Sultannayef:
Nigerians are hypocrites. When will the EFCC tell us where Tinubu got his own money? Maybe his father was a billionaire. Nonsense and it's ingredients!

Is the topic about tinubu or patience? This is purely about patience,lets discuss about the latest findngs and stop diverting and shifting goal posts.when tinubu turn come,we face him.

Yesterday Reno Omokri aka Wendell Simlin was talking trash about how Jonathan has never been nabbed for corrupt enrichment. Pray tell, when Jonathan was President of the country and his wife was first lady, are you telling me that Patience was amassing billions of nair in skye bank and property in Abuja, Yenegoa and Portharcourt without the knowledge of the then President? Was Jonathan so clueless, dumb and idiotic that his wife, right under his nose, in the same bedroom, was stashing money and he wasn't aware? The same way Jonathan claimed he wasn't aware Dasuki and Diezani were fritting money away in bullion vans from the CBN and NNPC respectively.
Please lets face reality and the truth, Goodluck Jonathan remains the worst thing that has ever happened to this country since Abacha. That mans stupidity and idiocy is second only to Abachas. The dullest man to ever have been called Head of State of Nigeria. A truly clueless idiot. A mistake of a President

SaulRazor:
When will they discover the over 50 billion worth of hotel belong to Tinubu in the Lekki VI axis of Lagos alone , I am against corruption in all shade but the moment Buhari tibalised and politicised corruption was the the day the war on corruption became a dead joke ...Once again remember that to vote Buhari out is now a CIVIC DUTY..We must start convincing alll our loved ones from this moment so we can deal him disgraceful blow at the polls if he dares to contest ..Also brethren remember to say a small prayer even day against this divisive character called Buhari every day please say a prayer no matter how small against him and see God fight our battles in the coming weeks ..God bless Nigeria and God damage Tyrants

The All Mighty God hear prayers. Since Buhari came into power, I have lost many tenants especially two Bankers and a structural engineers. My farms are emptied etc. Buhari has turned this country updown. He has just sent the military to the east, killed and destroyed properties after he Buhari has refused to give the easterners even an half appointment from the recent NNPC reorganisation. It will only take time, God will answer Buhari. I am senior citizen and have gone to many country and come across many leaders of this world. Let Buhari continue to undermind people. He will be answered very shortly.

limeta:
What of obasanjo ,ibb, abacha,tinubu own loot
Untill you bring this looters to book P Goodluck is a saint
Good bye

We agree that most Politicians are thieves. Even though I don't agree with the selective cleansing of the current Government but the cleansing will definitely start from somewhere. Let APC recover money stolen from PDP, and PDP recover money stolen from APC whenever they win the election too. The method is not the best but half bread is better than puff-puff like they say. With time all our money will be fully recovered. Let them be our whistleblowers.

senatordave1:

Are you now saying that patience did not loot or steal? So efcc is now lying?

bro if u r accusing me of sum thing and u don't have evidence but based on hearsay,what do u call that?

almost 20 houses have been "linked" to this same woman with no single evidence..just hearsays and beer parlour gist...if dere is evidence,get a court permit to arrest the person in question and save us dis back and forth allegations that are neither here nor dere....

believe it or not....no competent judge home or abroad will listen to EFCC based "allegations "....U can quote me any where!!!

[quote author=dane15 post=60413444]

We agree that most Politicians are thieves. Even though I don't agree with the selective cleansing of the current Government but the cleansing will definitely start from somewhere. Let APC recover money stolen from PDP, and PDP recover money stolen from APC whenever they win the election too. The method is not the best but half bread is better than puff-puff like they say. With time all our money will be fully recovered. Let them be our whistleblowers.



Ameachi and fashola and all the northern looters are free to go abi

sekem:


Seriously, you need a brain upgrade

If brain up grade is what you ve i dont need it
Go back and ask for refund

openmine:

bro if u r accusing me of sum thing and u don't have evidence but based on hearsay,what do u call that?

almost 20 houses have been "linked" to this same woman with no single evidence..just hearsays and beer parlour gist...if dere is evidence,get a court permit to arrest the person in question and save us dis back and forth allegations that are neither here nor dere....

believe it or not....no competent judge home or abroad will listen to EFCC based "allegations "....U can quote me any where!!!

