Icon4s:


Same goes for Shehu Abdullahi.

I don't think Shehu is as regular as Musa is for SE. You may not agree, but time will tell

tbaba1234:


I was just speculating, It is probably not true

Ok.

ChrisKels:


One thing I don't do is argue blindly. And I also hate reasoning parochially. Did I contradict ur fact? Ain't we saying same thing? Yea he scored two against the Argies and I give him credit for that. But I still maintain by stance, maybe u c it as a damning verdict. Prior to those two goals against the Argies, Musa had not done anything as spectacular and he hasn't been able to achieve same fit ever again. Maybe u didn't understand the world HIGHLIGHT. quote me outta context again or maybe get my message misconstrued just to undermine the claims, and I no go reply u again sir.

I asked u a simple question and u want to give me part 1 and part 2. Nobody else as ever scored 2 goals in the wc for Nigeria so it makes sense that Musa be remembered for that.

TheSuperNerd:
Now lemme reply him.... Chaaaiiiiii... Oga Experience himself.... the arch Guardian and Lord Analyst of the House... I greet you Great one....


Chief Icon4s.... "Been Engaged" are the words for your question. Biko gbaram Oga... just manage the reply.

Truth is I am not fully back yet.... but you know I had to be where he Eagles were gathering..... I had to make out time coz I am still super busy and yes I have taken my time to go thru most of what I missed from pages back...








Now.... Sir... let us talk small business of copyright...

Oya.... I had to cite you when using that word so biko.... I need official permanent permit and authorisation from you to be using the word and also the "Not there yet" tags when necessary.... I am still an apostle of youth and Verve mixed with Constant Growth... but sometimes... I make reference to experience and I don't want you coming for my head when I do so biko....



And on Iwobi.... yeah... Rohr now sees Iwobi would find it hellish against Cameroon.... Anyway, we will find a way around it... Mikel, or etebo... whatever it is... we will find a way.



For the bolded..... I just dey laugh here..... abeg... no comment for now on that one... lolllll

Ok Copy right licence granted.

But i will never give it to TheGoodJoe bc he never agreed that word 'EXPERIENCE' even existed in soccer.
He is even beginning to sound like me of late.

As for what you are doing. Not to worry jst stay focused we here will keep the flat flying.

Jefersoun:
I don't think Shehu is as regular as Musa is for SE. You may not agree, but time will tell

You may say Musa has stayed longer in the team. But ever since after the 2014 WC Shehu has made almost every match squad for the Super Eagles.

safarigirl:
we dey find who go score hat trick. Hopefully, when we get to Russia, Musa will act like Kante during Leicester v. Sevilla and be clapping for his replacement in the stands

I am sure Rohr will do the right thing.

Icon4s:


Ok Copy right licence granted.

But i will never give it to TheGoodJoe bc he never agreed that word 'EXPERIENCE' even existed in soccer.
He is even beginning to sound like me of late.

As for what you are doing. Not to worry jst stay focused we here will keep the flat flying.

Abeg any day Thegoodjoe mention experience he should be fined by you. lol

We share similar hope for Nacho and our rising stars..


do you know Kelechi Nwakali was the only African player tied to an African country who made it to the NxtGen Top 50 U-19 world talents won by Donnarumma with Mbappe in second and Pulisic in third? Nwakali was ranked 46th I think..


Look Sir GoodJoe.... I only hope this phase of preps doesn't take longer than usual.... Nacho is one of the central pieces of our rising new Super Eagles having the likeliest chance of becoming our next golden generation.

TheGoodJoe:


I see this phase as Nacho preparing for his exams and when he gets playing time or moves to another as the exams where he excels.

Icon4s:


You may say Musa has stayed longer in the team. But ever since after the 2014 WC Shehu has made almost every match squad for the Super Eagles.

But am telling you what have observed long ago, this has being the norm. We must have a balance team.

Chaaaiiiiii.... @bolded... Safari... well put jare... well put... Musa is not to he discarded entirely though... but definitely, we are looking at doing bugger things and realising our fullest potentials on the world stage... we are not settling for "just a brace"

I like your forward thinking comment...

safarigirl:
we dey find who go score hat trick. Hopefully, when we get to Russia, Musa will act like Kante during Leicester v. Sevilla and be clapping for his replacement in the stands

Lolll..... Merci Beaucoup Great Chief....

Now I am free to use these licensed words.... loll


TheGoodjoe.... You are not permitted ooo... Sir Icon4s thinks .... you are "not there yet"

Icon4s:


Ok Copy right licence granted.

But i will never give it to TheGoodJoe bc he never agreed that word 'EXPERIENCE' even existed in soccer.
He is even beginning to sound like me of late.

As for what you are doing. Not to worry jst stay focused we here will keep the flat flying.

Another player I would boot outta this team is Moses Simon. Too predictable, keeps doin same thing over and again, yet expecting a different result. He has been as poor as anything in our competitive matches. Time will tell Sha. I hope Onyekuru, Kalu, bazee are improvements on both Musa and Moses so that they get consigned to the bench or worse yet, left out entirely, since they have refused to grow.

