before Tax. Other civilized countries deduct income taxes and mortgage taxes before payment of Net Income. but Nigeria just started having sense to deduct theirs and workers are misinterpreting it. Misguided fellows

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Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by obanth2016: 11:24am On Dec 02, 2016
Positive or Negative, change is changing on daily bases.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by younglas: 11:36am On Dec 02, 2016
This man is rulling us in a pharo's style
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by sekem: 11:38am On Dec 02, 2016
A simple question: Please can anyone who is under FG's payroll confirm or refute this?
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by dustydee: 11:45am On Dec 02, 2016
jusRadical:




Please read my comment well before replying. The summary of my comment is:

1) Govt workers do not pay their taxes personally but their taxes are deducted at source, so the issue of they should pay their taxes is misleading: they do not pay it themselves but deducted directly by their employer.

2) Many fg workers are presently on a certain percentage of their salaries and this percentage varies.

Ok?
1. Asking them to pay their taxes does not imply that they should physically go and pay their taxes, in this context he meant they should pay the correct tax due.
2. I am aware that some receive half pay. I cannot confirm from the letter that that is the case. Surely whoever wrote that memo would have said so if that were the case.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by Sophious(m): 11:57am On Dec 02, 2016
mapet:


The tax laws says those allowances should be taxed. Even those of us in the private sector pay taxes on allowances, even Christman bonus
Just made a quick read through of the tax law and I see you are right! But a full implementation this very time is not fair on the workers. A good number of civil servants have banks loans, cooperative savings/loans and so on and are calculative with what they have left. You don't make them get this type of news when they get alert or see their payslip.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by Sophious(m): 11:58am On Dec 02, 2016
mapet:


The tax laws says those allowances should be taxed. Even those of us in the private sector pay taxes on allowances, even Christman bonus

Just made a quick read through of the tax law and I see you are right! But a full implementation this very time is not fair on the workers. A good number of civil servants have banks loans, cooperative savings/loans and so on and are calculative with what they have left. You don't make them get this type of news when they get alert or see their payslip.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by seunmsg(m): 12:04pm On Dec 02, 2016
frisky2good:
You need to broaden your knowledge if you are not aware that the last government amended personal income tax laws. Anyone that has been paying taxes regularly should know that.




Maybe I should rephrase so that you can understand better. To the best of my knowledge, the Buhari government has not amended the PITA, what is currently happening is enforcement of full compliance.

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Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by Nobody: 12:07pm On Dec 02, 2016
dustydee:

1. Asking them to pay their taxes does not imply that they should physically go and pay their taxes, in this context he meant they should pay the correct tax due.
2. I am aware that some receive half pay. I cannot confirm from the letter that that is the case. Surely whoever wrote that memo would have said so if that were the case.



Please how does a civil servant whose tax is deducted at source by his employer be told to pay correct tax? Does the worker have control over his tax deductions? My friend, it is those who pay directly to the govt like company income tax, businessmen, traders, etc whose taxes are usually based on what they declare as earnings that you can tell to pay correct tax and not those whose taxes are deducted at source.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by NovusHomo(m): 12:09pm On Dec 02, 2016
seunmsg:
Implementing the law properly should not be termed as salary reduction. My salary was not reduced in any way because I have been paying my full tax previously. People should pay their taxes accordingly and stop complaining and misinforming the public.

I don't even care. Most of them don't do s**t. Disengage them, pay them some money and let them go back to their villages instead of forming in Abuja and other State capitals.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by seunmsg(m): 12:15pm On Dec 02, 2016
adedayoa2:
now withdrawing without informing the owner of the money, what do we call that? Who is their employer? Then the employer should pay because it is negligence on the employers part.

According to the law, the employer must deduct the correct taxes from staff salary before paying the balance. The employer will be held responsible for failure to comply with the provisions of the law. As regards who should pay, yes, the employers may bear the penalties for none or partial compliance but going forward, the individual staff will have to bear the brunt of the full payment of their taxes and that is what is happening. Government is not asking anybody to pay penalties for past under deduction, they are only saying we should all pay what is due under the law going forward.

