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Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by erico2k2(m): 8:20pm On Dec 05, 2017
ice4u999:


Oga erico welcome from property section. The Oba is the chairman of all traditional rulers in Benin and from time his subjects even extended to other communities in Delta state.

A very good example the queen of England in simple language should only be the queen of those in England but she is also the queen in Canada, Australia and some areas in UK. With appointed governor generals in various countries representing her.

The Edo don't cover binis alone but a group of tribes as it has been from time. The Oba of Benin today came to power via various tribal chiefs that makes up Edo coming together to appoint the family. The ijaws migrated to this region they claim via the river route which link Delta state to Edo State.

No one is saying they don't have right to the lands but they can't just put a monarch in place with out proper approves and the most annoying and insulting part is that this monarch pay respect to a king of another land. That to me is colonialism.
ahah well thanks for the welcome, I greet you in multiple language grin grin grin
i get waht you are saying being a chair person and a Ruler are two different things.When We where bendel State The Oba of |benin was the chairman too but no one was under him per say, in the Old days that would be determined by WAR.But today life is very much different.In as much as no money is coming from teh Oba Im afraid the Ijaws are free to choose thier leader,its called freedom of association.
The Quuen on England is the Queen of all comonwealth Nations of which Nigeria and Ghana belong to.is the oBA OF BENIN Ubder the queen? Nop, but in the Old days He would be.
If you look at this carefully, this has no effect on the benin people, but I suspect there is an interior motive for this repulsion.Greed sometimes make people lose all.it was this same greed that caused problem btw Ijaws and Itshekiris just now .Reason being some one heard a rumour of an institute that was to be built and they decided to buy the whole land so as to collect compensation frm FG, Unknow to them part of the bought Lands falls under Ijaw jurisdiction, wahala statrt.,
Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by ernieboy(m): 8:22pm On Dec 05, 2017
FBIL:

You live on Land to enjoy water resources (crude oil, fish etc.). The Ijaws risk lives to live on water and protect those resources from foreign coastal thieves. Now, u don't want them! OK oh..make una yield to their request because if any thing happens to Ijaws, we Igbos will assist by all means.
have u been able to assist ur leader (KANU) who was chased into his rat hole after the mil op in the se?

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Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by Alexus23: 8:22pm On Dec 05, 2017
pascal558:
Then u guys must be prepared to eat lizard for a second time because buhari is just waiting for an excuse to wipe u guys from d face of earth and u guys are there trying to make trouble with fellow southerners,even the yorubas u cal afonjas wil rather defend d north than u guys who are fellow southerners!!And 4 u to support ijaw over bini means u knw little abt ur history,how we have raised kings 4 ibos in our palace by same king u insult!!Apart frm militancy which u tink wil help ur biafra wat relationship have d ibos enjoyes frm d ijaws??
Please, keep Igbos out of this, we are not interested in your fight. The moniker you quoted may not even be Igbo. Anybody can say anything to rope in unconcerned parties.
Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by AdaFonju: 8:22pm On Dec 05, 2017
ice4u999:


You posted a video correct? Ok good you tell me, based on this video that you posted as a fact, you that is not ignorate, please tell me one thing in this video to buttress your these point you call truth. Common on now you are very educated so please enlighten me by describing your facts based on the video you posted
You can lead a goat to warer but you can't force him to drink
You can take a child to school but you can't force him to learn
Your case is from your village
Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by ice4u999(m): 8:23pm On Dec 05, 2017
mr1759:


shut up u r not Esans you r an impostor

This is one problem we have in Edo state. Which word in Bini doesn't mean or if not thesame as Esan. Even when the Oba of Benin visited the Esan rulers after his coronation, even the rulers there stated it that the Oba of Benin still remains the father to all.

This whole Bini and Esan bitterness is a complete foolishness on all our parts.