Rubbish!!!
When you won't read through the article. The EFCC traced the accounts and the companies that were used to purchase all the property that she built with stolen funds. In the article, the EFCC said the property were seized because there is no way someones whose last employment was a state permanent secretary, could afford to build them.
Please Sir, endeavor to read properly before typing trash.
Thanks

The reason efcc is daft,you waste time n resources chasing 1 individual and you lose in court and blame corruption fighting back.

[quote author=limeta post=60414382][/quote]

You apparently did not read my post well or did not understand me.

Let me summarize:

1. I care less about APC or PDP.

2. All thieves are our enemies whether APC or PDP.

3. They are too much, spread across both parties and too powerful.

4. The only way we can recover our money is by using them to whistleblow themselves.

5. The incumbent goverment's time to vomit whatever they stole will come too. For now let those in the past government be vomiting.

Fools keep discovering. Nigeria and their quack agents.

dane15:


We agree that most Politicians are thieves. Even though I don't agree with the selective cleansing of the current Government but the cleansing will definitely start from somewhere. Let APC recover money stolen from PDP, and PDP recover money stolen from APC whenever they win the election too. The method is not the best but half bread is better than puff-puff like they say. With time all our money will be fully recovered. Let them be our whistleblowers.

the money they've recovered, what have they done with it? It has either been relooted or all of them is propaganda. They're all deceiving the masses. 80percent of APC members we're former PDP members that stole trillions. Saraki that was prosecuted on the pages of newspaper, was he not discharge and acquitted. Nigeria is a joke jare.

Awon ole oloriburuku koni rogba fun iya laya yin.

emmygzy:
the money they've recovered, what have they done with it? It has either been relooted or all of them is propaganda. They're all deceiving the masses. 80percent of APC members we're former PDP members that stole trillions. Saraki that was prosecuted on the pages of newspaper, was he not discharge and acquitted. Nigeria is a joke jare.

We cannot say because of your comment we should leave them to continue stealing.

One day, monkey go go market and he wont.......

SaulRazor:
When will they discover the over 50 billion worth of hotel belong to Tinubu in the Lekki VI axis of Lagos alone , I am against corruption in all shade but the moment Buhari tibalised and politicised corruption was the the day the war on corruption became a dead joke ...Once again remember that to vote Buhari out is now a CIVIC DUTY..We must start convincing alll our loved ones from this moment so we can deal him disgraceful blow at the polls if he dares to contest ..Also brethren remember to say a small prayer even day against this divisive character called Buhari every day please say a prayer no matter how small against him and see God fight our battles in the coming weeks ..God bless Nigeria and God damage Tyrants

this govt won using propaganda
they want to rule by propaganda
each time EFCC's credibility is questioned, within days they discover loots, abandoned cash, bank accounts, estates, hotels and expensive cars home and abroad. but they must be told that we are tired of their antics.
i dont believe anything that comes out of the mouth of the EFCC and her minions

SBG04:

Rubbish!!!
When you won't read through the article. The EFCC traced the accounts and the companies that were used to purchase all the property that she built with stolen funds. In the article, the EFCC said the property were seized because there is no way someones whose last employment was a state permanent secretary, could afford to build them.
Please Sir, endeavor to read properly before typing trash.
Thanks

Sir its also rubbish wen u can not understand simple words like "allegations ".....since they have gotten their evidence like u so blindly claim,why haven't dey arrested Patience?

Please go back and slowly read the parts where simple words like "allegation" and "link" were used and stop trying to humiliate urself....ur likes will crucify an accused even before they are heard in court!!

Since U r now EFCC,go and arrest her nah? smh....

It was alleged that the property was bought through her foundation known as Aribawa Aurera Reach Out Foundation.

The Economic and Financial Crimes Commission has traced a magnificient architectural edifice of an uncompleted eight-storey building in Abuja to be allegedly owned by wife of former president of Nigeria, Patience Jonathan.

“There is a high probability that it could have been built with the proceeds of crime. It is evidently clear that it is a case of money laundering but there is a need to do more investigation.”

