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Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by scully95: 2:37pm On Mar 16, 2017
I bet it's not safe to sell these complex machines, second to non on the planet earth to Turkey, a mere traitor that would likely sell it out or allow NATO crooks to test junkie counter-measure on it. If for anything Turkey cannot or should never be trusted.

What do you say @ Appleyard, Shym3xx, GTkester, Poseidon000 aka Cyprus000, Nairaminted, Bonechamberlain, Hungryboy, Seagulsntrawler, Janujaz, Naijatalktown, Phrenelogy, Overhypedsteve, Underground, Seunny4lif, ShinnBet, Fineguy11, Capip120, Lumiere91, Barram, Romme2u, Stalwert



S-400 missile system that Ankara plans to buy from Russia will not be integrated into NATO missile defense system, Turkish Defense Minister Fikri Işık said on Thursday.

"The Russian S-400 system will not be integrated into NATO missile defense system," Işık said.

On Wednesday, Turkish Defense Minister said that Ankara and Moscow made certain progress in talks on delivery of Russian-made S-400 air defense systems to Turkey, but the sides are still not ready to strike a deal.
Russia's Rostech CEO Sergei Chemezov earlier confirmed that Moscow and Ankara were in talks on deliveries of S-400 air defense systems to Turkey. The S-400 is Russia's next-generation air defense system, carrying three different types of missiles capable of destroying aerial targets at a short-to-extremely-long range. The weapon is capable of tracking and destroying all existing aerial targets, including ballistics and cruise missiles.

Turkey canceled last November its $4-billion tender for the procurement of components for a domestic missile defense system announced in 2009.

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by NOETHNICITY(m): 2:43pm On Mar 16, 2017
I very much agree with u..

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by seunny4lif(m): 3:20pm On Mar 16, 2017
Turkey Turkey Turkey
That confused country grin grin grin

I don't know why Russia wanted to sell it to them

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by cstr151: 3:25pm On Mar 16, 2017
It is about time the United states dealt with Turkey in its own way. Benefiting From US protection and at same time playing hanky panky with the enemy.
It is a shame that we need them though due to their geo-political importance .
Of all the NATO countries, they are the most backward. No wonder the UK and some NATO members wants turkey kicked out.
Looking more like a third world dictatorship, than a NATO member.

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by arewaboy(m): 3:45pm On Mar 16, 2017
cstr151:
It is about time the United states dealt with Turkey in its own way. Benefiting From US protection and at same time playing hanky panky with the enemy.
It is a shame that we need them though due to their geo-political importance .
Of all the NATO countries, they are the most backward. No wonder the UK and some NATO members wants turkey kicked out.
Looking more like a third world dictatorship, than a NATO member.


Turkey? the most backward country in NATO? serious.. what about Bulgaria, Portugal, Romania, and other Balkan countries?

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by MONITZ: 4:04pm On Mar 16, 2017
scully95:
I bet it's not safe to sell these complex machines, second to non on the planet earth to Turkey, a mere traitor that would likely sell it out or allow NATO crooks to test junkie counter-measure on it. If for anything Turkey cannot or should never be trusted.

What do you say @ Appleyard, Shym3xx, GTkester, Poseidon000 aka Cyprus000, Nairaminted, Bonechamberlain, Hungryboy, Seagulsntrawler, Janujaz, Naijatalktown, Phrenelogy, Overhypedsteve, Underground, Seunny4lif, ShinnBet, Fineguy11, Capip120, Lumiere91, Barram, Romme2u, Stalwert








Really? Russia would be making a very grave mistake if they should go ahead and sell this priceless pieces to Turkey and it's a no brainer to decipher because Turkey esp the president is highly irrational and looks ready to shift loyalty at any time.....

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by Nobody: 8:26pm On Mar 16, 2017
My glory will depart from Putin if the defensive weapon of the Irunmoles (S-400Triumf) is ever sold to a traitorous Country like Turkey.

Turkey must be given a stiff condition to withdraw from NATO before given the opportunity to acquire - not even the S-400Triumf but ONLY the S-300.

