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Re: The Middle Path by Apogee14: 10:27am On Oct 12, 2017
numericalsage:
every number has an influence in u.
Ur birth number, and ur name number can be used to determine ur fate on a particular numerical date. I don't need to know ur Bvn number because it is randomly generated. Some numbers stick with u while some do not. Eg ur birth date will always be d same bit ur house address might not always be the same.
while your house address may not always be the same however you are put into that house number to correspond with your purpose in life at that time. when that purpose is fulfilled the forces make you move to another house number that matches your purpose. we are pawns in a numbers controlled matrix. another question for you seeing as you are a numerical sage. do you know how the numbers were put together ? like do you know what components were put together to come up with the numbers ? like for example the number 4 is a cross and a 315 degrees diagonal line. do you know the esoteric ingredients that went into creating each number and why these ingredients were put together ?
Re: The Middle Path by lekkie073(m): 10:43am On Oct 12, 2017
Apogee14:
while your house address may not always be the same however you are put into that house number to correspond with your purpose in life at that time. when that purpose is fulfilled the forces make you move to another house number that matches your purpose. we are pawns in a numbers controlled matrix. another question for you seeing as you are a numerical sage. do you know how the numbers were put together ? like do you know what components were put together to come up with the numbers ? like for example the number 4 is a cross and a 315 degrees diagonal line. do you know the esoteric ingredients that went into creating each number and why these ingredients were put together ?
the main root esoteric ingredients that make up the numbers r gotten thru the sepher yetzirah, the book of formation.
Re: The Middle Path by Apogee14: 10:55am On Oct 12, 2017
lekkie073:
the main root esoteric ingredients that make up the numbers r gotten thru the sepher yetzirah, the book of formation.
if this book is in the public domain then i doubt this is the book. i believe the true ingredients are locked in some secret vaults in the vatican only to be accessed by higher degree freemasons. however these secrets are in electromagnetic frequencies in the atmosphere. if you can attain the highest ever frequency of vibration ( the Jesus frequency ) you can sync in and access those records. These records are not for the peons of society and as such will not be available to the public. So it cant be the sepher yetzirah
Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 11:10am On Oct 12, 2017
Dcholeric:

I thought with AP I should be able to get questions on spirituality answered and therefore find the right way to spirituality.
if not, ...how does one locate the right path to spirituality?

Spirituality is a path and not a destination and once embarked upon no two person’s paths are replicated, you cannot say for certain where you will end up. Spirituality is about defining your position in the great scheme of things, it is about making a stand in the universe. It is a self-introspection it brings about a change in consciousness where you decide whether to persist with the status quo or to strike out on your own, you become a rebel to all orthodoxy, in all verity it is not for everyone.

You wrote that you believe in Jesus and I assume that you accept the salvific message therefore it might perhaps be best that you stick with what you are comfortable with and live your life as best as can be, else your quest for spirituality is bound to force you to confront the very basis of your beliefs, the question is, are you truly ready for that? The quest for spirituality is a yearning for enlightenment and there is no enlightenment that is to be found in a religion whose starting premise is universal guilt.

The path to enlightenment begins with knowledge, open your mind, broaden your horizons read other holy books, get different perspectives, study the Baghavad Gita, the Vedanta, read the exploits of Siddhartha, read the writings of Hermes Trismegistus, study the classics, knowledge is power. A very wise man once wrote that all of man’s problems are caused because he will not spend five minutes a day to meditate properly. Learn a good meditation tecnhique and then ponder on what you read, learn to live within the moment as opposed to allowing the moments to pass by and you will find your own path.

Do not waste time with psychic phenomena, these are side-issues that will stunt your spiritual growth, you should look first for a good spiritual foundation then you will find that attributes like AP will develop almost naturally once you have begun to align yourself with the universal Divine presence. Good luck.

