shark003:
Oh Man,you carry harmmer come!!!? i dey fear you ooo but gaskia you are just being realistic
Thanks

haha not a hammer but a word that Pierce asunder than two doubled-edge sword, dividing thought and conscience.

I just love you realised he is being realistic. Let me share a bit: To be honest, during my first degree in Nigeria, typist will do all my typing, print and over other things. But getting to the UK, I have to learn and do everything on my own. I will have to load my printing card, operate the machine, print my work on my own, type my course work. I also learn something on MS word and excel. I was just too lazy during my first degree.

chupcake:




You know what brother.. I hear you and thanks for the moral lesson and i will be low key with my faulty understanding

Broda-Man, we learn always, either direct or indirect.
Don't because of this say you will not share your thoughts and ideas to upcoming applicants. One luv.

adesbaba:
I thought its difficult to stay back in U.K..why are people still going there...

pls does having an internship during ur msc programme gives an edge in getting job after grad



Thanks family

What was your mission ? Do you have enough time for internship as MSc student? Remember, your academic calendar is 9 months and 3months for your thesis (though, your thesis may require you work with professionals in some companies). 4 months to flex your muscles around, and during these times, you are no more a student. If it was for first degree, you would have more time for internship during summer.

adesbaba:
I thought its difficult to stay back in U.K..why are people still going there...

pls does having an internship during ur msc programme gives an edge in getting job after grad



Thanks family

It does though it will depend on the company you did the internship with

justwise:


It does though it will depend on the company you did the internship with

bros please how is visa fee paid?

guiddoti:
What was your mission ? Do you have enough time for internship as MSc student? Remember, your academic calendar is 9 months and 3months for your thesis (though, your thesis may require you work with professionals in some companies). 4 months to flex your muscles around, and during these times, you are no more a student. If it was for first degree, you would have more time for internship during summer.

I would say it depends on the course you are studying and the skills you already have. This is specific for those in IT as that is the only experience i have. for example during the 3 months set aside for dissertation, my professors started sending out Job adverts to us. Places they know some of us are qualified for. i got a bunch of them and people actually applied, even the university itself had a place open and it was sent to use first before it was put out.. it is not all sad and gloomy. a friend of mine in class turned down two job offers during dissertation. although she is not an international student but what is to say they won't offer it to someone on tier 4 visa if they applied. She also did something unique for her project and she told me a couple of days ago that a company actually wanted to buy the app and the Uni offered her a PhD place to pursue the project further. She claimed the company wanted to bring her and her 'team' on which means she can potentially hire someone like me. Who is to say that cannot happen to a tier 4 student.

Also, with a tier 4 visa in hand, it is easy to get a visa to go to other countries. i have been to France twice as most of my friends and some of them even hold 2yrs American Visa. Also, before someone comes and tell me my thinking is 'faulty', do you own research oo. i am not saying all these is set in stone, this is just stuff i have seen and stuffs that has happened to people close to me it might be different in the city and uni you end up in. Tell you mama to continue praying for you and if you don't have one, pray for yourself.

chupcake:


I would say it depends on the course you are studying and the skills you already have. This is specific for those in IT as that is the only experience i have. for example during the 3 months set aside for dissertation, my professors started sending out Job adverts to us. Places they know some of us are qualified for. i got a bunch of them and people actually applied, even the university itself had a place open and it was sent to use first before it was put out.. it is not all sad and gloomy. a friend of mine in class turned down two job offers during dissertation. although she is not an international student but what is to say they won't offer it to someone on tier 4 visa if they applied. She also did something unique for her project and she told me a couple of days ago that a company actually wanted to buy the app and the Uni offered her a PhD place to pursue the project further. She claimed the company wanted to bring her and her 'team' on which means she can potentially hire someone like me. Who is to say that cannot happen to a tier 4 student.