Allegation is a statement, made without giving proof, that someone has done something wrong or illegal

Please before we accuse people blindly either due to ethnicity or party affiliations,lets know the use of words in sentimental articles like this...enough said!!

heryurh:


I can't breathe properly agn..
My chest!

Baba God i don dey flash u since, pls biko pick my call

lol you they flash baba and you want make he pick your call, better call ham..

openmine:

Sir its also rubbish wen u can not understand simple words like "allegations ".....since they have gotten their evidence like u so blindly claim,why haven't dey arrested Patience?

Please go back and slowly read the parts where simple words like "allegation" and "link" were used and stop trying to humiliate urself....ur likes will crucify an accused even before they are heard in court!!

Since U r now EFCC,go and arrest her nah? smh....

Dunce!!!
They have secured injunctions asking for Interim forfeiture of all the property. Patience and her lawyer went to court to institute a fundamental human rights suit against the EFCC ostensibly to prevent her arrest and interrogation. The EFCC cannot arrest her but they can investigate her and freeze her assets. Please oga do not speak or post about issues you know nothing of or issues you're just too lazy to understand. It makes you look stupid.
Thanks.

limeta:
What of obasanjo ,ibb, abacha,tinubu own loot
Untill you bring this looters to book P Goodluck is a saint
Good bye

the ineffectual buffoon was so busy looting his OWN that he didnt probe anyone. So JUST because of that ,we should let her go??it drives me CRAZY how Nigerians think. Meanwhile ,pls lets see your bank account, i bet if you have more than 4K and you are here defending BILLION naira looter??You MUST cover your face in shame!!! Like I always ,let the next administration probe this administration. Thats the MOST RESPONSIBLE thing to do. See corruption fighting back VERY HARD!!!!!

SBG04:

Dunce!!!
They have secured injunctions asking for Interim forfeiture of all the property. Patience and her lawyer went to court to institute a fundamental human rights suit against the EFCC ostensibly to prevent her arrest and interrogation. The EFCC cannot arrest her but they can investigate her and freeze her assets. Please oga do not speak or post about issues you know nothing of or issues you're just too lazy to understand. It makes you look stupid.
Thanks.

GBAM!!!

SBG04:

Dunce!!!
They have secured injunctions asking for Interim forfeiture of all the property. Patience and her lawyer went to court to institute a fundamental human rights suit against the EFCC ostensibly to prevent her arrest and interrogation. The EFCC cannot arrest her but they can investigate her and freeze her assets. Please oga do not speak or post about issues you know nothing of or issues you're just too lazy to understand. It makes you look stupid.
Thanks.

Jesus now I know u need help.... u r just lost...lol...go look for d meaning of allegation and stop disgracing ur sorry self....how is it possible dat at ur age u can't google and find out d meaning of "allegation"....

Allegation:Allegation is a statement, made WITHOUT GIVING PROOF, that someone has done something wrong or illegal



...d entire article or report is riddled wit mere"allegations"...Just like most of the shoddy and incomplete cases in court presented by EFCC,they have failed woefully to make any substantial evidence to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that these properties belong to Patience!! Until they do so, they sud keep quiet and get on with deir job rather Dan deceiving and "zombifing" ur likes on this forum with half-baked report every day....


..now I know u not only need a dictionary but u also need to demand for ur university school fees cos dey really did a terrible job on U....

I doubt if U even know d meaning of dat word called "dunce"....Even a dunce can comprehend a simple word like allegation....stop embarrassing ur self on a public forum!!

openmine:

Jesus now I know u need help.... u r just lost...lol...go look for d meaning of allegation and stop disgracing ur sorry self....how is it possible dat at ur age u can't google and find out d meaning of "allegation"....

Allegation:Allegation is a statement, made WITHOUT GIVING PROOF, that someone has done something wrong or illegal



...d entire article or report is riddled wit mere"allegations"...Just like most of the shoddy and incomplete cases in court presented by EFCC,they have failed woefully to make any substantial evidence to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that these properties belong to Patience!! Until they do so, they sud keep quiet and get on with deir job rather Dan deceiving and "zombifing" ur likes on this forum with half-baked report every day....


..now I know u not only need a dictionary but u also need to demand for ur university school fees cos dey really did a terrible job on U....