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Re: The Middle Path by lekkie073(m): 11:11am On Oct 12, 2017
Apogee14:
if this book is in the public domain then i doubt this is the book. i believe the true ingredients are locked in some secret vaults in the vatican only to be accessed by higher degree freemasons. however these secrets are in electromagnetic frequencies in the atmosphere. if you can attain the highest ever frequency of vibration ( the Jesus frequency ) you can sync in and access those records. These records are not for the peons of society and as such will not be available to the public. So it cant be the sepher yetzirah
everything is available to the public but not everyone can attune to it. that the secrets r in the electromagnetic frequencies shows that it is available to the public because the electromagnetic field is actually available to the public, but only those who can attune to it(initiates and adepts in esoteric processes) have the capacity to actually get it.
what I am saying in essence is that nothing is entirely hidden. if u follow the light, u will get it.
d sepher yetzirah can be gotten online but it won't mean a dime to someone who is not conversant with occultic and esoteric machinations

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Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 11:17am On Oct 12, 2017
Sarassin:
Do not waste time with psychic phenomena, these are side-issues that will stunt your spiritual growth, you should look first for a good spiritual foundation then you will find that attributes like AP will develop almost naturally once you have begun to align yourself with the universal Divine presence. Good luck.
this answer is sublime. there is much truth and wisdom therein.

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Re: The Middle Path by Apogee14: 11:17am On Oct 12, 2017
lekkie073:
everything is available to the public but not everyone can attune to it. that the secrets r in the electromagnetic frequencies shows that it is available to the public because the electromagnetic field is actually available to the public, but only those who can attune to it(initiates and adepts in esoteric processes) have the capacity to actually get it.
what I am saying in essence is that nothing is entirely hidden. if u follow the light, u will get it.
d sepher yetzirah can be gotten online but it won't mean a dime to someone who is not conversant with occultic and esoteric machinations
you were doing good until you added that last sentence lol. remove the last sentence and you have a good post. any book you can get online will not contain the correct secrets. everything is reversed in books they make available to the public. everything is upside down to the peons. they purposely do it like that to keep the masses in the dark. so if the sepher yetzirah is available to the masses ? you can bet all the information in it is wrong on purpose lol
Re: The Middle Path by lekkie073(m): 11:30am On Oct 12, 2017
Apogee14:
you were doing good until you added that last sentence lol. remove the last sentence and you have a good post. any book you can get online will not contain the correct secrets. everything is reversed in books they make available to the public. everything is upside down to the peons. they purposely do it like that to keep the masses in the dark. so if the sepher yetzirah is available to the masses ? you can bet all the information in it is wrong on purpose lol
the grimoire that has been in existence for years and the one u will download online r the same texts. bit if u r not attuned to the message, downloading it is useless.

just the same way if u attuned to listening to FM, buying a FM radio will be useless.

bro, don't get worked up on dis. I might not respond on dis particular issue again.

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Re: The Middle Path by numericalsage: 11:39am On Oct 12, 2017
Apogee14, I will advice that you take your time to study bit by bit. As someone pointed out, you seem to study things abstractly. And the flaw there is that u will have just vague ideas and nothing else. Nothing is hidden under the sun. In as much as one person has access to it, then anyone can also have access to it.
Or you want me to believe all you have learnt on spirituality is gotten from your personal intuition?
Re: The Middle Path by Apogee14: 11:40am On Oct 12, 2017
lekkie073:
the grimoire that has been in existence for years and the one u will download online r the same texts. bit if u r not attuned to the message, downloading it is useless.

just the same way if u attuned to listening to FM, buying a FM radio will be useless.