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by fineguy11(m): 1:02pm On Mar 18, 2017
scully95:
I bet it's not safe to sell these complex machines, second to non on the planet earth to Turkey, a mere traitor that would likely sell it out or allow NATO crooks to test junkie counter-measure on it. If for anything Turkey cannot or should never be trusted.

What do you say @ Appleyard, Shym3xx, GTkester, Poseidon000 aka Cyprus000, Nairaminted, Bonechamberlain, Hungryboy, Seagulsntrawler, Janujaz, Naijatalktown, Phrenelogy, Overhypedsteve, Underground, Seunny4lif, ShinnBet, Fineguy11, Capip120, Lumiere91, Barram, Romme2u, Stalwert





selling the s-400 to Turkey shldn't call for worry or concern...what makes an air defence system effective isn't the weapon itself,...but the sophistication of the different levels/types of radar that av been integrated into the s-4oo system....russia may have sold the s-400 to china,india,and lately turkey,but the most advanced radar systems wasn't fitted into the exported variants.

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by overhypedsteve(m): 4:16pm On Mar 18, 2017
scully95:
I bet it's not safe to sell these complex machines, second to non on the planet earth to Turkey, a mere traitor that would likely sell it out or allow NATO crooks to test junkie counter-measure on it. If for anything Turkey cannot or should never be trusted.

What do you say @ Appleyard, Shym3xx, GTkester, Poseidon000 aka Cyprus000, Nairaminted, Bonechamberlain, Hungryboy, Seagulsntrawler, Janujaz, Naijatalktown, Phrenelogy, Overhypedsteve, Underground, Seunny4lif, ShinnBet, Fineguy11, Capip120, Lumiere91, Barram, Romme2u, Stalwert





Turkey should seriously begin to reconsider her NATO membership if it has come to the point where she have to buy Air Defence systems from the very nation that NATO was created to fight against. NATO should be very worried when things like this happen

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by Appleyard(m): 12:11pm On Mar 19, 2017
cstr151:
It is about time the United states dealt with Turkey in its own way. Benefiting From US protection and at same time playing hanky panky with the enemy.
It is a shame that we need them though due to their geo-political importance .
Of all the NATO countries, they are the most backward. No wonder the UK and some NATO members wants turkey kicked out.
Looking more like a third world dictatorship, than a NATO member.

Turkey ain't backward, my friend...

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by Appleyard(m): 12:35pm On Mar 19, 2017
I'm not in the least worried because the Russians are not that foolish to entrust such a state-of-the-art weapon into the hands of a member of his notorious arch rival-NATO. They talk, but the deal won't go through.

However, there is something people are overlooking here; and it is that for a NATO MEMBER NATION to be keen on purchasing the s-400, it entails that There is nothing like it in the west at the moment. grin It also effectively tore to shreds the zombie propaganda and blind man's stereotypical narrative prevailing in the west that Russian weapons are junks...

I'm wondering why would a NATO member state wants to buy junk from an adversary...cool. It must be that the supposed junk has no rival in the entire west at the moment...grin Except some of my Langley friends from the western prison of illusion can prove to me that Erdoghan and the entire Turkish military complex are junks as well...grin

hmm. I dey laf o.. grincheesygrin
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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by NairaMinted: 12:39pm On Mar 19, 2017
Appleyard:
I'm not in the least worried because the Russians are not that foolish to entrust such a state-of-the-art weapon into the hands of a member of his notorious arch rival-NATO. They talk, but the deal won't go through.

However, there is something people are overlooking here; and it is that for a NATO MEMBER NATION to be keen on purchasing the s-400, it entails that There is nothing like it in the west at the moment. grin It also effectively tore to shreds the zombie propaganda and blind man's stereotypical narrative prevailing in the west that Russian weapons are junks...

