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Re: Buratai, 13 Others Taken To U.S. District Court Over Biafra Protests. by jumobi1(m): 2:28pm On Jun 14, 2017
abbey621:


It's one of the lowest courts, not the lowest. I think English is a simple language but we make it complicated at times!

The man is right. District Courts are the lowest federal courts. It is in no way one of the lowest courts in the USA. Unless you're mixing it up with State District courts. If you say it's one of the lowest then what would you call a town court?

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Re: Buratai, 13 Others Taken To U.S. District Court Over Biafra Protests. by jumobi1(m): 2:35pm On Jun 14, 2017
Ispiksdatroof20:


You did good on everything else, and I completely agree with your premise, but just a quick question:

ON WHAT PLANET IS THE U.S COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE FIFTH CIRCUIT SITUATED IN NEW YORK?!


I swear you Nigerians and the tendency to pretend to know something which you're obviously not versed in....

5th in NY lol. Now that's too funny. I don't even think he can call that a typo.
Re: Buratai, 13 Others Taken To U.S. District Court Over Biafra Protests. by jumobi1(m): 2:46pm On Jun 14, 2017
Ispiksdatroof20:


And here we go again.....

This country has almost 100 Federal Judicial Districts and each State/Territory had at least one District Court. Depending on the size of the State there can be as many as 3-5 separate District Courts in it. Take New York State for example, as small as the Boroughs are, there are District Courts in Manhattan, Brooklyn, and Whiteplains; and we haven't yet started talking about the ones upstate in places like Albany, Rochester, Buffalo etc. Then if we move over to bigger states like Texas, California etc You get the point now don't you?

I think its a Nigerian thing to try and bamboozle people. Its just the same way your politicians seem to have succeeded in keeping your whole society in bondage.

You're the man sir but White Plains isn't in any NYC borough. No it's not in the Bronx.
Re: Buratai, 13 Others Taken To U.S. District Court Over Biafra Protests. by bobowaja(m): 5:18pm On Jun 14, 2017
comrChris:
you are evil...

If you think burutai commited no crime for allowing his men shoot on unarmed protesters then such will before you and your family

That is how you guys go about cursing everyone else except yourselves. I won't curse you back because only weak minds resort to curses when matters of intellects arises. He cant even spell correctly na real before grin grin

Burutai is only doing his work as contained in the Constitution guiding his role in the country.
Re: Buratai, 13 Others Taken To U.S. District Court Over Biafra Protests. by Ispiksdatroof20: 5:45pm On Jun 14, 2017
jumobi1:


As an AUSA, you are a criminal prosecutor. Claims under the TVPA and the ATCA are usually civil matters and don't involve federal prosecutors. I'm no expert here but I studied the TVPA hard in law school.

I was a defense attorney for a brief period; but even that has no bearing on what we are talking about. What has my past as Prosecutor got to do with the issue at hand? Nothing! Wasn't I the one that quoted the Saro-wiwa et all case using the other handle with I deactivated? So, you mean I should have no idea on procedural matters? You, as a claimed Attorney, should know better.

Anyway, none of us knows how this is all going to go down. But, if experience is worth anything, I'd say this case will most likely be put on the back burner then eventually tossed. And WITH PREJUDICE to boot.
Re: Buratai, 13 Others Taken To U.S. District Court Over Biafra Protests. by Ispiksdatroof20: 5:49pm On Jun 14, 2017
abbey621:


It's one of the lowest courts, not the lowest. I think English is a simple language but we make it complicated at times!

Have you ever heard that saying that "Its better to keep quiet and be thought of a f00l, than open your mouth and erase all doubts?". It is very apt in this case.

The U.S District Court is THE LOWEST COURT IN THE FEDERAL JUDICIAL SYSTEM.
Re: Buratai, 13 Others Taken To U.S. District Court Over Biafra Protests. by abbey621(m): 5:52pm On Jun 14, 2017
jumobi1:


The man is right. District Courts are the lowest federal courts. It is in no way one of the lowest courts in the USA. Unless you're mixing it up with State District courts. If you say it's one of the lowest then what would you call a town court?

My friend when you qualify something has one of the lowest, it does not automatically mean the lowest. E.g. We have 5 floors in a building, I could choose to say floor 3 or 2 represents one of the lowest floors. Now since we are talking about district courts and in this case federal district courts, I'm correct to call it one of the lowest because compared to circuit courts and Supreme court, it handles every trashy case thrown at it. Now being one of the lowest does not mean inefficient, it only means that cases of highly important magnitudes rarely ever gets settled in district courts. I hope I've been able to enlighten you a little bit....No need to thank me grin grin
Re: Buratai, 13 Others Taken To U.S. District Court Over Biafra Protests. by Ispiksdatroof20: 5:55pm On Jun 14, 2017
abbey621:


My friend when you qualify something has one of the lowest, it does not automatically mean the lowest. E.g. We have 5 floors in a building, I could choose to say floor 3 or 2 represents one of the lowest floors. Now since we are talking about district courts and in this case federal district courts, I'm correct to call it one of the lowest because compared to circuit courts and Supreme court, it handles every trashy case thrown at it. Now being one of the lowest does not mean inefficient, it only means that cases of highly important magnitudes rarely ever gets settled in district courts. I hope I've been able to enlighten you a little bit....No need to thank me grin grin

Again, the wise thing to do in this situation is to just scroll and read what others are writing.
Re: Buratai, 13 Others Taken To U.S. District Court Over Biafra Protests. by jumobi1(m): 5:57pm On Jun 14, 2017
Ispiksdatroof20:


I was a defense attorney for a brief period; but even that has no bearing on what we are talking about. What has my past as Prosecutor got to do with the issue at hand? Nothing! Wasn't I the one that quoted the Saro-wiwa et all case using the other handle with I deactivated? So, you mean I should have no idea on procedural matters? You, as a claimed Attorney, should know better.

Anyway, none of us knows how this is all going to go down. But, if experience is worth anything, I'd say this case will most likely be put on the back burner then eventually tossed. And WITH PREJUDICE to boot.

You're contradicting yourself. You're the one who said you were an AUSA. Now you claim it's irrelevant. Hmm.

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Re: Buratai, 13 Others Taken To U.S. District Court Over Biafra Protests. by abbey621(m): 5:58pm On Jun 14, 2017
Ispiksdatroof20:


Have you ever heard that saying that "Its better to keep quiet and be thought of a f00l, than open your mouth and erase all doubts?". It is very apt in this case.

The U.S District Court is THE LOWEST COURT IN THE FEDERAL JUDICIAL SYSTEM.

You are a lawyer or at least a law school graduate, it's pointless to argue that one of the lowest equals the lowest. What you wrote drastically differs from what I wrote, you might want to do yourself a favor and retrace my posts in this forum, nowhere did I call district courts the lowest, just one of the lower courts. No need to drag things of zero value to intelligence!
Re: Buratai, 13 Others Taken To U.S. District Court Over Biafra Protests. by Ispiksdatroof20: 5:59pm On Jun 14, 2017
jumobi1:


You're the man sir but White Plains isn't in any NYC borough. No it's not in the Bronx.

I know that, I was making a comparison between the District Courts in the areas surrounding the Boroughs and cities like Yonkers etc and those that are clearly "Upstate" like Albany, Buffalo, Troy etc. I was just showing how there are clearly more than 11 U.S District Courts in the United States contrary to the claims made by the fellow in the post I quoted.
Re: Buratai, 13 Others Taken To U.S. District Court Over Biafra Protests. by Ispiksdatroof20: 6:11pm On Jun 14, 2017
jumobi1:


You're contradicting yourself. You're the one who said you were an AUSA. Now you claim it's irrelevant. Hmm.

It is irrelevant in so far as you tried to use it as a criteria to whether I could be versed in the discussion at hand or not. You alleged I wasn't because, according to you: "As an AUSA, you are a criminal prosecutor. Claims under the TVPA and the ATCA are usually civil matters and don't involve federal prosecutors. I'm no expert here but I studied the TVPA hard in law school.". You also said I didn't know what I was talking about.

If you studied it in school what makes you think I didn't? And if Ive served in the Federal Court System longer than you, what makes you think I don't have more experience in how cases like this usually end up?

I do not think thats contradictory in any way.
Re: Buratai, 13 Others Taken To U.S. District Court Over Biafra Protests. by jumobi1(m): 6:22pm On Jun 14, 2017
Ispiksdatroof20:


It is irrelevant in so far as you tried to use it as a criteria to whether I could be versed in the discussion at hand or not. You alleged I wasn't because, according to you: "As an AUSA, you are a criminal prosecutor. Claims under the TVPA and the ATCA are usually civil matters and don't involve federal prosecutors. I'm no expert here but I studied the TVPA hard in law school.". You also said I didn't know what I was talking about.

If you studied it in school what makes you think I didn't? And if Ive served in the Federal Court System longer than you, what makes you think I don't have more experience in how cases like this usually end up?

I do not think thats contradictory in any way.

I disagreed with a poster and you attacked my credibility because you're a former AUSA. You didn't even tell me where I was mistaken. You simply lumped me up with Nigerians that talk about issues they know nothing about. Great!
Anyways I'm done with this discussion. The courts know best. Peace be onto you.