bro, don't get worked up on dis. I might not respond on dis particular issue again.
as a connoisseur of many esoteric texts I am emphatically telling you that anything made available to the public is reversed on purpose. this matrix of ours is controlled by illuminated beings whose powers and control depend on keeping everyone in the dark. these entities control all the banks, all the publishing houses for books, all the media. anything that is released into this world goes through them. nobody will release any information to the public that is correct without facing some dire consequences. for example do you know several people have come up with ways to power cars with water but this information is kept under wraps because with oil the world can be controlled. so trust me, as a connoisseur of many elaborate esoteric texts - as I have advanced and started pulling out information from the frequencies in the atmosphere and have started writing my own texts, i have come to find out that all the esoteric texts in the public domain are purposely reversed and wrong.
Re: The Middle Path by Apogee14: 11:42am On Oct 12, 2017
numericalsage:
Apogee14, I will advice that you take your time to study bit by bit. As someone pointed out, you seem to study things abstractly. And the flaw there is that u will have just vague ideas and nothing else. Nothing is hidden under the sun. In as much as one person has access to it, then anyone can also have access to it.
Or you want me to believe all you have learnt on spirituality is gotten from your personal intuition?
any genuine knowledge of spirituality is gotten from within and is kept within. as the wise say ' those who know dont talk, and those who talk dont know. meaning anything that is written ? is wrong.
Re: The Middle Path by geezyk(m): 11:44am On Oct 12, 2017
numericalsage:
ur number stands in symbolism for the planet of Jupiter, which plays an important role in astrology and numerology. U r decidedly ambitious, aiming to rise to the top of the world. U have an excellent attitude to executing commands , love orderliness and very disciplined. Ppl dat share ur birth number seem to do well in positions of command and authority like the military. Being someone that is conscientious when on duty, u will excel in posts that require trust and responsibility.
Though u have the tendency to be dictatorial, u might make more enemies than friends. U r proud cool
And u don't like to be restrained.

Should I proceed?
Fire on..
Re: The Middle Path by lekkie073(m): 11:54am On Oct 12, 2017
Apogee14:
as a connoisseur of many esoteric texts I am emphatically telling you that anything made available to the public is reversed on purpose. this matrix of ours is controlled by illuminated beings whose powers and control depend on keeping everyone in the dark. these entities control all the banks, all the publishing houses for books, all the media. anything that is released into this world goes through them. nobody will release any information to the public that is correct without facing some dire consequences. for example do you know several people have come up with ways to power cars with water but this information is kept under wraps because with oil the world can be controlled. so trust me, as a connoisseur of many elaborate esoteric texts - as I have advanced and started pulling out information from the frequencies in the atmosphere and have started writing my own texts, i have come to find out that all the esoteric texts in the public domain are purposely reversed and wrong.
ok let's wait till when u have ur own texts then. and when ur texts r ready, would u purposely reverse it too ?

u r one funny guy grin
Re: The Middle Path by Apogee14: 11:56am On Oct 12, 2017
lekkie073:
ok let's wait till when u have ur own texts then. and when ur texts r ready, would u purposely reverse it too ?

u r one funny guy grin
lol i dont write my own texts to sell them. it is not for the public. it is for me. those who know dont tell and those who tell dont know * wink *
Re: The Middle Path by numericalsage: 11:59am On Oct 12, 2017
geezyk:
Fire on..
the next and final reading will involve u sending me the name ur r most often called.
It may not be your biological name. Look at yourself, what do most people u relate with call u.
Send it to numericalsage@gmail.com
Re: The Middle Path by lekkie073(m): 12:03pm On Oct 12, 2017
Apogee14:
lol i dont write my own texts to sell them. it is not for the public. it is for me. those who know dont tell and those who tell dont know * wink *
so what's the essence of documenting the texts? to bury it in the ground?
Re: The Middle Path by Apogee14: 12:08pm On Oct 12, 2017
lekkie073:
so what's the essence of documenting the texts? to bury it in the ground?
the essence of documenting the text is so that when the powers start to dim and I cant access those frequencies like I used to, I would have written down all the information I need. because as you continue to live and your transgressions rise, your powers start to dim. What goes up must come down. universal law. currently i have written 18 books for myself.
Re: The Middle Path by lekkie073(m): 12:19pm On Oct 12, 2017
Apogee14:
the essence of documenting the text is so that when the powers start to dim and I cant access those frequencies like I used to, I would have written down all the information I need. because as you continue to live and your transgressions rise, your powers start to dim. What goes up must come down. universal law. currently i have written 18 books for myself.
so when u die, who inherits d books? or u would move with it?
Re: The Middle Path by Apogee14: 12:23pm On Oct 12, 2017
lekkie073:
so when u die, who inherits d books? or u would move with it?
i would burn it all. it burns with me. ashes to ashes and dust to dust. those who know dont tell and those who tell dont know
Re: The Middle Path by lekkie073(m): 12:32pm On Oct 12, 2017
Apogee14:
i would burn it all. it burns with me. ashes to ashes and dust to dust. those who know dont tell and those who tell dont know
my advice to u. find ur way out of the maze. u seem not to know ur way out cool

