Op, in this case you don't have to outcast the view emanating from religion and tradition. Marriage is a union instituted either by tradition or religion guidelines therefore we must view your query from the two points and other(s) if any.
Man is ordained to be the head of family, the wealth of a woman can never turn her to man, remember marriage is not all about the financial aspect of it, it has more like respect and control which is an embodiment to man.

tintingz:
Hello folks.

I want to know if the husband still earn/deserve the position of "head of the house" if the wife is the breadwinner?

Is the "head of the house" earned or a birth right for men?

I understand some men lost their job and their wife took/take up the responsibilities but what happens when the wife is the one keep doing it for years, no positive move from the husband?

* I'm not a religious person nor traditional person, so don't use your religious/traditional view as the ultimate/superior answer, just comment your views on this.

yes! but better to divorce such woman or else you will be miserable with her.

To start with, husband/wife/maeiage/home matters can't be complete without going religious.
Simply put, that your hair full and rough doesn't mean you can wear the cap on the knee. All u have to do is have a nice hair-cut to wear the cap or manage the cap on ur hairy-bushy hair

tintingz:
Hello folks.

I want to know if the husband still earn/deserve the position of "head of the house" if the wife is the breadwinner?

Is the "head of the house" earned or a birth right for men?

I understand some men lost their job and their wife took/take up the responsibilities but what happens when the wife is the one keep doing it for years, no positive move from the husband?

* I'm not a religious person nor traditional person, so don't use your religious/traditional view as the ultimate/superior answer, just comment your views on this.

tintingz:
Erm, oga did you read where I said I'm not religious?

Just give a rational contribution to the OP question and not some archaic divine words.

If a woman want to be the head of the family she should take the tittle ::

I think you set off on the wrong foot if you think head of household depends on financial income. If you are earning N100K/month and your wife N90K.... does that make you head of household? If yes... what happens if the wife is promoted and her salary is raised to N105k?...does she then "call the shots"?
The man is supposed to be the head of household regardless..... and that in my opinion has to do with a lot more than income...regardless who earns more...he is supposed to be the one to lead his family through this life.... ensure that they have food, clothing and shelter.... protected from human predators....and be a role model to his children. Wife earning more money.... becomes head of household... bandits about to break in.... should she hide the husband and kids inside her wrapper and fight them off?...as head of household?

loswhite:
so if we don't use religious view or traditional view to answer your foolish question...please state the view you want us to use

Logic is better.

The truth is on paper the man is supposed to be the Head. but when he is financially handicapped leaving his responsibilities to his wife Reality takes away that head and confines it to the woman.

So on paper (Theory) = yes
Reality (practical) = No

Nop

kimbraa:
this

benita27? Lol I honestly didn't expect this kinda piece from u

Originalsly:
I think you set off on the wrong foot if you think head of household depends on financial income. If you are earning N100K/month and your wife N90K.... does that make you head of household? If yes... what happens if the wife is promoted and her salary is raised to N105k?...does she then "call the shots"?
The man is supposed to be the head of household regardless..... and that in my opinion has to do with a lot more than income...regardless who earns more...he is supposed to be the one to lead his family through this life.... ensure that they have food, clothing and shelter.... protected from human predators....and be a role model to his children. Wife earning more money.... becomes head of household... bandits about to break in.... should she hide the husband and kids inside her wrapper and fight them off?...as head of household?

The question doesn't say if the man earns less, he asked if the man is not earning stall and the woman is the one bringing all the money, can she be called the breadwinner.

you are confusing yourself. No matter how small a man earns, he will always be the head of the house. Who says ones wife cannot be richer after marriage?