Plz I want Aluko back, I doubt he would have been as poor as iwobi was today behind the main striker.

Here is the link to Kelechi's penalty goal against Senegal today (I mean yesterday).......



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZPy-BP8V_w

It looks like Iwobi was quite poor.. Etebo, Ogu and Mdidi should start the next game.

As Siasia would say. Forwards should not be predictable. Simon is good, but we have to start thinking about beating the likes of Germany someday. We need to start building with that in view. I did not see any clips of the match besides Iheanacho's penalty goal. So I can't comment yet on this one.
But owngoal said Success Isaac caused Senegal all kind of problems. I've always thought Success to be a good match up against Cameroon. We need physical and skillful players, not petit and soft players that Cameroon would characteristically pocket. I still think Success has great potential. The premier league may not be his thing.

I've always said Iwobi will not fare well against Cameroon and teams that play like them. For the same reason above. I don't think he can really play the physical African game.

I tow your line of thinking on the likes of ONyekuru, Bazee and Kalu, because for a while now the duo of Moses Simon and Musa have not been impressive (IMO) especially in Nigeria's colors.

ChrisKels:
Another player I would boot outta this team is Moses Simon. Too predictable, keeps doin same thing over and again, yet expecting a different result. He has been as poor as anything in our competitive matches. Time will tell Sha. I hope Onyekuru, Kalu, bazee are improvements on both Musa and Moses so that they get consigned to the bench or worse yet, left out entirely, since they have refused to grow.

Plz I want Aluko back, I doubt he would have been as poor as iwobi was today behind the main striker.

ChrisKels:
Another player I would boot outta this team is Moses Simon. Too predictable, keeps doin same thing over and again, yet expecting a different result. He has been as poor as anything in our competitive matches. Time will tell Sha. I hope Onyekuru, Kalu, bazee are improvements on both Musa and Moses so that they get consigned to the bench or worse yet, left out entirely, since they have refused to grow.

Plz I want Aluko back, I doubt he would have been as poor as iwobi was today behind the main striker.

cut Iwobi some slack, boy was just introduced to the hard tackling African style, he'll need a couple of ganes to adjust, but not so many we're drafting in Aluko for him.


We have capable legs that can fill in where needed pending when he gets the hang of it

Honestly Wilfred Ndidi should be a mainstay in the Super Eagles Midfield..... Lord!!!!!!! What a player he is..... Long ago, Sir TheGoodjoe said Ndidi may indeed be the true heir to Oliseh's long vacated throne.... and just hours back... Sir Tbaba1234 have uttered the same thing....


If I didn't know better... I would term him world class already but I feel I would be too froward... but give him time.... like within the next two years or so.... he will be referred to as a true world class midfield enforcer and operator....

This is what this new generation needs.... an avalanche of young dedicated players who will move from being "potential world class" to actual world class

21-25 -- the age range they peak. Not necessarily meaning they experience a deep after 25?

Icon4s:


No na. I dnt think so.

Musa, though has not been at his best of late, has been a strong member of this team. Remember his brace against Argentina and his power strike against SA in the last friendly game we played against them.

I have suggested that he b converted to a supporting striker.

Besides, Ahmed Musa has passed his peak.

He peaked around 2014-2015 but meanwhile he is just 24.

Aha! who was i pointing out to the other day that most West African strikers peak between 21 and 25?

my brother welcome back!!! lol

I'm glad Ndidi is beginning to warm your heart.

TheSuperNerd:
Honestly Wilfred Ndidi should be a mainstay in the Super Eagles Midfield..... Lord!!!!!!! What a player he is..... Long ago, Sir TheGoodjoe said Ndidi may indeed be the true heir to Oliseh's long vacated throne.... and just hours back... Sir Tbaba1234 have uttered the same thing....


If I didn't know better... I would term him world class already but I feel I would be too froward... but give him time.... like within the next two years or so.... he will be referred to as a true world class midfield enforcer and operator....

This is what this new generation needs.... an avalanche of young dedicated players who will move from being "potential world class" to actual world class

Top comment....



And Thanks for all the beautiful pictures from camp leading up to this game Sir Tbaba.... seeing them pages back just gave me some goosebumps... Chaaaiiiiii... such unity.... especially when Bazee and Ebuehi were dancing in their initiation... loollll....

tbaba1234:
A very young Nigerian team held its own against a strong Senegalese team. That is certainly a positive. There is a lot of good to look forward to. Remember, Mikel and Victor Moses were missing.

I always had this bad feeling that he will not live up to expectation in Leicester. But should he prove me wrong next season I would be happy for him. Club career can sometimes affect your national career. I don't think he is finished.. But at the moment, we have better options.

