OLAADEGBU:


Does murder seem good to you?

Richirich713:


Lol you don't even considered it objectively wrong to kill the innocent. As I told u b4 God has the authority and right to take life.



Lol U are not omniscient, ur knowledge is limited, u not even sure if the nazi's did anything wrong, ur last comment regarding them implied u don't think they did wrong because they didn't think they were doing anything wrong.



Yep



Nope, man's not the creator and sustainer of another humans life and existence.

Richirich713:


Lol you don't even considered it objectively wrong to kill the innocent. As I told u b4 God has the authority and right to take life.



Lol U are not omniscient, ur knowledge is limited, u not even sure if the nazi's did anything wrong, ur last comment regarding them implied u don't think they did wrong because they didn't think they were doing anything wrong.



Yep



Nope, man's not the creator and sustainer of another humans life and existence.

mrvitalis:

They way u guys quote Bible as an authority is laughable

donnffd:


Your second argument fails...the existence of good and evil doesn't imply an absolute moral law...you are taking a quantum leap from subjectivity into objectivity.

Good and evil doesnt exist outside the realm of humans, we are what give those words meaning because by definition, it is purely subjective on the human experience. So extrapolating that there is an objective law that determines this is like saying there is an objective way of experiencing Red, that is highly flawed.

Richirich713:


I hardly quote the bible when I'm talkin to skeptics, they bring up the bible to avoid defending their flawed views.

skeendyke:


In other words, anarchy is a welcome development based on your argument.

Again, why do people use the word 'wicked' in describing the extremist sect, boko haram, when all the murders they have committed is 'good' according to their subjective definition if the word?

Even if you don't agree with their definition, do you think they are right to act the way they do given the fact that morality does not have an objective scope of interpretation or definition?

Kay17:


When God instructs you to

mrvitalis:


U shouldn't have mentioned bokoharam, to them they are fulfilling the basic reason the exits.. Kill the non believers of God, what could be better??
I laugh when Christians conderm bokoharam but praise joshua for killing innocent people to fulfil the promise of God

mrvitalis:


I will feel the same u will feel if someone promised someone ur property without u knowing

mrvitalis:


Please tell me what's the difference between killing and murder

mrvitalis:


Am a realist so i should be asking you that

I believe in the universal low, u rights ends were another man own starts

OLAADEGBU:


God is the Landlord because He Created and Owns the land and He deserves the right to give it to whoever He wants. Don't you think?



What does it mean in the court of law when one gets charged for murder? Do you know why they do not say one is charged for killing? Can you think of what gets killed and yet is not a crime?

skeendyke:


So what is your solution to the atheist's dilemma? What is your interpretation of morality?

OLAADEGBU:


And who is to say that it is evil when one infringes on another man's right?

mrvitalis:


What prove do u have that there is a God
That the God is one
That a God created earth
That this God was the one who commanded someone to kill how can we verify this

If not i can commit any crime and clam God told me
If i do this can God prove otherwise??

mrvitalis:


No one.. We are all humans and are all equal, so in other to maintain peace an order was put in place.. That's just what brought about rights... The society now dictates what the majority is comfortable with its not about God or no no God.

mrvitalis:


There are many things God allowed that are morally bad now

OLAADEGBU:


The only proof I'll give for now is the fact that there is good and evil. God is good, all the time. The onus is on you to prove that there is no good or evil.

mrvitalis:


Ok define good and give example

Define bad and give examples

OLAADEGBU:


Who put an order in place, the society? Which society is to say what the moral code should be? A racist society will believe that it is their right to be racists, other societies believe that it is ok to murder unborn babies, Islamic terrorists believe that it is moral to kill people of other religions or to ethnically cleanse a population, so which society should dictate what is comfortable to all of us? Who is to say which position is to be followed?



If you want to know what the Moral Law is look at the decalogue. (The 10 commandments). Tell me which one of them is morally bad in this day and age.

OLAADEGBU:


Look up the Moral Law (10 Commandments) and see whether you are a good person. Check it out here:==>www.needGod.com

mrvitalis:


We have the United nations that set standards for nations to abide by

mrvitalis:


God ordered Saul to kill a tribe is that morally right?
Choosing to love iseral over his brother is that morally right?

Asking Israelis to occupy a land thata not there own is that morally right?

Ordering killing of stubborn kids is that morally right?

Punishing man for hia fualt is that morally right?? Bro see there is nothing right or wrong is just perception

mrvitalis:


The ten commandments has no limits... So if my parents order me to steal i am morally right ti do it??

mrvitalis:


Thou shall not kill, so i should not kill people who blasphem against God?

mrvitalis:


Bro please that's too weak

OLAADEGBU:


"Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right." (Ephesians 6:1).

The verse above is an expansion of the 5th commandment. You should only obey your parents as long as they are not breaking the Moral Law.



You shall not commit murder, this goes beyond the physical shedding of blood. The Bible says the moment you hate your brother you have committed murder in your heart. Can the UN legislate against that?



The moment you visit the link I suggested above and test yourselve whether you are a good person according to God's standard then you may come back to tell me how this is too weak.

mrvitalis:


What's God's standard??

mrvitalis:


Killing innocent people??
Taking what doesn't belong to u by force?
Ethnic cleansing??
Slavery?

OLAADEGBU:


Check out His Moral Law ==> www.NeedGod.com



Do you think the above is evil?

OLAADEGBU:


Check out His Moral Law ==> www.NeedGod.com



Do you think the above is evil?

mrvitalis:


Ur stupid Christian site is useless, honestly God in the Bible is worst than the devil

mrvitalis:


Killed people for his fault
Promised people another man's land
Chose lazy over had work
Ordered ethnic cleansing
Ordered profects to lie

mrvitalis:


Seriously biblical God is no way a standard for morals.. he is way below par

OLAADEGBU:


You still haven't taken the test. Is the devil evil?
I have. ..And its just foolish
Evil is relative and perception but i know by any standard u chose the devil is better than the biblical God



If you assume He is evil for doing these things then there most be good, no?

As the world perceived it today.. . Mem stop forming smart and shifting the goal post

There is no good and there is no bad
God cant set the standard for good cos he wouldn't even qualify as good


If you take the test you will discover that man's law is no match for God's high standard.

OLAADEGBU:


Do you think all societies abide by the UN's resolutions? Why would you think Muslims should take those resolutions above their Sharia law? Do those resolutions forbid the murder of unborn babies? Does the standard of the UN meet up with that of the Moral Law of God?



The Uncreated Creator who Created life and land is the Only One who has the right to dispose or bequeath it to whomever He pleases. He is the Only One we are all accountable to and that is why we have to meet His standards or else...

OLAADEGBU:


Committing murder is evil regardless of culture, society, colour, age, creed or sex. Are you saying that anyone has the right to murder you because they feel it is good?

mrvitalis:


What prove do you have... What of the God that created the galaxies. ..

donnffd:


Read my post well, i never said people should do what they like, I said good and evil is a subjective experience based on HUMAN BEINGS. So a law existing out of the collective subjective experience of humans wont be possible and would be frankly flawed.