I'm wondering why would a NATO member state wants to buy junk from an adversary...cool. It must be that the supposed junk has no rival in the entire west at the moment...grin Except some of my Langley friends from the western prison of illusion can prove to me that Erdoghan and the entire Turkish military complex are junks as well...grin

hmm. I dey laf o.. grincheesygrin
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I agree with all you have said

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by Nobody: 1:33pm On Mar 19, 2017
Appleyard:
I'm not in the least worried because the Russians are not that foolish to entrust such a state-of-the-art weapon into the hands of a member of his notorious arch rival-NATO. They talk, but the deal won't go through.

However, there is something people are overlooking here; and it is that for a NATO MEMBER NATION to be keen on purchasing the s-400, it entails that There is nothing like it in the west at the moment. grin It also effectively tore to shreds the zombie propaganda and blind man's stereotypical narrative prevailing in the west that Russian weapons are junks...

I'm wondering why would a NATO member state wants to buy junk from an adversary...cool. It must be that the supposed junk has no rival in the entire west at the moment...grin Except some of my Langley friends from the western prison of illusion can prove to me that Erdoghan and the entire Turkish military complex are junks as well...grin

hmm. I dey laf o.. grincheesygrin
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..
.

It never even occur to me. Y would a NATO country that has access to acquire the useless Amerikan Patriot MDS and the overrated Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) be looking to buying a Russian Missile Defense System which is widely considered a junk by Amerika - unless, ofcourse, the superiority of the so called junk has no rival in the Amerika's bristling arsenal of weapons. grin

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by Appleyard(m): 5:42pm On Mar 19, 2017
Zoharariel:


It never even occur to me. Y would a NATO country that has access to acquire the useless Amerikan Patriot MDS and the overrated Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) be looking to buying a Russian Missile Defense System which is widely considered a junk by Amerika - unless, ofcourse, the superiority of the so called junk has no rival in the Amerika's bristling arsenal of weapons. grin
Exactly my point! grin

It is only those that love to drink the Kool aid ditch out to them regularly by fake news networks that believe the fallacies being parroted by those western media covens and their Langley grand-masters. But those that matters knows what lies beneath the ocean. I have lost count of how many times Benjam Netanyahoo have run to and fro the Moscow air route because of Russian weaponries like the S-300 being in the hands of Syria, and yet; the pigmies from Langley want us to believe they're junks. cool And now, is Turkey asking for the S-400....In other words, the military top brass and leaders of these two renowned nations understands that what is constantly being parroted in the MSM are just lies and fairytales for the babies like we have down here..... wink

These leaders knew that when it comes to Rocket technology, the West are still learning how to fix the screws! and that's a fact! cool grin cool

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by Nobody: 5:49pm On Mar 19, 2017
Appleyard:
[/b] Exactly my point! grin

It is only those that love to drink the Kool aid ditch out to them regularly by fake news networks that believe the fallacies being parroted by those western media covens and their Langley grand-masters. But those that matters knows what lies beneath the ocean. I have lost count of how many times Benjam Netanyahoo have run to and fro the Moscow air route because of Russian weaponries like the S-300 being in the hands of Syria, and yet; the pigmies from Langley want us to believe they're junks. cool And now, is Turkey asking for the S-400....In other words, the military top brass and leaders of these two renowned nations understands that what is constantly being parroted in the MSM are just lies and fairytales for the babies like we have down here..... wink

These leaders knew that when it comes to Rocket technology, the West are still learning to fix the screws! and that's a fact! cool grin cool

I suppose you mean ValerianSteel & our wife - Missy89 grin cheesy grin

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by Appleyard(m): 6:06pm On Mar 19, 2017
fineguy11:
selling the s-400 to Turkey shldn't call for worry or concern...what makes an air defence system effective isn't the weapon itself,...but the sophistication of the different levels/types of radar that av been integrated into the s-4oo system....russia may have sold the s-400 to china,india,and lately turkey,but the most advanced radar systems wasn't fitted into the exported variants.

I think you made lot of sense. I think It might have to do with this:


REDDIT
That's a lot of radar.
That's a lot of radar.

When the Soviet Union collapsed, Russia's missile attack warning system became an incomplete patchwork of radars, creating serious vulnerabilities.