Also, with a tier 4 visa in hand, it is easy to get a visa to go to other countries. i have been to France twice as most of my friends and some of them even hold 2yrs American Visa. Also, before someone comes and tell me my thinking is 'faulty', do you own research oo. i am not saying all these is set in stone, this is just stuff i have seen and stuffs that has happened to people close to me it might be different in the city and uni you end up in. Tell you mama to continue praying for you and if you don't have one, pray for yourself.

You are absolutely right. I guess those jobs are not internship jobs. Also, it is not restricted to department or area of specialty.

Yes, as an international student, you have a great opportunity to travel round the world as much as your visa expiration is not less than four months old.

The issue with job, to me, is just that the UK government is trying to protect their citizens first before others. Any company recruiting must first consider UK citizen, follow by European citizen, and then International.

guiddoti:
You are absolutely right. I guess those jobs are not internship jobs. Also, it is not restricted to department or area of specialty.

Yes, as an international students, you have a great opportunity to travel round the world as much as your visa expiration is not less than four months old.

The issue with job, to me, is just that the UK government is trying to protect their citizens first before others. Any company recruiting must first consider UK citizen, follow by European citizen, and then International.

This does not apply to international student already in UK. view page 251 of this thread

umarwy:


This does not apply to international student already in UK. view page 251 of this thread

It does apply during consideration by the recruiter. For sure, the company may not want to pay some of these charges, that may require you to come home and re documented.

guiddoti:
You are absolutely right. I guess those jobs are not internship jobs. Also, it is not restricted to department or area of specialty.

Yes, as an international student, you have a great opportunity to travel round the world as much as your visa expiration is not less than four months old.

The issue with job, to me, is just that the UK government is trying to protect their citizens first before others. Any company recruiting must first consider UK citizen, follow by European citizen, and then International.

Well, legally i THINK they are not allowed to do that to Tier 4 students. Again, i am saying this based on experience. A hiring manager once told me that they are not allowed to do that. whatever he means, i am not sure but he said he won't discourage anyone from applying, whatever their immigration status is. I THINK passing the interview means you were 'better' than everyone that applied which might or might not include Brits and EU citizens that apply and they care more about who will deliver than where you come from. At least that is what i am able to deduce from what he told me. I THINK you just have to apply for an organization capable of sponsoring you and i also don't THINK some of the laws that apply for a normal Tier 2 applies if you already have a Tier 4 visa. I do not THINK they are allowed to not hire you if you are more qualified than a Brit of EU candidate but then, you just have to pray you meet someone who doesn't think less of you because of the color of your skin.

Reason why i said IT is because you can hire someone with a Degree in Archaeology as a Manager but not as a Web Developer. Jobs that are specific skill based are a wee bit difficult to fill so i THINK organisations will hire you if you are the better person in an interview.

chupcake:


Well, legally i THINK they are not allowed to do that to Tier 4 students. Again, i am saying this based on experience. A hiring manager once told me that they are not allowed to do that. whatever he means, i am not sure but he said he won't discourage anyone from applying, whatever their immigration status is. I THINK passing the interview means you were 'better' than everyone that applied which might or might not include Brits and EU citizens that apply and they care more about who will deliver than where you come from. At least that is what i am able to deduce from what he told me. I THINK you just have to apply for an organization capable of sponsoring you and i also don't THINK some of the laws that apply for a normal Tier 2 applies if you already have a Tier 4 visa. I do not THINK they are allowed to not hire you if you are more qualified than a Brit of EU candidate but then, you just have to pray you meet someone who doesn't think less of you because of the color of your skin.

Reason why i said IT is because you can hire someone with a Degree in Archaeology as a Manager but not as a Web Developer. Jobs that are specific skill based are a wee bit difficult to fill so i THINK organisations will hire you if you are the better person in an interview.

That comes to the point that UK government is being diplomatic somehow. One recruiter once said that UK government is making recruitment difficult for them. You know what, they will not tell you the real thing, as you have right to sue them.
Not that they don't recruit tier4, they must consider inside first before outside. Let assume, there are four slots, be rest assured that 2 or 3 is for them, even if they are not better.

I am writing to inform you that we are currently conducting further checks regarding your application and I will write to you again once these have been completed. I apologise for any inconvenience caused by the delay in sending you a substantive response.