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Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by ernieboy(m): 8:24pm On Dec 05, 2017
Afriifa:
next time go and read ancestral facts before you judge. i thought u were one of dis igbo guys forming brothers to ijaws. how could you be so judgemental without concrete facts.https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Gelegele-gbene_the_land_of_the_Ijaws
u are quoting Wikipedia that any idiot who has an internet enabled phone can edit?
Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by erico2k2(m): 8:26pm On Dec 05, 2017
rhektor:
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Size or number does not imply superiority or quality, stop boasting about the number of Ijaw people, stop deceiving yourself. Those people you mentioned Esan, Owan, Etsako all acknowledged the Oba so stop your divisionist idea. Besides those languages are Edoid, would you also tell me that the [b]Ijaws in Edo state speaksthe same language with those in rivers state
?

To the Bolded YES with dialect(Ijaw nation).Im not IJAW but just trying to Understand the reasons behind the small matter being blown out of proportion.I dont think there is any Legal base for this Argument,if the land was not thiers then the benins might have a case but nahhhh.I would have found this bro hahah more appealing if the ownership of the land was what was in question rather than just a named ruler.
Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by pascal558(m): 8:26pm On Dec 05, 2017
Alexus23:

Please, keep Igbos out this, we are not interested in your fight. The moniker you quoted may not even be Igbo. Anybody can say anything to rope in unconcerned parties.
he is nt d first to say it,in some other threads ibos have always taken sides with the ijaws bcus they feel we and d yorubas which they hate so much are related,so am nt wrong sir,rather u should talk to ur people to love all southerners as we are one!

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Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by ice4u999(m): 8:27pm On Dec 05, 2017
AdaFonju:

You can lead a goat to warer but you can't force him to drink
You can take a child to school but you can't force him to learn
Your case is from your village

When a man discovered that he has no backing to what he is saying then he resort to insult.

At least I you have a problem at least we can find a solution but don't you think not knowing the source of your problem is bad problem.

Guy be a man explain your video. It is simple and no need for insults. If you can't explain it simply means that you have been branded with the honor of an ass wipe

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Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by AdaFonju: 8:28pm On Dec 05, 2017
rhektor:
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Size or number does not imply superiority or quality, stop boasting about the number of Ijaw people, stop deceiving yourself. Those people you mentioned Esan, Owan, Etsako all acknowledged the Oba so stop your divisionist idea. Besides those languages are Edoid, would you also tell me that the Ijaws in Edo state speaksthe same language with those in rivers state?
Stop misinforming people gelegele is Ijaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC7Q_0I3-yw
The word gelegele means the same thing in all Ijaw languages, stop misinforming People ,
http://globalrecordings.net/en/language/11054


https://www.ethnologue.com/language/ijc

Bini on the other hand doesnt have any dialect and is spoken by only bini people
http://globalrecordings.net/en/language/2109
Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by ernieboy(m): 8:31pm On Dec 05, 2017
teflonjake:


We don't need a fight?

Someone is writing now that we are begging, the bini's should listen?

When an armed robber says, now that I'm telling u to open the door, u won't oooooo ( do u know what that means? )
thank God u recognise that the ijaws are armed robbers, what an apt analogy.

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Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by AdaFonju: 8:32pm On Dec 05, 2017
ice4u999:


When a man discovered that he has no backing to what he is saying then he resort to insult.

At least I you have a problem at least we can find a solution but don't you think not knowing the source of your problem is bad problem.

Guy be a man explain your video. It is simple and no need for insults. If you can't explain it simply means that you have been branded with the honor of an ass wipe
Go back to kindergarten for Gods sake
Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by pascal558(m): 8:33pm On Dec 05, 2017
erico2k2:


To the Bolded YES with dialect(Ijaw nation).Im not IJAW but just trying to Understand the reasons behind the small matter being blown out of proportion.I dont think there is any Legal base for this Argument,if the land was not thiers then the benins might have a case but nahhhh.I would have found this bro hahah more appeaing if teh ownership of the land was waht was in question rather than just a named ruler.
Have u bn to water-side b4If no,then u have no reason to judge!!The ijaws like the fulani herdsmen who enter your farm nd kil u,come to riverine areas,show aggression,and chase away d indigene to claim d land by mobilizing ijaws frm all over d country!!The former oba was a calm and peaceful king,even with d ijaw killings he neva altered a word,but his son might hav been unhappy with that all this years and thats the outcome of wat u see today,it did nt just start nw!!