Not anymore. Moscow has finally completed a unified anti-missile radar defense system which covers its entire territory with advanced Voronezh radars capable of detecting enemy missile launches up to 6,000 kilometers away.

Russia's radar system isn't just massive — it's also extremely effective. The use of multiple radars to track a single target makes it possible to better calculate an incoming missile’s trajectory.

And of course, once the trajectory is calculated, it's just a matter of time before it comes within range of a patiently waiting S-400.


As Vesti reports:
[b]Anything launched from the Arabian Peninsula, Madagascar or India, whether they are ballistic missiles, satellites, or simply space garbage, it will all be seen from Orenburg radar station. We are able to track objects in space, everything from spaceships and ballistic missiles, to warheads the size of a soccer ball. Each radar can simultaneously track up to 500 objects. This allows us to fully control what happens to any object that approaches Russia. Regarding the modernization of the existing facilities and the opening of the three new radar stations in Orsk, Barnaul, and Yeniseysk, Russia's skies are now fully protected around its perimeter.

The Voronezh radar station is far superior to its global counterparts.

[/b]Watch the full report:



We guess this means John McCain's life-long dream of lobbing a missile at Moscow is off the table?

And again; if Russia is selling the S-400, it's because there something more sinister in the offing....The S-500 may be.. wink

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by Appleyard(m): 6:17pm On Mar 19, 2017
Zoharariel:


I suppose you mean ValerianSteel & our wife - Missy89 grin cheesy grin

It is you that sayeth.... cheesy

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by bonechamberlain(m): 8:19pm On Mar 28, 2017
scully95:
I bet it's not safe to sell these complex machines, second to non on the planet earth to Turkey, a mere traitor that would likely sell it out or allow NATO crooks to test junkie counter-measure on it. If for anything Turkey cannot or should never be trusted.

What do you say @ Appleyard, Shym3xx, GTkester, Poseidon000 aka Cyprus000, Nairaminted, Bonechamberlain, Hungryboy, Seagulsntrawler, Janujaz, Naijatalktown, Phrenelogy, Overhypedsteve, Underground, Seunny4lif, ShinnBet, Fineguy11, Capip120, Lumiere91, Barram, Romme2u, Stalwert





selling to Turkey, would be a disaster.

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by Lucasbalo(m): 10:37pm On Mar 28, 2017
Appleyard:


It is you that sayeth.... cheesy
Appleyard and Baba Ijebu sharing the same wife. Trouble brewing in Russian Generals rank. I am running back to my underground bunker in Chitown before the missilles starts flying.
Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by Appleyard(m): 11:54pm On Mar 28, 2017
Lucasbalo:
Appleyard and Baba Ijebu sharing the same wife. Trouble brewing in Russian Generals rank. I am running back to my underground bunker in Chitown before the missilles starts flying.

Hahahahahahahaha grin grin grin grin
Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by cstr151: 7:30am On Mar 29, 2017
Appleyard:
I'm not in the least worried because the Russians are not that foolish to entrust such a state-of-the-art weapon into the hands of a member of his notorious arch rival-NATO. They talk, but the deal won't go through.

However, there is something people are overlooking here; and it is that for a NATO MEMBER NATION to be keen on purchasing the s-400, it entails that There is nothing like it in the west at the moment. grin It also effectively tore to shreds the zombie propaganda and blind man's stereotypical narrative prevailing in the west that Russian weapons are junks...

I'm wondering why would a NATO member state wants to buy junk from an adversary...cool. It must be that the supposed junk has no rival in the entire west at the moment...grin Except some of my Langley friends from the western prison of illusion can prove to me that Erdoghan and the entire Turkish military complex are junks as well...grin