The crux of the matter lies if he doesn't earn " shi-shi"

Even the atheist turns to religion when the issue of man and wife is mentioned. I like the Ops question- talk and comment from a logical view and not because the bible told you or they (the society and your parents) told you. My own question: is there suppose to be anything like "head" or "tail" logically?. What is the duty of a man and woman?. What did the always quoted bible say about a man who can't provide for his family?

tintingz:
Why?, give your reason

Man is the head of the family mean y women are from our ribs. to be a head of a family is by nature no matter d problem the man is facing, even among animals they have lead or head

anybody could be the breadwinner of the house/Family it was never a title for the male folks alone.. the definition of "breadwinner" is that simple "a member of a family whose wages supply its livelihood" so to the OP anybody that caters for the livelihood of a family at any point in time is a BREADWINNER.

tintingz:
This is just an analogy, madam.

From which dictionary? is it birth right?

Sorry, i dont believe in this.

Actually, your are the one doing the struggling day and night.

You were taught? This shows it is just a societal constructed.

This is normal, he will do same for you.

Ofcos it will, it is love but what happens if he does not show any positive move?

Good


Alright

Oga are u actually seeking people's opinion or being pigheaded Coz your defensive mechanism just speaks too much volume

coolcatty:


Oga... U need to learn to know the difference between '' angry and disgruntled ''.... That's the first step... Then we can discuss... You are just running round in circles and it's mentally draining...... You believe tontoh because she showed u her bruises but u forgot the same tonto posted pictures of cars, diamonds, phones etc gifted to her by the same husband she has been denigrating...... You tend to believe an emotionally imbalanced woman..... It's ur call.

Lol, go back and read my post and stop misquoting.

Flame4chi:
anybody could be the breadwinner of the house/Family it was never a title for the male folks alone.. the definition of "breadwinner" is that simple "a member of a family whose wages supply its livelihood" so to the OP anybody that caters for the livelihood of a family at any point in time is a BREADWINNER.

Are you a christain? If yes, what did the bible say about a man who can't provide for his family.

Most men only remember the bible when they want to talk about " wives submit to your husband".

I know you will accept the bible once it will favour you.

when you come from a Christian home, a man will always be the head

when you work with "tradition", a man will always be the head

when you guys are neutral, no one is head

shikena, it all depends on you guys

God has made a woman to be under a man and no religious group has so far been against this.

So even if the man is a drunkard, lunatic and not working, that respect should be accorded to him.

A woman needs her husband's nod before taking certain decisions no matter how rich she is. If she ain't married, that's a different case.

LOL.
A man is the head of the home. Get a good head and stop dragging power and authority with your husband.

...but if the couple involved, decides to make the woman the head, good for them.

ProElite:
To start with, husband/wife/maeiage/home matters can't be complete without going religious.
Simply put, that your hair full and rough doesn't mean you can wear the cap on the knee. All u have to do is have a nice hair-cut to wear the cap or manage the cap on ur hairy-bushy hair

Why must we go religious? Not everyone is religious so let just make it neutral.

CaptainJeffry:
God has made a woman to be under a man and no religious group has so far been against this.

So even if the man is a drunkard, lunatic and not working, that respect should be accorded to him.

A woman needs her husband's nod before taking certain decisions no matter how rich she is. If she ain't married, that's a different case.

hahhahahhaha, I go laugh tire today.
This sounds like the words of a selective religious man.
If the woman is a prostitute hope she will still be the wife no matter what?, since the man can be a drunkard and still the head.

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U should know the kinda person she is already. Those that love to usurp the natural order for their own selfish interests and would make heavens fall to defemd such .

Sounds more like a woman claiming to be a man on a faceless forum or a man indoctrinated from a young age perhaps due to reality in his home and milieu while growing up.

alexialin:






Well buhari is NOT my husband. And the role of buhari to this country is different from the role of my husband at home.

U can't compare politics or duties in the workplace to duties at home.

A man has always been the head irrespective of whether he has money or not.
Anybody that's rich be it man or woman is not by our power at all.
It's either by the grace of God or by the grace of the devil.