I got this message today concerning my AR..Does it mean it going to take long or what?

darkmax:
I am writing to inform you that we are currently conducting further checks regarding your application and I will write to you again once these have been completed. I apologise for any inconvenience caused by the delay in sending you a substantive response.

I got this message today concerning my AR..Does it mean it going to take long or what?

You just watch and relax. No worries your head.
They will need proper background check on you but if you are genuine, no worries, bro.

guiddoti:
You just watch and relax. No worries your head.
They will need proper background check on you but if you are genuine, no worries, bro.

Proper background check like?

darkmax:

Proper background check like?

Bro, I am not a consular to tell you what, the fact remains once you allowed them get red signal about you, you automatically pomped yourself into this. One of the reasons you should not allow anxiety take over you.

guiddoti:
Bro, I am not a consular to tell you what, the fact remains once you allowed them get red signal about you, you automatically pomped yourself into this. One of the reasons you should not allow anxiety take over you.

damn i didn't know.. i was just nervous

darkmax:

damn i didn't know.. i was just nervous

Just relax bro.

guiddoti:
That comes to the point that UK government is being diplomatic somehow. One recruiter once said that UK government is making recruitment difficult for them. You know what, they will not tell you the real thing, as you have right to sue them.
Not that they don't recruit tier4, they must consider inside first before outside. Let assume, there are four slots, be rest assured that 2 or 3 is for them, even if they are not better.

Lol.. what happens then when there are no suitable candidates applying for the 4 slots. Believe me, i understand what you are saying but i just think it not as bad as some people put it. That is why i would not recommend anyone studying courses like MBA or International Business or courses like that to come here if they want to have a shot at getting a job. But if you are here doing an MSc in Nursing or Medicine (especially nursing), any IT field especially Security, Machine Learning and you have appropriate certifications and some experience or a vast portfolio if you are a web developer (projects you've done or collaborated on that is designed using different frameworks, languages). Your chances are high. That is just what i THINK is all.

chupcake:


Lol.. what happens then when there are no suitable candidates applying for the 4 slots. Believe me, i understand what you are saying but i just think it not as bad as some people put it. That is why i would not recommend anyone studying courses like MBA or International Business or courses like that to come here if they want to have a shot at getting a job. But if you are here doing an MSc in Nursing or Medicine (especially nursing), any IT field especially Security, Machine Learning and you have appropriate certifications and some experience or a vast portfolio if you are a web developer (projects you've done or collaborated on that is designed using different frameworks, languages). Your chances are high. That is just what i THINK is all.

There is always best in poor performance. There must be good in suitable poor performance. My point is out of the applicants, one of these can be trained. That is where your value comes in.
In that case, you are experienced taken as entry.

guiddoti:
It does apply during consideration by the recruiter. For sure, the company may not want to pay some of these charges, that may require you to come home and re documented.

You do not need to go home to be documented, you can switch while in the UK, @chupcake is right.

There is no such thing as government is making recruitment hard, there are guidelines and they have to follow it.

The tier 2 guidelines with respect to tier 4 students does not require labor market check. Please read the guidelines and don't spread wrong info.

umarwy:


You do not need to go home to be documented, you can switch while in the UK, @chupcake is right.

There is no such thing as government is making recruitment hard, there are guidelines and they have to follow it.

The tier 2 guidelines with respect to tier 4 students does not require labor market check. Please read the guidelines and don't spread wrong info.

How do you compare recruitment 7 yrs ago and now in the UK? The guidelines are no more open as it was many years ago.

guiddoti:
How do you compare recruitment 7 yrs ago and now in the UK? The guidelines are no more open as it was many years ago.

Please Fam, I want your advice on going to Scotland for an MBA and as well hoping to get a job after studies.... How possible is this, thanks

nwizu042:

Please Fam, I want your advice on going to Scotland for an MBA and as well hoping to get a job after studies.... How possible is this, thanks

Nothing is impossible with God, just have an open mind, either it comes or not. You must start applying early, too. The fact remains that the chances is very slim compared to 7 yrs ago.

umarwy:


You do not need to go home to be documented, you can switch while in the UK, @chupcake is right.