hmm. I dey laf o.. grincheesygrin
.
..
.
[b]Well, you may have a point. As much as it is hard to admit, it is the bitter truth. The s-400 looks like a superior stuff to the patriots. And it is a consequence of the united states not dedicating enough Research and devt funds and time to missile defence programes like they way they do stealth technology devt , aircraft carriers and laser guns, because in all honesty, defence is not our military doctrine. The US is a nation that attacks with overwhelming power and so the patriots( a very very highly sophisticated system btw) is deemed sufficient and it actually is for threats of today.
This is a nation that has over 700 military bases around the world which are more or less centers for quick offensive actions.
I am hoping for a change atleast for the sake of our NATO allies and the arms market. I am certain that if the US invests as much time and priority to conventional Missile defence development as the Russians, the world is going to get something truly unrivalled like the F-22 Raptor and the USS-NIMITZ.
But turkey is a traitor though. They want the best shiny thing anywhere it can be found while compromising NATO. And I am hoping the US deals with them. [/b]
Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by scully95: 9:20am On Mar 29, 2017
cstr151:

Well, you may have a point. As much as it is hard to admit, it is the bitter truth. The s-400 looks like a superior stuff to the patriots. And it is a consequence of the united states not dedicating enough Research and devt funds and time to missile defence programes like they way they do stealth technology devt , aircraft carriers and laser guns, because in all honesty, defence is not our military doctrine.

The US is a nation that attacks with overwhelming power and so the patriots( a very very highly sophisticated system btw) is deemed sufficient and it actually is for threats of today.

When you say half truth, it's good but not enough to continue believing in your own lies. This is what the U.S know how to do best, that is sell lies too much. I am glad you admitted that S-400 is far superior to the Patriot, but the real truth you are not saying is that, U.S has no doctrine, what it believes is The Best Form of Defense is to Attack. Now that is OYO.. On your own. Again another truth you are not telling is U.S industrial complex of junks like to build something and set up an artificial warfare to test that peace of junk and then sell it to all its puppets. That is not a doctrine, that is just a Business crookie marketing ideology. Something Russia does the opposite. There is a say that if you want to win war, buy Russian techs. But if you just want to flex muscle or buga, buy American junks. Russia looks into current conflict and build something to counter such in a real combat zone before selling it out to those who need it. That is the real machine that wins war.



cstr151:

This is a nation that has over 700 military bases around the world which are more or less centers for quick offensive actions.
I am hoping for a change atleast for the sake of our NATO allies and the arms market. I am certain that if the US invests as much time and priority to conventional Missile defence development as the Russians, the world is going to get something truly unrivalled like the F-22 Raptor and the USS-NIMITZ.

Did you say F-22 flying junk ? Did you call that over rated junk 'unrivalled' and USS-NIMITZ (a mere seating duck) ? again balls down to what I have just explained above. F-22 flown once in Syria and that's it. Nothing and it was on the side of the terrorist U.S were supporting in Syria just for marketing purpose. How many countries placed order for it compared to another junkie over rated f-35 that is not "flying yet" according to Canadian PM.

cstr151:

But turkey is a traitor though. They want the best shiny thing anywhere it can be found while compromising NATO. And I am hoping the US deals with them.

I kinda agree with you here but the last thing Russia needs is to go into war with Turkey. So if major war breaks out tomorrow, having Turkey as an unstable ally is better even for Russia as it will reduce the number of NATO death records since Turkey has the largest number of Army in the NATO crookie alliance. A lot easier for Russia and less Genocidal by the time total war breaks out. So selling s-400 is just political, Russia wont dare sell the state of the art S-400 it to turkey, except may be the exported ones for Political wooing Turkey to Russia's axis... Forget it.

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by jnhmaxxwell: 12:10pm On Mar 29, 2017
cstr151:
It is about time the United states dealt with Turkey in its own way. Benefiting From US protection and at same time playing hanky panky with the enemy.
It is a shame that we need them though due to their geo-political importance .
Of all the NATO countries, they are the most backward. No wonder the UK and some NATO members wants turkey kicked out.
Looking more like a third world dictatorship, than a NATO member.