I doubt if U even know d meaning of dat word called "dunce"....Even a dunce can comprehend a simple word like allegation....stop embarrassing ur self on a public forum!!

Lol. Clearly the most pathetic person I've come across on Nairaland ever! Your ignorance is not the problem, it's the dogmatism. Failure to bow to a superior argument is foolishness and you sir are foolish. You first questioned why Patience Jonathan has not been arrested if the so called allegations, like you called them, were true. I then told you that the lady in question went to court to institute a fundamental human rights suit against the EFCC to preemt her arrest and Interrogation. But because your ignorance is bliss, you reverted to the same "allegations" crap when you had nothing else to say. You're lower than scum. A man who refuses to read between the lines and learn is as good as an idiot. You sir are a certified idiot.
Thank you again!

.

SBG04:

Lol. Clearly the most pathetic person I've come across on Nairaland ever! Your ignorance is not the problem, it's the dogmatism. Failure to bow to a superior argument is foolishness and you sir are foolish. You first questioned why Patience Jonathan has not been arrested if the so called allegations, like you called them, were true. I then told you that the lady in question went to court to institute a fundamental human rights suit against the EFCC to preemt her arrest and Interrogation. But because your ignorance is bliss, you reverted to the same "allegations" crap when you had nothing else to say. You're lower than scum. A man who refuses to read between the lines and learn is as good as an idiot. You sir are a certified idiot.
Thank you again!

Hahahahaha.... ur folly is like peak milk....its in U....I still insist dat u demand for ur entire school fees right from kindergarten cos its obvious they either did a terrible job on U or U made it out of school tru dubious means....If a simple word like "allegation" is still hard for U to comprehend den ur case is really unique....lol....

Pls get it to ur head dat this report is merely an allegation and not proven evidence....wen dere is evidence of such properties being owned by Patience, not even her lawyers will save her....

"A person is presumed innocent until they are proven to be guilty by a court of law"

When they said U sud go to school and learn,U refused....instead U jumped fence to go for party....now see how u r displaying ur uneducated side in a popular public forum....

I won't be surprised if U don't even know the meaning of the word "Pathetic" but just so U know,if U r looking for a "certified idiot" and a pathetic chap,go get a huge Mirror....

No need to thank me....just go get back ur school fees...lol

openmine:


Hahahahaha.... ur folly is like peak milk....its in U....I still insist dat u demand for ur entire school fees right from kindergarten cos its obvious they either did a terrible job on U or U made it out of school tru dubious means....If a simple word like "allegation" is still hard for U to comprehend den ur case is really unique....lol....

Pls get it to ur head dat this report is merely an allegation and not proven evidence....wen dere is evidence of such properties being owned by Patience, not even her lawyers will save her....

"A person is presumed innocent until they are proven to be guilty by a court of law"

When they said U wud go to school and learn,U refused....instead U jumped fence to go for party....now see how u r displaying ur uneducated side in a popular public forum....

I won't be surprised if U don't even know the meaning of the word "Pathetic" but just so U know,if U r looking for a "certified idiot" and a pathetic chap,go get a huge Mirror....

No need to thank me....just go get back ur school fees...lol

Lol. Clearly no point continuing this. Go and enjoy your ignorant bliss. Fool!

SBG04:

Lol. Clearly no point continuing this. Go and enjoy your ignorant bliss. Fool!

See him...after humiliating and disgracing ur self u want to back out like a child who had his "caprison juice" taken away from him....its not too late to get a proper education.... ignorance is not an excuse!!

Chai....lol...I can't believe I wasted my time arguing wit an uneducated chap who only engages in beer parlor gist!!

I beg U go and get ur school fees or go back to a "certified" and "government approved" school!!

Once again....a huge mirror in ur room(dats if U have one) will reveal to U d definition of a "Fool".....

openmine:

See him...after humiliating and disgracing ur self u want to back out like a child who had his "caprison juice" taken away from him....its not too late to get a proper education.... ignorance is not an excuse!!

Chai....lol...I can't believe I wasted my time arguing wit an uneducated chap who only engages in beer parlor gist!!

I beg U go and get ur school fees or go back to a "certified" and "government approved" school!!

Once again....a huge mirror in ur room(dats if U have one) will reveal to U d definition of a "Fool".....