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Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by ernieboy(m): 8:37pm On Dec 05, 2017
erico2k2:


To the Bolded YES with dialect(Ijaw nation).Im not IJAW but just trying to Understand the reasons behind the small matter being blown out of proportion.I dont think there is any Legal base for this Argument,if the land was not thiers then the benins might have a case but nahhhh.I would have found this bro hahah more appeaing if teh ownership of the land was waht was in question rather than just a named ruler.
the land is not theirs, there is an extant supreme Court judgement that put paid to that argument.

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Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by erico2k2(m): 8:37pm On Dec 05, 2017
pascal558:
Have u bn to water-side b4If no,then u have no reason to judge!!The ijaws like the fulani herdsmen who enter your farm nd kil u,come to riverine areas,show aggression,and chase away d indigene to claim d land by mobilizing ijaws frm all over d country!!The former oba was a calm and peaceful king,even with d ijaw killings he neva altered a word,but his son might hav been unhappy with that all this years and thats the outcome of wat u see today,it did nt just start nw!!
Im frm Delta state so yes I have been to the waterside, we are surrounded by water 10 times the waterways of Edo state.
The Ijaws had faught everyone else remaining the Urhobos.The Ijaws had been upressed for years they just woke up and are looking for a fight at any point, I will say Edo people thread with caution.
Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by erico2k2(m): 8:38pm On Dec 05, 2017
ernieboy:

the land is not theirs, there is an extant supreme Court judgement that put paid to that argument.
Just so we are on same page, do you have the citation to that verdict
Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by paradigmshift(m): 8:39pm On Dec 05, 2017
Jesusloveyou:
is one of the reason
he was there for one year anniversary n d gelegele seaport.
ijaw is too small to be discussed there.

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Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by AdaFonju: 8:42pm On Dec 05, 2017
ernieboy:

the land is not theirs, there is an extant supreme Court judgement that put paid to that argument.
Wrong there is no such judgment
Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by pascal558(m): 8:42pm On Dec 05, 2017
ice4u999:


When a man discovered that he has no backing to what he is saying then he resort to insult.

At least I you have a problem at least we can find a solution but don't you think not knowing the source of your problem is bad problem.

Guy be a man explain your video. It is simple and no need for insults. If you can't explain it simply means that you have been branded with the honor of an ass wipe
I had same experience with sum uzon guys,i tried to reason with them like humans,i said lets talk about our history as this could help us resolve this land dispute!But what did i getInsults"your mum is a prostitute,ur papa na bastard,u b italian made,ur sista na ashawo"nd all that!!To me non of those made any sense,i begged them to stop d insult cos am a creek guy 2,them nr hear and wen i start my own them disappear lol!!Then i realised that if u try 2 b at peace with humans they tag u as weak!!!

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Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by ice4u999(m): 8:42pm On Dec 05, 2017
erico2k2:

ahah well thanks for the welcome, I greet you in multiple language grin grin grin
i get waht you are saying being a chair person and a Ruler are two different things.When We where bendel State The Oba of |benin was the chairman too but no one was under him per say, in the Old days that would be determined by WAR.But today life is very much different.In as much as no money is coming from teh Oba Im afraid the Ijaws are free to choose thier leader,its called freedom of association.
The Quuen on England is the Queen of all comonwealth Nations of which Nigeria and Ghana belong to.is the oBA OF BENIN Ubder the queen? Nop, but in the Old days He would be.
If you look at this carefully, this has no effect on the benin people, but I suspect there is an interior motive for this repulsion.Greed sometimes make people lose all.it was this same greed that caused problem btw Ijaws and Itshekiris just now .Reason being some one heard a rumour of an institute that was to be built and they decided to buy the whole land so as to collect compensation frm FG, Unknow to them part of the bought Lands falls under Ijaw jurisdiction, wahala statrt.,

Remember as these guys have oil companies under their control ? Now they heard about seaport then the next move was to elect a traditional ruler to claim benefits. Every tribe can appoint elders, no problem but a monarch under an area with existing chairman and not even inform the chairman but instead pay homage to another chairman in Bayelsa state. Aba now. There are processes in place for appointing kings. Can the binis or uhrobo or Yoruba or any tribe at all do the same in their area? No, because ijaws people will kill them.