How ? Didn't the same U.S try and failed in the last coup ? I wonder why we still have people that continue to reason like a child.
U.S should deal with Turkey how, via sanctions ? (That would be final suicide and shooting itself in the Leg for U.S)

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by Nobody: 4:17pm On Mar 29, 2017
jnhmaxxwell:


How ? Didn't the same U.S try and failed in the last coup ? I wonder why we still have people that continue to reason like a child.
U.S should deal with Turkey how, via sanctions ? (That would be final suicide and shooting itself in the Leg for U.S)

Stop quoting that boy, he & ValerianSteel are protege of Abubakar Al-Baghdadi & are currently undergoing rigorous training in Benghazi, Libya grin cheesy grin

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by seunny4lif(m): 10:42pm On Mar 29, 2017
grin
Zoharariel:


Stop quoting that boy, he & ValerianSteel are protege of Abubakar Al-Baghdadi & are currently undergoing rigorous training in Benghazi, Libya grin cheesy grin

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by scully95: 12:18pm On Mar 17, 2018
Lol these Anglozionist Senators are living a fake life, they are really out of TOUCH. Can anyone imagine this? See update bellow.

US SENATE WARNS RUSSIA OF SANCTIONS IF S-400 SOLD TO ANY FOREIGN NATIONS

WASHINGTON (Sputnik) - A group of US lawmakers led by Senator Bob Menendez told the State Department in a letter that any sale of Russian S-400 air defense system should lead to new punitive measures as stipulated in the Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA).

"We are writing today to specifically inquire about reported negotiations between Russia and certain countries over sales of the Russian government’s S-400 air defense system and whether these reported deals could trigger mandatory CAATSA sanctions," the letter said on Friday. "Under any circumstance, a S-400 sale would be considered a 'significant transaction' and we expect that any sale would result in designations."

The lawmakers also requested that the State Department provide detailed analysis on the current status of Russian S-400 talks with China, Turkey, India, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and any other country.

The senators based their letter on a report produced by the Congressional Research Service, which showed that Russia has been working on potential defense deals with different countries.

Menendez and co-signers demanded information on how the State Department is trying to prevent the sales of S-400 being finalized and reiterated Washington's accusations of Russia's aggression in Ukraine and meddling in democratic process in foreign states.
The request comes just a day after the Treasury Department used the CAATSA legislation, along with an Executive Order that was amended by CAATSA, to impose sanctions on five entities and 19 individuals.

Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB), Main Intelligence Directorate and six Russian individuals were sanctioned under the CAATSA legislation.

The US Congress passed CAATSA last summer in response to allegations that Russia sought to influence the 2016 US presidential election. Trump signed it into law on August 2.

Russia has repeatedly denied all allegations of interference in the US election, calling the accusations "absurd."

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Re: Ankara Not To Integrate S-400 System Into NATO Missile Defense System (*Update*) by JUHABACH: 4:06pm On Mar 17, 2018
scully95:


When you say half truth, it's good but not enough to continue believing in your own lies. This is what the U.S know how to do best, that is sell lies too much. I am glad you admitted that S-400 is far superior to the Patriot, but the real truth you are not saying is that, U.S has no doctrine, what it believes is The Best Form of Defense is to Attack. Now that is OYO.. On your own. Again another truth you are not telling is U.S industrial complex of junks like to build something and set up an artificial warfare to test that peace of junk and then sell it to all its puppets. That is not a doctrine, that is just a Business crookie marketing ideology. Something Russia does the opposite. There is a say that if you want to win war, buy Russian techs. But if you just want to flex muscle or buga, buy American junks. Russia looks into current conflict and build something to counter such in a real combat zone before selling it out to those who need it. That is the real machine that wins war.





Did you say F-22 flying junk ? Did you call that over rated junk 'unrivalled' and USS-NIMITZ (a mere seating duck) ? again balls down to what I have just explained above. F-22 flown once in Syria and that's it. Nothing and it was on the side of the terrorist U.S were supporting in Syria just for marketing purpose. How many countries placed order for it compared to another junkie over rated f-35 that is not "flying yet" according to Canadian PM.