There is no such thing as government is making recruitment hard, there are guidelines and they have to follow it.

The tier 2 guidelines with respect to tier 4 students does not require labor market check. Please read the guidelines and don't spread wrong info.

That is exactly what i am trying to say. from what i can see, he was making it sound like there is a personal war against tier 4 student by the home office. I do not think that is the case. Some of the laws that apply to general tier 2 visa does not apply to you if you are switching from a tier 4 which kinda makes it easier. It is even easier if you are applying for a job that requires specific skills like the STEM career. I am in no way saying you will get a job 10 outta 10, it is not just all doom and gloom as people make it. If you have an MSc in International Business or even an MBA with vast experience(not to take anything away from those degrees, i took a business module and i worked by socks off to pass so please, this is not an attack on those degrees), you might find it a wee bit difficult than someone who has a MSc in IT and good experience in Machine Learning or Database Administration or an amazing portfolio as a web developer.

Hello all,

I submitted my Tier 4 application on priority on Monday, 13th November at Abuja TLS. I got an email from my school yesterday on the 14th November 2017 saying that their systems shows that my CAS has been used by the UKVI.

Please anyone gotten that kind of email from their school during visa application and how soon did you get your visa?

Thanks.

raspberry88:
Hello all,

I submitted my Tier 4 application on priority on Monday, 13th November at Abuja TLS. I got an email from my school yesterday on the 14th November 2017 saying that their systems shows that my CAS has been used by the UKVI.

Please anyone gotten that kind of email from their school during visa application and how soon did you get your visa?

Thanks.

Wow, that's so quick. That means the case worker is already considering your application . It's normal. Did u get any message from Sheffield that they already got your application or where is your application being processed?

Six universities told to change advertising claims
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/education-41984465

Complaints were upheld against six universities:

1. Falmouth University has been told to stop describing itself as "the UK's number one arts university" or "the UK's number one creative university".

2. Teesside University had a complaint upheld for saying it was the "Top university in England for long-term graduate prospects".

3. University of East Anglia has been told not to use the claim "Top 5 for student satisfaction".

4. University of Leicester must stop claiming to be "a top 1% world university".

5. University of Strathclyde has been told to change the claim "We're ranked No. 1 in the UK" for physics.

6. University of West London must stop claiming to be "London's top modern university - and one of the top 10 in the UK".

darkmax:
I am writing to inform you that we are currently conducting further checks regarding your application and I will write to you again once these have been completed. I apologise for any inconvenience caused by the delay in sending you a substantive response.

I got this message today concerning my AR..Does it mean it going to take long or what?

Hello dear, please when did you submit your AR? my husband submitted his since on the 3rd of November and we are yet to hear from them.

bestbian:


Hello dear, please when did you submit your AR? my husband submitted his since on the 3rd of November and we are yet to hear from them.

I submitted on the 19 of OCT.....

darkmax:

I submitted on the 19 of OCT.....

. okay dear, I pray everything turns out positive for us all.

LaaJiblik:
Six universities told to change advertising claims
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/education-41984465

Complaints were upheld against six universities:

1. Falmouth University has been told to stop describing itself as "the UK's number one arts university" or "the UK's number one creative university".

2. Teesside University had a complaint upheld for saying it was the "Top university in England for long-term graduate prospects".

3. University of East Anglia has been told not to use the claim "Top 5 for student satisfaction".

4. University of Leicester must stop claiming to be "a top 1% world university".

5. University of Strathclyde has been told to change the claim "We're ranked No. 1 in the UK" for physics.

6. University of West London must stop claiming to be "London's top modern university - and one of the top 10 in the UK".

THANKS for posting this. I have always wondered how come all the universities claim to be number 1

bestbian:
. okay dear, I pray everything turns out positive for us all.

Amen o...Another University said i should do Student-visiting then come back after 6 months to renew but idk what to do yet cos of the AR