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Re: Buratai, 13 Others Taken To U.S. District Court Over Biafra Protests. by Ispiksdatroof20: 6:22pm On Jun 14, 2017
abbey621:

Now since we are talking about district courts and in this case federal district courts, I'm correct to call it one of the lowest because compared to circuit courts and Supreme court, it handles every trashy case thrown at it. Now being one of the lowest does not mean inefficient, it only means that cases of highly important magnitudes rarely ever gets settled in district courts. I hope I've been able to enlighten you a little bit....No need to thank me grin grin

Under normal Circumstances, I shouldn't indulge you because you are obviously trolling, but since Im bored I will.

You truly think State Circuit Courts are higher than Federal District Courts? You also really think Federal District Courts handle "every trashy case thrown at it"? grin grin grin

Believe it or not the U.S District Court is probably the MOST POWERFUL ENTITY IN ALL OF THE UNITED STATES; EVEN MORE POWERFUL THAN THE PRESIDENT. Except the Judges don't have the Nuke codes. If your case is not heard by the U.S District Court, it is not going to be heard by higher Courts like the Court of Appeals or Supreme Court. Do you get it now? So, don't think of "Low" in terms of "Worthless". It is low in terms of "hierarchy" and whatever has been decided in District Court is held in high regards by the higher courts.

I believe your country has a similar Judicial system if I'm not mistaken.
Re: Buratai, 13 Others Taken To U.S. District Court Over Biafra Protests. by Ispiksdatroof20: 6:25pm On Jun 14, 2017
jumobi1:


I disagreed with a poster and you attacked my credibility because you're a former AUSA. You didn't even tell me where I was mistaken. You simply lumped me up with Nigerians that talk about issues they know nothing about. Great!
Anyways I'm done with this discussion. The courts know best. Peace be onto you.

I did not intend to attack your credibility, and I APOLOGIZE IF THATS HOW YOU TAKE IT. I'm sorry if it came across that way. I usually don't attempt to distinguish between user names and I JUST REPLY BASED ON POSTS targeted towards me. Sometimes I'm nice, sometimes I'm not so nice. Pardon me.
Re: Buratai, 13 Others Taken To U.S. District Court Over Biafra Protests. by jumobi1(m): 6:34pm On Jun 14, 2017
Ispiksdatroof20:


I did not intend to attack your credibility, and I APOLOGIZE IF THATS HOW YOU TAKE IT. I'm sorry if it came across that way. I usually don't attempt to distinguish between user names and I JUST REPLY BASED ON POSTS targeted towards me. Sometimes I'm nice, sometimes I'm not so nice. Pardon me.

I won't pardon you until you hook me up with that $180,000 job. Lolol
It's all good man. At least we agree on the District Court issue. My posts never targeted you unless you are "FiguratvelySpkn"
Re: Buratai, 13 Others Taken To U.S. District Court Over Biafra Protests. by abbey621(m): 6:48pm On Jun 14, 2017
Ispiksdatroof20:


Under normal Circumstances, I shouldn't indulge you because you are obviously trolling, but since Im bored I will.

You truly think State Circuit Courts are higher than Federal District Courts? You also really think Federal District Courts handle "every trashy case thrown at it"? grin grin grin

Believe it or not the U.S District Court is probably the MOST POWERFUL ENTITY IN ALL OF THE UNITED STATES; EVEN MORE POWERFUL THAN THE PRESIDENT. Except the Judges don't have the Nuke codes. If your case is not heard by the U.S District Court, it is not going to be heard by higher Courts like the Court of Appeals or Supreme Court. Do you get it now? So, don't think of "Low" in terms of "Worthless". It is low in terms of "hierarchy" and whatever has been decided in District Court is held in high regards by the higher courts.

I believe your country has a similar Judicial system if I'm not mistaken.

Please stop this! When did I ever mention state circuit courts? When did I ever compare state circuit courts to federal district courts? I think you need a chill pill otherwise you run the risk of making even more mockery of yourself. I have never for once mentioned state courts as I believe we are dealing at the federal level and yes when it comes to the federal system all cases pass through the district courts hence why I called them trashy but take a look at cases making it all the way to the Supreme court, you would realize that they are cases of important magnitude and they all passed through circuit courts otherwise known as court of appeals. I never called the federal district courts worthless, that is you putting words in my mouth and you know it! We are talking of international crimes and punishments, this is why I called them unfit to handle such cases when you compare them to ICC, if you take a look at this forum; you yourself mentioned something similar about them dismissing the case. I hate rambling, I'm not into long pointless dialogues rather if you calmed down and analyzed my point without any malicious intent, you would understand that I'm more right than wrong and that our points our differ slightly....shalom!
Re: Buratai, 13 Others Taken To U.S. District Court Over Biafra Protests. by mbos: 11:08am On May 24, 2019
DanseMacabre:
But I don't understand. Will he be repatriated to face trial, or will the trial be in absentia?

And if he's found guilty, will he be repatriated to serve punishment, or will it be here in Nigeria?

he will be captured like Charles Taylor of Liberia (liberation) and to jail abroad. ICC

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