So if I am successful more than my husband? It's not because I have two heads and he has one head, neither is it because am the only one who knows how to work smart and see results. Everything in this life is by backed up by Grace . And not only by Individual powers.

Anyways av been taught from my teenage years, a Man is always the head of the home. While the wife is his support system.

I will still care ,love and respect him, knowing fully well he will become successful once again, and someday.

If my husband and kids are happy. I am happy and my business will flourish.
But if my husband is not happy but depressed due to my actions towards him cause he has no money for nw, it will affect my business and state of mind.

And that's why am very careful not to make a mistake of marrying a drama king, or a sadist.
Such kind of men can't even date, how much more settle down with.


So for me o, I don't know of other women out there.

My husband remains the head of our home through thick or thin, in richness or in poverty, sickness and in good health. He's the head.

Shikena.

Thank u ma God bless ur home.

Jsaviour:
Even the atheist turns to religion when the issue of man and wife is mentioned. I like the Ops question- talk and comment from a logical view and not because the bible told you or they (the society and your parents) told you. My own question: is there suppose to be anything like "head" or "tail" logically?. What is the duty of a man and woman?. What did the always quoted bible say about a man eho can't provide for his family?

Thank you jare.

Gustavo404:
benita27? Lol I honestly didn't expect this kinda piece from u

Why? Are you shocked?. Men should marry women who're resourceful so that if anything happens with their finances in the future they would have someone who they'd look up to handle the bills while they're incapacitated. That doesn't make the woman the head 'cause God already placed the man as the head of the home which can't change irrespective of a man's condition.

I'm not in the school of thought that if a woman pays bills then she's the head. She has to submit to her husband being the head without loosing her identity.

Jsaviour:


Are you a christain? If yes, what did the bible say about a man who can't provide for his family.

Most men only remember the bible when they want to talk about " wives submit to your husband".

I know you will accept the bible once it will favour you.

yes I am a christian.. The Bible Said "anyone" not "any man" that passage shouldn't be use in this context.

Religion is really the opium of the masses, many people here can't contribute rationally without cheeping their religious sentiments.

I knew this from the onset.

lilmax:
when you come from a Christian home, a man will always be the head

when you work with "tradition", a man will always be the head

when you guys are neutral, no one is head

shikena, it all depends on you guys

I agree, it depends on the people involved, the problem comes when people refuse to leave it up to the people involved to choose what works best for them and starts forcing them to choose the man as the head of the home simply because of religion or tradition which is not what the couple want.

As far as I'm concerned, the neutral home where the man and woman work together and no one is ruled is best, everyone is equal,

Everyone should do what works for them and also find a partner who agrees with their views and stop trying to impose their views on others.

So therefore if a woman doesn't believe that a man should be the head of the home, if a woman doesn't believe that there should even be a head of the home, it should be respected instead of people trying to change her views becuasw of religion or whatever,

Cc tintingz

tintingz:
Religion is really the opium of the masses, many people here can't contribute rationally without cheeping their religious sentiments.

I knew this from the onset.

Lmao

Religion is a normal flora of most Nigerians

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It appears you're not actually seeking an opinion here but rather trying to defend your own.

How can buhari not do his responsibility and still be responsible in character? If buhari was not responsible in character but stole billions of dollars to carry out his responsibility as president would you vote him in next election? [why not mama peace be the leader of the house if Jonathan fail to take care of his responsibilities in his house as he failed 2017 election ]

kimbraa:
Why? Are you shocked?. Men should marry women who're resourceful so that if anything happens with their finances in the future they would have someone who they'd look up to handle the bills while they're incapacitated. That doesn't make the woman the head 'cause God already placed the man as the head of the home which can't change irrespective of a man's condition.

I'm not in the school of thought that if a woman pays bills then she's the head. She has to submit to her husband being the head without loosing her identity.

Too much common sense embedded in u. An open cheque or a trip to Dubai, ma'am? Even if it's a faceless forum u earned my respect today, ma'am. ✊