goodluck
Re: The Middle Path by Apogee14: 12:36pm On Oct 12, 2017
lekkie073:
my advice to u. find ur way out of the maze. u seem not to know ur way out cool

goodluck
thats the problem. there is no getting out of the maze. you only get out when you die. while you are alive you can be gifted to understand how it works if you get illuminated. but nobody gets out of it. so as you can see ? you are clueless about the whole thing.
Re: The Middle Path by iamnlia(m): 1:16pm On Oct 12, 2017
numericalsage:
u tend to be aggressive in most things u do. While u might have had difficult times growing up, in the end success comes by your grit, strong will and destination. In character, u r prone to be hasty in temper, impulsive and independent. U also have that knack to be ur own boss. U r also prone to edperienceany quarels and strife with ur relations and it may transfer into the family u marry. U r seen to strongle resent criticism because u have a good opinion of yourself. While u like to be in control within an organization, u may tend to stand aside and watch things go to pieces if u r not given the chance to be in control.

Please take care as u prone to accidents from fire and explosion.

Should I proceed?
Please do.
Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 1:26pm On Oct 12, 2017
Apogee14:
as a connoisseur of many esoteric texts I am emphatically telling you that anything made available to the public is reversed on purpose. this matrix of ours is controlled by illuminated beings whose powers and control depend on keeping everyone in the dark. these entities control all the banks, all the publishing houses for books, all the media. anything that is released into this world goes through them. nobody will release any information to the public that is correct without facing some dire consequences. for example do you know several people have come up with ways to power cars with water but this information is kept under wraps because with oil the world can be controlled. so trust me, as a connoisseur of many elaborate esoteric texts - as I have advanced and started pulling out information from the frequencies in the atmosphere and have started writing my own texts, i have come to find out that all the esoteric texts in the public domain are purposely reversed and wrong.

I find this statement of yours that all esoteric texts available to the public are reversed to be rather curious. You do not say what form this reversal takes. To be sure, it is true that in many grimoires, and ancient writings crucial steps within certain rituals were redacted or obscured, principally to protect the uninitiated from harm, some texts being so powerful that merely reading them to one’s self can have profound effects. But even so your assertion that all esoteric texts in the public domain are reversed is in my view simply not rooted in fact.

There are priceless esoteric volumes available in the great libraries of the world, you will find many such texts available at the US library of congress for instance in their original forms, go to libraries in Geneva, London or in fact all over the western world and you will find researchers and practitioners delving into the mysteries of original esoteric texts. Can one possibly read the works of the likes of Agrippa, John Dee, or study the esoteric writings of Johann Reuchlin in 'De Arte Cabbalistica' or the fully extant works of Johannes Trimethius and still state that these are all reversed?
Re: The Middle Path by iamnlia(m): 1:31pm On Oct 12, 2017
Mr Sarassin, can you recommend texts for a beginner like me?
Thanks

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Re: The Middle Path by Apogee14: 1:43pm On Oct 12, 2017
Sarassin:


I find this statement of yours that all esoteric texts available to the public are reversed to be rather curious. You do not say what form this reversal takes. To be sure, it is true that in many grimoires, and ancient writings crucial steps within certain rituals were redacted or obscured, principally to protect the uninitiated from harm, some texts being so powerful that merely reading them to one’s self can have profound effects. But even so your assertion that all esoteric texts in the public domain are reversed is in my view simply not rooted in fact.