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Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by EstherNdidi11: 12:24pm On Dec 02, 2016
[quote author=seunmsg post=51559413]Implementing the law properly should not be termed as salary reduction. My salary was not reduced in any way because I have been paying my full tax previously. People should pay their taxes accordingly and stop complaining and misinforming the public. I thought that govt usually deduct tax before payment of salaries?
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by EstherNdidi11: 12:27pm On Dec 02, 2016
I thought that govt usually deduct tax before payment of salaries?
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by Nobody: 12:28pm On Dec 02, 2016
seunmsg:
Implementing the law properly should not be termed as salary reduction. My salary was not reduced in any way because I have been paying my full tax previously. People should pay their taxes accordingly and stop complaining and misinforming the public.

Stop being funny dear.

So if a civil servant loses N50k on a salary of N140k, its proper taxation according to you ?

Who implements tax before now ? isn't it deducted at source ?

Again, just 5 agencies have been affected so wait for your turn...

just the usual Nigerian lack of empathy and trying to sound intelligent with little experience.

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Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by dustydee: 12:34pm On Dec 02, 2016
jusRadical:




Please how does a civil servant whose tax is deducted at source by his employer be told to pay correct tax? Does the worker have control over his tax deductions? My friend, it is those who pay directly to the govt like company income tax, businessmen, traders, etc whose taxes are usually based on what they declare as earnings that you can tell to pay correct tax and not those whose taxes are deducted at source.
They have not been asked to pay correct tax but the government has taken the correct tax and they are complaining. Mind you some of these government agencies and even private companies deliberately under pay income taxes but it seems government is determined to get it's fair due.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by mapet: 12:34pm On Dec 02, 2016
Sophious:


Just made a quick read through of the tax law and I see you are right! But a full implementation this very time is not fair on the workers. A good number of civil servants have banks loans, cooperative savings/loans and so on and are calculative with what they have left. You don't make them get this type of news when they get alert or see their payslip.

1. FIRS is on a mission to recover all "recoverables" as that will be the yardstick of their performance. So it is understable why now or anytime.
2. Unfortunately many managers do not manage people's expectations well. In a unionised private sector, you can hardly get away with this. As soon as they got the clarification from FIRS, the right thing to do is to call a staff meeting and explain the situation and implication to the staff. If this was not done, then the fvcked up
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by frisky2good(m): 12:38pm On Dec 02, 2016
The issue is Buhari is a dictator so he can never learn to do things the right way. Consolidated tax free allowance of N200,000 or 1% of gross income, whichever is higher, plus 20% of the gross income is protected by the current tax laws. If Buhari and his incompetent advisers want to tax all the workers' income they need to change the law. Not doing that is A DISREGARD FOR THE LAW.


seunmsg:



Maybe I should rephrase so that you can understand better. To the best of my knowledge, the Buhari government has not amended the PITA, what is currently happening is enforcement of full compliance.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by adedayoa2(f): 1:44pm On Dec 02, 2016
seunmsg:


According to the law, the employer must deduct the correct taxes from staff salary before paying the balance. The employer will be held responsible for failure to comply with the provisions of the law. As regards who should pay, yes, the employers may bear the penalties for none or partial compliance but going forward, the individual staff will have to bear the brunt of the full payment of their taxes and that is what is happening. Government is not asking anybody to pay penalties for past under deduction, they are only saying we should all pay what is due under the law going forward.
sheybi na Government employ them
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by ogunboss: 2:26pm On Dec 02, 2016
When our 'brothers' in the SS keep blowing pipelines, do you want him to start printing money. He has to shore up revenue which is why taxes keep going up. Blowing things does nobody no good. Buhari hardly seems concerned, crude will be imported from Niger. Revenue shortfalls will be borne by the masses and the SS bears the Environmental Problems that come with vandalising oil and gas pipelines.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by seunmsg(m): 3:20pm On Dec 02, 2016
adedayoa2:
sheybi na Government employ them

Why does firs audit MDA's for compliance with tax laws? Shebi all of then na government agencies.
Re: FG Slashes Civil Servants' Salaries Weeks Before Christmas Pix by afanide: 5:21pm On Dec 02, 2016
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