My oga the lands in that area are all gone. How I know? I actually wanted to buy a land there when I heard of the seaport too. Only to find out that people in power don floor the area. I had to back out.

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Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by AdaFonju: 8:47pm On Dec 05, 2017
ice4u999:


Remember as these guys have oil companies under their control ? Now they heard about seaport then the next move was to elect a traditional ruler to claim benefits. Every tribe can appoint elders, no problem but a monarch under an area with existing chairman and not even inform the chairman but instead pay homage to another chairman in Bayelsa state. Aba now. There are processes in place for appointing kings. Can the binis or uhrobo or Yoruba or any tribe at all do the same in their area? No, because ijaws people will kill them.

My oga the lands in that area are all gone. How I know? I actually wanted to buy a land there when I heard of the seaport too. Only to find out that people in power don floor the area. I had to back out.
Stop misinforming people gelegele is Ijaw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC7Q_0I3-yw
Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by AdaFonju: 8:49pm On Dec 05, 2017
erico2k2:

Just so we are on same page, do you have the citation to that verdict
There is no such judgment its there normal lie lie

This is video from an unbiased independent channel reporters on a trip to gelegele in olodiama kingdom edo state

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC7Q_0I3-yw
Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by ice4u999(m): 8:49pm On Dec 05, 2017
AdaFonju:

Go back to kindergarten for Gods sake

Guy I agreed from the beginning that I did not go to school. But you with all the degrees including PhD in oversabi, please explain a video you posted. Na beg I dey. Abeg people help me beg this educated guy to explain a video he posted. Is that difficult again ? You posted a video, ok I see the video but don't understand, so I asked for explanation like every guy with no education. But our itooknow professor can't or won't explain it.

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Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by pascal558(m): 8:49pm On Dec 05, 2017
erico2k2:

Im frm Delta state so yes I have been to the waterside, we are surrounded by water 10 times the waterways of Edo state.
The Ijaws had faught everyone else remaining the Urhobos.The Ijaws had been upressed for years they just woke up and are looking for a fight at any point, I will say Edo people thread with caution.
Firstly i would like to say nobody oppressed u,nd secondly delta is urhobo,thirdly u guys did nt wakeup bt rather militancy is what u feel u cn nw use as a device 4geting that any tribe cn bcum a militant,u cn take a que frm boko haram in d north,nd lastly u cnt fight a war at many frnt nd win unless ur people want to become an endangered spp!

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Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by mr1759: 8:49pm On Dec 05, 2017
ice4u999:


This is one problem we have in Edo state. Which word in Bini doesn't mean or if not thesame as Esan. Even when the Oba of Benin visited the Esan rulers after his coronation, even the rulers there stated it that the Oba of Benin still remains the father to all.

This whole Bini and Esan bitterness is a complete foolishness on all our parts.

Esans and Bini r brothers even ijaw can't change that

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Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by ice4u999(m): 8:52pm On Dec 05, 2017
pascal558:
I had same experience with sum uzon guys,i tried to reason with them like humans,i said lets talk about our history as this could help us resolve this land dispute!But what did i getInsults"your mum is a prostitute,ur papa na bastard,u b italian made,ur sista na ashawo"nd all that!!To me non of those made any sense,i begged them to stop d insult cos am a creek guy 2,them nr hear and wen i start my own them disappear lol!!Then i realised that if u try 2 b at peace with humans they tag u as weak!!!