There are priceless esoteric volumes available in the great libraries of the world, you will find many such texts available at the US library of congress for instance in their original forms, go to libraries in Geneva, London or in fact all over the western world and you will find researchers and practitioners delving into the mysteries of original esoteric texts. Can one possibly read the works of the likes of Agrippa, John Dee, or study the esoteric writings of Johann Reuchlin in 'De Arte Cabbalistica' or the fully extant works of Johannes Trimethius and still state that these are all reversed?
brother, you need to understand that you exist in a concocted close knit matrix and this has been the case forever. a few are uplifted into the light so as to guide the peons and amongst the illuminated the wisdom is born and dies with. the wisdom is not to be shared. people get killed trying to share wisdom. any wisdom that is shared is purposely rewired and then disseminated to the masses who also are craving some form of spirituality. This has been the case right from ancient kemet when for example the priests had a different understanding of something while what they tell the masses is something different. nothing new under the sun. and honestly I can see why its like that because its like casting pearls before swines. its ECHOED in the biblical texts when they said - WHY DO YOU SPEAK TO THESE PEONS IN PARABLES ? - and he said to them it is not given to THEM to understand the secrets of the world. nothing new under the sun bro. no esoteric knowledge of value or worth is shared in public texts. those who know dont tell and those who tell dont know.
Re: The Middle Path by lekkie073(m): 2:02pm On Oct 12, 2017
Apogee14:
brother, you need to understand that you exist in a concocted close knit matrix and this has been the case forever. a few are uplifted into the light so as to guide the peons and amongst the illuminated the wisdom is born and dies with. the wisdom is not to be shared. people get killed trying to share wisdom. any wisdom that is shared is purposely rewired and then disseminated to the masses who also are craving some form of spirituality. This has been the case right from ancient kemet when for example the priests had a different understanding of something while what they tell the masses is something different. nothing new under the sun. and honestly I can see why its like that because its like casting pearls before swines. its ECHOED in the biblical texts when they said - WHY DO YOU SPEAK TO THESE PEONS IN PARABLES ? - and he said to them it is not given to THEM to understand the secrets of the world. nothing new under the sun bro. no esoteric knowledge of value or worth is shared in public texts. those who know dont tell and those who tell dont know.
brother we have heard u sir.
let's make do with what we have while waiting for ur own textbook to come out. or r we suppose to throw away all texts because a certain Plato wannabe said so
Re: The Middle Path by Apogee14: 2:11pm On Oct 12, 2017
lekkie073:
brother we have heard u sir.
let's make do with what we have while waiting for ur own textbook to come out. or r we suppose to throw away all texts because a certain Plato wannabe said so
lol i was only replying to Sarrasin's post. I thought it would be quite rude to ignore it. As for throwing away all the texts ? i wouldnt suggest you do because even in the corrupted versions there is a bit of enlightenment to be had from it. nothing that would change your life, but enough to sharpen your spiritual wit
Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 2:18pm On Oct 12, 2017
Apogee14:
brother, you need to understand that you exist in a concocted close knit matrix and this has been the case forever. a few are uplifted into the light so as to guide the peons and amongst the illuminated the wisdom is born and dies with. the wisdom is not to be shared. people get killed trying to share wisdom. any wisdom that is shared is purposely rewired and then disseminated to the masses who also are craving some form of spirituality. This has been the case right from ancient kemet when for example the priests had a different understanding of something while what they tell the masses is something different. nothing new under the sun. and honestly I can see why its like that because its like casting pearls before swines. its ECHOED in the biblical texts when they said - WHY DO YOU SPEAK TO THESE PEONS IN PARABLES ? - and he said to them it is not given to THEM to understand the secrets of the world. nothing new under the sun bro. no esoteric knowledge of value or worth is shared in public texts. those who know dont tell and those who tell dont know.