Once again oga before i round off and before you divert from the origin of this argument, Patience Jonathan has a case in court that restrains the EFCC from arresting her! You cannot use the fact that she hasn't been arrested yet to infer that she's doesn't own those properties. Please kindly look for any 20+year old wherever you are to explain it to you since you're too stupid to understand. An idiot who uses non-arrest as a yardstick for innocence. This has been the dumbest argument I've ever engaged anyone in on Nairaland. The person i'm exchanging with is incapable of grasping basic facts. I've just wasted my time online on this stupid fellow

openmine:


Hahahahaha.... ur folly is like peak milk....its in U....I still insist dat u demand for ur entire school fees right from kindergarten cos its obvious they either did a terrible job on U or U made it out of school tru dubious means....If a simple word like "allegation" is still hard for U to comprehend den ur case is really unique....lol....

Pls get it to ur head dat this report is merely an allegation and not proven evidence....wen dere is evidence of such properties being owned by Patience, not even her lawyers will save her....

"A person is presumed innocent until they are proven to be guilty by a court of law"

When they said U sud go to school and learn,U refused....instead U jumped fence to go for party....now see how u r displaying ur uneducated side in a popular public forum....

I won't be surprised if U don't even know the meaning of the word "Pathetic" but just so U know,if U r looking for a "certified idiot" and a pathetic chap,go get a huge Mirror....

No need to thank me....just go get back ur school fees...lol

One last nail on your coffin...
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/239457-court-orders-permanent-forfeiture-diezanis-37-5-million-lagos-property.html
Please open this link and read. A court granted the EFCCs request for diezani's property to be permanently forfeited to the FG because the EFCC succeeded in proving after investigation, that they were acquired with proceeds of crime. Was Diezani ever arrested or interrogated by the EFCC oga? Is she not currently in London on medical vacation? Did the court ask the EFCC to prove that diezani was guilty of anything before seizing her property?
In the same vein the EFCC has applied for temporary forfeiture of Patience Jonathan's property. If nobody turns up in court to state why the property should not be forfeited to the government, the court will generously forfeit the property to the FG. And there is nothing anybody, not even you with your stupid ranting of "allegation" or whatever, can do.
Hope i've been able to explain to your stupid self, a few basic points about law.
You are clearly the most foolish person i've ever argued with on nairaland. I'm sure even after this brief lecture you'll still come back with yet more stupid and foolish things to say. I hope i'm not tempted to reply your foolishness again.
Rest in Peace Idiot!!!

SBG04:

Once again oga before i round off and before you divert from the origin of this argument, Patience Jonathan has a case in court that restrains the EFCC from arresting her! You cannot use the fact that she hasn't been arrested yet to infer that she's doesn't own those properties. Please kindly look for any 20+year old wherever you are to explain it to you since you're too stupid to understand. An idiot who uses non-arrest as a yardstick for innocence. This has been the dumbest argument I've ever engaged anyone in on Nairaland. The person i'm exchanging with is incapable of grasping basic facts. I've just wasted my time online on this stupid fellow

just to show dat u r an epitome of wat u r using to insult people,I explicitly said dat EFCC must get proven evidence to arrest any one rather Dan depending on "hearsay" or "allegations"....that was the basis of my argument and I remember that I was exchanging views with a particular person on dis forum but U just jumped into and argument dat U knew absolutely nothing about to display ur ignorance and zombified mindset to attack my views....

I thought U needed a change of school to redefine ur untrained mind,I never knew Ur case is beyond remedy....

For d fact that u r still arguing based on an earlier injunction btw patience and EFCC that has nothing to do with dis report confirms ur warped thinking!!

Hahahahaha....U call dis report "facts"?
Pls what are facts?
So u calk this junk of a report that has no single iota of evidence facts?
I don't think U have graduated from secondary school cos such blunder can not be made by a pupil in a primary school!!

Stop disgracing urself....lol

SBG04:


Please open this link and read. A court granted the EFCCs request for diezani's property to be permanently forfeited to the FG because the EFCC succeeded in proving after investigation, that they were acquired with proceeds...Did the court ask the EFCC to prove that diezani was guilty of anything before seizing her property?