smh. I know your type. y'all are ignorant folks who refuse to actually do research yet make noise up and down. I normally ignore your type but right now I have a bit of free time so here goes:
1) the s400 is superior to the Patriot missle system. there is no doubt about that. but the u.s. has never concerned itself with talk less of putting emphasis on air defense. it s more focused on ballistic missile defense which is what the Patriot missle is good at and which THAAD excels at (its radar capabilities alone worried China to the extent of considering imposing sanctions on SK for allowing it's installation).
the u.s. seeks air superiority (see the difference) hence literally every military unit (save maybe the army) has state of the art aircrafts enough to compete with any modern airforce. but if you want an idea of what a u.s. air defense would look like, do yourself a favor and Google "Aegis combat system"
2) Military doctrine : the greed of the U.S. industrial complex is well known but to say the u.s. has no military doctrine is a stupid assertion. the u.s. military doctrine varies depending on the specific needs of the various armed forces (e.g. marines are more of a quick strike force while the army usually serves long term military goals). However the overarching military principle of the U.S. is simply the ability to wage multiple wars on multiple fronts simultaneously. in fact under President Lyndon Johnson, the doctrine was specifically to be able to wage "21/2" wars i.e. two full scale wars and multiple small scale conflicts. hence why the U.S. has so many military bases, focuses more on offensive weapons and relies on air superiority (which is an effective way of destroying enemy targets whilst reducing casualty numbers). to give you a picture, the largest Airforce in the world is the U.S. Airforce. the second largest, the U.S. Navy.
also fyi, the u.s. is the only country with fighter jets dedicated primarily for the purpose of Electronic warfare (Google the E18 Growler). Basically why beat the s400 with stealth when you can combine stealth and an electronic offensive. (Google "S.e.a.d."wink

3) U.S. makes "junks": I won't lie, I chuckled a bit when I read this. to save time, let's go through the weapons you specified
i) USS Nimitz; first of all, Russia would kill to have a super carrier though considering the costs, it would probably severely injure their already fragile economy. But first, if a super carrier is such a "sitting duck" why is China developing one (with plans for more). because even a military novice understand the utility of having the ability to wage full scale war either defensively or in defense of allies away from home. no other country can do it (fyi, Syria is pretty close to Eastern Europe where russia is so that doesn't exactly count). War is not just won by superior weapons but by *LOGISTICS* . the ability to move massive amount of troops and fire power in an instant, the ability to literally bring the equivalent of another military base to another Territory without so much as a single brick, the ability to utilize air superiority to its full potential etc. all these and more showcase the huge utility of super carriers. it's not my fault that you don't understand basic military strategy.
as for the USS Nimitz being "sitting duck", apart from the fact that it has its own defense systems, no super carrier is ever truly alone. I would have thought you at least know what is called a "Carrier strike group". it's is being defended by a squadron of u.s.s. destroyers with a defense radius of over 400 kms (basically anything with weapons that comes within 100 kms and isn't recognised as an ally better have a death wish). it is also guarded by nuclear hunter subs and has Seahawks which are specifically designed to hunt subs from the air (Note that each destroyer also has anti submarine capabilities) and all these weapons are being coordinated by Aegis, literally the best combat system on the planet capable of taking over 100 targets from sea,air, land and under water simultaneously (can't wait for your rant about how it's all "lies and junk"wink. Basically, good luck taking out a USS Nimitz

ii) F22; not even gonna bother explaining just how advanced the f22 is. just gonna state the fact that somehow you actually got something right (clap for yourself). no other country is trying to buy the f22. because after classified briefing, the u.s. congress deemed it too advanced to risk it's info falling into enemy hand hence all forms of export of the f22 was banned.
iii) F35; *sigh* at this rate I have to wonder what you ve been smoking. the f 35 is a technological marvel, a true 21st century multi role jet with capabilities russia can only dream of. it has a lot of bugs which need to be fixed but considering the roles it s meant to play and the fact that it's going to be in operation till 2070 and well, ... you get the idea.
also, it flies just fine and has been operational for over a year now.
the Israelis were full of praise for it and multiple allies are falling over themselves to get one. Pls a simple research before posting would save you a lot of embarrassment in future.

P.S. I didn't even have to Google much of the above. most are facts I already know cause I have a bit of interest in military hardware.

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