Thank you, but you did not deal with the substance of my query. I gave you instances of extant esoteric writings that are available in their original published formats unaltered. And there are many thousand more. What specific evidence do you have that each of these manuscripts has been altered or reversed as you say. We know for instance that the Vatican had their office of the ‘correctores’ whose only job back then was to scrutinise the Christian Bible to remove any hint or references of theologies deemed incompatible with Pauline doctrine.

Specifically who were the ones designated to do the same to the esoteric texts you talk about and under what authority?
Re: The Middle Path by Nobody: 2:21pm On Oct 12, 2017
iamnlia:
Mr Sarassin, can you recommend texts for a beginner like me?
Thanks

Yes, you could start with Siddhartha by Herman Hesse
Re: The Middle Path by Apogee14: 2:29pm On Oct 12, 2017
Sarassin:


Thank you, but you did not deal with the substance of my query. I gave you instances of extant esoteric writings that are available in their original published formats unaltered. And there are many thousand more. What specific evidence do you have that each of these manuscripts has been altered or reversed as you say. We know for instance that the Vatican had their office of the ‘correctores’ whose only job back then was to scrutinise the Christian Bible to remove any hint or references of theologies deemed incompatible with Pauline doctrine.

Specifically who were the ones designated to do the same to the esoteric texts you talk about and under what authority?
well those texts were altered before being published. the correct one will be kept in the vaults and the altered one is for the masses. this has been going on since the beginning of the world. point being the original published formats were altered before being published. its not like someone published it and then someone reversed the work after it was published. it was altered before being published. let me tell you a story in the 1700s about a guy in america who was a top guy in the freemason. had access to some of the correct secrets and decided he wanted to make it available to the public. high powered men the likes of george washington etc broke into his house at night and told him to say his last prayers. after which they tortured and drowned him. very huge and popular case in the 1700s. whats the point ? real information is not released to the public. his name was william morgan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Morgan_(anti-Mason)
Re: The Middle Path by FlipGamBino: 2:53pm On Oct 12, 2017
What I believe is that as a newer person in practice or a dilettante magician or occult practitioner reading certain text might not come with any substantial meaning. But the more one delves into practice and study things begin to make more sense. I remember years ago when I first came across the sefer yetzirah it was practically meaningless but it gradually begins to make sense if you give in the time. Some of our friends here can't begin to explain to you the potential of that book. Believe me you will shiver.

Whatever looks like it was written upside down as one feels should be put aside, give time to other basic texts, proper practise, meditation and contemplating then come back and re-reading it, maybe the writing might become more straightforward.
Re: The Middle Path by Apogee14: 3:05pm On Oct 12, 2017
Sarassin:


Thank you, but you did not deal with the substance of my query. I gave you instances of extant esoteric writings that are available in their original published formats unaltered. And there are many thousand more. What specific evidence do you have that each of these manuscripts has been altered or reversed as you say. We know for instance that the Vatican had their office of the ‘correctores’ whose only job back then was to scrutinise the Christian Bible to remove any hint or references of theologies deemed incompatible with Pauline doctrine.

Specifically who were the ones designated to do the same to the esoteric texts you talk about and under what authority?
and let me also add, the people who control this world. The freemasons, thus goes there initiation ritual. a man named hiram abiff has this secret and he is confronted by one man to reveal the secret and he says I will not tell you this secret, I will take it to my grave with me and he is struck with a stone and he refused to divulge the secret. Then as he stumbles on another man confronts him and says reveal the secret to me or i will kill you, and he says i will take this secret to my grave with me, and he is stabbed with a knife and he refuses to divulge the secret, and he stumbles on nearly dying and a third man comes up to him and says reveal the secrets to me, and he says i will take this secrets to my grave with me, and the man stabs him with a sword and he falls to the ground and dies

AND THEREIN THAT FREEMASONIC RITUAL YOU GET THE WHOLE PICTURE OF HOW CLOSELY GUARDED REAL ESOTERIC INFORMATION IS. THIS FREEMSONRY RUNS THE WORLD AND KEEPS MOST OF THE WORLDS ESOTERIC INFORMATION

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