ChrisKels:
I pointed out some pages back that the high point of of Musa' s career with the Eagles remains his two goals against the Argies and some misguided guys were calling for my head, they even went as far as telling me about his exploits in an obscure league like the the Russian league, forgetting the fact that I was specific with my assertions. To those guys quoting me that day, I still repeat it again, Musa's highlight with EAGLES remains his two goals against the Argies.

I guess some people were not expecting us to come outta this game unscathed, reason was that the guys didn't come through the English youth system and they were selected outta nepotism or what they termed ARRANGEE. I haven't been seeing much of thier comments, I guess they have gone into hibernation waiting for any slip ups in order to pounce. Nigerians eh

wingers that can run and not tire out? Wingers that have the ability to defend? I believe so.

Kakamorufu:
3-4-3 won't be bad. cos we have lots of wingers now

You are so right about Simon Moses' predictable style of playing.... I have watched both he and Kalu Smauel this season at Kaa Gent... and I gotta tell ya... Samuel Kalu is almost unplayable for Gent but simon can be benched... Kalu brings more to wingplay and got bags of tricks and turns of pace better than Simon....

Simon is still a good player but he got to up his game. As for our competitive matches ... I have to truthfully say he did score a wonderful freekick against Swaziland (under oliseh.... a game where Mikel was benched for Onobi.... chaaiiii... Super Eagles haff suffered) in the second round of WCQs that for us into this final group stage of qualification. He was also one of our beat that day shaa.... but overall... He has not overly convinced in the Super Eagles shirt.... just yet.

ChrisKels:
Another player I would boot outta this team is Moses Simon. Too predictable, keeps doin same thing over and again, yet expecting a different result. He has been as poor as anything in our competitive matches. Time will tell Sha. I hope Onyekuru, Kalu, bazee are improvements on both Musa and Moses so that they get consigned to the bench or worse yet, left out entirely, since they have refused to grow.

Plz I want Aluko back, I doubt he would have been as poor as iwobi was today behind the main striker.

Thanks Sir Joebie........


And actually.... Ndidi have always been on my radar oooo.... it is just that I speak more of Nacho and Iwobi as these two always steal the headlines among our players on this thread for good or bad reasons... looolll.... people always talk about these two so you will see me then trying to balance views out...


But not all remember that I gave Ndidi a nichname in our national team... here on this thread or the previous thread before this... it has been a while...

Wilfred "The Rock" Ndidi......

So Ndidi have always been in my heart........

Joebie:
my brother welcome back!!! lol

I'm glad Ndidi is beginning to warm your heart.

Lolllll....... Sir Chris....... you ehn.....

ChrisKels:
I guess some people were not expecting us to come outta this game unscathed, reason was that the guys didn't come through the English youth system and they were selected outta nepotism or what they termed ARRANGEE. I haven't been seeing much of thier comments, I guess they have gone into hibernation waiting for any slip ups in order to pounce. Nigerians eh

Can I get a summary of the game? I understand it was 1-1 final score. We should be smashing a stranded Senegalese team like this. Am not impressed with the scoreline am seeing at all.

I've been clamoring for Onazi's replacement in the SE midfield for some time now. It's our job to observe. No one is particularly right or wrong until it is proven on the pitch.

So glad we have a new look midfield in Ogu and Ndidi.

Mickael2:


I pointed out a long time ago that Onazi is not made for a possession based team, I am not happy that he is injured but the difference in our play with and without Onazi ought to have enlightened his die hard fans right about now

At presser Gernot Rohr said his asst coach Salisu has told him about @MFMFC_Lagos striker Stephen Odey, that the kid will get opportunity. But he has a lot of strikers on his hands at the moment - Iheanacho, Kayode, Success, etc. Odey's time will come. #NGASEN

-@Jololade

TheSuperNerd:
Lolllll....... Sir Chris....... you ehn.....

Lol bro. Welcome back jor.

I remember arguing with you once when we had that Mikel talk, that he will make a good replacement, but anyways you prefer Mikel as a number 10, so this won't apply. For now that #10 position can be marshaled very well by Mikel or Etebo

TheSuperNerd:

Thanks Sir Joebie........


And actually.... Ndidi have always been on my radar oooo.... it is just that I speak more of Nacho and Iwobi as these two always steal the headlines among our players on this thread for good or bad reasons... looolll.... people always talk about these two so you will see me then trying to balance views out...


But not all remember that I gave Ndidi a nichname in our national team... here on this thread or the previous thread before this... it has been a while...

Wilfred "The Rock" Ndidi......

So Ndidi have always been in my heart........

Odey is down the pecking order. Not saying he is not better than some of the strikers already in the Eagles. When he gets his chance he had better score a hart-trick.. lol

tbaba1234:
At presser Gernot Rohr said his asst coach Salisu has told him about @MFMFC_Lagos striker Stephen Odey, that the kid will get opportunity. But he has a lot of strikers on his hands at the moment - Iheanacho, Kayode, Success, etc. Odey's time will come. #NGASEN

-@Jololade