Ohh God I can't stop laughing....Mr law....look at d bolded statement....Hahahahaha
Hahahahaha even ur link and statement about d forfeiture of diezani's property is self-inflicting....its just another proof that u don't read reports before posting them....and another shocking and damning reason why ur thinking ability is questionable!!
That u can't distinguish btw proof and allegation is a sorry testament of how terrible ur schooling has failed U....go back and collect ur school fee Abeg...lol

SBG04:

In the same vein the EFCC has applied for temporary forfeiture of Patience Jonathan's property. If nobody turns up in court to state why the property should not be forfeited to the government, the court will generously forfeit the property to the FG!!

Jesus wept....EFCC cannot request for a permanent or temporary seizure of property from the court without proof or evidence...d reason why it was successful with dat of diezani was because they had "substantial proof" hence they were successful with the seizure....

This report which is a bone of contention is based on d fact dat its still an "allegation"....in oda words,no proof yet...just mere speculation and no court will give a warrant of arrest or seizure of property without damning evidence..

And to conclude,no court can hold on to any property when no evidence of crime has been brought b4 it....its like arresting and detaining an individual without proof of any wrongdoing....gush I can't believe am doing dis....lol

Ohh God is dis wat ur school taught U or are u trying to cover up ur deficiencies?

openmine:

Ohh God I can't stop laughing....Mr law....look at d bolded statement....Hahahahaha
Hahahahaha even ur link and statement about d forfeiture of diezani's property is self-inflicting....its just another proof that u don't read reports before posting them....and another shocking and damning reason why ur thinking ability is questionable!!
That u can't distinguish btw proof and allegation is a sorry testament of how terrible ur schooling has failed U....go back and collect ur school fee Abeg...lol




Jesus wept....EFCC cannot request for a permanent or temporary seizure of property from the court without proof or evidence...d reason why it was successful with dat of diezani was because they had "substantial proof" hence they were successful with the seizure....

This report which is a bone of contention is based on d fact dat its still an "allegation"....in oda words,no proof yet...just mere speculation and no court will give a warrant of arrest or seizure of property without damning evidence..

And to conclude,no court can hold on to any property when no evidence of crime has been brought b4 it....its like arresting and detaining an individual without proof of any wrongdoing....gush I can't believe am doing dis....lol

Ohh God is dis wat ur school taught U or are u trying to cover up ur deficiencies?

"The document read in part, “In view of the foregoing, I request for an interim forfeiture order on the two properties amongst others linked to the suspect and believed to have been acquired from the proceeds of crime"
Copied and pasted from the article on the front page.



Your father is a fool!!!
Ccommon sense you don't have. Simple English you don't understand. If the EFCC finds any property or bank account which it suspects was obtained from proceeds of crime, the EFCC can approach any court with competent jurisdiction to seek interim and final forfeiture of the property. Whoever is suspected of being the owner will then have to go to the Court and explain to it why the property should not be forfeited to the government. The EFCC does not need to wait for the person to be convicted of anything before seizing their property. Diezanis properties were suspected to be proceeds of crime. The EFCC did not wait to "prove the allegations" to anybody! The EFCC approached the court to seek interim forfeiture pending when anyone approached to court to prove why the property should not be forfeited to the government. Nobody showed up hence her property was handed over to the FG. The money that was found in those apartments in Lekki was suspected to be proceeds of crime and was taken to court and an interim forfeiture order was obtained pending the time someone showed up to state why the money should not be given to the government. Nobody showed up hence the money was forfeited to the FG. No arrest was made, and none has been made till date but the money in question now belongs to the FG. Similarly the EFCC has approached the court to seek temporary forfeiture of Patience Jonathans property. If after the temporary forfeiture order is obtained, she goes to the court and explains why the forfeiture order should not be granted and how she got the money to buy the property, the court may or may not find merit in her position and grant or not grant the forfeiture order. But seeing as there is no logical explanation as to how a State permanent secretary acquired all that property, it is most likely that Patience Jonathan will not turn up in court for the forfeiture hearing and the property in question will be seized by the FG.
I have painstakenly explained the law to your foolish self here. If after this you still find reason to argue, then your mother too must be a fool. Now I'm assuming your foolishness is just on your father's side. Please endeavour to prove me wrong.
Thank you!