Some of these guys na losers. Person post video then you ask am to explain then he come turn to insult. And nor surprise say the guy na one of those lonely bobriskys when just want to gain attention

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Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by gregyboy(m): 8:53pm On Dec 05, 2017
ogbonti:


I am from Warri but I attended school in Benin. Your asawana is asawana today becasue there is a reason to have the asawana situation, that is Ijaws were fighting Itsekiris and Urhobos of Warri. Bini people have not gotten any reason to engage in communal clashes, so do not use that as a yardstick to Project the outcome. Yes one thief, one cultist, one agbero acting individually is nothing to be scared off, but collectively, bro you are asking for big big trouble. let me ask you... whenever we had anti-sap or anti-government demonstrations all over Nigeria, go ask, Benin own is always out of control.. i never heard that of bayelsa or rivers getting out of hand. yes, the so called war lords u are talking about are like 1% of all ijaws fighting for their own greed, but IF THE OBA OF BENIN, THROUGH PROXIES DECLARE WAR ON THE IJAWS, hmmmm, i can tell you confidently that 80% of bini youths will heed the call if not 90%, no worry - make dem try am first.. benin is not itsekiri oooo undecided benin people stubborn ooooo hmmmm, dem get mind ooooo. anyways siddon look

my broda tell them d last govnor who had problem brought his families to beg oba when abacha bought is troops to test the powerfull oba half of his men died while going back to lagos ...ogiame took oba to court the case became on hia head and his families brought courpse to beg the obas ...anini was the only criminal who changed nigerian constitution now every held of a police in nigeria cant be from that particular state because of a benin man anybody thats is the enemy of oba is doomed and dont see this as a war only the benin cultist in auchi,ekpoma,uniben,biu etc go finish ijaw

cultism don calm for edo state na make them get mouth but ijaws have mind ooh dem look other tribe cum make problem with benin ha...history will tell d humiliation of the ijaws

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Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by EdoNation(f): 8:55pm On Dec 05, 2017
mr1759:


Esans and Bini r brothers even ijaw can't change that

No difference at all.... The blood just kampe like that oo
Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by EdoNation(f): 8:56pm On Dec 05, 2017
gregyboy:


my broda tell them d last govnor who had problem brought his families to beg oba when abacha bought is troops to test the powerfull oba half of his men died while going back to lagos ...ogiame took oba to court the case became on hia head and his families brought courpse to beg the obas ...anini was the only criminal who changed nigerian constitution now every held of a police in nigeria cant be from that particular state because of a benin man anybody thats is the enemy of oba is doomed and dont see this as a war only the benin cultist in auchi,ekpoma,uniben,biu etc go finish ijaw

cultism don calm for edo state na make them get mouth but ijaws have mind ooh dem look other tribe cum make problem with benin ha...history will tell d humiliation of the ijaws

I swear those cult niggas alone can do the job cleanly cheesy
Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by ice4u999(m): 8:57pm On Dec 05, 2017
EdoNation:


No difference at all.... The blood just kampe like that oo

We all na one.
Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by erico2k2(m): 8:58pm On Dec 05, 2017
ice4u999:


Remember as these guys have oil companies under their control ? Now they heard about seaport then the next move was to elect a traditional ruler to claim benefits. Every tribe can appoint elders, no problem but a monarch under an area with existing chairman and not even inform the chairman but instead pay homage to another chairman in Bayelsa state. Aba now. There are processes in place for appointing kings. Can the binis or uhrobo or Yoruba or any tribe at all do the same in their area? No, because ijaws people will kill them.

My oga the lands in that area are all gone. How I know? I actually wanted to buy a land there when I heard of the seaport too. Only to find out that people in power don floor the area. I had to back out.
OK now the true matter don come out, guy make Una 4get that Seaport, nah since 1980 dem dey talk about that sea port.Who wan use am? see the port at One in Rivers just dey m anage,Sapele and warri Sea ports dey redundant.So I suspect if nor B seaport matter Oba for nor reason the,!
Re: Edo/ijaw Crisis : Ijaw Leaders Beg Buhari To Intervene!! by erico2k2(m): 9:00pm On Dec 05, 2017
EdoNation:


I swear those cult niggas alone can do the job cleanly cheesy
ahah Una funny, Cult people Guns small oh, Those people in the creek get bigger guns, nah thier way, U can chk results from Ijaw/Itshekiri wars

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